Bohra WhatsApp Duniya -2016

The one and only free public forum for Bohras. The focus of this forum is the reform movement, the Dawoodi Bohra faith and, of course, the corrupt priesthood. But the discussion is in no way restricted to the Bohras alone.
Dumbledore
Posts: 275
Joined: Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:30 am

Re: Bohra WhatsApp Duniya -2016

#571

Unread post by Dumbledore » Sun May 29, 2016 10:53 pm

Amdvad ma burhani society ma momino na makan khali karavta shk. Oan ali. Momino ne police marfat marel che. Beiro ni rida o fadi nakhel che. : Aa project ma moula ka khush hase to aa project ma safalta nai male ne police ne paisa khavdavi ne jhut ni buniyaad par kaam chalu karu che ahna badal mummeen ne khush kari ne kaam chalu karu hote project nu to safalta malti aa ma moula khush nathi. please aa message vaachi ne badha ne forward kare .
Amdavad ma kutbuddin shahid moula ni jagah par Mohammed burhanuddin moula ye je project taiyaar karvama aavelo moula nu farmaan hatu ke koi bhi mummen ne dukhi kari ne project taiyaar na kare to aa shaikh onali jhut ni buniyaad par police protection gne 20 , corers khavdavi aligally kaam karu che . shaikh onali ye jhut ni buniyaad par kaam karu che, ane mummen na dil dukhaavi ne kaam karu che
Attachments
IMG-20160529-WA0005.jpg
IMG-20160529-WA0006.jpg
IMG-20160529-WA0011.jpg
IMG-20160529-WA0012.jpg

yuzarsif
Posts: 157
Joined: Wed Nov 20, 2013 12:40 am

Re: Bohra WhatsApp Duniya -2016

#572

Unread post by yuzarsif » Tue May 31, 2016 12:32 am

News In Ahmedabad Mirror
Trust wants to build community Centre over our houses: Bohras
http://epaperbeta.timesofindia.com/Arti ... 2016004007

humanbeing
Posts: 2195
Joined: Sun Nov 20, 2011 2:30 am

Re: Bohra WhatsApp Duniya -2016

#573

Unread post by humanbeing » Tue May 31, 2016 3:59 am

Another grand dargah resort in making, this is will increase the revenue for kothar manifolds. ahmedabad has always been central to dargah tourist and also the influx of businessmen and NRIs. Kothar is sitting on a goldmine .. they gonna make millions with this. Unlike Galiyakot and Burhanpur resorts, Ahmedabad is a city and inflow of tourist is rich and consistent. Less promotion is required for Ahmedabad dargaahs as compared to Galiyakot and Burhanpur and other rural set ups.

Kothar has successful turned the daawat into a full fledged multi-million revenue generating monster corporation based on deception, coercion and greed.

SBUT and Now ahmedabad major displacement projects to make way for grand idol worship and related spin-offs ...

ghulam muhammed
Posts: 11653
Joined: Tue Oct 07, 2008 5:34 pm

Re: Bohra WhatsApp Duniya -2016

#574

Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Wed Jun 01, 2016 7:12 pm

In Ahmedabad, Kothar Demolished poor Bohras’ residences for building Aalishaan complex for minting money. Qutbuddin Shahid does not need Aalishan Mazar. He would rather have simple Qabar. This Kothari family wants to make it five star hotel attracting foreign and domestic rich Bohras. If they were in Power in Saudi Arabia, they would have built five star complex on Janntual Baqi, cemetery where Ma Fatema and others are buried. In Ahmedabad, they have demolished 1000s of graves, many of them very eminent people of their time for making Space for the luxury complex. This demolition of grave and disrespecting the dead has started from Syedna Taher Saifuddin who planted hunger for wealth in the family. Please know that the Government has given Qabrastan land and cremation grounds free for its citizens. It is not a donation to Syedna. Qabrastan is not Syedna’s or Dawat’s property. Alavi and Sulemani Bohras have equal right entering the graveyards in Ahmedabad. Its because Indian political system and law and order officers are corrupt, Syedna and Kothar is able to get by with their illegals actions.

Please click https://youtu.be/FcvBPnSkjoc and watch 2:50 minutes YouTube Video

Asghar Vasanwala

Dua for Momeen
Posts: 131
Joined: Sat Apr 23, 2016 11:31 am

Re: Bohra WhatsApp Duniya -2016

#575

Unread post by Dua for Momeen » Sun Jun 05, 2016 5:05 am

Cult \ˈkəlt\
noun , often attributive
: a small religious group that is not part of a larger and more accepted religion and that has beliefs regarded by many people as extreme or dangerous.

