Moharrum and Ashara 2015

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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by qjbj » Sat Oct 03, 2015 6:24 pm

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20 Salaam covers

Wow...they make sure their cut is there.

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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sat Oct 03, 2015 6:34 pm

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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sat Oct 03, 2015 6:35 pm

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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sat Oct 03, 2015 7:44 pm

watsup msg

Forwarded as Received :-

Ashara Mubaraka ni ohbat na silsila ma har roz Lisanud Dawat na alfaaz je waaz ma, khassatan shahadat na bayan ma istemal thai che ye har roza thoda alfaz mokalwama aavse. Farzando saathe discuss karjo taa ke waaz samajh padhe ane shahadat na bayan sunva ma lazzat aave.

Shukran.

1. Athar - zyaada pak
2. Adhaafan Mudhaafan - ghuna ghun (multifold)
3. Aakhereen - pachi aavnar logo
4. Aanju - aansu
5. Itmenaan - tasalli-sukun
6. Afwaaj - lashkar ni tukrio (armies)
7. Amar kidu - hukum kido
8. Awwaleen - pehle thaanaar logo
9. Be aab - jene pani na mile
10. Be sheer - jene doodh na mile
11. Basirat - samajhwani quwwat (aqal ni nazar)
12. Bandiwaan - qaidio
13. Bugaat - zyadti karnaarao-zalimo
14. Bosa devu - chumi levu
15. Bain - guzarnaar ne yaad kari ne rowwu-wallab karvu
16. Pordes na aaftab - dupeher na waqt na suraj je na saamne aankh theri na sakey
17. Pyaas ni shiddat - ghani zyaada pyaas
18. Peeri ni asaa - woh farzand je burhapa no saharo baney
19. Paighaam - message
20. Paow - pag

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AgnosticIndian
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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by AgnosticIndian » Sun Oct 04, 2015 5:50 am

Why don't they give sermon in the language people understand that is Gujarati than force them to learn new one?

ghulam muhammed wrote:watsup msg

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Ashara Mubaraka ni ohbat na silsila ma har roz Lisanud Dawat na alfaaz je waaz ma, khassatan shahadat na bayan ma istemal thai che ye har roza thoda alfaz mokalwama aavse. Farzando saathe discuss karjo taa ke waaz samajh padhe ane shahadat na bayan sunva ma lazzat aave.

Shukran.

1. Athar - zyaada pak
2. Adhaafan Mudhaafan - ghuna ghun (multifold)
3. Aakhereen - pachi aavnar logo
4. Aanju - aansu
5. Itmenaan - tasalli-sukun
6. Afwaaj - lashkar ni tukrio (armies)
7. Amar kidu - hukum kido
8. Awwaleen - pehle thaanaar logo
9. Be aab - jene pani na mile
10. Be sheer - jene doodh na mile
11. Basirat - samajhwani quwwat (aqal ni nazar)
12. Bandiwaan - qaidio
13. Bugaat - zyadti karnaarao-zalimo
14. Bosa devu - chumi levu
15. Bain - guzarnaar ne yaad kari ne rowwu-wallab karvu
16. Pordes na aaftab - dupeher na waqt na suraj je na saamne aankh theri na sakey
17. Pyaas ni shiddat - ghani zyaada pyaas
18. Peeri ni asaa - woh farzand je burhapa no saharo baney
19. Paighaam - message
20. Paow - pag

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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by alivasan » Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:40 am

ghulam muhammed wrote:watsup msg

Forwarded as Received :

LIST FOR HOUSTON MOHURRUM TAMASHA/CARNIVAL :

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Pl note that Underwear must have tag labelled as "labbaik ya muffatlal". If out of stock dont wear any underwear as per farman e ali for more barakat

Ozdundee
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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by Ozdundee » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:03 am

I salute this great man Isufali who fearlessly stood up against tyranny and falsehood , just as Husain AS stood up for justice against a political tyrant, what a way to emulate the true teachings of the Imam. May Isufalis deeds be accepted. This is the best example of what a reformist can do with the least expense and use his intellect to hunt down this false Diai.
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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by dawedaar » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:21 am

Because they know that if the masses start undestanding, they would run out of their business! So keep them ignorant, busy in jaman, daris, roti making, matam, fmb etc.. and enjoy ruling over the sheep!

