Moharrum and Ashara 2015

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dawedaar
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Re: Ashara in Houston?

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Unread post by dawedaar » Thu Sep 10, 2015 12:55 pm

Afzalus-Salaam,
In Pakistan Shz. Qaidjohar Bhaisaheb DM ye Ashara ni Araz kidi, ke Mumbai ma thai. Araz am aim farmayu ke " Aa waras Ghuratul Masajid Saifee Masjid nu last year che. Next year to Shaheed thai jase. And than off course the time for the new complex to develop.
And Mazoon Saheb DM ye Araz moklawe ke " Mara Umar no su bharoso "
Ashara in Mumbai Inshallah. Mubarak Mohannah to all

SBM
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Re: Ashara in Houston?

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Unread post by SBM » Thu Sep 10, 2015 2:05 pm

Just an observation
Why would they do Ashra elsewhere if they want to impress Justice Patel. Kothari Goons will wine and dine (literally wine) the media to broadcast and give interviews to impress upon Justice Patel.
If they do it in Houston, the maximum they can have is about 10 thousand Abdes/Amtes which is not very impressive and specially this will NOT be seen in Mumbai media circle. By keeping in Mumbai, they can parade Political misfits to visit SMS and his goons and thus create another aura of SMS reach and bring additional pressure on Justice Patel.
just a thought

Al-Noor
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Re: Ashara in Houston?

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Unread post by Al-Noor » Thu Sep 10, 2015 2:38 pm

many days back I mentioned, muffy will chose some cheap and local place for muharram this year so that more and more abdes can flock for his waez and it can help him in his case. mazoon of muffy knows his days are near yet he is reluctant from tauba this amazes me. bhai mere marne se pehle koi ek kaam to dhang ka kar ke jaa, muffy ki haqikat duniyaa ko bata ke jaa pleaseeeeeee.present mazoon can play key role for this case but I think before court ask him to appear muffy and his gunda will send him to his permanent place. :shock:

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Re: Ashara in Houston?

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Sep 10, 2015 4:02 pm

dawedaar wrote:Afzalus-Salaam,
In Pakistan Shz. Qaidjohar Bhaisaheb DM ye Ashara ni Araz kidi, ke Mumbai ma thai. Araz am aim farmayu ke " Aa waras Ghuratul Masajid Saifee Masjid nu last year che. Next year to Shaheed thai jase. And than off course the time for the new complex to develop.
And Mazoon Saheb DM ye Araz moklawe ke " Mara Umar no su bharoso "
Ashara in Mumbai Inshallah. Mubarak Mohannah to all
There is a rebuttal by abdes on watsup saying that the above is not true as Qaid Chor is not in Pakistan.

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Re: Ashara in Houston?

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Unread post by alam » Thu Sep 10, 2015 4:15 pm

There is a mix of trash and treasure in Bohras SMS/what'sApp world these days. It is upto each receiving messages to decipher the meaning, relevance, source and ultimate purpose of that particular message ending up in your mailbox.

Like it or not, people are going to have to use their common sense and some intellect to sort through the mixed bag of trash vs treasure and move on.. Good luck. Better to filter and clean out your own lenses before absorbing info.

dawedaar
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Re: Ashara in Houston?

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Unread post by dawedaar » Thu Sep 10, 2015 4:28 pm

Yes, and any messages that the abdes and amtes don't like such as those which point fingers at SMS, Qasre aalis, jamaat, aamils and show them in bad light are termed as fake and work of muddai/dawedaar/dushman!

Any message such as mojiza of SMS, mojiza of FMB, and those that show the mafia in good light etc are favorites.

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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Tue Sep 15, 2015 6:54 pm

watsup msg

Forwarded as Received :

LABBAIK YA DAIALLAH !

Introducing Ashara Mubaraka bags/kits for children

Each kit contains :
1 Pc. Customised Non-woven Drawstring Bagpack
1 Pc. Ashara activity book for 9 days
1 Pc. Customised Tasbeeh in Red and Green colour
1 Box crayons OR 1 Box Colour pencils

Available for 2 Age groups
A) for Kids aged 3-6
B) for Kids aged 7-12

Price: Rs.275/- per kit.