Dear Mr. Qutbuddin,

I wanted to compare your antics and the formation of your Qutbi sect to the studies done by Berkeley regarding the behavior patterns of cults. There are 19 characteristics listed that are highly comparable to the patterns of your religious cult. I was wondering if you or any of your eminent princes could comment and say why you’re Qutbi religion functions very much like a cult.

Recruitment

1. Deception – Group identity and/or true motives are not revealed. The group leaders tell members to withhold truth from outsiders.

This is very familiar to what you and your children have been doing. Qutbi Bohras are told to keep their mission secret. For instance, claiming that nass was done but no one besides the group leaders, i.e. Sakina Qutbuddin, Abdeali Qutbuddin, Taher Qutbuddin, and the others were privy to this knowledge.

2. Emotional Leverage/Love Bombing – Instant friendship, extreme helpfulness, generosity and acceptance…Group recruiters “lovingly” will not take “no” for an answer-invitations impossible to refuse without feeling guilty and/or ungrateful. “Love”, “generosity”, “encouragement” are used to lower defenses and create an ever increasing sense of obligation, debt and guilt.

Khuzaima Qutbuddin’s call for openly funding various Mumineen’s businesses and education ventures, buying them homes through Zahra Hasanaat Scheme displays generosity and extreme helpfulness. However, it has also left many Qutbi Bohras trapped. Many Qutbi Bohras do feel that the ideologies put forward by Khuzaima and his children is fantastical – however they feel a ‘sense of obligation, debt, and guilt.’ Khuzaima Qutbuddin and his children have been kind to many, and therefore, many of their followers do so because they feel indebted.

3. Exploit Personal Crisis – They use an existing crisis as a means of getting you to participate. They exploit vulnerability arising from:

Broken relationships
Death in the family
Loss of job
Move to new location
Loneliness/depression
Guilt/shame
Stress/fear
Exploiting personal crisis – The demise of Syedna Mohammad Burhanuddin RA was a crisis for everyone in the community. Everyone keeps on asking – why did Khuzaima Qutbuddin wait three years to finally say something. Or why did he think that the demise and janaza of Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin RA was the opportune time to say that nass was done on him privately with no witnesses 50 years ago. He did this because he could exploit the vulnerability from the situation and use the grief of those who held him in favor to his advantage.

4. Crisis Creation – They employ tactics designed to create or deepen confusion, fear, guilt or doubt. i.e. “you aren’t serving God the way He intended.” Questions areas of faith never before examined or explored and attack other faiths specifically.

Khuzaima Qutbuddin created a crisis around the demise of Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin RA by launching his website, FatemiDawat.com to deepen confusion and bring about shakk in Mumineen. “You aren’t serving God the way He intended” became “Tame haqq par nathi because mein Mazoon hato ane koi mane maan nota aapta.” (Most people never saw you or knew you outside of Mumbai and Bakersfield.)

5. All The Answers – Provide simple answers to the confusion they, themselves, create. Support these answers with material produced or “approved” by the group.

This is exactly what Fatemidawat.com was used for. Although most of the material on the website were cherrypicked arguments devoid of any actual context and truth, they made it look like they could provide all the answers where others couldn’t. The main reason for this was because all their evidence and ideas were unwarranted and unheard of by most people.

Programming

1. Intense Study – Focus is on group doctrine and writings. Bible, if used at all, is referred to one verse at time to “prove” group teachings.

If you hear Husain Qutbuddin’s youtube videos and his use of the Quran to justify Khuzaima Qutbuddin’s every move – even claiming that certain ayats were playing when Khuzaima went to Saifee Mahal to pay his respects to Aqa Moula’s RA janazah mubarakah – to prove his legitmacy. The sabaqs that the Qutbis are giving through youtube and other means show that a lot of attention is being given at the moment to emphasize group doctrine and indoctrinate their followers with an offshoot version of their old religious ideologies. The Qutbis have gone to extreme lengths through online channels to “prove” group teachings to their followers. Because they don’t have any institutions or physical means they are using the net to reach a global audience.

2. Opposer Warnings – Recruiters are told that “Satan” will cause relatives and friend to say bad things about the group to try to “steal them away from God.” Recruits soon believes group members, alone, are truthful/trustworthy.

