Dawoodi Bohras in the media - 2015

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Dawoodi Bohras in the media - 2015

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Unread post by dawedaar » Sat Jan 03, 2015 9:40 pm

Can someone tell me how did our community bring positive results in education sector given that our community has not established any centers of learning apart from Jamea!

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 736737.cms

Prime Minister Narendra Modi meets head of Dawoodi Bohra community

MUMBAI: Prime Minister Narendra Modi today met the head of the Dawoodi Bohra community, Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin, who pledged support to the government's initiatives like Swachh Bharat and Make in India.
MUMBAI: Prime Minister Narendra Modi today met the head of the Dawoodi Bohra community, Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin, who pledged support to the government's initiatives like Swachh Bharat and Make in India.
During the meeting, Modi sought participation of the Bohra community, which is present in about 400 districts of the country, for the Swachh Bharat campaign.
The Prime Minister suggested that the community should initiate Swachhta Abhiyaan competitions in schools in these and award the best-performing ones through the creation of laboratories or computer resources, a PMO statement said.
His Holiness lauded the Prime Minister's efforts to take India forward and pledged the community's support for his initiatives, the statement said.
The Dawoodi Bohra community, which was traditionally a trading community but has now made great progress in the manufacturing sector, also pledged its support to the 'Make in India' initiative of the Prime Minister, it said.
The community has expressed keenness to establish a smart city in Mumbai. The Prime Minister offered all support for such an endeavour. Maharashtra Chief Minister Devendra Fadnavis, who was present on the occasion, also assured all support for the venture.
The Prime Minister also asked for suggestions from the community for the forthcoming Union Budget given their vast experience, particularly in bringing about positive results in the health and education sectors, the statement said.
Modi recalled his long and warm association with Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin, the former Religious Head of the Dawoodi Bohra Community, who passed away last year.

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Unread post by adna_mumin » Sat Jan 03, 2015 11:19 pm

Urs will pay tribute to late Syedna Burhanuddin
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... 747022.cms

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Unread post by dawedaar » Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:30 am

2 lakh bohras * (say) Rs. 100 average golak deposit = INR 2 crores ... This is just a lower ball park figure... the actual figure could be higher considering NRIs/wealthy bohras would be putting far greater amounts given the reverence of Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin (RA)...

This is just the golak... there would be the mannat money and other miscellaneous other 'Wrong Number' (from film PK) items/services to mint money...

adna_mumin wrote:Urs will pay tribute to late Syedna Burhanuddin
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... 747022.cms

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Unread post by adna_mumin » Tue Jan 06, 2015 7:45 pm

Dawoodi Bohra leader Syedna Mufaddal hails Narendra Modi

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http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/art ... 782795.cms

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Unread post by adna_mumin » Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:15 am

A year after leader's death, Bohra Muslims stand divided and waiting for a legal verdict

Some extracts:
The court has placed the onus of proving his claim on Qutbuddin. The case, being heard by Justice Gautam Patel, is in its final stages, with both parties having submitted evidential documents.

“For now, both parties have come to an understanding of how this procedure is to be carried out,” said Aziz Qutbuddin, the son of Khuzaima Qutbuddin, who hopes that the final hearings will begin by the end of February.

http://scroll.in/article/699054

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Unread post by y-kuc » Sat Jan 10, 2015 2:02 pm

Mumbai crime: 46-yr-old held for sending lewd messages to women
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The accused, Juzar Abaz Poonawala, a resident of Grant Road, had been harassing one of his victims, a 41-year-old woman from Byculla, for the past six months. Assistant Police Inspector (API) Yunus Shaikh, from Byculla police station, said, “The 41-year-old complainant had even changed her SIM card because of the harassment, but the accused managed to get hold of her new number.”


http://www.mid-day.com/articles/mumbai- ... n/15903175

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Unread post by asad » Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:46 am

y-kuc wrote:Mumbai crime: 46-yr-old held for sending lewd messages to women
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The accused, Juzar Abaz Poonawala, a resident of Grant Road, had been harassing one of his victims, a 41-year-old woman from Byculla, for the past six months. Assistant Police Inspector (API) Yunus Shaikh, from Byculla police station, said, “The 41-year-old complainant had even changed her SIM card because of the harassment, but the accused managed to get hold of her new number.”


http://www.mid-day.com/articles/mumbai- ... n/15903175

I am sure he was trained by Jamea teachers who are also good in raping young girls studying in Jamea.