The above kit is available with Mamlooke Syedna (tus)... For those who are interested can contact me at 9486578652, 9894463784


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SBM
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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by SBM » Tue Sep 15, 2015 6:58 pm

^
Nice to know some one is making money by keeping students away from School for 9 days. Who says Abdes are not entrepreneurs.

qjbj
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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by qjbj » Wed Sep 16, 2015 10:37 am

What about Ashara Mubaraka bags/kits for adults? Here are some ideas that could go into an adult kit. I have no copyright so any one can go ahead and implement and make some money.

- Many blank envelopes to be filled by abdes for salam to all zadas, amils, their wives etc....
- Rumal to help in rouva jevo mo when abdes go hysterical when MS enters and start shouting Moula Moula
- Velan to help make rotis during breaks. May be colored ones so they can stand out and generate fake compliments from Amils
- Tasbee to make one look important
- Tupperware tifins to take home any left over food

ghulam muhammed
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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Wed Sep 16, 2015 4:17 pm

Well said !! :) :)

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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Wed Sep 16, 2015 6:19 pm

Asharah Mubaraka 1437h Students and parents testimonials

Ba'ad al-Salaam al-Jaleel

The maqam of al-Dai al-Ajal Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin RA in the remembrance of Moulana al-Imam al-Husain SA has been inscribed in gold onto the pages of history in a way that no Mumin will ever forget his radiant countenance as he presided over these precious majaalis of Zikre Husain SA. Indeed, it is this very same noorani manzar that Mumineen are honoured to witness when his mansoos, al-Dai al-Ajal Syedna Aali Qadr Mufaddal Saifuddin TUS ascends the Imami Takht Mubarak and recounts the tragic events of Karbala mu'alla. In an unprecedented manner, Syedna al-Dai al-Ajal TUS has called upon us Mumineen to attend each and every majlis of Ashara Mubaraka from the 2nd of Mohurrum, arriving at the venue wa'az before it commences.

Invariably, Syedna al-Dai al-Ajal's TUS khushi Mubarak is each Mumin's foremost priority. Therefore, Mumineen all over the world are saying "labbayka ya Da'i Allah" to Moula's TUS call and making preparations long beforehand to ensure that Moula's TUS farmaan can be upheld.

Every Mumin student understands that the divine knowledge and true education is received only through the Ilm of Aale Mohammed SA and that the nine days of Ashara Mubaraka are the most ideal and beneficial forum to receive the barakaat of this 'Ilm at the hands of the scholar of the Ahle Bayt SA, Syedna Aali Qadr Mufaddal Saifuddin TUS, or those who deliver wa'az with his raza Mubarak and farmaan.

In light of this historic movement, Mahad al-Hasaanat al-Burhaniya wishes to compile student and parent testimonials regarding their efforts in ensuring they are able to attend Ashara Mubaraka with Syedna al-Dai al-Ajal TUS or in their respective towns and cities. These testimonials will demonstrate how Moula's TUS dua Mubarak has aided them in these efforts and the barakaat they have experienced. Insha'Allah these testimonials will be compiled and presented in hadrat imaamiyah nooraniyah.

Mumineen students who wish to share their experiences may submit write-ups, videos, or audio clips at the following email address :

asharaohbat@talabulilm.com

Note:
Limits:
Audio - 5 minutes
Video - 5 minutes
Write-ups - 150 words

Please do not submit any araa'iz or hawaij at this email.

Wa al-salaam.

Al-Noor
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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by Al-Noor » Thu Sep 17, 2015 12:39 am

Let us update if you get any reply.

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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by Al-Noor » Thu Sep 17, 2015 1:25 am

^
bohras and waniyas can make money out of any event.... :lol: Idea is too cool.

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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by dawedaar » Thu Sep 17, 2015 5:06 pm

Reposting my comment as it got accidently delete by moderator as per him/her.

My email below to asharaohbat@talabulilm.com

Request others to send a message to the above email id!