The children of Khuzaima constantly warn followers not to engage in dialogues with other Dawoodi Bohras. They tell them to be nice to them and invite them in their homes but are unwilling to even try to listen to what they are saying. They reject every truth that is said to them without giving it much thought. It is just total rejection. Every piece of advice or outreach of affection to keep them as part of the community is seen as an attack on them.

3. Guilt and Fear – Group dwells on members’ “sinful nature” (many use public confession). Guilt and fear arising from “failing God” are magnified to manipulate new member.

Upsetting Khuzaima Qutbuddin by thinking his claims are unprecedented and unheard of in the history of Dawat becomes a fear held by most members. It is better to reject truth and precedence rather than think that he might be wrong for a second.

4. Schedule Control & Fatigue – Study and service become mandatory. New member becomes too busy to question. Family, friends, jobs and hobbies are squeezed out, further isolating the new member.

He kept everyone in Thane right after the demise of Moulana Mohammed Burhanuddin. No one was allowed to leave his compound to the extent that he forbade his followers to participate in funeral of Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin. Much like the cult of David Koresh in Waco, Texas (pictured above), people were trapped in the Darus Sakuna. People were not able to question. They are made too busy in spreading the Qutbi cause that they are unable to think logically.

5. Attack Independent Thought – Critical thinking is discouraged as prideful and sinful, blind acceptance encouraged.

If any Qutbi follower thought independently then they would wonder why Burhanuddin Moula was never with Khuzaima Qutbuddin in most events for the last 25 years but kept Mufaddal Moula at his side throughout. However, critical thinking has escaped them because they aren’t allowed to reason. They just use obscured and misinterpreted textual evidence to try and prove their beliefs. Everything else is a lie, be it the ‘amal of Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin and his outright actions. The hospital video is a lie. The Nass at Raudat Tahera is a lie. They mask reason with fantasy.

6. Divine Commission – Leader(s) claim new revelation from God, within past 200 years, in which all but their group are rejected by God. They, alone, speak for God.

Nass, its witnesses, Sh. Ibrahim Yamani’s diary, Moula’s nass at Cromwell Hospital and at Raudat Tahera do not mean anything. Khuzaima Qutbuddin can raise the Quran and swear that he is appointed by Imamuz zaman and Khuda and that suddenly becomes truth refuting everything else. Everything in Dawat’s history before about Nass and witnesses becomes unnecessary, devoid. Suddenly, Khuzaima, alone, speaks for God and not the years of Burhanuddin Moula’s efforts to cultivate this Dawat ni waari. All 98 % of the believers are wrong – only Khuzaima Qutbuddin is right. His life is valued over everything else, even walking in Moula’s janazah. Nass was not pronounced to save his life, but it doesn’t matter that if such an action would eliminate 98% of the followers. This is because Khuzaima is divinely commissioned.

7. Absolutism – They insist on total, unquestioning obedience and submission to the group, both actions AND thoughts. Group “love” and acceptance becomes dependent upon obedience and submission. Unconditional love…isn’t.

No room to interpret that Khuzaima Qutbuddin might have misinterpreted Moula’s words for which he thought was nass. He’s right and everyone else is wrong.

8. Totalism – “Us against them” thinking. Strengthens group identity. Everyone outside of group lumped under one label.

This is why the Qutbis have propounded the ideology regarding the followers of Rasullullah’s Dawat and Ali’s Dawat as being few. They call their new Qutbis the Ansar u Dawat and even have opened a fund in the same name. They want to show that it is ‘us against them.’ The 98%, once all brothers and eating in one thaal, are now enemies. Had their call not been a form of totalism – then they would have employed the three years of Nass on Mufaddal Moula to argue their cause.

Retention

1. Motive Questioning- When sound evidence against the group is presented, members are taught to question the motivation of the presenter. The verifiable (sound documentation) is ignored because of doubts over the unverifiable (presenter’s motives). See Opposer Warnings (#2 above).

Qutbis maintain that all of Aqa Moula’s Shehzadas and every hudood of Dawat, including Syedi Husain Bs. (former Mukasir Saheb and current Mazoon Saheb) who prepared Mumineen to do Moula’s khidmat are lying about Nass. No one is right. Everyone is making something up. All the events and material evidence is fabricated.

2. Information Control – Group controls what convert may read or hear. They discourage (forbid) contact with ex-members or anything critical of the group. May say it is the same as pornography making it not only sinful and dangerous but shameful as well. Ex-members become feared and avoidance of them becomes a “survival issue.”

