Moharrum and Ashara 2015

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JC
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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by JC » Sun Oct 18, 2015 8:38 pm

Abdes will keep on paying, no matter what .......... they are brain dead slaves, period.

On 5th day so-called bayan Muffat-Dal clearly said that Dais are the 'ghoras' of Imams ......... and Imams ride them! Imam 'has' to go wherever Dai takes him, he has no choice!! For this he quoted famous 'Maro ghoru jay jaga ruko chay tay jaga nu su nam chay' and the other one which is being propagated currently is where one Dai wrote to other Dai who said people in his town (probably Jamanager) will even NOT accept Imam until and unless 'Dai Imam nay Olkhawsay' (unless Dai 'introduces' Imam) ........... so there we go, soon we will hear this in more details and via other moajezas and alike that Imam is NOTHING without Dai .........

Muffat-Dal again narrated the conversation between Imam Hussain and his horse when Imam was sitting near 'Khajuri Nu Jahar' .... so I conclude that Dais are the descendants of some 'Ghora' ............ and they indeed are Ghora, well better than Ghada..!!!

Lastly, now a new trend, the very ending of the recitation of Shadat ........... before he finally stands up, a few minutes praises (yet 100th time) of ALL The DAIs ............. and their Ehsan ............. so Recitation of Shadat + Ehsanat of Dai = Follow More-La (and go to ???)

alivasan
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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by alivasan » Sun Oct 18, 2015 11:37 pm

ghulam muhammed wrote:watsup msg

Forwarded as Received :


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what a scarcastic comparision..strongly feel this should be published on other forums,online boards,blogs, whataspp groups, twitter run by muslim ummah

p.s
Sarcasm is the use of irony to make a derogatory, scathing, witty attack on muffy and kothar.

alivasan
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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by alivasan » Mon Oct 19, 2015 12:08 am

ghulam muhammed wrote:HOUSTON MOHURRUM CARNIVAL PURPOSE REVEALED !! MISSION ACCOMPLISHED !!

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apno mufflo fakru bhanpura je dallas no amil che ana sathe 2 tali garba rami rahyo che.moharram ma takht per besa besa muffla ne 2 tali garba ramwa nu mood thai gayu.su su thai jai.

dawedaar
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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by dawedaar » Mon Oct 19, 2015 1:01 am

The pics being circulated of abdes n amtes posing with skimpily claded girls are from florida it seems and are fron mostly pre moharram days.

Al-Noor
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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by Al-Noor » Mon Oct 19, 2015 1:18 am

ghulam muhammed wrote:HOUSTON MOHURRUM CARNIVAL PURPOSE REVEALED !! MISSION ACCOMPLISHED !!

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I wonder how come DAI hand is down and his chamcha hand is on top? :lol: picture speaks a lot.....wake up abdes wake up. who is doing salaam of whom? this guy is joker #1

summer123
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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by summer123 » Mon Oct 19, 2015 1:54 am

Whats app msg....
Forwarded as received

Kota masjid....azam na kaee asar nathi....
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think_for_yourself
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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by think_for_yourself » Mon Oct 19, 2015 2:21 am

dawedaar wrote:The pics being circulated of abdes n amtes posing with skimpily claded girls are from florida it seems and are fron mostly pre moharram days.
The lady is carrying an ashara bag which presumably was handed in Houston. Regardless, potu kaka posing with short shorts babes was inappropriate no matter what!

humanbeing
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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by humanbeing » Mon Oct 19, 2015 8:44 am

When Muffay maula announced his tour of amreeka for ashara carnival .. many abdes jumped in joy ... amreeka farva malsey .. maula na ehsaan ane karam che .. je mumino ne duniya ne ser karavey chey ..

after ashara .. muffay maula is booked left, right and center for nikaah, nisbat, misaak, ziyafats, kadam, iftedaah etc etc .. it full on dhandhey ka time ...

dawedaar
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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by dawedaar » Mon Oct 19, 2015 9:37 am

