Bohra WhatsApp Duniya -2016

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Al Zulfiqar
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Re: Bohra WhatsApp Duniya -2016

#811

Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Wed Aug 24, 2016 10:06 am

zinger wrote:
Al Z, relax. Everyone has the right to read good work irrespective of which side they are on! Your comment is most uncalled for
oh yes? then why is it that abdes are forbidden to read the nahjul balagha without raza??



Shk Mohammed Yamani
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#812

Unread post by Shk Mohammed Yamani » Thu Aug 25, 2016 8:21 am

Dawoodi Bohra agent Sh Murtaza Dahod wala AKA Ashraf Dahod, side kick employed by the Don of Daawat e Hadiya, Quid Johny AKA Qaeed Chor bs invited womaniser
Bill Clinton at Dohad walas residence boston.
He has become a biggest show off, he once was a humble person until he associated himself with the likes of Qaeed Chor and hes fake Dai Muffy Muffin.
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Al Zulfiqar
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#813

Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Thu Aug 25, 2016 10:22 am

guy_sam2005 wrote: his poetries are on various topics.......but then how would you know....
of course gay sam, how would the illiterate, ignorant and jaahil bohras of progressive thought know? its the abdes, fanatic followers of the 7th grade fail fraud, misogynistic short tempered leader who utters laanats and abuses against his opponents who have the sole monopoly on high-brow knowledge and arts, like poetry, science, astronomy, space research, roti making, ridha stitching, rove jevu moh, and other such hightec pursuits...

wah bhai wah! pata nahi kahan kahan se chaley aatey hai..



objectiveobserver53
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#814

Unread post by objectiveobserver53 » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:35 am

Shk Mohammed Yamani wrote:Dawoodi Bohra agent Sh Murtaza Dahod wala AKA Ashraf Dahod, side kick employed by the Don of Daawat e Hadiya, Quid Johny AKA Qaeed Chor bs invited womaniser
Bill Clinton at Dohad walas residence boston.
He has become a biggest show off, he once was a humble person until he associated himself with the likes of Qaeed Chor and hes fake Dai Muffy Muffin.
It was a fund raiser for Hillary. Mr. Dahod is buying political clout for his Aqa. The group raised 500,000 USD for the Clinton campaign and was rewarded with a visit from the former President.



zinger
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#815

Unread post by zinger » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:57 pm

Al Zulfiqar wrote:
zinger wrote:
Al Z, relax. Everyone has the right to read good work irrespective of which side they are on! Your comment is most uncalled for
oh yes? then why is it that abdes are forbidden to read the nahjul balagha without raza??
because my friend, then unki pol khul jaayegi :P



guy_sam2005
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#816

Unread post by guy_sam2005 » Fri Aug 26, 2016 4:31 am

Al Zulfiqar wrote:
guy_sam2005 wrote: his poetries are on various topics.......but then how would you know....
of course gay sam, how would the illiterate, ignorant and jaahil bohras of progressive thought know? its the abdes, fanatic followers of the 7th grade fail fraud, misogynistic short tempered leader who utters laanats and abuses against his opponents who have the sole monopoly on high-brow knowledge and arts, like poetry, science, astronomy, space research, roti making, ridha stitching, rove jevu moh, and other such hightec pursuits...

wah bhai wah! pata nahi kahan kahan se chaley aatey hai..
yaaaaaaaaaaawn...................................................



Al Zulfiqar
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#817

Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Fri Aug 26, 2016 8:08 am

guy_sam2005 wrote: yaaaaaaaaaaawn...................................................
gay sam, abdes like you who live under the jooti of your leader moron muffy are not allowed to yawn. you are only supposed to do maatam 24/7/365. muffy said about abdes like you: "khuda ena kapra jalawi dese, eno badho maal ne milkat ne ena jism ne jahannum ni aag ma hazaro saal lag jalawi dese".



dal-chaval-palidu
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#818

Unread post by dal-chaval-palidu » Sat Aug 27, 2016 1:28 am

Al Zulfiqar wrote:
guy_sam2005 wrote: yaaaaaaaaaaawn...................................................
gay sam, abdes like you who live under the jooti of your leader moron muffy are not allowed to yawn. you are only supposed to do maatam 24/7/365. muffy said about abdes like you: "khuda ena kapra jalawi dese, eno badho maal ne milkat ne ena jism ne jahannum ni aag ma hazaro saal lag jalawi dese".

