Discussion: Saifee Mahal Thread - Inside Stories

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Abuzer
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Re: Saifee Mahal - The Inside Stories

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Unread post by Abuzer » Sat Jan 24, 2015 9:26 am

mnoorani wrote:Aa bewe maula to mari gaya
Pan bija be ne chori gaya
Ek to khaai che kasam Quran na
Bijo galo chume Baba Ramdev na
honestly you dont know shiit about poetry, please apne bhankas se paka mat tere ek line bhi rhyme naahi karti. bakwas band kar.

SBM
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Re: Saifee Mahal - The Inside Stories

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Unread post by SBM » Sat Jan 24, 2015 10:49 am

Abuser
If you do not like it do not read it...

mnoorani
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Re: Saifee Mahal - The Inside Stories

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Unread post by mnoorani » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:31 am

SBM wrote:Abuser
If you do not like it do not read it...
But then SBM Bhai,
Some people just refuse to understand...............

Critical_Thinker
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Re: Saifee Mahal - The Inside Stories

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Unread post by Critical_Thinker » Sat Jan 24, 2015 4:43 pm

SBM wrote:
Dumbledore wrote:Taizoon Shakir's blog is locked again.
Yes as per Taizoon Shakir, he has put a block on his blog as SMS Goondas are harassing his family . SMS Goondas will go to any length to stop truth coming out. Baba Ramdev and NaMo's ashirwad does work.
It seems taizoon bhai closed his blog, then re-opened it, then closed it again.
What a great shame and what a sad display of cowardice and confusion.

As taizoon bhai lives in america, he has nothing to fear.
The SMS goondas cannot do anything to him.
Indeed if they try, then he can have them arrested and create a lot of trouble and bad publicity.

If the SKQ jamaat is to be successful, it needs people with courage and conviction.
Its sad to see people quit when the going gets tough like this.
Especially high profile people like taizoon bhai who can reveal a lot of inside information.

Hopefully taizoon bhai is not a quitter and will regain his composure and come back soon.
I also hope the rest of SKQs followers do not betray him by being cowardly and running away like this.

kimanumanu
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Re: Saifee Mahal - The Inside Stories

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Unread post by kimanumanu » Sat Jan 24, 2015 4:55 pm

He has not closed his blog. He has made it private. You can register your email and request him to allow you access.

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Re: Saifee Mahal - The Inside Stories

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Unread post by james » Mon Jan 26, 2015 5:07 pm

ghulam muhammed wrote:
james wrote:Why not keep the children at Thane residence in event of some miracle?
The children were not IMMEDIATELY whisked away to USA, they were first brought to Thane and only after matters got worse they were taken to USA.
Lies have a funny way of getting caught.

ghulam muhammed you should be ashamed of yourself.
In the present case, the parties had resided in Mumbai, India prior to Petitioner leaving India on January 17, 2014 and coming to Bakersfield, California where her brother lives.
Source:

http://dawoodi-bohras.com/forum/viewtop ... =1&t=10560

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Re: Saifee Mahal - The Inside Stories

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Mon Jan 26, 2015 5:40 pm

james wrote:
ghulam muhammed wrote: The children were not IMMEDIATELY whisked away to USA, they were first brought to Thane and only after matters got worse they were taken to USA.
Lies have a funny way of getting caught.

ghulam muhammed you should be ashamed of yourself.
In the present case, the parties had resided in Mumbai, India prior to Petitioner leaving India on January 17, 2014 and coming to Bakersfield, California where her brother lives.
Source:

http://dawoodi-bohras.com/forum/viewtop ... =1&t=10560
So you mean to say that they were directly taken to the airport from Saifee Mahal ? Even if that was the scenario then how does it change the broader picture ?

kimanumanu
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Re: Saifee Mahal - The Inside Stories

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Unread post by kimanumanu » Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:16 am

kimanumanu wrote:He has not closed his blog. He has made it private. You can register your email and request him to allow you access.
Wrote too soon - as of today it has now been deleted.

Critical_Thinker
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Re: Saifee Mahal - The Inside Stories

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Unread post by Critical_Thinker » Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:25 pm

kimanumanu wrote:He has not closed his blog. He has made it private. You can register your email and request him to allow you access.
Taizoon bhai is no longer making his thoughts public for all the world to see.
Why?