Qutbis are told not to read sites like 53 Reasons and Qutbi info and just gain knowledge directly from the cult leaders like Tahera Qutbuddin and Husain Qutbuddin. Also Sabaqs are regularly given by the other children like Taher and his Insiya. They are using brainwashing techniques so that the Qutbis cannot think for themselves or on the precedence of Dawat’s bayaano.

3. Isolation, Separation & Alienation – Group becomes substitute family. Members encouraged to drop worldly (non-members) friends. May be told to change jobs, quit school, give up sports, hobbies, etc.

Khuzaima Qutbuddin has isolated his cult followers from their family members. He has caused fathers to be away from their children, husbands and wives to get divorced, grandparents to be away from their granchildren, and total rejection and separation of people who believe in Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin. He has broken families. What kind of person claiming to be a religious leader would do so.

4. Coercion – Disobedience, including even minor disagreement with group doctrine, may result in expulsion and shunning.

Qutbis are not allowed to leave their religion.

5. Phobias – The idea is planted that anyone who leaves goes into a life of depravity and sin, loses their sanity, dies, or will have children die, etc. Constant rumors of bad things happening to people who leave. No one ever leaves for “legitimate reasons.”

Qutbis can’t leave because they fear that they will go to hell and worse if they leave Khuzaima.

ADDED – Thursday Dec. 24th 10:52 PM (IST)

cult
\ˈkəlt\
noun , often attributive
: a small religious group that is not part of a larger and more accepted religion and that has beliefs regarded by many people as extreme or dangerous.

Sincerely,

Dawood b. Quresh bhaisaheb Najmi

Hyderabad

kimanumanu
Posts: 607
Joined: Wed Apr 09, 2014 2:16 pm

Re: Bohra WhatsApp Duniya -2016

#576

Unread post by kimanumanu » Sun Jun 05, 2016 9:20 am

Replace Qutbis with Mufaddalis above and Khuzeima with Mufaddal and you get the same result :D

Akhtiar Wahid
Posts: 804
Joined: Mon Mar 08, 2010 9:22 am

Re: Bohra WhatsApp Duniya -2016

#577

Unread post by Akhtiar Wahid » Sun Jun 05, 2016 12:29 pm

its like inception
cult within a cult within a cult

Dua for Momeen
Posts: 131
Joined: Sat Apr 23, 2016 11:31 am

Re: Bohra WhatsApp Duniya -2016

#578

Unread post by Dua for Momeen » Sun Jun 05, 2016 1:52 pm

Exactly this is why I posted this...new cults been created within a cult.

Dua for Momeen.

bohra_manus
Posts: 185
Joined: Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:37 pm

Re: Bohra WhatsApp Duniya -2016

#579

Unread post by bohra_manus » Sun Jun 05, 2016 3:12 pm

Dua for Momeen wrote:Cult \ˈkəlt\
noun , often attributive
: a small religious group that is not part of a larger and more accepted religion and that has beliefs regarded by many people as extreme or dangerous.

Dear Mr. Qutbuddin,
Dawood b. Quresh bhaisaheb Najmi

Hyderabad
Why is Mr. Qutbuddin singled out? Why not also ask Mr. Mufaddal Saifuddin too?

Wajid
Posts: 87
Joined: Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:52 pm

Re: Bohra WhatsApp Duniya -2016

#580

Unread post by Wajid » Sun Jun 05, 2016 4:30 pm

Dua for Momeen wrote:Exactly this is why I posted this...new cults been created within a cult.

Dua for Momeen.
Bhai DFM. Salaams,

How many followers of SKQ (ra) have you personally known in your life? I am sure not one. So please do not post any rubbish. I am alao sure that you have had no personal acquaintances with SKQ (ra). Or else , you would have not uttered such nonsense.

Please do not waste your rime in vain talks during the month of Ramadan. Spend your tI me in ibaadat, it will do you much good ...

مَّا لَهُم بِهِ مِنْ عِلْمٍ وَلَا لِآبَائِهِمْ كَبُرَتْ كَلِمَةً تَخْرُجُ مِنْ أَفْوَاهِهِمْ إِن يَقُولُونَ إِلَّا كَذِبًا
No knowledge have they of such a thing, nor had their fathers. It is a grievous thing that issues from their mouths as a saying what they say is nothing but falsehood!