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Unread post by Abuzer » Sun Jan 11, 2015 1:19 am

asad wrote:
y-kuc wrote:Mumbai crime: 46-yr-old held for sending lewd messages to women
Image deleted by Moderator
The accused, Juzar Abaz Poonawala, a resident of Grant Road, had been harassing one of his victims, a 41-year-old woman from Byculla, for the past six months. Assistant Police Inspector (API) Yunus Shaikh, from Byculla police station, said, “The 41-year-old complainant had even changed her SIM card because of the harassment, but the accused managed to get hold of her new number.”


http://www.mid-day.com/articles/mumbai- ... n/15903175

I am sure he was trained by Jamea teachers who are also good in raping young girls studying in Jamea.
unless you have proof dont put tohmat on people.

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Unread post by asad » Sun Jan 11, 2015 1:55 am

Abuzer wrote:
asad wrote:
I am sure he was trained by Jamea teachers who are also good in raping young girls studying in Jamea.
unless you have proof dont put tohmat on people.
Search this forum and you will find ample proofs with phone number, name, location of the Jamea Ustaad.

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Unread post by mufaddali53 » Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:28 am

Is this the same Juzer Poonawala, the brother of Shabbir Poonawala of Kothar?!

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Unread post by SBM » Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:44 am

mufaddali53 wrote:Is this the same Juzer Poonawala, the brother of Shabbir Poonawala of Kothar?!
Wish Haqqniwaat was here to provide answer for this. May be GM bhai or Br AZ may know something about this.

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Unread post by noor5253 » Sun Jan 11, 2015 11:07 am

mufaddali53 wrote:Is this the same Juzer Poonawala, the brother of Shabbir Poonawala of Kothar?!
Are you an idiot or something?

Is every Poonawala related to a poonawala from Kothar?

There are hundreds of Poonawalas out there.. Hundreds of simialr sounding walas out there in the community..

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Unread post by SBM » Sun Jan 11, 2015 11:16 am

noor5253 wrote:
mufaddali53 wrote:Is this the same Juzer Poonawala, the brother of Shabbir Poonawala of Kothar?!
Are you an idiot or something?

Is every Poonawala related to a poonawala from Kothar?

There are hundreds of Poonawalas out there.. Hundreds of simialr sounding walas out there in the community..
Oh well you will eating crows as I hear that they are related,,, Someone will soon comment on it

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Unread post by mnoorani » Sun Jan 11, 2015 1:40 pm

noor5253 wrote:
mufaddali53 wrote:Is this the same Juzer Poonawala, the brother of Shabbir Poonawala of Kothar?!
Are you an idiot or something?

Is every Poonawala related to a poonawala from Kothar?

There are hundreds of Poonawalas out there.. Hundreds of simialr sounding walas out there in the community..
Dear Noor5253,
Mufaddali 53 bhai, Has come to this conclusion as sexual harassment is very much the work of Kothar. Brother Asad has just reminded us about the rapes of minor Jamia girls by the Jamia Ustads.
The rot starts from the top. The readers of this forum have not yet forgotten the roving eye and flirting comments of our Aali Qadr Mola, Dai Al Mutlaq, Sayedna Mufaddal Saifuddin in the comforts of his first class seat in Qatar Qirways towards a hapless air hostess who turned out to be a momina of his own flock. But then as a Dai is Ilah al Ardh , he can change the shariat just like the Ismaili Imam. They can own alcohol serving hotels, rent out their real estate to wine shops and interest bearing banks. They can travel far and wide during Ramadan and create oomph and glory by riding air-conditioned, fairy tale buggies to commemorate the matyrdom of Imam Hussain in Moharram. This is the same period that was observed solemnly by all prophets and instead of mournful remembrance and simple food, the Dai indulges in record Ziafats that would be the envy of yazeed himself.