AgnosticIndian wrote:Why don't they give sermon in the language people understand that is Gujarati than force them to learn new one?

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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by bohrabhai » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:42 am

Ba’ad al-Salaam al-Jameel,
Mahad al-Hasanaat al-Burhaniyah’s (Education Department) goal is to encourage the pursuit of both spiritual and temporal knowledge. The raza mubarak and khushi of AqaMaula TUS is our goal in all our educational endeavours, focusing on student guidance and career counselling that conform with our values.
During Houston Ashara 1437H, MHB aims to launch Talabulilm.com, a platform for all students to do Araz for Raza, and gain perspective through one on one and group counselling sessions.
We require professionals and counsellors to register for this khidmat. We request trained and certified career counsellors, student counsellors and professionals to counsel, advice and provide suitable career options for our students.
Please go to https://www.its52.com/Miqaat/AsharaKhidmatAraz.aspx and register to perform counselling khidmat during Ashara Mubaraka, Houston 1437. (Mention “Counseller” in skill sets)



Received very interesting mail. But this counselling is only for males. Females do not need career counseling because according mola. Emne to emna shohar na ghare javanu che. Ghar no khuno ekhteyaar karvano che. Emne home science karavone che.
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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:33 pm

watsup msg

Forwarded as Received :

Aali Waqar Shahzada Malekul Ashter BS inspecting Aqa Maula TUS Rolls Royce car in which Aqa Maula TUS will travel for waaz during Ashara Mubaraka.

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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun Oct 04, 2015 7:04 pm

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10 DAYS ASHARA MUBARAKA MENU WORLDWIDE

2nd Mohurrum

1. Namak
2. Suji Halwo
3. Ice Cream
4. Cholla Bhaji with (4 Roti)
5. Chicken with Red Gravy
6. Mung Pulav with Gosht
7. Kadhi
8. Kachumber/Ichar
9. Chaas
10. Fruits

3rd Mohurrum

1. Namak
2. Suji Pineapple Halwo
3. Paav No Halwo
4. Chicken Dabba Gosh with Egg
5. Chola Bhaji with (4 Roti)
6. Kheema Khichdi with Tomato Soup
7. Veg Salad
8. Gulab Sarbat/Chaas
9. Ichar
10. Fruits

4th Mohurrum

1. Namak
2. Suji Halwo with Kesar and Kismis
3. Ice Cream
4. Khichdo
5. Chola Bhaji with (4 Roti)
6. Butter Chicken with Manda
7. Masoor Dal Chawal
8. Salad
9. Chaas
10. Ichar
11. Fruits

5th Mohurrum

1. Namak
2. Suji Pineapple Halwo
3. Mix Fruit Custard
4. Patra Gosht
5. Chola Bhaji with (4 Roti)
6. Dal Gosht, Jira Rice
7. Kachumber
8. Chaas
9. Ichar
10. Fruits

6th Mohurrum

1. Namak
2. Suji Halwo
3. Bundi Ladwa
4. Pepper Chicken
5. Chola Bhaji with (4 Roti)
6. Malvi Gosht, Manda/Roti
7. Dal Fry, Rice
8. Bhundi Salad
9. Ichar
10. Chaas
11. Fruits

7th Mohurrum

1. Namak
2. Suji Pineapple Halwo
3. Ice Cream
4. Chikoli
5. Chola Bhaji with (4 Roti)
6. Kaari Chaawal
7. Mix Fruit Salad
8. Sharbat
9. Ichar
10. Fruits

9th Mohurrum

1. Namak
2. Suji Halwo with Kesar and Kismis
3. Malido
4. Laganya Seekh, Tomato Sliced, Egg
5. Chola Bhaji with (4 Roti)
6. Masoor Dal Chaawal
7. Chana Chaat Salad
8. Chaas
9. Ichar
10. Fruits

10th Mohurrum

1. Namak
2. Suji Pineapple Halwo
3. Ice Cream
4. Chola Bhaji with (4 Roti)
5. Manda
6. Khichdo
7. Kolu Tarkaari
8. Imli Kachumber
9. Gol nu Paani
10. Fruits

Pehla Rova jevu Muh banaavo pachhi circle banaavi ne chorus ma chhaati peeto ehna baad bhooka jaanwar na jem Ice Cream and Murgi par Tooti padho !!!...... Abde Bohra na hisaabe Imam Husain (as) ye Karbala ma aaj message aapo che.... Jaisa Raja vaisi Praja.... Aane kehvaai Gham-e-Husain !!