FiAmanillah

alam
Posts: 712
Joined: Mon Oct 21, 2013 8:15 pm

Re: Bohra WhatsApp Duniya -2016

#581

Unread post by alam » Sun Jun 05, 2016 4:35 pm

bohra_manus wrote:
Why is Mr. Qutbuddin singled out? Why not also ask Mr. Mufaddal Saifuddin too?
Because there is a force within Mr. Saifuddin cult to undermine Mr. Qutbuddin so as to prevent people from having any hopes for the betterment of the community from Mr. Q clan.
Any signs of progress from either community can very easily be downplayed by comparing it to a cult and demonizing the extremes. Readers are urged to fact check from their personal experiences, seek out answers from their own observations - before coming to a simplistic conclusion that "both are cults and therefore both are same".

My own observation is that one of them is on a faster track to progress and change than other, and Mr Q's clan now being the oppressed, have their own personal experiences to form the basis for learning from their mistakes, missteps and the legacy they have inherited. They seem to have developed a greater ease into understanding the sufferings of other, having suffered so themselves.

ghulam muhammed
Posts: 11653
Joined: Tue Oct 07, 2008 5:34 pm

Re: Bohra WhatsApp Duniya -2016

#582

Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun Jun 05, 2016 5:40 pm

Forwarded as Received :

When Amitabh Bacchan asked a bohra lady in KBC.... "Bahenji, agar aap yaha 1 crore rupiya jeet ke jaati ho to aap in rupiyo ka kya karogi ?..... The lady took out a to-do list from her Rida pocket and said :-

"I will clear all the following list below in advance and live happily throughout my life, but conditions apply... The list is as follows :-

1) Zakat
2) Khumus
3) Wajebat
4) Kaffarat
5) Minnat
6) Najwa
7) Silat ul Iman
8) Dai ul asar najwa
9) Haqqun Nafs
10) Haj-e-badal
11) Mawasat
12) Faizul Mawaid
13) Qarz e Hasanah
14) Ramzan Niyaz
15) Iftaar Hoob
16) Muharram Niyaz
17) Dai Duat Niyaz
18) Zikra Thaal
19) Tabudaat Hoobb
20) Sabeel
21) Establishment Sabeel
22) Saify Barkat
23) Residential Sabeel
24) Maintainence Hoob
25) Nazafat
26) Eid ul Fitr Salam
27) General Misaq Salam
28) Sitaabi Raza
29) Majlis Raza
30) Every pehli raat salam
31) Every Raza Salam
32) Akiko
33) Ziyarat visit fund
34) Masjid fund
35) All Ziyarat Galla fund
36) Amil Salam
37) Amil's Bairo Salam
38) Amil's Dikra Salam
39) Amil's Dikri Salam.

Dua for Momeen
Posts: 131
Joined: Sat Apr 23, 2016 11:31 am

Re: Bohra WhatsApp Duniya -2016

#583

Unread post by Dua for Momeen » Sun Jun 05, 2016 10:52 pm

Please do not waste your rime in vain talks during the month of Ramadan. Spend your tI me in ibaadat, it will do you much good ...
Mr Wajid,

awakening people and bringing them back to ISLAM is best Ibadat and this is what I am doing. so dont worry about me.

Quran says
"Let there among you be a group that summon to all that is beneficial commands what is proper and forbids what is improper; they are the ones who will prosper." (3:104)
you are correct I dont know many Taheri follower, but those whom I know are far from Islam and they are living under their own dream world and keep thinking that they are the chosen people even when they are far from shariyat.

yuzarsif
Posts: 157
Joined: Wed Nov 20, 2013 12:40 am

Re: Bohra WhatsApp Duniya -2016

#584

Unread post by yuzarsif » Mon Jun 06, 2016 2:51 am

Bro Ghulam Mohammad
forgot to add the puch line
" And Amitabh Bacchan Behosh"

Dumbledore
Posts: 275
Joined: Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:30 am

Re: Bohra WhatsApp Duniya -2016

#585

Unread post by Dumbledore » Tue Jun 07, 2016 10:53 am

Meherbaan Sahebo,
Aa thi janaavanu ke hu Ramzan mahina na shuru thi Surat ni ( *Badri Masjid *Begumpura ni Majid, India Bakery na paachhal* ) ma Maghribe Namaz parwaa maate jaav chhu.
Param divase Jamea thi aavela Ustaad Shk. Huzefa Bhabhrawala e ehna bayaan ma em kahyu ke Mufaddal Mola toh Khuda chhe. Ane gai kaale toh em kahi didhu ke Quran Majeed parwa betho athwa koi bija waaste Bismillah Hir Rahmanir Rahim na parye ane ehna badle Mufaddal Mola nu Naam lai lo toh chaale.