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Unread post by bohrabhai » Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:11 pm

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For ten vociferous years, strident Hindutva activists complained bitterly that their brothers were converting to other religions, mainly Christianity. Six states tried to stem this purported tide by legislating against religious conversion. With the change of political dispensation in Delhi last summer, those who complained about conversions commenced conniving with conversions and “Ghar Wapsi” while those who connived with conversion started complaining. Activists now demand that the Prime Minister take a public position on it. Opposition spokesmen dare the government to come out with a national law against conversion. What’s going on?

The short answer undoubtedly is that God makes good politics. No one knows it better than Atal Bihari Bajpayee who made Prime Minister riding on the back of some mosque busting by religious frontliners in Uttar Pradesh. Religion inevitably consolidates votes on either side of every political fault line, but it profits both sides. Historically speaking, religions have achieved mass traction only after they have received state patronage, good examples being Emperor Constantine and Christianity in Europe, Emperor Ashoka and Buddhism in India, and the Soud family and Mohammad Ibn Al-Wahhab for the Wahhabi school of Islam in the Middle East. For the same reason, every major political party has used anti-conversion as an electoral whipping boy at one point or another:
the BJP in Gujarat amongst others, the Congress in Himachal Pradesh. The key question that needs answering though is this: where does that leave Article 25 of the Constitution of India which provides: “Subject to public order, morality and health and to the other provisions of this Part, all persons are equally entitled to freedom of conscience and the right freely to profess, practice and propagate religion.”

When freedom to profess, practice and propagate is constitutionally guaranteed, how are we even competent to make laws preventing conversion? That takes us to the long answer on what’s going on. Let’s look at the laws that have been created.

First up, we had the Orissa law way back in 1967. It prohibits ‘forcible conversion’, either directly or indirectly, using force, inducement and fraud. Force for your kind information includes ‘threats of divine displeasure’. Inducement by the way also includes offers of any gratification in cash or in kind, and the grant of any benefit, either pecuniary or otherwise. That pretty much set the stage for the following year’s law in Madhya Pradesh which replicated the Orissa law, more or less. It took Arunachal a decade to make a third of a perfect initial pair when in 1978, they legislated their own freedom of religion, again following Orissa closely. There the matter rested for the next 25 years.

In the dying years of the National Democratic Alliance, when voters were again encouraged to find their religious eternal truths through the usual hate mongering, Gujarat set up its own law in 2003. It wasn’t that far off the Orissa model. ‘Inducement’ now became ‘allurement’ defined as offer of any temptation in the form of gift or gratification (in cash or kind) or grant of any material benefit (either monetary or otherwise). Divine displeasure continued as an illegal force. Three years later, Himachal Pradesh and Chhattisgarh both joined the conversion brigade, creating laws along the same lines.

Over the years, the courts have had several occasions to rule on the legality of such laws. Stanislaus v. State of Madhya Pradesh [Air 1977 SC 908] is a good example of judicial thinking on it. In this case, two appeals came up together before the Supreme Court. In the first, the Madhya Pradesh government sanctioned the prosecution of Reverend Stanislaus for violation of the law. He claimed that in prosecuting him, the law violated Article 25. The High Court held that such laws “establishthe equality of religiousfreedom for all citizens by prohibiting conversion by objectionable activities such as conversion by force, fraud and by allurement”. In the second case, the Orissa High Court went the other way where priests were prosecuted for ‘evangelisation leading to
conversion of persons belonging to other faiths by and/or through preaching exhortation’.

The Supreme Court ruled against Orissa. It took the view that Article 25(1) guarantees ‘freedom of conscience’ to every citizen, and not merely to the followers of one particular religion. It found that there exists no fundamental right to convert others, because that would impinge on other persons’
‘freedom of conscience’.