Where was this said? Was this in Udaipur? Do you have audio or video?



ghulam muhammed
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#819

Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sat Aug 27, 2016 5:03 pm

Please click https://youtu.be/MjzuefWM7iA and watch the sermon that Mufaddal Mola reads from a book narrating a story of Prophet and his grandson Imam Husain. He says that once prophet was sitting in a mosque with his companions when an old woman carrying heavy load stopped by the mosque compound for rest. After rest, she was waiting for someone to help her putting back her load on her head.

When Prophet finished with his companions and started leaving the Mosque, the old woman requested prophet to help her put back the basket on her head. At that instance, Imam Hussain, who was of very small age, arrived and said, “Not a big deal, I would help loading the basket” and he did it with ease.

Seeing this, Prophet overcame with emotions and lifted Imam Hussain and squeezed him to his chest and started crying profusely. So much so, that his beard became wet. Imam Hussain took out his hanky and wiped prophet’s tears. Prophet cried more. I have never seen even a picture or a video of a person whose beard got wet from excessive tears. I searched Google also. Such exaggerations are in poetry and in fairytales only.

Prophet’s companions who were present asked, “Oh messenger of Allah, why are you crying?” Prophet said “The old woman, in reality was an angel; the load she was carrying in her basket was world’s pain and suffering. My son Hussein will lift this. He will lift weigh in Karbala; enemy will attack and imam will take care of his family and friends”
While Imam Hussain was wiping Prophet’s tears with his kerchief and saying, “Do not cry Grandpa” Prophet said, yes, yes, my son, you are now wiping my tears, however, when you will cry after Ali Asghar is killed, there will be no one for you to wiping your tears!

The story is dramatic and emotional but is totally flawed. There is no authentic Hadith that prophet ever cried profusely.

There are Riwayats that prophet advised his followers not cry too much over death of their loved ones.
Second, contention that prophet knew in advance that Karbala tragedy will occur and Yazid army will murder Imam Hussain is far from truth. It means, Muawiya’s rebellion against Imam Ali, poisoning of Imam Hassan, Muawiya becoming caliph, his son Yazid becoming caliph in disregard to treaty with Imam Hasan, all was written in book of Allah. If life is mere a drama why do we blame our enemies for wounds they inflict on us? Why do we blame Ayesha, and three caliphs for usurping Imam Ali’s rightful Khilafat. Why does Syedna force people to give more Wajebat? Did Allah not write in advance who will give how much Wajebat? Why does Syedna send La’nat on Khozema and his family if Allah had decided the split in advance?
Quran says, all your deeds will be judged in Qayamat. How can we get reward or punishment, if every little thing is written for us in advance and we are just actors?

Please understand that many emotional stories regarding Karbala have been imagined, without respect to actual history, by poets and then they wrote in poetry form under the so called Poetic license. However, Mufaddal Mola describing story as a true history, is nothing but phenka phenk ફેંકા ફેંક.

Asghar Vasanwala



think
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#820

Unread post by think » Sat Aug 27, 2016 5:17 pm

bare pir in the company of panama ke raja nawaz sharif. Wonder what the two of them have in common.Or should there be anything common between a political leader and a religious so called saint.



gulam_parinda
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#821

Unread post by gulam_parinda » Sun Aug 28, 2016 5:16 am

Miya sab : Bhai
Fakhera Rakam no Salaam karo..Jannatma Aala darjja malse.

Momin bhai : Salaam ma me Aapne Chowpati ane Wal keshwar Aapu chhu.banne Tamara.

Miya sab : Chowpati shu Tamara Baap nu chhe ? Ke mane Salaam ma Aapi rahya chho.?