Yes sir Sherlock! You solved the mystery! Yes, that bag is being handed to everyone who does arrival scanning at the Houston masjid complex!
think_for_yourself wrote:
dawedaar wrote:The pics being circulated of abdes n amtes posing with skimpily claded girls are from florida it seems and are fron mostly pre moharram days.
The lady is carrying an ashara bag which presumably was handed in Houston. Regardless, potu kaka posing with short shorts babes was inappropriate no matter what!

dawedaar
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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by dawedaar » Mon Oct 19, 2015 1:28 pm

Daily in Houston, during evening majlis, 3 to 4 people stand up at the mike and do Dai marketing (using their own life story) and dawedaar bashing & laanat baazi. Last night, it was Badri Lacewala guy with well trimmed beard which was almost close to a stubble (Wonder how he was allowed prime time spot at the mike given his almost clean shave look) doing usual dai marketing and dawedaar bashing in his crappy language.

canadian
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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by canadian » Mon Oct 19, 2015 3:55 pm

dawedaar wrote:Daily in Houston, during evening majlis, 3 to 4 people stand up at the mike and do Dai marketing (using their own life story) and dawedaar bashing & laanat baazi. Last night, it was Badri Lacewala guy with well trimmed beard which was almost close to a stubble (Wonder how he was allowed prime time spot at the mike given his almost clean shave look) doing usual dai marketing and dawedaar bashing in his crappy language.
I do not think keeping a long beard is a pre-requisite to becoming a follower of MS or KQ, as I know of some very ardent abdes who are clean-shaven. Some do not shave on the day they have to attend a majlis.
Personally, I do not believe in either MS or KQ and do not sport a beard and (apart from a couple of reminders from the amil and his henchmen long ago), no one has so far bothered me when I attend some private function at the masjid.

dawedaar
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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by dawedaar » Mon Oct 19, 2015 4:01 pm

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ghulam muhammed
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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Mon Oct 19, 2015 4:14 pm

Yesterday a friend of mine in Surat got a call from BADRI MAHAL inquiring as to why he didnt attend vayez as his ITS card was not scanned !!

canadian
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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by canadian » Mon Oct 19, 2015 4:43 pm

Forwarded as received:-


"SECOND REMINDER FROM AMIL SAHEB
Urgent.
Aaqa moula tus daily waaz ma north america na mumeneen ne nawazi rahya che. Apan sagla nu wajib che k Aaqa moula tus na mehmano ane Imam husain a.s. na matam karnar ni khidmat kariye. NIYAZE HUSAIN ni raqam shehzada saheb na haath muubarak per arz kariye.
AAJEJ SAGLA ARZ KARI DE.
Niyaaz ma shamil thanar north america na mumeneen na naamo daily Aaqa moula tus ma arz thaee che.
Je sagla toronto ma che te sagla bhi toronto ma arz kare. Te raqam Aaqa moula tus ma arz thase."

ghulam muhammed
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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Mon Oct 19, 2015 4:44 pm

THE ''SHAAHI BHIKARIS'' OF SAIFEE MAHAL NOW COLLECT THEIR HAFTA THROUGH ABDE AGENTS !!

Qardan Hasana khidmat during Ashara at Mazar-e-Najmi Sehen Ujjain

7th Moharram, 1437
Location: MP, India, Ujjain, Najmi Mohalla


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ghulam muhammed
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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Mon Oct 19, 2015 4:46 pm

canadian wrote:Aaqa moula tus daily waaz ma north america na mumeneen ne nawazi rahya che.
It should read as ''Khaali kari rahya che'' !!

ghulam muhammed
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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

#467

Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:15 pm

watsup msg

Forwarded as Received :