This view has been challenged several times since. Twenty Five years after Stanislaus, in Satya Ranjan Majhi and Anr. v State of Orissa [(2003)7SCC 439], members of the Christian Community challenged the legality of the Orissa law because they wanted the unfettered abilityto convert other.The court did not agree. Again in 2014, the law was challenged afresh in Digbijaya Missal v. State of Orissa [MANU/OR/0360/2014] when the rules framed under the law came under attack. These rules provide that anyone who wishes to convert has to declare that he is doing it of his own will before a Magistrate. Meanwhile, the Priest doing the converting has to inform the District Magistrate fifteen days in advance. In turn, the District Magistrate must inform the concerned Superintendent of Police who will “ascertain objection, if any, to the proposed conversion by a local inquiry and intimate the same to the District Magistrate”. The Petitioners argued that these rules were obstructive and demeaning. The court did not agree. It took the view that these rules are precautionary in that they ensure that the renouncement of one religion and the adoption of another is genuine, voluntary and free from inducement, coercion and fraud.

In the same vein are cases under the general law of the land where the motives for conversion are not quite that spiritually uplifted. In SarlaMudgal and Ors. V. Union of India[AIR 1995 SC 1531], the court ruled that a Hindu man could not convert to Islam so that he could marry again without obtaining a divorce from the first wife. In M Chandra v. M. Thangamathu&Anr [(2010) 9 SCC .712], an electoral candidatewas born a scheduled caste, raised a Christian, reconverted in an AryaSemaj temple to Hinduism and then stood for election to the Legislative Assemblyfor a scheduled caste reserved constituency. The election was challenged on the ground that the appellant wasChristian, not a schedule caste Hindu. The court turned down the challenge, ruling that to prove conversion; two elements needed to be satisfied: that a conversion event took place, and that the community to which that person converted accepted the conversion.The candidate met both tests and her election was upheld.

Which brings us to the curious case of Sardar Syedna Taher Saifuddin Saheb v State of Bombay [AIR 1962 SC 853], triggered by the enactment of the Bombay Prevention of Excommunication Act, 1949. Among those who successfully run a tight community ship are the Dawoodi Bohras whose Dai-ul-Mutlaq is entitled to excommunicate any member of the community for an offence which, according to his religious sensibilities, justified expulsion. It’s an unguided discretionary power, its
impact difficult to fathom for those who do not belong to a close knit insular community.The Syedna challenged the law, claiming it violated his Article 25 right. The court was sympathetic. Banning excommunication may promote social reform, it agreed, but may not promote social welfare. In the end, the court struck down the law because the ban was too absolute. If excommunication was a part of Bohra religion, banning it was interfering with religious freedom.

At one level, this decision is way off the curve. The freedom to practice my religion must include the freedom to practice it as I please, while living the life that I please, rather than the manner in which the priest prescribes it. Excommunicating me because I don’t live my life or practice my religion by the priest’s prescription violates any number of my other fundamental rights. The court took the line that if tradition has allowed members of a religious community to be excommunicated, excommunication is a part of their religion, and protected under Article 25. I cannot but disagree. Tradition is a cunning cur, undermining social justice in many ways, which is after all the law’s main business. I can do no better than direct attention to the Hindu‘tradition’ of excluding some people from the village water well and burning widows. How far back do you wish to go to find your ‘tradition’? Where does religion as a spiritual quest end and the politics of religious organisation begin? To me, the line is very clear. The court has failed to identify that line, leave alone draw it.

This brings us back to our right under Article 25 to propagate our religion. On the face of it, if I am free to propagate my religion, sooner or later, someone will agree with me. Now, if you say I have the right to propagate but not the right to convert, you are really saying that I can propagate till my teeth rattle and fall off but but if I succeed, I am breaking the law! That is not only illogical: that is silly.It’s also only the beginning of the fundamental flaw in the anti-conversion law construct.