Momin : To jannat shu Tamara Baape kharidi rakhyu chhe ke tame aena Plot amne badhane Vahenchi rahya chho..???
Miyasaab shocked
Momin Rocks



I Rizwan
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#822

Unread post by I Rizwan » Sun Aug 28, 2016 5:51 am

ghulam muhammed wrote: Asghar Vasanwala

My advice to Mr vasanwala, kindly stick with the subject of corruption and ayyashi of mufaddal and other cronies in the community, do not indulge your self with the analysis of deen and fiqh and riwayat (you hold no degree or knowledge about it), do not ever try to be little matam or tears on Imam Hussain(s).

just try and work to expose mufaddal chor on his ayyashi and how he missuses public funds.



UKMohammad
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#823

Unread post by UKMohammad » Sun Aug 28, 2016 11:01 am

Received this video via whatsapp
On the mubarak raat of Syedna Taher Saifuddin RA Milad Mubarak, watch this historic video of Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin RA and Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin TUS performing ziyarat at Raudat Tahera
But after watching it, it looks like one honours the Raudat and the other dishonours it.
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UnhappyBohra
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#824

Unread post by UnhappyBohra » Sun Aug 28, 2016 11:55 am

UKMohammad wrote:Received this video via whatsapp
On the mubarak raat of Syedna Taher Saifuddin RA Milad Mubarak, watch this historic video of Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin RA and Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin TUS performing ziyarat at Raudat Tahera
But after watching it, it looks like one honours the Raudat and the other dishonours it.
Muffo Moula has never been introduced to the virtues of Waqar and Sabar. The tamasha of the piled up gilafs was painful to watch. First in person at the Roza and then again in a video in the masjid after I returned home. Now this Bazuband natak is another version of the gilaf tamasha. Come on Muffo! Real azadars don't need these props. These props only serve your agenda of money making - ultimately.



objectiveobserver53
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#825

Unread post by objectiveobserver53 » Sun Aug 28, 2016 12:06 pm

UKMohammad wrote:Received this video via whatsapp
On the mubarak raat of Syedna Taher Saifuddin RA Milad Mubarak, watch this historic video of Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin RA and Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin TUS performing ziyarat at Raudat Tahera
But after watching it, it looks like one honours the Raudat and the other dishonours it.
:wink:



ajamali
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#826

Unread post by ajamali » Sun Aug 28, 2016 5:44 pm

Ha ha ha.....what a cheeky video. It made some Muffy fanatics uncomfortable enough to ask if this was a video made by dushmano. But I pointed out that all it had was actual footage and nothing disrespectful. I guess no one can make a giant, shaky pile of gilafs look dignified. Muffy Moula cannot look dignified tossing handful of petals high up in the air on the dodgy pile even if he tried and even his most ardent fans saw that.... So funny.



think_for_yourself
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#827

Unread post by think_for_yourself » Sun Aug 28, 2016 6:24 pm

What is the point of creating that teetering pile of gilafs? It would be funny if it was not so disrespectful. The man cannot do a simple thing such as ziyarat without making an ass of himself and bringing dishonor to his forefathers.



alam
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#828

Unread post by alam » Sun Aug 28, 2016 7:15 pm

Everytime they PAIR muffy with SMB, the Pavlovian dogs succumb to equating the two as one and the same, salivating.
So disrespectful to SMB.



objectiveobserver53
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#829

Unread post by objectiveobserver53 » Mon Aug 29, 2016 12:26 pm

4138.jpeg
MS Bhakts urging him to visit in Ashara of 4138...Could it be their sarcastic way of saying "don't bother coming to Indore..." 8) :wink:



Biradar
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#830

Unread post by Biradar » Mon Aug 29, 2016 3:24 pm

think_for_yourself wrote:What is the point of creating that teetering pile of gilafs? It would be funny if it was not so disrespectful. The man cannot do a simple thing such as ziyarat without making an ass of himself and bringing dishonor to his forefathers.
Very true. This jaahil More-la Muffy can't do even the simplest thing properly. The spectacle of the gilafs piled on top of the grave was pathetic, and this video shows the contrast between the quiet and dignified approach of SMB (RA), compared to the jaahil, junglee type motions of this so-called "da'i" of Brain Dead Abdes. I don't know what it is, but this More-La Muffy is hell bent on making himself and his followers into total undignified fools: shouting "aaaaah" on top of one's voice, green arm-bands, maatam in choreographed steps, long junglee dadhis etc. etc. etc. Truly, the devolution of Brain Dead Abdes towards cavemen is accelerating with every passing day.