I feel that gham of Imam Hussain is not only about going to waez for 3-4 hours, crying and doing matam but after coming out of waez, we tend to do all things that Imam Hussain and Panjatan Pak (AS) would not approve off. Real gham of Panjatan pak (AS) is following them and leading a life like them but today look at Maula and his family. They live ultra luxurious lives. They live in palatial houses, travel in luxurious cars and private jets. Panjatan Pak AS lived a simple and humble life. And look at today, our Maula and his family don't have a single quality of Panjatan Pak (AS)
Al-Noor wrote:Let us update if you get any reply.

ghulam muhammed
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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Sep 17, 2015 5:44 pm

Bro dawedaar,

It will be interesting to see Kothar's reaction to your reply.

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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by dawedaar » Fri Sep 18, 2015 2:18 am

Message doing rounds in bohra circles that SMS will be in Boston on eid e gadheer and ofcourse followed by Ashara in abde hub houston... Got inside information that the so called royal family members have already booked tickets to US... Anybody else can validate this?

KM1
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Houston Ashara Scam by M&H

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Unread post by KM1 » Fri Sep 18, 2015 6:57 am

Does anyone know why Malik ashter n Husain is son in law wants Houston so desperately

Scam list
First time in history of Dawat-e-Hadiyah Badri Mahal office is been used for Visa why to make 4500 rupees

They all know in Badri Mahal they can get away with any illegal work under what justification are they charging this fee

on each ticket 4000 to 5000 Rs they are making they are so desperate to make money they are sending all to Dallas and other city and then by road woww
No free accommodation so again there scam

Food free to make niyaz scam

From each house Ashara contribution 5000 to 52000 us dollars

Easily one event they both will earn 50 million dollars and there front man Kandivali and is son will make 25%

Kandivali who had no money today has so much money so are they fools they don't know he is corrupt or involved and all eyes shut like a cat

What will community loose
Each person minimum 2500 us dollars expense so may be if 5000 people travels from India just imagine how much money will be lost just for someone personnel gain

95% people will not get benefits of Mola s waaz so then why Houston thinkthink

Always Mola says ke Imam ul Zaman farmayu che so then how did Malik got this news in advance is he also connected

Think think before it's too late

If you like this then send this message on WhatsApp and all the other means

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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Sep 18, 2015 5:12 pm

KM1 wrote:From each house Ashara contribution 5000 to 52000 us dollars
These religious mafias are demanding MINIMUM 5000 US Dollars per family ACROSS UNITED STATES. I came to know of this because my friend's son who lives alone and works in Chicago got a call from the local jamaat to shell out 5000 USD, it works out to Rs.3,30,000/- Indian Rupees as per present rate of exchange which is around Rs.66/- per USD !! Now multiply the number of families settled in USA, some of which will be paying a much higher amount.

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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Sep 18, 2015 5:27 pm

MOHURRUM -- MAATAM
AFTER NAMAZ -- MAATAM
AFTER NIKAH -- MAATAM
SALGIRAH -- MAATAM
URUS -- MAATAM
DAREES -- MAATAM

AND NOW.........INVITE THE CLOWN TO YOUR CITY FOR MOHURRUM VAYEZ -- MAATAM !!


Matam Majlis on Niyaat of Huzurala Tus performed 1436H Ashara Mubarak in Surat

4th Zilhajj, 1436
Location: India, Surat
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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by KM1 » Fri Sep 18, 2015 10:07 pm

Why do they need this contribution when more than 95% people are going to pay for their own expense
Also they have started a fund for Free tickets for people who cannot afford so are they planning to take three hundred thousand bohra s for free or only ones who are going to work for free for them so again free labour.


IF SBUT PROJECT IS IMPORTANT don't you think then it needs more blessing then Houston if more then 1 lakh bohra s will do matam on the plot so WHY HOUSTON what's so special about Houston.

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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by seeker110 » Sat Sep 19, 2015 12:42 am

The whole lot at qasera aali and amils every where will have a grand vacation and the abdes will be picking up the tab. The daily ziafat income triples for the dai and his immediate family.