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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun Oct 04, 2015 7:26 pm

wats up msg

Forwarded as Received:-

Iss Moharram me sach-mooch Karbala ka maajra dikh raha hai

Mumino ko Hind-Sindh se ghasit kar Houston khicha ja raha hai

Yazid ke gurgo ko bas har jagah sirf paisa dikh raha hai

Har roz mumino ko dhamkiyo ka paigham mil raha hai

Iss baar baccho ko bhi nahi baksha ja raha hai

Aise maahol se Yazidi zamaan yaad aa raha hai

Naa karne walo par unka kehar toot raha hai

Daulat ke nashe me unhe kuch dikh nahi raha hai

Khuda ka kehar inn Yazidiyo ki raah dekh raha hai

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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun Oct 04, 2015 7:47 pm

watsup msg

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PROPAGANDA FOR MOHURRUM TAMASHA/CARNIVAL IN FULL SWING !!

American embassy ma Visa leva aaya aa mumin bhai... Ehna kapda itna juna purana ke interview wala joi ne kahe ke tamari aukat nathi laagti Houston java ni...

Bhai kahe che 30 varas si haq na dai saathe Ashara karu chu... maari umar 70 waras ni che... itna paisa nathi ke America jai saku to maari dukaan mortgage par aapi ke vaha si aavi ne dain utaari dais..... Jo tu Visa aapse to maari zindagi haji wadhi jase nahi to yaha jj mari jais... Bhai na aa kalaam suni ne officer nu dil pighli gayu ane Visa aapi didhi..

Aa mohabbat jo bija logo ne jovaay to apne em laazim che ke jo agar apne jawa ni neeyat na kidhi hoi to kam ma kam itni dua kariye har roz ke je mumineen apply kidhu che ye sagla ne Visa mili jaay...

Ane biju ke je jata hoi ehna baara ma em vichaar na kare ke aana paase kitno rupiyo bharo hase to gaya.... Nahi, aa mumin mukhlis ni misal ehva kitnaak logo che je qarzan lai ne ane ek ek rupiyo aam si aam jamaa kari ne jata hase.... Em tasawwur raakhe ke har jaanar mumin mumena ehni Labbaik ya Daillah ni nidaa itni baland hase ke ehne mola chuni lidha ane javu imkaan kari aapu..

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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by Truth-Prevails » Mon Oct 05, 2015 3:41 am

Article In Hindustan Times Oct 3rd 2015

‘Dawoodi Bohras against order to compulsorily attend Muharram sermons’
by Manoj R Nair
manoj.nair@hindustantimes.com

MUMBAI: There is resentment among Dawoodi Bohras against the order by their spiritual leader to compulsorily attend Muharram sermons later this month, said a survey.

A survey comprising 757 respondents was conducted between August 18 and September 24. The surveyors said they were a neutral group not aligned to the offices of the current head or his opponents, nor with the reformist section.

The ‘Worldwide Survey for Dawoodi Bohras 2015’ is the second annual online study to gauge opinion about community issues after the death of their last head, or Syedna, in January 2014. Mufaddal Saifuddin, the current leader, is his son, but his uncle, Qutbuddin, half-brother of the last Syedna, has disputed the succession.

The Syedna’s office dismissed the survey and said the findings did not represent the community’s views. “Muharram rituals are a vital part of our faith; there is no question of compulsion,” said the spokesperson. Muharram will start on October 12 and the 10th day marks the martyrdom of Imam Hussain, the grandson of Prophet Mohammad, during the fight for succession after his death. The events led to the schism that created the two main sects of Islam. As Shias, the Dawoodi Bohras mourn the incident. Recently, the Syedna asked his followers to compulsorily attend the sermons in their mosques on all nine days; community members were asked to declare their intention in writing or orally, which would be recorded in the e-jamaat cards they carry. The survey indicates many community members do not want attendance at the sermons to be compulsory. Only a third of the respondents (224) said they put their intent in writing, and a little less than half of these (94) said they did so because they wanted to. A little more than a fifth (49) said it was out of compulsion. A fifth (44) said they did it because they feared their identity cards might be blocked.