It is obvious that the kothar would threaten him, he knew this right from the start.
Indeed he has been through all this before with his previous zahir/batin website.
Therefore none of this should come as a surprise to him.

So why has he suddenly broken down and given in to the kothars demands?
He is lucky enough to live in a western country where the kothar cannot touch him!
It is sad to see him squander his good fortune like this, and let down the SKQ jamaat so badly.

Kimanumanu bhai, if you know taizoon bhai personally, please ask him to continue his work.
The support he has from countless people must be able to reignite the fire of courage in him.

Critical_Thinker
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Re: Saifee Mahal - The Inside Stories

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Unread post by Critical_Thinker » Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:56 pm

kimanumanu wrote:
kimanumanu wrote:He has not closed his blog. He has made it private. You can register your email and request him to allow you access.
Wrote too soon - as of today it has now been deleted.
What a tragedy.
Im beginning to think there is more to this than meets the eye.
Perhaps taizoon bhai is not a coward and deserves the benefit of a doubt.

In reality I cannot believe taizoon bhai is afraid of the kothar while living in america.
Therefore he must have some other reason for deleting his blog.

Haqniwaat no longer posts on the forum, who I gather was taizoon bhai?
And it seems most of the other SKQ supporters have also left the forum?

The SMS jamaat is constantly trying to associate the SKQ jammat with the progressive jamaat.
Mainly because of the false perception that the udaipuris hate 51 and 52 and have become anti-shia.
This false impression is encouraged and promoted by the way admin runs this forum.

Maybe the SKQ jamaat have decided to cut any association with this forum now?
Which is why taizoon bhai has closed his blog as many of his readers are from this forum?

Perhaps taizoon bhai will re-appear again soon using a different platform?
But next time, only for the benefit of people who follow SKQ and the previous dais and imams?

Whatever the reason is, I sincerely hope taizoon bhai has not disappeared permanently.

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Re: Saifee Mahal - The Inside Stories

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Unread post by SBM » Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:36 pm

CT
unfortunately diaper changing lady assumes too many things
Taizoon Shakir is reading this forum and there are many valid reasons he stopped posting because of safety to his family and nasty postings.

Critical_Thinker
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Re: Saifee Mahal - The Inside Stories

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Unread post by Critical_Thinker » Wed Jan 28, 2015 10:28 pm

SBM wrote:CT
unfortunately diaper changing lady assumes too many things
Taizoon Shakir is reading this forum and there are many valid reasons he stopped posting because of safety to his family and nasty postings.
Sbm, are you missing your wahhabi husband?
You must know why has suddenly become very quiet.
Has he received another warning from admin which has made him wet his pants?
Dont worry, you are very good at changing his diapers.

Taizoon bhai and his family are quite safe in america, indeed he has the upper hand over them if they try to harm him.
If nasty postings on the internet scare him so much, then he is a pathetic coward who is not worthy of following SKQ.

I want to believe taizoon bhai is a very brave and determined man who will fight for the truth no matter what.
Therefore I want to believe he has other reasons for this sudden change.
Maybe I am hoping for too much, but hopeful I shall remain.

Please do come back taizoon bhai, you are the only significant person on this forum.

SBM
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Re: Saifee Mahal - The Inside Stories

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Unread post by SBM » Wed Jan 28, 2015 10:51 pm

CT
You must know why has suddenly become very quiet
That is the only sensible and factual thing you have ever said.

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Re: Saifee Mahal - The Inside Stories

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Unread post by NoorAli-M » Thu Jan 29, 2015 12:58 am

SBM wrote:
CT
You must know why has suddenly become very quiet
That is the only sensible and factual thing you have ever said.
you have done more harm to whole real agenda of this forum to great extend, your stupidity and anti Islamic views have drive out many momeenin who really wanted to see change, if you continue your stupidity this forum may die soon and only you and your wahabi husband (Anajmi) will be left here to rub each other back.

ADMIN must stop these two idiots from posting any nonsense further.