As recvd on whatsapp

Al Zulfiqar
Posts: 4609
Joined: Tue Mar 28, 2006 5:01 am

Re: Bohra WhatsApp Duniya -2016

#586

Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:58 am

Dumbledore wrote:Meherbaan Sahebo,
Aa thi janaavanu ke hu Ramzan mahina na shuru thi Surat ni ( *Badri Masjid *Begumpura ni Majid, India Bakery na paachhal* ) ma Maghribe Namaz parwaa maate jaav chhu.
Param divase Jamea thi aavela Ustaad Shk. Huzefa Bhabhrawala e ehna bayaan ma em kahyu ke Mufaddal Mola toh Khuda chhe. Ane gai kaale toh em kahi didhu ke Quran Majeed parwa betho athwa koi bija waaste Bismillah Hir Rahmanir Rahim na parye ane ehna badle Mufaddal Mola nu Naam lai lo toh chaale.

As recvd on whatsapp
so whats new and surprising in this? i have proved that the dai is greater than the imam and even allah, please read my thread on this forum : "Proof that the dai is greater than Imam and Allah". viewtopic.php?f=1&t=7096 those who refuse to believe this are no longer dawoodi abde muffadal bohras. and those who continue to be jamaat members and then rebel against mufatlal being allah are hypocrites and cowards.

Dua for Momeen
Posts: 131
Joined: Sat Apr 23, 2016 11:31 am

Re: Bohra WhatsApp Duniya -2016

#587

Unread post by Dua for Momeen » Tue Jun 07, 2016 12:17 pm

Dumbledore wrote:Meherbaan Sahebo,
Aa thi janaavanu ke hu Ramzan mahina na shuru thi Surat ni ( *Badri Masjid *Begumpura ni Majid, India Bakery na paachhal* ) ma Maghribe Namaz parwaa maate jaav chhu.
Param divase Jamea thi aavela Ustaad Shk. Huzefa Bhabhrawala e ehna bayaan ma em kahyu ke Mufaddal Mola toh Khuda chhe. Ane gai kaale toh em kahi didhu ke Quran Majeed parwa betho athwa koi bija waaste Bismillah Hir Rahmanir Rahim na parye ane ehna badle Mufaddal Mola nu Naam lai lo toh chaale.

As recvd on whatsapp
I request you gather 2 witness and make a video of their confession and make it viral on social media...

Dua for Momeen.

Wajid
Posts: 87
Joined: Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:52 pm

Re: Bohra WhatsApp Duniya -2016

#588

Unread post by Wajid » Tue Jun 07, 2016 12:19 pm

Dumbledore wrote:Meherbaan Sahebo,
Aa thi janaavanu ke hu Ramzan mahina na shuru thi Surat ni ( *Badri Masjid *Begumpura ni Majid, India Bakery na paachhal* ) ma Maghribe Namaz parwaa maate jaav chhu.
Param divase Jamea thi aavela Ustaad Shk. Huzefa Bhabhrawala e ehna bayaan ma em kahyu ke Mufaddal Mola toh Khuda chhe. Ane gai kaale toh em kahi didhu ke Quran Majeed parwa betho athwa koi bija waaste Bismillah Hir Rahmanir Rahim na parye ane ehna badle Mufaddal Mola nu Naam lai lo toh chaale.

As recvd on whatsapp
Salaams,

Do you see any parallels? ...
Still people would not open their eyes !

فَكَذَّبَ وَعَصَىٰ
But (Pharaoh) rejected it and disobeyed (guidance);

ثُمَّ أَدْبَرَ يَسْعَىٰ
Further, he turned his back, striving hard (against Allah).

فَحَشَرَ فَنَادَىٰ
Then he collected (his men) and made a proclamation,

فَقَالَ أَنَا رَبُّكُمُ الْأَعْلَىٰ
Saying, "I am your Lord, Most High".

فَأَخَذَهُ اللَّهُ نَكَالَ الْآخِرَةِ وَالْأُولَىٰ
But Allah did punish him, (and made an) example of him, - in the Hereafter, as in this life.

