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bohrabhai wrote:http://indianexpress.com/article/india/ ... ma-awards/

They waited toooooo loooonnnnnnnnngg for that. Typical Indian style of functioning. Aqa Moula RA deserved it 25 years ago.

allbird wrote:

bohrabhai wrote:http://indianexpress.com/article/india/ ... ma-awards/

They waited toooooo loooonnnnnnnnngg for that. Typical Indian style of functioning. Aqa Moula RA deserved it 25 years ago.

yes that is correct and community also deserved a successor leader announcement 25 years back. and I mean a CLEAR announcement not in someone ears.

What are the criteria for this award?
I found this:

ANSWER
MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI MULLAPPALL Y RAMACHANDRAN)

(a) to (c): A Statement is laid on the Table of the House.

STATEMENT IN REPLY TO PARTS (a) TO (c) OF RAJYA SABHA STARRED QUESTION NO. 34 ANSWERED ON 24.2.2010 REGARDING 'CRITERIA FOR SELECTING PADMA AWARDEES'.

(a): In terms of the rules/guidelines regulating Padma Awarels, 'Padma Vibhushan' is given for 'exceptional and distinguished service', 'Padma Bhushan' for 'distinguished service of a high order' and 'Padma Shri' for 'distinguished service' in any field of activity.

Nomination for the award Is open to all. It Is the practice to invite nominations of the award every year from all StatelUT governments, Central Ministries/Departments, Institutes of Excellence and Bharat Ratna and Padma Vlbhushan awardees. Besides nominations from institutional sources, a large number of recommendations are also received from various sources like Governors, Chief Ministers, Cabinet Ministers, Members of Parliament, private institutions/bodies and individuals etc. Even self sponsored nominations are also received.

All these nominations are compiled in the form of self speaking citations and placed before the Awards Committee for its consideration. The Padma Awards Committee is constituted by the Prime Minister every year. The Committee scrutinizes all nominatlonslrecommendations placed before it and makes its recommendations for approval of the competent authority.

The basis of selection is the body of work of the individual In any given field and a view Is taken in respect of each nomination by the Padma Awards Committee. No Padma award Is conferred except on the recommendation of the Padma Awards Committee.

Please don't jump the bandwagon as its not officially announced as yet !!

ghulam muhammed wrote:Please don't jump the bandwagon as its not officially announced as yet !!

Keep burning.. Here as well as once u die.. Which will be even worse.

noor5253 wrote:

ghulam muhammed wrote:Please don't jump the bandwagon as its not officially announced as yet !!

Keep burning.. Here as well as once u die.. Which will be even worse.

Keep chanting 'Fateh Mubin' here as well as in hell !!

EVEN THE COUNTRY'S HIGHEST AWARD IS DECIDED BY RSS !!

http://indianexpress.com/article/opinio ... estion/99/

Central Board of Dawoodi Bohra Community - Mumbai

Press Release

Why Padma Award to the Most Controversial Late Sayedna

There was a news item in Indin Express dated January 23, 2015 that the government has decided to confer prestigious Padma Bhushan Award to late Dawoodi Bohra High Priest, late Sayedna Mohammad Burhanuddin.

Late Syedna Saheb is known, as a highly controversial personality. He and his establishment is known for repressing with heavy hand those who do not submit to his so-called religious dictates, He and his establishment shows zero tolerance for others views who do not accept his authoritarian regime. The Syedna and its establishment demands absolute obedience in every respect. The eminent human rights activists, legal luminaries and noted academicians, retired high court judges and others had constituted a commission of inquiry to inquire into the violation of human rights of the Bohras at the hands of the Syedna and prepared a detailed report known as the Nathwani Commission Report. It is enclosed herewith for your kind perusal. This was followed by another inquiry by the retired Chief Justice of Calcutta High Court Justice Tewatia. Noted journalist and former member of Rajya Sabha Shri Kuldip Nayer was also its member.

We are the members of the same Dawoodi Bohra Community trying to usher in democratic secular reforms and respect for human rights in the Dawoodi Bohra community which, today is subjected to heavy handed undemocratic rule of the Bohra priesthood who treat Bohras as its slaves. One has to compulsorily follow his dictates not only in religious but also in all secular matters and any dissent is severely punished. The reformists who insist on respect for democratic norms and human rights are often subjected to physical violence. I have been physically attacked several times. In the year 2000 I was not only physically attacked but my house and office were also completely destroyed at the instigation of the Bohra priesthood.

Hundreds of Bohra reformists had been subjected to such violence, particularly from Udaipur. The leaders of the Bohra Youth from Udaipur led a valiant fight against repressive regime of the Syedna and his cohorts. The Syedna and his cohorts. The Syedna and his establishment also collected and continue to collect crores of rupees every year from their followers and refuse to account for it. The Bohras are concerned into paying money to him. Refusal results into different forms of harassment and in much case excommunication.