The Syedna’s spokesperson said the views of a few hundred people did not represent views of the one-million-strong community. “Who gave them (surveyors) the authority to conduct the study? We do not know whether the people who responded to the survey are Dawoodi Bohras,” the spokesperson said. “Anybody is free to do a survey.” However, some community members said there was resentment against the order. A resident of Fort said there was resentment against compulsory attendance even during the last Muharram. “How can they force everybody to attend? Last year, people had to leave their work, college and school to go for the sermons. I know a person who was warned at work after he remained absent from office,” said a member of the Bohra community, requesting anonymity.

http://paper.hindustantimes.com/epaper/ ... 1914-46b1-
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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by nomoneybohra » Mon Oct 05, 2015 7:54 am

NOT FORCING ANYBODY? look below and see for yourself


Baad Afzalus Salaam,


During Muharram-ul-Haraam waaz will start daily from Wednesday 2nd Muharram / 14th October at 10:00am.

Every mumin irrespective of his age, job, business or profession must attend all days of Waaz during Ashara on time from day one. School going mumin children and young adults must take leave from school. Every mumin must make arrangement to take leave from their jobs or close their office or shops or other places of business so that they are able to attend waaz on time.


It is important that all Mumineen, Mumenaat and farzando to bring their e-jamaat cards and should have it scanned before start of waaz. Those mumineen, mumenaat who do not have new cards should key in their ejamaat ids in the system provided.


Khuda t’ala Aqa Maula Syedna Aali Qader Mufaddal Saifuddin Saheb ni umr sharif ta rozay qiyamat basehato afiyat daraz kerjo. Ameen.


Vas Salam,
Anjuman-E-Burhani,

SBM
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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by SBM » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:46 am

All Kasre aali and Kothari Goons will be staying at
Omin Houston at Westside
13210 Katy Freeway Houston Tx
May be people can be mobilized to protest in front of the hotel with pictures of Lions. Elephants killed.

SBM
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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by SBM » Mon Oct 05, 2015 12:23 pm

Through Watsup from India

Current rate for Houston TX. Booking is

Nikah by the SMS $52000
By other Shehzadas $11000
Shehra $5000
Mishaq in group $7,000
Mishaq by SMS $17,000
Ziyafat in home-dinner $110,000
Ziyafat in group $11,000
Sheikh $110,000
Mulla $52,000
Kadambosy with personal Araj $5,200
Ikram fund member $5,200
Ikram fund general $2,553
Niyaj Thal $1,253
Niyaj Salam in group $553
Niyaj Zaman Salam in person $11,000

Fan moving behind Takhat

$11,000 for 7 times
$5,253 for 5 times

Kadambosy in house by SMS $52,530
By other Shehzadas $11,000
Moharram Ashura raats Ziyaft $153,000

Other custom made events Specials on time and event base

More specials are to come and announce

dawedaar
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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by dawedaar » Mon Oct 05, 2015 12:40 pm

This rate card looks more like an imagination from some reformist! These rates are ridiculous even by Kothar standards!
SBM wrote:Through Watsup from India

Current rate for Houston TX. Booking is

Nikah by the SMS $52000
By other Shehzadas $11000
Shehra $5000
Mishaq in group $7,000
Mishaq by SMS $17,000
Ziyafat in home-dinner $110,000
Ziyafat in group $11,000
Sheikh $110,000
Mulla $52,000
Kadambosy with personal Araj $5,200
Ikram fund member $5,200
Ikram fund general $2,553
Niyaj Thal $1,253
Niyaj Salam in group $553
Niyaj Zaman Salam in person $11,000

Fan moving behind Takhat

$11,000 for 7 times
$5,253 for 5 times

Kadambosy in house by SMS $52,530
By other Shehzadas $11,000
Moharram Ashura raats Ziyaft $153,000