Local abdes will get to enjoy their ungrateful guests. Slave for them, and give them all their savings. Moula ni khushi ma tamara khisa khali karo.

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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by New » Sat Sep 19, 2015 1:09 pm

The line of Abdes out side the American Consulate, remind me of the story of PIED PIPER. They will be willing lead to to the Houston Channel with their pockets emptied first. Dr. Doomster Dawedar Mudfadal Saifuddin BS TUS Abu JS BS DM.

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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by think » Sat Sep 19, 2015 3:36 pm

These fools have completely distorted the sanctity of matam by making it a common every day thing. Matam no longer relates to the extreme sorrow and saddness one feels at the massacre of Imam Hussain and his family but just an everyday action like eating , drinking and you know what.

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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by think » Sun Sep 20, 2015 10:39 am

matam is the last resort. The pain of a loved one is so intense that one starts beating himself . People beat their chest, slap their faces, etc. but kothar has made this very sacriligious act an every day event. and on top of that to state that "rova jeevo mu banau" is total hypocrisy. such directions of the kothar should be openly condemed.

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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by SBM » Sun Sep 20, 2015 11:23 am

think wrote:matam is the last resort. The pain of a loved one is so intense that one starts beating himself . People beat their chest, slap their faces, etc.
And you are right Since Abdes/Amtes are doing Maatam as last resort since they have no spine to stand up against the atrocities of Kothari Goons (and the love of their faith which Kothar is making fun of is so intense) that they can only beat themselves.

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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by bohrabhai » Mon Sep 21, 2015 10:07 am

Houston is confirmed ..

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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by bohrabhai » Mon Sep 21, 2015 10:20 am

please change ashara oppression 2015 name to dawoodi bohra mohaarum and ashara 2015 or something like that because it will bring uniformity for future years and and search engine detect these words easily .

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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by bohrabhai » Mon Sep 21, 2015 11:57 am

Forwarded as received
હિમશીલાની ટોચ :::

મોહર્રમના 10 દિવસો વેપાર ધંધા બંધ રાખવાંનું નુકશાન એ 10 દિવસો પૂરતું નથી. નુકશાન જે દેખાય છે એ હિમશીલાની ટોચ છે. વર્તમાન વેપાર ધંધા મોનોપોલી પ્રકારનાં રહ્યાં નથી. તીવ્ર હરીફાઈ છે ગુજરાતમાં પટેલો અને સિન્ધી વેપારીઓ વહોરા વેપારીઓને હરિફાઈમાં સખત ટક્કર આપે છે. દુકાનની અલગ ભારે રકમની સબીલ, વાજેબાતથી માંડીને અનેક નામે વર્ષભરના મોટી રકમનાં ભારથી વહોરા વેપારીઓ મૂડીની તંગી ભોગવતા હોય છે. આ બાબત બીજા વેપારીઓને નડતી નથી. મંદી, દુષ્કાળનું વર્ષ અને મોંઘવારી જેવા કારણસર વેપારીઓ બીજા વેપારીનાં કસ્ટમરને પોતાનાં તરફ ખેંચવાનાં હર કોઈ દાવ ખેલતા હોય છે, ત્યારે 10 દિવસો મોમીનો દુકાન બંધ રાખે તો હરીફ વેપારીઓને પોતાના કાયમી કસ્ટમર સ્વ હસ્તે 'વકફ' કરવાં બરાબર છે. મુઠ્ઠીભર વહોરા વેપારીઓને બાદ કરતાં અનેક વેપારીઓ આર્થિકરીતે ઘસાય ગયા છે. વેપારમાં આવક હોય કે નાં હોય; કોમમાં રહેવાં માટે શક્તિ બહારનો મોટી રકમનો બોજ ઉઠાવવો પડે છે !
આમીલોએ ક્યારેય વેપાર કર્યો નથી એટલે વેપારીઓની મુશ્કેલી તેઓ ક્યારેય સમજવાનાં નથી. આવી જ સમશ્યા નોકરીયાતોની છે. ઉચ્ચ અભ્યાસનાં અભાવે ઘણાં કમ વહોરાઓ સરકારી કે સંગઠીત ક્ષેત્રની નોકરીમાં છે. વધારે પ્રમાણમાં અસંગઠિત ક્ષેત્રમાં અસુરક્ષિત છે અને ટૂંકા પગારે નોકરી કરે છે. પેઢીમાં એમનું ખાસ મહત્વ ન હોવાથી 10 દિવસોની આવા કારણસરની રજા મળે નહી; નોકરી માંથી છુટ્ટા જ કરી આપે. બરકતના નામ પર મોમીનોને ઉલ્લું બનાવતાં અને મૌલાનાં હુસેનનાં ગમનો વાસ્તો આપતાં આમીલો આ દિવસોમાં પણ પોતાની દુકાન ખુલ્લી રાખશે !
ખુદ મૌલાનાં એ ગોધરામાં મોમીનોને હિદાયત આપી કે, તમારાં ગામ / શહેરમાં બયાન કરવાં આવનાર આમીલોને બરાબર ઈકરામ કરજો !
શાળા / કોલેજનાં વિદ્યાર્થીઓને આ દિવસોમાં રજા રાખવાની કે પરિક્ષા મોકુફીની ફરજ પાડવી એ તો એમની કારકિર્દી સાથે ગંદી રમત રમવા સમાન છે.
આ માટેનાં પ્રચારનાં video whats app પર ફરે છે જેમાં એક બહેને શાળાની પ્રિન્સીપાલને કરેલી દલીલ કેટલી વાહિયાત છે એ જોઈએ,