May we request present government not to disgrace the Prestigious Padma Award by awarding it to a dictator with monstrous power, the late Sayedna Mohammad Burhanuddin.

Yours Sincerely,

Saifuddin Insaf
General Secretary,
Central Board of Dawoodi Bohra Community - Mumbai

Is there a way of signing the petition, so, more people can voice in their unanimity? Also, it will make it more substantial. Just a thought!

Reporter wrote:Central Board of Dawoodi Bohra Community - Mumbai

Press Release

Why Padma Award to the Most Controversial Late Sayedna

There was a news item in Indin Express dated January 23, 2015 that the government has decided to confer prestigious Padma Bhushan Award to late Dawoodi Bohra High Priest, late Sayedna Mohammad Burhanuddin.

Late Syedna Saheb is known, as a highly controversial personality. He and his establishment is known for repressing with heavy hand those who do not submit to his so-called religious dictates, He and his establishment shows zero tolerance for others views who do not accept his authoritarian regime. The Syedna and its establishment demands absolute obedience in every respect. The eminent human rights activists, legal luminaries and noted academicians, retired high court judges and others had constituted a commission of inquiry to inquire into the violation of human rights of the Bohras at the hands of the Syedna and prepared a detailed report known as the Nathwani Commission Report. It is enclosed herewith for your kind perusal. This was followed by another inquiry by the retired Chief Justice of Calcutta High Court Justice Tewatia. Noted journalist and former member of Rajya Sabha Shri Kuldip Nayer was also its member.

We are the members of the same Dawoodi Bohra Community trying to usher in democratic secular reforms and respect for human rights in the Dawoodi Bohra community which, today is subjected to heavy handed undemocratic rule of the Bohra priesthood who treat Bohras as its slaves. One has to compulsorily follow his dictates not only in religious but also in all secular matters and any dissent is severely punished. The reformists who insist on respect for democratic norms and human rights are often subjected to physical violence. I have been physically attacked several times. In the year 2000 I was not only physically attacked but my house and office were also completely destroyed at the instigation of the Bohra priesthood.

Hundreds of Bohra reformists had been subjected to such violence, particularly from Udaipur. The leaders of the Bohra Youth from Udaipur led a valiant fight against repressive regime of the Syedna and his cohorts. The Syedna and his cohorts. The Syedna and his establishment also collected and continue to collect crores of rupees every year from their followers and refuse to account for it. The Bohras are concerned into paying money to him. Refusal results into different forms of harassment and in much case excommunication.

May we request present government not to disgrace the Prestigious Padma Award by awarding it to a dictator with monstrous power, the late Sayedna Mohammad Burhanuddin.

Yours Sincerely,

Saifuddin Insaf
General Secretary,
Central Board of Dawoodi Bohra Community - Mumbai

Good idea: Here's an online petition: http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/sayedna

Well if he does get award he will be in the company of BABA RAMDEV
Atleast Abdes can now gloat that our Moula was in the company of BABA RAMDEV instead of Ahle Bayt

Ramdev, Sri Sri Ravi Shankar decline Padma award
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 004989.cms

SBM bhai, Firstly Ramdev declined the award, so how can Burhanuddin be in Ramdev's company if he gets it? and secondly, its upto Muffy to decline the award, and its unlikley he will.
BTW have you had the honor to sign the petition, or do you not believe in walking the walk and talking the talk.

SBM wrote:Well if he does get award he will be in the company of BABA RAMDEV
Atleast Abdes can now gloat that our Moula was in the company of BABA RAMDEV instead of Ahle Bayt

fiate
I was the first one to sign the petition because when I signed it it had zero
Secondly if you had paid attention my first post about the company of SMB and Ramdev was before Ramdev announced and that is why I right away posted it but unfortunately it is human nature to criticize before paying attention to details

With due respect my heart felt apologies. Sorry SBM bhai for misunderstanding you and applauds for being the first to sign.

SBM wrote:fiate
I was the first one to sign the petition because when I signed it it had zero
Secondly if you had paid attention my first post about the company of SMB and Ramdev was before Ramdev announced and that is why I right away posted it but unfortunately it is human nature to criticize before paying attention to details

Reporter wrote:Central Board of Dawoodi Bohra Community - Mumbai

Press Release

Why Padma Award to the Most Controversial Late Sayedna

There was a news item in Indin Express dated January 23, 2015 that the government has decided to confer prestigious Padma Bhushan Award to late Dawoodi Bohra High Priest, late Sayedna Mohammad Burhanuddin.