Other custom made events Specials on time and event base

More specials are to come and announce

ghulam muhammed
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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Mon Oct 05, 2015 3:56 pm

dawedaar wrote:This rate card looks more like an imagination from some reformist! These rates are ridiculous even by Kothar standards!
SBM wrote:Through Watsup from India

Current rate for Houston TX. Booking is

Nikah by the SMS $52000
By other Shehzadas $11000
Shehra $5000
Mishaq in group $7,000
Mishaq by SMS $17,000
Ziyafat in home-dinner $110,000
Ziyafat in group $11,000
Sheikh $110,000
Mulla $52,000
Kadambosy with personal Araj $5,200
Ikram fund member $5,200
Ikram fund general $2,553
Niyaj Thal $1,253
Niyaj Salam in group $553
Niyaj Zaman Salam in person $11,000

Fan moving behind Takhat

$11,000 for 7 times
$5,253 for 5 times

Kadambosy in house by SMS $52,530
By other Shehzadas $11,000
Moharram Ashura raats Ziyaft $153,000

Other custom made events Specials on time and event base

More specials are to come and announce
Even I have received the above message and although it looks ridiculous but it is not so because I have seen abdes giving Rs.52 lacs to Rs. 1 crore for SMB's Ziyafats, Rs.52 lacs for Sheikh panu and Rs.7 lacs for Chammar khidmat (waving fan behind SMB's takht) for around a minute and it all happened almost a decade ago, so with current inflation levels the amount is actually less then what SMB charged !!

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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by Biradar » Mon Oct 05, 2015 4:01 pm

dawedaar wrote:This rate card looks more like an imagination from some reformist! These rates are ridiculous even by Kothar standards!
Don't be so sure. I know some abde family members who really did pay $100,000 (yes hundred thousand DOLLARS) to become miyasaheb. Also, it is common to ask for $25-50K to become mullah. This was when Dawedar Muffy came to LA earlier this year for opening of masjid. I would not be surprised that now the prices have gone up, and many more schemes will be cooked up to extract even more money. As I said, Dawedar Muffy's greed and lust for money is endless. Like a fire which burns hotter and bigger when it is fed more wood, his demand and greed gets bigger as he gets more and more.

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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by Ozdundee » Mon Oct 05, 2015 4:09 pm

dawedaar » Tue Oct 06, 2015 3:40 am
This rate card looks more like an imagination from some reformist! These rates are ridiculous even by Kothar standards!
What was the meaning of this remark..."imagination of some reformist "

I can appreciate and respect a declared Abde defending his conscious and loyalty and that is fair game ...but one who swing from side to side just to make remarks so one is seen to be contributing to a comment is distasteful.

What reformist need is real reformers by action ...there is a difference between reformer and one supporting reforms but then a mark difference to those seating on the fence.

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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by anajmi » Mon Oct 05, 2015 4:45 pm

Fan moving behind Takhat

$11,000 for 7 times
$5,253 for 5 times
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Is there anything the Dai does or allows for the sake of love? (Other than the love of money of course)!! So much for the "lovers" of Ahle Bayt!!

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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by dawedaar » Mon Oct 05, 2015 5:33 pm

Well, a lot of messages these days are works of fiction and imagination, that's why the comment. 110,000 for Sheikh and 52k for Mulla title looks too high to be true. Also ziyafat is 110,000 that is same as Sheikh title. Doesn't pass the test! Also, the mafia is also not stupid to keep rates such prohibitive that only a few foolish abdes sign up for. The last I heard was Ziyafat amount was fixed at $75,000 which again is not a low figure!
Ozdundee wrote:
dawedaar » Tue Oct 06, 2015 3:40 am
This rate card looks more like an imagination from some reformist! These rates are ridiculous even by Kothar standards!
What was the meaning of this remark..."imagination of some reformist "

I can appreciate and respect a declared Abde defending his conscious and loyalty and that is fair game ...but one who swing from side to side just to make remarks so one is seen to be contributing to a comment is distasteful.

What reformist need is real reformers by action ...there is a difference between reformer and one supporting reforms but then a mark difference to those seating on the fence.