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Re: Saifee Mahal - The Inside Stories

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Unread post by zinger » Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:46 am

SBM wrote:CT
unfortunately diaper changing lady assumes too many things
Taizoon Shakir is reading this forum and there are many valid reasons he stopped posting because of safety to his family and nasty postings.
SBM bhai, have sent you a pm. please see it

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Re: Saifee Mahal - The Inside Stories

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Unread post by zinger » Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:46 am

NoorAli-M wrote:
SBM wrote: That is the only sensible and factual thing you have ever said.
you have done more harm to whole real agenda of this forum to great extend, your stupidity and anti Islamic views have drive out many momeenin who really wanted to see change, if you continue your stupidity this forum may die soon and only you and your wahabi husband (Anajmi) will be left here to rub each other back.

ADMIN must stop these two idiots from posting any nonsense further.
Welcome (BACK) :mrgreen:

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Re: Saifee Mahal - The Inside Stories

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Unread post by mnoorani » Thu Jan 29, 2015 7:18 am

NoorAli-M wrote:
SBM wrote: That is the only sensible and factual thing you have ever said.
you have done more harm to whole real agenda of this forum to great extend, your stupidity and anti Islamic views have drive out many momeenin who really wanted to see change, if you continue your stupidity this forum may die soon and only you and your wahabi husband (Anajmi) will be left here to rub each other back.

ADMIN must stop these two idiots from posting any nonsense further.
Najane Q, jab SBM kuch likh deta hai
Bohot so ka dil jalne lagta hai
Rooh kaanp uth ti hai, uske maut ki dua maang te hai
lekin Noorani , inki harkat ko ilzaam na de ,yeh to sirf kabutar baaz hai.

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Re: Saifee Mahal - The Inside Stories

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Unread post by kimanumanu » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:28 am

Saif53 wrote: MATERNAL NASAB
From Amatullah Aisaheba's QR FATHER:

Syedna Mufaddal TUS > Amatullah Aisaheba QR > (father) > Abdulhusain BS > Taher Bs > Ratan Aisaheba > Sh Saleh Mohammed > Sh Rehmat Ali > Wali Mohammed > Meer Jafar Khan > Meer Hasan Khan > Meer Mahabat Ali Khaan > (father) Meer Mahamid Ali Khaan > Meer Hamid Ali Khan > [lineage continues to] Imam Jafar al Sadiq AS > Imam Zayn al Abedeen AS > Imam Husain AS > Moulana Ali AS, Moulatena Fatema AS, Rasulullah SAW
Is this for real - any more details about the bit in bold?

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Re: Saifee Mahal - The Inside Stories

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Unread post by natkhat pari » Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:28 am

Nasab
goes upto adam nabi

NoorAli-M
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Re: Saifee Mahal - The Inside Stories

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Unread post by NoorAli-M » Sat Jan 31, 2015 1:48 pm

who was meer hasan khan and meer mahabat Ali khan?

Miya bhai? if their forefathers were miya bhai why they hate miya bhai these days?

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Re: Saifee Mahal - The Inside Stories

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Unread post by dawedaar » Sun Feb 08, 2015 11:48 pm

What I got from reading the last few messages of this thread is people throwing mud at each other n some nonsence. Once again, a thread has been hijacked as usual. There is more gibberish than actual content!

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Re: Saifee Mahal - The Inside Stories

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Unread post by objectiveobserver53 » Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:37 pm

kimanumanu wrote:
Saif53 wrote: MATERNAL NASAB
From Amatullah Aisaheba's QR FATHER:

Syedna Mufaddal TUS > Amatullah Aisaheba QR > (father) > Abdulhusain BS > Taher Bs > Ratan Aisaheba > Sh Saleh Mohammed > Sh Rehmat Ali > Wali Mohammed > Meer Jafar Khan > Meer Hasan Khan > Meer Mahabat Ali Khaan > (father) Meer Mahamid Ali Khaan > Meer Hamid Ali Khan > [lineage continues to] Imam Jafar al Sadiq AS > Imam Zayn al Abedeen AS > Imam Husain AS > Moulana Ali AS, Moulatena Fatema AS, Rasulullah SAW
Is this for real - any more details about the bit in bold?
Saif53 is laying the foundation for declaring [DELETED] Mufaddal as imam....

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Re: Saifee Mahal - The Inside Stories

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Unread post by SBM » Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:40 pm

dawedaar wrote:What I got from reading the last few messages of this thread is people throwing mud at each other n some nonsence. Once again, a thread has been hijacked as usual. There is more gibberish than actual content!