إِنَّ فِي ذَٰلِكَ لَعِبْرَةً لِّمَن يَخْشَىٰ
Verily in this is an instructive warning for whosoever feareth (Allah).

Dua for Momeen
Posts: 131
Joined: Sat Apr 23, 2016 11:31 am

Re: Bohra WhatsApp Duniya -2016

#589

Unread post by Dua for Momeen » Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:32 pm

What are you talking about Mr Wajid?

this all extreme self glorification started long back, and Burhanuddin and Khuzaima did nothing to stop it, never banned those gulufied Madeh and other practices and now things are going over board. so start accepting mistakes and dont try to blame it all on Mufaddal saifuddin because he is just continuing legacy of stupidity which he inherited from his father and uncle.

Shk Mohammed Yamani
Posts: 193
Joined: Sat May 21, 2016 1:13 pm

Re: Bohra WhatsApp Duniya -2016

#590

Unread post by Shk Mohammed Yamani » Wed Jun 08, 2016 1:50 pm

MSB - AL MADRASA TUS SAIFIYATUL BURHANIYAH (Al Ameen Private School), has been operating in Dubai since 1985, and follows the British National Curriculum, leading up to the IGCSEs.
The school offers a supportive environment for personal growth and professional development, and has been consistently rated ‘Good’ by the Knowledge and Human Development Authority (KHDA) of Dubai.
Detailed information is available on www.msbdubai.com
Job title.. school Principal..
We are on the look-out for an inspiring and motivated Principal who can demonstrate passion for education and is committed to achieving excellence in teaching and learning, in line with the vision of our Aqa Moula TUS.
Should be a dynamic, collaborative communicator and an instructional leader devoted to working with students, staff and parents in developing educational excellence.
Applicants should have·  Post Graduate/Graduate degree holders with B. Ed.,·5 to 10 years teaching experience and 10 years leadership experience·         
Knowledge of National Curriculum (UK) / IGCSE (Cambridge) 
Please email us on jobs@msbdubai.com with the following documents..CV with recent colour photograph, Cover Letter, Educational and Experience Certificates copy, Passport copy, Names & addresses of 2 professional references (direct educational line managers)
All applications will be treated under strict confidence. 
Board of Governors, MSB - Dubai

======================================
The job was given to a Hindu lady but due to non payment of salary for more than 6 months, she left, returned back to India, so now this job is advertised on ITS, looking for a bohra lady who would do FREE MOULAS KHIDMAT as principal without pay.
Any amte interested? ??

Al Zulfiqar
Posts: 4609
Joined: Tue Mar 28, 2006 5:01 am

Re: Bohra WhatsApp Duniya -2016

#591

Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Wed Jun 08, 2016 2:11 pm

Shk Mohammed Yamani wrote:job is advertised on ITS, looking for a bohra lady who would do FREE MOULAS KHIDMAT as principal without pay.
Any amte interested? ??
there is an amte interested. she is presently working with qatar airways as an air hostess. the big samosa knows her personally and instead of her doing free khidmat, he will do khidmat for her. i can supply her details directly to saifee palace. akbar al baqer, the ceo of qatar airways is a buddy of mine.

ghulam muhammed
Posts: 11653
Joined: Tue Oct 07, 2008 5:34 pm

Re: Bohra WhatsApp Duniya -2016

#592

Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Wed Jun 08, 2016 5:35 pm

Forwarded as Received :-

Kothar has started 3 schemes of Qard e Hasanah :

1) Saifee... In this scheme in multiplication of Rs.215 is to be given and is non refundable.
2) Burhani.... In this scheme on every friday you have to drop an amount you wish in the Jholla. This is also non refundable.
3) Husseini... In this scheme you give Qarden Hasanah for a specific period and on due date it is refundable.

Now first point : If the amount is non refundable then how can it be called "Qarz" ? Qarz is suppose to be refundable, so it should be called "Donation".

Second point : Is it a coincidence that both the names associated to non refundable are "Saifee" and "Burhani" and the one which is refundable is called "Husseini" ??

SBM
Posts: 6243
Joined: Sun May 09, 2004 4:01 am

Re: Bohra WhatsApp Duniya -2016

#593

Unread post by SBM » Wed Jun 08, 2016 5:54 pm

Second point : Is it a coincidence that both the names associated to non refundable are "Saifee" and "Burhani" and the one which is refundable is called "Husseini" ??
Because both Saifee and Burhani are the BLACK HOLES and anything you put in never comes out. (it sounds worse then what I mean :lol: )

Kaka Akela
Posts: 389
Joined: Wed Apr 27, 2005 4:01 am

Re: Bohra WhatsApp Duniya -2016

#594

Unread post by Kaka Akela » Wed Jun 08, 2016 6:46 pm

Bro Ghulam Muhammed: You forgot the fourth non-refundable scheme, "Mohammedi" which is also related to saifee mahal black hole.