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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Mon Oct 05, 2015 6:29 pm

The rate card figures posted by whatsapp are not set in stone. Some of the figures quoted are 100% accurate. However as usual there are exceptions to the rule. When Qasre Aali themselves give ziyafat - their figures are very low. They basically do whatever their egos allow. But when Hatim Tyebjee (even though he's a tycoon) from San Jose, California gave ziyafat - he didn't pay anything extra. He had already handed the Masjid keys and Muffy mafias were so terrified of Muslim Tyebjee and Hatim Tyebjee and other bigwigs in San Jose Jamaat that they were like little rabbits in San Jose where they couldn't extract any dollars nor even bothered to ask for money for iftetah. While we all know what happened in Orange County California - where they were forced to sign up for XX number of ziyafats, and USD$700K+ for Iftetah price before Muffy arrived. In San Jose they bribed Muslim Tyebjee to no man's end to jump the fence back to SMS - and began dishing out and forcing hadiyats on people who were supremely wealthy but were liberals and bigwigs in the community who had the power to sway the masses. Their mission to San Jose was not to extract money but to facilitate defection from SKQ to SMS and prevent more jumping of people to SKQ side.

Needless to say, none of their tactics worked and nobody defected - people were left more amused than ever seeing through the pathetic nature of their maneuvers. In the meanwhile even in San Jose and Fremont, the regular Abdes who were clueless were doling out $20-30k for a 2-3 minute group ziyafat. In home ziyafats were $100k+ without any add-ons like hadiyat or misaq etc.

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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Mon Oct 05, 2015 6:35 pm

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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by AgnosticIndian » Mon Oct 05, 2015 9:02 pm

dawedaar wrote:This rate card looks more like an imagination from some reformist! These rates are ridiculous even by Kothar standards!

Not at all! It looks "reasonable"

I know people in extended family who have paid 72 Lakhs in India to become sheikhs & gave 52 Lakhs for Ziafat. This was 4-5 years ago. $110,000 amounts to about that much today.

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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by Ozdundee » Tue Oct 06, 2015 2:01 am

Let me be clear I have no issues with Abde giving sms ,$1million it's their business their money

Where sms crossed the line when he demanded absolute submission threaten curses and going on and on about Moharam , disruptive and an absolute fanatic, taking out skq anger on moderates

Direct challenge and his jesters can and will relay this back to the zadas, sms back off and will back off

This is not skq we will hurt you where it hurts there is more to come watch this will spiral and you will be left with power but no respect

after FgM , hunting you don't seem to learn so I and many of us have to stop you from becoming and extreme tyrant

You have time but if you leave in your ivory tower you will be dragged in every media and will be embarrassed

Your loss will be for the picking by skq

Al-Noor
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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

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Unread post by Al-Noor » Tue Oct 06, 2015 6:33 am

ghulam muhammed wrote:watsup msg

Forwarded as Received :

Aali Waqar Shahzada Malekul Ashter BS inspecting Aqa Maula TUS Rolls Royce car in which Aqa Maula TUS will travel for waaz during Ashara Mubaraka.

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even in days of mourning this moron will not come down from rolls royce....wah bhai wah.

Abdes you really don't see anything wrong here? really?

yuzarsif
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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

#299

Unread post by yuzarsif » Tue Oct 06, 2015 7:32 am

Aao Hussain (a.s) ka Gam manaye
Jo Dar badar fira ,
Us Majlum ka Gam, Rolls royce me ghum kar manaye.
Aao Hussain (a.s) ka Gam manaye!
Jo Raha tin deeno tak Bhuka aur pyaasa,
Us Bhuke pyase Hussain ka Gam ,Chicken kha kar manaye
Aao Hussain (a.s) ka Gam manaye!
Jo Jalti dhoop aur jammen me mara,
Us bebas Hussain ka Gam, AC me baith kar manaye.
Aao Hussain (a.s) ka Gam manaye!

bohrabhai
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Re: Ashara Oppression 2015

#300

Unread post by bohrabhai » Tue Oct 06, 2015 11:41 am

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Houstan
His car n his palace
When he'll go to MOURN in ashara
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