Satta aur paise ke lobh main pagal sa holiyo,
Kya mai jhooth boliyo

20 vi sadi main roti main khaa liyo,
Kya mai jhooth boliyo

Wajebat ke naam pe abde ko loot liyo
Kya mai jhooth boliyo

Paise ki aas me bawaji ko pan na chhodiyo
Kya mai jhooth boliyo

Gilaaf par bhi business kar diyo
Kya mai jhooth boliyo

Bairo ko padha ne ki bajah kona pakadna sikha diyo
Kya mai jhooth boliyo

Fatema ki zari ke naam pe Sona ghasit liyo
Kya mai jhooth boliyo

Saat vi pass hokar bhi Doctorate kharid liyo
Kya mai jhooth boliyo

Satta ki race me kakaji par laanat boliyo
Kya mai jhooth boliyo

Husain ki majlis ki aad me tamasha kar diyo
Kya mai jhooth boliyo

Mere hi paise se mujh ko khila kar ehsan de diyo
Kya mai jhooth boliyo

Husain ke naam par Niyaz karva ke apno hisso le liyo
Kya mai jhooth boliyo

Husain ke dino me apni waah waahi karva diyo
Kya mai jhooth boliyo

Daakhli ke naam par laakho ugalva liyo
Kya mai jhooth boliyo

Husain ki ziyarat ke naam par laakho kama liyo
Kya mai jhooth boliyo

Abde ka jeena haram kar peace ka award le liyo
Kya mai jhooth boliyo

Hai Dai Imam ka, Dai Khuda ka ho liyoh
Kya mai jhooth boliyo

Hoga kafan saath main, Aur karam tumhara ye hamne tumhe aagah kar diyo
Kya mai jhooth boliyo

Dharm ke naam par ab bahut nahi chalega, ye hamne tumhe aagah kar diyo
Kya mai jhooth boliyo

Ab kahan theregi ye Loot, hamey ye bhi bata diyo
Kya mai jhooth boliyo

Saatvi pass hokar bhi 7 lakh Ullu o ka sardar ho liyo
Kya mai jhooth boliyo

Nacheez ne mola ki shaan me kuch kaside likhe hai. Kuch aap ke zehan main ho to add kar ke aage bhej de.
Kya mai jhooth boliyo !!

Fateh
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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by Fateh » Mon Oct 19, 2015 11:44 pm

JC wrote:Abdes will keep on paying, no matter what .......... they are brain dead slaves, period.

On 5th day so-called bayan Muffat-Dal clearly said that Dais are the 'ghoras' of Imams ......... and Imams ride them! Imam 'has' to go wherever Dai takes him, he has no choice!! For this he quoted famous 'Maro ghoru jay jaga ruko chay tay jaga nu su nam chay' and the other one which is being propagated currently is where one Dai wrote to other Dai who said people in his town (probably Jamanager) will even NOT accept Imam until and unless 'Dai Imam nay Olkhawsay' (unless Dai 'introduces' Imam) ........... so there we go, soon we will hear this in more details and via other moajezas and alike that Imam is NOTHING without Dai .........

Muffat-Dal again narrated the conversation between Imam Hussain and his horse when Imam was sitting near 'Khajuri Nu Jahar' .... so I conclude that Dais are the descendants of some 'Ghora' ............ and they indeed are Ghora, well better than Ghada..!!!

Lastly, now a new trend, the very ending of the recitation of Shadat ........... before he finally stands up, a few minutes praises (yet 100th time) of ALL The DAIs ............. and their Ehsan ............. so Recitation of Shadat + Ehsanat of Dai = Follow More-La (and go to ???)
A 7th failed doctor explain merits of ghoda to heard of gadha.(donkeys).

AMAFHH
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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by AMAFHH » Tue Oct 20, 2015 1:56 am

the Burhani guard (A terrror organization) are going house to house in many place's and asking to close the house and shops on Majalis time , also they are looking for person who are not attending the Majalis or are just scanning the cards and going back home

shaheed muthahari has said
Yazeed which was alive 1400yrs ago is dead and buring in hell , KNOW THE YAZEED OF YOUR TIME

Al-Noor
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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by Al-Noor » Tue Oct 20, 2015 3:15 am

AMAFHH wrote:the Burhani guard (A terrror organization) are going house to house in many place's and asking to close the house and shops on Majalis time , also they are looking for person who are not attending the Majalis or are just scanning the cards and going back home

shaheed muthahari has said
Yazeed which was alive 1400yrs ago is dead and buring in hell , KNOW THE YAZEED OF YOUR TIME
and they will do what?

Being_Bohra
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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by Being_Bohra » Tue Oct 20, 2015 4:38 am

Yes they came at my place too and I said I am working and can't afford to take leave for soamy days and my kid has exams so can't miss her school.