Late Syedna Saheb is known, as a highly controversial personality. He and his establishment is known for repressing with heavy hand those who do not submit to his so-called religious dictates, He and his establishment shows zero tolerance for others views who do not accept his authoritarian regime. The Syedna and its establishment demands absolute obedience in every respect. The eminent human rights activists, legal luminaries and noted academicians, retired high court judges and others had constituted a commission of inquiry to inquire into the violation of human rights of the Bohras at the hands of the Syedna and prepared a detailed report known as the Nathwani Commission Report. It is enclosed herewith for your kind perusal. This was followed by another inquiry by the retired Chief Justice of Calcutta High Court Justice Tewatia. Noted journalist and former member of Rajya Sabha Shri Kuldip Nayer was also its member.

We are the members of the same Dawoodi Bohra Community trying to usher in democratic secular reforms and respect for human rights in the Dawoodi Bohra community which, today is subjected to heavy handed undemocratic rule of the Bohra priesthood who treat Bohras as its slaves. One has to compulsorily follow his dictates not only in religious but also in all secular matters and any dissent is severely punished. The reformists who insist on respect for democratic norms and human rights are often subjected to physical violence. I have been physically attacked several times. In the year 2000 I was not only physically attacked but my house and office were also completely destroyed at the instigation of the Bohra priesthood.

Hundreds of Bohra reformists had been subjected to such violence, particularly from Udaipur. The leaders of the Bohra Youth from Udaipur led a valiant fight against repressive regime of the Syedna and his cohorts. The Syedna and his cohorts. The Syedna and his establishment also collected and continue to collect crores of rupees every year from their followers and refuse to account for it. The Bohras are concerned into paying money to him. Refusal results into different forms of harassment and in much case excommunication.

May we request present government not to disgrace the Prestigious Padma Award by awarding it to a dictator with monstrous power, the late Sayedna Mohammad Burhanuddin.

Yours Sincerely,

Saifuddin Insaf
General Secretary,
Central Board of Dawoodi Bohra Community - Mumbai

As usual, saifuddin insaf creates more unnecessary conflict and further alienates the udaipuris, most of whom do not support him.
Thankfully this new 'initiative' will gain hardly any following and will be forgotten about, just like all his other (non)bright ideas.

Reporter wrote:Good idea: Here's an online petition: http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/sayedna

Bad idea:
Firstly, these online petitions rarely achieve anything, just like the previous one against hunting.
Secondly, there will only be a small number of signatures which is embarrassing to say the least.

fiate2000 wrote:BTW have you had the honor to sign the petition, or do you not believe in walking the walk and talking the talk.

Signing an online petition is not an honor, nor is it particularly difficult.
Therefore is not an indication of walking, it is still merely talking.

Walking the walk is when you go outside and do something productive in the real world.
Talking the talk is when you sit on your backside at home in front of your computer online.

Appears like you have written a thesis on 'Walk the Walk and Talk the Talk', Congrats!!!. Well Critical Thinker, try as you may , but sorry I am not among the ones to involve in petty talks with you …. so adieu.

Critical_Thinker wrote:

fiate2000 wrote:BTW have you had the honor to sign the petition, or do you not believe in walking the walk and talking the talk.

Signing an online petition is not an honor, nor is it particularly difficult.
Therefore is not an indication of walking, it is still merely talking.

Walking the walk is when you go outside and do something productive in the real world.
Talking the talk is when you sit on your backside at home in front of your computer online.

‘Why Padma Award to the most controversial late Sayedna’ asks Bohra group

Mumbai, 24 Jan 2015 : In a press release , Saifuddin Insaf, General Secretary, Central Board of Dawoodi Bohra Community – Mumbai has questioned about government decision to confer prestigious Padma Bhushan Award to late Dawoodi Bohra High Priest, late Sayedna Mohammad Burhanuddin.

http://muslimmirror.com/eng/why-padma-a ... hra-group/

The media has come out with the leaked list of padma nominees which includes the 52# "syedna" , this is an outright insult to the reform movement which has worked since generations to expose the corrupt priesthood and certainly this priest cannot be honored by this award , hence I am writing a petition to the padma comitte to withdraw his nomination , for this I need evidences in the form of news clippings , newspaper reports from reliable sources to prove that this candidate is not at all worthy of this award ,hence the nomination be dismissed.


Already there is a big opposition to many of the nominees on the media , and hopefully many will be removed from the list and final list will be announced next month.

I am 100 % agree with bro Saifuddin Insaf....
There is only one quality I can see in 52 dai which is a good speaker. When I was orthodox bohra , I had like to listen his voice.
But after reading the book "The bohra" written by Asgar ali Engg, I got understand complete things about dais.
I can not see single thing which 52 dai had done "good or beneficial" for society (rather then speech).