The crux of the difficulty with the anti-conversion law construct comes down to this confounding animal called inducement or allurement. Inducement and allurement, in this world or the next, are at the heart of every religion. Religions are nothing if they are not bargains with divinity. A lot of it is
material benefit of the type we actively seek on Diwali. There are also non-pecuniary benefits such as 72 gazelle-eyed women in paradise, or a freedom-from-pain benefit as in Buddhism. What remains after the benefits is the fear of divinity. In that category of fear are thunderbolts from Thor and Satanic rendezvous in hell. What chance of success would you give to a religion that is by law required to offer no value proposition? So, when we talk about religious conversion, there is going to be no sale unless there is a perception of enhanced benefit. Indeed, if there is no perception of benefit, there is going to be no customer for any religion at all. If I didn’t stand a better chance to improve my lot, in this life or the next, or in the life after life, if life it is, why would I bother to convert, or practice any religion at all? It strikes me as perfectly obvious that the moment you ban conversion motivated by benefit, you absolutely ban all conversion. That shoots my Article 25 right to practice a religion of my choosing squarely in the gut.
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Unread post by Abuzer » Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:43 pm

Hunger for power acche acche ko hila detaa hain, to kQ aur Ms kyaa chiz hain...check out how kiran bedi change her status on BJP and now she is contesting from BJP ticket in Delhi, once upon a time she was so much against BJP, now she loves BJP lol.

moral of the story dont break your faamiles in this power tussel between MS and KQ, seek your own benefit and safety first....tomorrow they might crack a deal and start eating in same thali. :wink:
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Unread post by JC » Thu Jan 15, 2015 4:28 pm

In principle, I agree with Abuzer.

MS and KQ are one and same, from same TS family who started this fitnat and hijacked the community to turn into a cult. MB is also equally responsible, so technically MS and KQ are products of same rotten system and believe in same ideology and want to implement their Daidom.....

KQ may be termed as lesser evil as he has agreed to show some restraints and bring in some social work, some reforms and allow some progressive thoughts. So if he wins or has sizeable followers, this means God-gifted 'relief' to Abdes/Amtes ........... an automatic tax reduction ........ :D If that does not happen, than I care less who is 53rd ........ as I do not care who was 1st and who has succeeded since than ............... I even do not care for Imams, to me a leader is the one who PROVES and DELIVERS ....... there is nothing DIVINE.

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Unread post by Abuzer » Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:20 pm

JC wrote:In principle, I agree with Abuzer.

MS and KQ are one and same, from same TS family who started this fitnat and hijacked the community to turn into a cult. MB is also equally responsible, so technically MS and KQ are products of same rotten system and believe in same ideology and want to implement their Daidom.....

KQ may be termed as lesser evil as he has agreed to show some restraints and bring in some social work, some reforms and allow some progressive thoughts. So if he wins or has sizeable followers, this means God-gifted 'relief' to Abdes/Amtes ........... an automatic tax reduction ........ :D If that does not happen, than I care less who is 53rd ........ as I do not care who was 1st and who has succeeded since than ............... I even do not care for Imams, to me a leader is the one who PROVES and DELIVERS ....... there is nothing DIVINE.
you dont even care about Quraan and sense of halal haram, so it doesnt matters what you care.

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Unread post by adna_mumin » Thu Jan 15, 2015 11:09 pm

US court gives joint custody of kids to feuding Bohra kin
http://www.mumbaimirror.com/mumbai/cove ... 904869.cms

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Unread post by mufaddali53 » Fri Jan 16, 2015 12:38 am

adna_mumin wrote:US court gives joint custody of kids to feuding Bohra kin
http://www.mumbaimirror.com/mumbai/cove ... 904869.cms
This is reported incorrectly. It is not joint custody - the fathers have full custody and the mothers' suit was dismissed. The children must be returned to their fathers within ten days max.

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Unread post by JC » Fri Jan 16, 2015 11:20 am

Abuzer wrote:
JC wrote:In principle, I agree with Abuzer.

MS and KQ are one and same, from same TS family who started this fitnat and hijacked the community to turn into a cult. MB is also equally responsible, so technically MS and KQ are products of same rotten system and believe in same ideology and want to implement their Daidom.....