પ્રિન્સીપાલ: આશરા તો એક દિવસનાં છે, તો તમે રજા 10 દિવસોની કેમ માંગો છો ?
વહોરા બેન: દિવાળી તો એક જ દિવસની હોય છે તો તમે વેકેશન કેમ 7 દિવસનું રાખો છો ?

વહોરાબેનની આવી બુદ્ધિ ગમ્ય દલીલથી અભિભૂત થઈને પ્રિન્સિપાલે રજા મંજુર કરી આપી!
બુદ્ધિશાળી વહોરા બેન વેકેશન અને ગેર હાજરીનો તફાવત જ નથી જાણતા ! આમીલની ઓફિસમાં બેસીને મોમીનો પાસેથી જબર જસ્તીથી પડાવેલા પૈસા માંથી ટકાવારીમાં કમીશન ખાતાં તન્ઝીમના મેમ્બરો જે તે શાળા / કોલેજોમાં જઈને રજાની મંજૂરી માટેની દલીલ ટકાવારીમાં સમજાવીને અક્કલનું પ્રદર્શન કરતાં કહે છે કે, તમામ પ્રકારની રજાઓ બાદ કરતાં શિક્ષણ કાર્ય 365 માંથી 180 દિવસો થાય છે. એમાં 9 દિવસો ગેર હાજર રહે તો 5 % ગેર હાજરી થઇ !
એમને કોણ સમજાવે કે, ઉચ્ચ અભ્યાસમાં એક માર્ક માટે એડમીશન ના થાય ત્યારે એ ગેર હાજરી કેટલી મોંઘી પડે છે !
બે જવાબદાર કમીટી મેમ્બરોની આ પ્રકારની દખલગીરી આવનારા સમયમાં મોમીન બાળકોને સારી સ્કુલોમાં એડ્મિશનથી વંચિત રાખે એવી આશંકા અસ્થાને નથી.

AgnosticIndian
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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

#209

Unread post by AgnosticIndian » Mon Sep 21, 2015 1:43 pm

Heard the clip of the announcement of Houston as venue for Ashara. No Ilham or Imam was there or required. Direct announcement. No need for Imam to tell MS anything now. Free to go wherever :lol: :mrgreen:

JC
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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

#210

Unread post by JC » Mon Sep 21, 2015 3:04 pm

Imam and his stories are now part of history ............. the new rulers have moved on ............

Whatever Muffy says on the instructions of Chuster and Q Chor ............ now the new Imam is this troika ................. :D

And you can see, now abdes do not give a damn about Imam ...........!!!!!!!!!!

Labaika Ya-Dai-Allah ................ :D