Here is another video of Moron Mola doing ziyaarat. Appears he is in a race and is going round and round the qaabar just kissing it for 1/2 sec and them running to the other side. No respect, no proper dignity and no reflection whatsoever in this Moron Mola's behavior.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyeQJKhPheU



think_for_yourself
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#831

Unread post by think_for_yourself » Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:18 pm

^^^ LOL! He does have a special talent for being consistently moronic and undignified.



think_for_yourself
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#832

Unread post by think_for_yourself » Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:20 pm

objectiveobserver53 wrote:4138.jpeg

MS Bhakts urging him to visit in Ashara of 4138...Could it be their sarcastic way of saying "don't bother coming to Indore..." 8) :wink:
Indeed! Do visit us in 2700 years..... :roll:



guy_sam2005
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#833

Unread post by guy_sam2005 » Wed Aug 31, 2016 4:43 am

Al Zulfiqar wrote:
guy_sam2005 wrote: yaaaaaaaaaaawn...................................................
gay sam, abdes like you who live under the jooti of your leader moron muffy are not allowed to yawn. you are only supposed to do maatam 24/7/365. muffy said about abdes like you: "khuda ena kapra jalawi dese, eno badho maal ne milkat ne ena jism ne jahannum ni aag ma hazaro saal lag jalawi dese".
I am yawning that means you are a useless piece of shit and liar



UnhappyBohra
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#834

Unread post by UnhappyBohra » Wed Aug 31, 2016 8:05 am

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It saddens me to see these majlises. It sounds like a hospital in a city where someone distributed contaminated food...I miss SMB and the dignity of the majlis during his era. This is a mockery.



gulam_parinda
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#835

Unread post by gulam_parinda » Wed Aug 31, 2016 10:31 am

Height of shirk and biddat...
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think
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#836

Unread post by think » Wed Aug 31, 2016 4:16 pm

who's kids are these and who is sitting next to the kids?and where is this photo taken??



ghulam muhammed
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#837

Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:08 pm

Please click https://youtu.be/NMLXt-psyqg This is the video of Syedna Mufaddal embarking a plane probably in East Africa. Please note that Kothar propaganda machinery is in action. They may have hired a video journalist for recording the event. She does not even know name of Syedna Mufaddal. She can be heard asking, “What is his name?” A Bohra woman, who probable hired this journalist, says “Mufaddal Mola, Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin”

No sooner did Syedna Burhanuddin die, Mufaddal Mola scrambled for getting titles of Doctor and Chancellor. Then, I wondered, what is the use of such titles, and spending huge amount money on such lowly, worldly, useless titles, when Mufaddal Mola already has title of Dai, a close confidant of Allah Tala. However, when I saw TV news in Africa and in Pakistan, and where the news readers say “Doctor Syedna” before his name several times, I realized titles have paid dividend because laypersons and general public in Africa, in Pakistan, in India and in other places think Mufaddal Mola must have gone to a university passed MBBS or must have written some theses; they don’t know this is an honorary degree bought through greasing palms of officials in Pakistan, where corruption is rampant.

Asghar Vasanwala



seeker110
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#838

Unread post by seeker110 » Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:16 pm

Brother Gulam Parinda,

These are our children, learning life skills. Someday they will hate their lives and their parents. Making of haramkhore bhikaries.

Some mothers wish for doctor and engineer. Here, their dreams are becoming nightmares.

We reap what we sow.

Ye aasteen ke saamp bana rahey hain.



Kaka Akela
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#839

Unread post by Kaka Akela » Wed Aug 31, 2016 10:58 pm

Bro Think:

That 80 year old man is bending and doing salaam to an 8 year old kid. those kids belongs to Taha bhaisaheb Najmuddin from his first wife who is the daughter of KQ. And those 3 kids were doing the sadarat of the majlis. Our abde mind does not comprehend what we are subjected to in the name of deen.



seeker110
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#840

Unread post by seeker110 » Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:12 pm

The old man could be performing for show.

Reminds me the story of a cap seller whose caps were stolen by a troupe of monkeys. Sometimes the people in there do, act and look like a troupe of monkey. Seen those scruffy beards. They have not evolved, yet. The leader is the solid proof the Mahal family mated with.....