KQ may be termed as lesser evil as he has agreed to show some restraints and bring in some social work, some reforms and allow some progressive thoughts. So if he wins or has sizeable followers, this means God-gifted 'relief' to Abdes/Amtes ........... an automatic tax reduction ........ :D If that does not happen, than I care less who is 53rd ........ as I do not care who was 1st and who has succeeded since than ............... I even do not care for Imams, to me a leader is the one who PROVES and DELIVERS ....... there is nothing DIVINE.
you dont even care about Quraan and sense of halal haram, so it doesnt matters what you care.
I beg to differ Abuzer; I do care about Quran and sense of halal haram, it is only I have been debating various aspects. It is sad to learn that you too have judged me via ONE criteria only like few others. There are however many on this forum who 'care' and 'understand'. I believe in giving credit where due irrespective of the fact that I agree or disagree.

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Unread post by Abuzer » Fri Jan 16, 2015 11:42 am

JC wrote:
Abuzer wrote: you dont even care about Quraan and sense of halal haram, so it doesnt matters what you care.
I beg to differ Abuzer; I do care about Quran and sense of halal haram, it is only I have been debating various aspects. It is sad to learn that you too have judged me via ONE criteria only like few others. There are however many on this forum who 'care' and 'understand'. I believe in giving credit where due irrespective of the fact that I agree or disagree.
Better I PM you and give you reply because I dont want to bring up same issue on each thread. I hope you will repent this time and seek forgiveness if you really care QURAN and SUNNAH.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Jan 16, 2015 4:42 pm

mufaddali53 wrote:
adna_mumin wrote:US court gives joint custody of kids to feuding Bohra kin
http://www.mumbaimirror.com/mumbai/cove ... 904869.cms
This is reported incorrectly. It is not joint custody - the fathers have full custody and the mothers' suit was dismissed. The children must be returned to their fathers within ten days max.
If the above is true then why :-

"There was no response from Mufaddal's media associate Qureish Raghib to a text message sent from Mumbai Mirror".

http://www.mumbaimirror.com/mumbai/cove ... 904869.cms

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Unread post by noor5253 » Fri Jan 16, 2015 5:57 pm

ghulam muhammed wrote:
mufaddali53 wrote: This is reported incorrectly. It is not joint custody - the fathers have full custody and the mothers' suit was dismissed. The children must be returned to their fathers within ten days max.
If the above is true then why :-

"There was no response from Mufaddal's media associate Qureish Raghib to a text message sent from Mumbai Mirror".

http://www.mumbaimirror.com/mumbai/cove ... 904869.cms
go ask him ghoolau shaitan..

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Jan 16, 2015 6:05 pm

noor5253 wrote:
ghulam muhammed wrote: If the above is true then why :-

"There was no response from Mufaddal's media associate Qureish Raghib to a text message sent from Mumbai Mirror".

http://www.mumbaimirror.com/mumbai/cove ... 904869.cms
go ask him ghoolau shaitan..
Noor420-840,

Truth hurts, isn't it !! BTW, how many jhabba kurtas have you torn and how many hairs have you plucked from your junglee beard in frustration after not being able to find an appropriate answer to a simple question raised by me ??

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Unread post by adna_mumin » Fri Jan 16, 2015 7:45 pm

mufaddali53 wrote:
adna_mumin wrote:US court gives joint custody of kids to feuding Bohra kin
http://www.mumbaimirror.com/mumbai/cove ... 904869.cms
This is reported incorrectly. It is not joint custody - the fathers have full custody and the mothers' suit was dismissed. The children must be returned to their fathers within ten days max.
That means that the children were deemed unsafe to be with the mothers?? Was domestic violence proven on them instead?

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Re: Dawoodi Bohras in the media - 2015

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Jan 16, 2015 7:49 pm

adna_mumin wrote:
mufaddali53 wrote: This is reported incorrectly. It is not joint custody - the fathers have full custody and the mothers' suit was dismissed. The children must be returned to their fathers within ten days max.
That means that the children were deemed unsafe to be with the mothers?? Was domestic violence proven on them instead?
Iam not aware of the laws in USA but in India the custody of children is mostly given to the father after the age of 7 years.