JC
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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by JC » Tue Oct 20, 2015 9:54 am

Zulm phir zulm hay ............ hud say burhta hay tu mit jata hay .............

fustrate_Bohra
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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by fustrate_Bohra » Tue Oct 20, 2015 11:12 am

Sorry am little deviating from the topic but am not able to find suitable thread to post this.

Usually I always use to listen Shiah waaz in muharram especially Atthar Saheb, this time he was too good his total focus was on inline message given by imams i.e. HUMANITY. The way he deliver his sermons and the eg. he gives is impressive.

I keep on hearing waaz from different shiah maulana but I didnt found any offensive which can hurt bohra sentiments than why it is banned by our dai.

For those who had not heard his sermons give it a try. Its come at 9 pm. IST at Zainabia channel.

anajmi
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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by anajmi » Tue Oct 20, 2015 12:20 pm

Just a thought, for Ashara every year, shouldn't the bohras pick a spot where their brethren are in trouble and fight to save them? For example, this year, the bohras, along with their Dai, could've gone to Yemen or Syria to fight and die like Hussain did. 

Or are they just paying lip service to Hussain and his sacrifice. Well, we all know the answer to that right? The bohras have courage only to beat themselves. [DELETED] Beat themselves, eat, shit and then start again in the morning!!

canadian
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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by canadian » Tue Oct 20, 2015 12:26 pm

anajmi wrote:Just a thought, for Ashara every year, shouldn't the bohras pick a spot where their brethren are in trouble and fight to save them? For example, this year, the bohras, along with their Dai, could've gone to Yemen or Syria to fight and die like Hussain did. 

Or are they just paying lip service to Hussain and his sacrifice. Well, we all know the answer to that right? The bohras have courage only to beat themselves. [DELETED] Beat themselves, eat, shit and then start again in the morning!!
Brutal but thought provoking.!

anajmi
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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by anajmi » Tue Oct 20, 2015 2:25 pm

Bohras in houston planned for what they were going to do for fun after Ashura, before they planned for Ashura. What a shame!!

ghulam muhammed
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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Tue Oct 20, 2015 5:16 pm

anajmi wrote:Bohras in houston planned for what they were going to do for fun after Ashura, before they planned for Ashura. What a shame!!
Their very purpose of going was ''America ni Visa hamna aaram thi mali rahi che ane khaava peeva nu pan FREE to chalo aa bahaane America to fari aavsu''

ghulam muhammed
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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Tue Oct 20, 2015 5:27 pm

Someone was asked a very tricky question by the US embassy and his Visa was rejected as he couldnt give any answer to the concerned officer....... The officer asked for the purpose of visit to which the abde replied that he wanted to attend Mohurrum sermons by his religious leader....... The officer asked what is Mohurrum about and the abde replied that it is a ceremony dedicated in the memory of martyrs of Karbala, Iraq........ The officer then saw his passport and said that if the martyrs of Karbala were so very important then why hasnt he visited Iraq yet to which the abde couldnt give any convincing answer.... The officer rejected his Visa on the grounds that if he hasnt cared to go to the shrines of the martyrs in Karbala then why is it important for him to go to Houston just to listen to the sermons !!

ghulam muhammed
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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

#479

Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Tue Oct 20, 2015 6:49 pm

watsup msg

Forwarded as Received :

5th waaz – 6th Mohurrum 1437
Houston Ashara

Khitab: Mumineen ni jamat, Muslemeen ni jamat

Ahedanas siratal mustaqim siratal lazina anamta alaihim gaeril maqdube alaehim walad dualeen ni ayat na padnar logo.

Rasulallah nazeer che nazaar karnar che ane guide karnar che. Khuda apne hidayat na aapnar che. Rasulallah na haath par Khuda ye apne hidayat aapi emaj te baad Imamo sagla hidayat aapta rahya ane te baad Duato hidayat aapta rahya.

Burhanuddin mola eva hidayat na aapnar hata ke apnu chehro joi nej hidayat mali jati. Apan Imamuz zaman si jodaila che to apne hidayat mali rahi che. Je aakhri dam lag hidayat na raasta.