Agree and I hope Admin will start deleting unnecessary posts or move to some other thread Might as well bring Saifuddin v/s Saifuddin posts to Sticky too

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Re: Saifee Mahal - The Inside Stories

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Unread post by kimanumanu » Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:54 pm

objectiveobserver53 wrote: Saif53 is laying the foundation for declaring [DELETED] Mufaddal as imam....
You should read this in that case: https://abdesyedna.wordpress.com/2014/0 ... uddin-tus/

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Re: Saifee Mahal - The Inside Stories

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Unread post by lawgraduate » Mon Feb 09, 2015 3:07 pm

kimanumanu wrote:
objectiveobserver53 wrote: Saif53 is laying the foundation for declaring [DELETED] Mufaddal as imam....
You should read this in that case: https://abdesyedna.wordpress.com/2014/0 ... uddin-tus/
omg this has been stretched a bit too far.... really surprised reading this page. I knew finally somebody from this clan will claim to be Imam so that there are no further divisions, but I never thought this will come so early.

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Re: Saifee Mahal - The Inside Stories

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Unread post by UnhappyBohra » Mon Feb 09, 2015 4:56 pm

lawgraduate wrote:
kimanumanu wrote: You should read this in that case: https://abdesyedna.wordpress.com/2014/0 ... uddin-tus/
omg this has been stretched a bit too far.... really surprised reading this page. I knew finally somebody from this clan will claim to be Imam so that there are no further divisions, but I never thought this will come so early.
Smoke and mirrors made MS dai to the blind and smoke and mirrors will make him imam to the same... It all starts with glossing over details that "establish" his lineage...conveniently through his mother's side... Hogwash interpretation of surahs of the Qur'an...Voila! An imam emerges!

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Re: Saifee Mahal - The Inside Stories

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Unread post by lawgraduate » Mon Feb 09, 2015 10:11 pm

UnhappyBohra wrote:
lawgraduate wrote: omg this has been stretched a bit too far.... really surprised reading this page. I knew finally somebody from this clan will claim to be Imam so that there are no further divisions, but I never thought this will come so early.
Smoke and mirrors made MS dai to the blind and smoke and mirrors will make him imam to the same... It all starts with glossing over details that "establish" his lineage...conveniently through his mother's side... Hogwash interpretation of surahs of the Qur'an...Voila! An imam emerges!
this is no joke, soon this guy will claim to be Imam and then he will abolish shariah and only thing which will remain with bohras will be music, parties and dance. this has already happened with other so called islamic community.

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Re: Saifee Mahal - The Inside Stories

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Unread post by think » Tue Feb 10, 2015 12:45 pm

he may call himself imam or whatever but is he really, can only be determined by his deeds. SMS is not the only miracle man that people bow down to him. I see all humans as performers of miracles. There have been many a times in everyone's life when he is in despair or needs something and he asks Allah for help and that problem is solved or thing is given to him. That in itself is a miracle performed by you and none other but your creator "the almighty Allah" blessed you with it and eased your burden. so you do perform miracles in your life. It is your strong belief in Allah that makes it happen. It is your faith that turns stones. so have your faith in Allah and none other.

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Re: Saifee Mahal - The Inside Stories

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Unread post by qjbj » Tue Feb 10, 2015 5:16 pm

I noticed on Wikipedia they list SKQ was born 1940 and SMS was born 1946. So when STS died SKQ was 25 and SMS was 20. I could couldn't find the date QJ was born. I assume he was the eldest child of SMB so he would have to be over 20. The point I'm trying to make is when STS died all the eligible future Dai's whom SMB and even STS (before he died) could make Mazum would all be in the same age range. That is SMB must have compared SMS, QJ, and SKQ and seen who had the best qualities to be Mazum. SMS was not very small, he was already 20yrs old so SMB could have made him Mazum but he did not. So this shows SMB did not think any of his kids were future dai candidates.

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Re: Saifee Mahal - The Inside Stories

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Unread post by New » Tue Feb 10, 2015 10:58 pm

A Major Demotion

There is a talk about Muffy being declared IMAM. Brothers and sisters do not you see the stepping down from GOD to mere IMAM ?