Central Board of Dawoodi Bohra Community - Mumbai
Press Release

Why Padma Award to the Most Controversial Late Sayedna?

There was a news item in Indin Express dated January 23, 2015 that the government has decided to confer prestigious Padma Bhushan Award to late Dawoodi Bohra High Priest, late Sayedna Mohammad Burhanuddin.

Late Syedna Saheb is known, as a highly controversial personality. He and his establishment is known for repressing with heavy hand those who do not submit to his so-called religious dictates, He and his establishment shows zero tolerance for others views who do not accept his authoritarian regime. The Syedna and its establishment demands absolute obedience in every respect. The eminent human rights activists, legal luminaries and noted academicians, retired high court judges and others had constituted a commission of inquiry to inquire into the violation of human rights of the Bohras at the hands of the Syedna and prepared a detailed report known as the Nathwani Commission Report. It is enclosed herewith for your kind perusal. This was followed by another inquiry by the retired Chief Justice of Calcutta High Court Justice Tewatia. Noted journalist and former member of Rajya Sabha Shri Kuldip Nayer was also its member.

We are the members of the same Dawoodi Bohra Community trying to usher in democratic secular reforms and respect for human rights in the Dawoodi Bohra community which, today is subjected to heavy handed undemocratic rule of the Bohra priesthood who treat Bohras as its slaves. One has to compulsorily follow his dictates not only in religious but also in all secular matters and any dissent is severely punished. The reformists who insist on respect for democratic norms and human rights are often subjected to physical violence.

Hundreds of Bohra reformists had been subjected to such violence, particularly from Udaipur. The leaders of the Bohra Youth from Udaipur led a valiant fight against repressive regime of the Syedna and his cohorts. The Syedna and his cohorts. The Syedna and his establishment also collected and continue to collect crores of rupees every year from their followers and refuse to account for it. The Bohras are concerned into paying money to him. Refusal results into different forms of harassment and in much case excommunication.

May we request present government not to disgrace the Prestigious Padma Award by awarding it to a dictator with monstrous power, the late Sayedna Mohammad Burhanuddin.
Yours Sincerely

Saifuddin Insaf
General Secretary,
Central Board of Dawoodi Bohra Community - Mumbai

araz5253 wrote:The media has come out with the leaked list of padma nominees which includes the 52# "syedna" , this is an outright insult to the reform movement which has worked since generations to expose the corrupt priesthood and certainly this priest cannot be honored by this award , hence I am writing a petition to the padma comitte to withdraw his nomination , for this I need evidences in the form of news clippings , newspaper reports from reliable sources to prove that this candidate is not at all worthy of this award ,hence the nomination be dismissed.
Already there is a big opposition to many of the nominees on the media , and hopefully many will be removed from the list and final list will be announced next month.

They would have accepted the award for show off but now since Baba Ramdev and Sri Sri have declined, the kothar will also have to decline or lose face.

Critical_Thinker wrote:

Reporter wrote:Good idea: Here's an online petition: http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/sayedna

Bad idea:
Firstly, these online petitions rarely achieve anything, just like the previous one against hunting.
Secondly, there will only be a small number of signatures which is embarrassing to say the least.

CT what is your better suggestion ? you are critic right
and why do you think the hunting petition did not achieve in forcing Sms to not distribute photos. he has to do it discreet lyrics

this hunting petition had an amazing effect which instilled fear into the hearts of clergy that how animal activist around the world could tarnish his image of peace loving leader to cruel brutal leader

His all acting macho, fearless and alpha male behaviour came down and made him a pussy cat.

It takes one bush to bring down Saddam Hussain....central board of dawoodi bohra community should highlight themselves in national and international media speak about how nass has never took place and Syedna has not declared anyone his successor and due to that democratically bohras would like to select a leader not necessarily from their family

DisillusionedDB wrote:They would have accepted the award for show off but now since Baba Ramdev and Sri Sri have declined, the kothar will also have to decline or lose face.

No way !! Kothar or muffy maula would never refuse or decline it. receiving of the award is epic and they would turn it into a gala celebration. a huge marketing promotion. what's next. Muffay maula on the Forbes list, most influential man of the year or century ?

I am superbly impressed with kothar's marketing, organizing, logistical capabilities. the money they command and strategies they execute is bang on target and every turn of event is adding to their power and raising their standards of propaganda.

Look at the kothar's class and scale of operations. private jets, helicopters, fancy new car in every ride, bungalow in every city, farm houses in selective locales, cute buggy rides, fancy ziyafats, every second of air-time of kothari's dai is sold. Political contact ? what the heck, prime minister is in the pocket. This guys are on a roll. I wish them more success, arrogance, invincibility, aggression, opulence, extravagance and ayyashi.