Taher Saifuddin mola ye Quran ni ayat Burhanuddin mola par fasal farmavi : Surat duha (wal adiyate zabhan) (makkiya) : ‘’Wawajada ka daalan fahada’’.

Bacchao si aa dua (pag ni masa) padhawi : Alla huma sabbit kadamaiya – ane pachi ehni fewa batawi.

Burhanuddin mola si apne zindagi bhar hidayat leta rahya apna daaman si walga hata. Ane apna mout na nazdik koi jismaniyat ane koi ruhaniyat si apna daaman si walga hua hata.

Ghana logo ye car rent par lidi che, ghani nizaam si chalawu joye. Yaha na road Ghana smooth hoi che, chaaltaj jao chaaltaj jao.

Mumineen je tamney layak hoi ehwa kaam karjo.

GPRS nu example aapo, ke agar guidance follow na karo to bhatkai jaso. Seat belt nu example aapi ne ta’aat karvanu kidhu. Lambu rasto hoi je driver hoi ehna si waat karta rehvu joiye taa ke ehne jhoka na laagi jai.

Behlul ane Sadik Imam ni zikar,needle Madina na bahar sui dhundi rahyo tho, ehni zikar.

Mola Ali farmave che tamein accha ma acchi zindagi basar karo, Acchu khaavo acchu pehno magar haram ni taraf na jao.

Imtihan bhi sakhat thaai magar sabit qadam rehjo,. Mola Ali si yaari aapjo.

Khanjifeer ni zikar – Hisab ma farak padhu, Dai naaraz hata to raat bhar darwaza paraj khada rahya.

Abdul Kadir Hakimuddin mola ni zikar. Apni amanat dari ni zikar kidi. Sagla khidmat guzar ne irshad kidu ke sagla amanat dari si khidmat kare.

Qurane samit Qurane natik taraf hidayat de che.

Zakat ane vyaaj ni zikar. Rasulallah ye vyaaj par laanat padi che. Burhanuddin mola ye vyaaj na kichad si nikala, ajab apnu ehsan che. Dil ane dimaag ne kitnu sukun che.

Halaal ma barakat che, haram ma barakat nathi. Insan ehna aqal thi kamaave che – barabar che – magar yaad rahe raazik to Khuda che.

Maa baawa ni ta-at barabar karjo. Tamey ta-at karso to tamara bacchao tamari ta-at karse.

Kabootar ni zikar – Suleman Nabi ye hamaru wasilo lidu Khuda nazdeek Khuda ye aapne parinda ni zabaan sikhaavi.

Kabootar koi na makaan ya baari par bese to ye saadat kehwaye.

Ghar ma kabootar raakhva nu farmayu. Ger munasib raakhva nu manein farmayu. Kutra o hargiz na mukva joiye.

Kabootar Husain par gunno kari ne roi che.

Burhanuddin mola kabootar joi ne farmavta tha ke kyaare aa kabootar insani huzoor kalib ma aavse ane apna jem sherulla ma roza karse.

Burhanuddin mola ne Ghana logo – Mola huzoor kahi ne araz karta – ghanu mithu laage che – mola huzoor – mola huzoor.

Syedna Zainuddin ni zikar. Fateha nu jaman halal nathi thatu jyaar tak Quran padhi ne ehne sawab nahi pohchave.

Zubaan ne barabar sambhaali raakhjo, kaabu ma raakhjo, zubaan si aam tem hargiz na boljo kem ke tamari zubaan paak che – Husain ni tasbeeh karnar che.

Ghani dua kidhi – Khuda tamari 70 pidi lag barakat aap jo, tamney koi na ghar na mohtaj na karjo.

Rasulallah ni akhbar ane shahadat padhi.


ghulam muhammed
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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

#480

Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Tue Oct 20, 2015 7:04 pm

Mumineen can do Araz for Dua on Ashura Day 1437H. before midnight 12:00AM IST Thursday, 22nd October, 2015 / 10th Moharram al-Haraam 1437H. Kindly log on to www.its52.com with your ITS ID and password to araz Araz for Dua on Ashura Day 1437H.