Al Zulfiqar
Posts: 4609
Joined: Tue Mar 28, 2006 5:01 am

Re: Bohra WhatsApp Duniya -2016

#595

Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Wed Jun 08, 2016 7:21 pm

in fact, indian astronomers recently made a most astonishing discovery. as the indian geostat 3 space satellite which is stationed over the western coast observed, there was a certain spot located just around malabar hill which they could neither photograph nor did their highly sensitive spectrometers penetrate. on coordinating with the ground metereological agencies and even the coast guard and finally the mumbai police, it was found that this precise spot was the saifee palace. whereas the building itself seems to be susceptible to xrays and scans, it was finally determined that this mysterious impenetrable to light effect was the result of the huge numbers of stinking black holes resident inside the vast edifice. combined they exert a tremendous physical pull on all objects, esp. money, jewels, gifts, najwas and salaams etc which get swallowed inside the bottomless pit, never to be seen again.

further intense examinations are being carried out, but these black holes have been designated as qasre aali and baite zainy. scientists, scholars, scientists are investigating. more updates will be provided as soon as they are available..

Dua for Momeen
Posts: 131
Joined: Sat Apr 23, 2016 11:31 am

Re: Bohra WhatsApp Duniya -2016

#596

Unread post by Dua for Momeen » Thu Jun 09, 2016 2:30 am

Second point : Is it a coincidence that both the names associated to non refundable are "Saifee" and "Burhani" and the one which is refundable is called "Husseini" ??
:lol: :lol: :lol:

saifi and burhani is just incoming there is no out going associated with it.

actually I liked the idea of crowd funding to bring positive out comes in community, but ufsos aa loko ni niyyat acchi nathi, so out come is also bakwaas.

humanbeing
Posts: 2195
Joined: Sun Nov 20, 2011 2:30 am

Re: Bohra WhatsApp Duniya -2016

#597

Unread post by humanbeing » Thu Jun 09, 2016 4:03 am

Al Zulfiqar wrote:Indian astronomers recently made a most astonishing discovery.
For a moment I thought they discovered a star constellation depicting face of SMB or STS. Well it makes an interesting fairytale like the ones for Dragons. Duats become Stars of the constellation after they die. Going forward, Astronomy branch of Kothari Inc can draw up a constellation in SKY and assign duats in them. Most shining star would be SMB. Furthermore abdes can be advised to bow and pray to stars and various mojizaas and theories can be floated. Such as; SMB watching his beloved farzando from up there all the time. A lost abde in the desert was guided by a shining star. Etc etc. Kothar can be more creative. That would be interesting.

Shk Mohammed Yamani
Posts: 193
Joined: Sat May 21, 2016 1:13 pm

Re: Bohra WhatsApp Duniya -2016

#598

Unread post by Shk Mohammed Yamani » Thu Jun 09, 2016 6:50 am

It is well known that stars change their nature as they age till they die , among the endpoints of stars is the black hole .  God says in the Holy Quran what means"And call not, besides God, on another god. there is no god but He. Everything (that exists) will perish except His own Face. to Him belongs the Command, and to Him will ye (All do Him will ye (all) be brought back. "( Al-Kasas :88)
SBM wrote:
Second point : Is it a coincidence that both the names associated to non refundable are "Saifee" and "Burhani" and the one which is refundable is called "Husseini" ??
Because both Saifee and Burhani are the BLACK HOLES and anything you put in never comes out. (it sounds worse then what I mean :lol: )

Talking of the black hole. ..theres a zikar in quran regarding black hole,
kothar will soon link the above aayaat with saify mahal black holes.

godmoney
Posts: 132
Joined: Sat Jul 06, 2013 4:51 pm

Re: Bohra WhatsApp Duniya -2016

#599

Unread post by godmoney » Thu Jun 09, 2016 1:54 pm

Forward as received.. This post is put by huzaifa electric on facebook too.

*MUMBAI NEWS*
Sad News!Sad News!
*Sbut key Kuch Kharaab Log is Ramazan mey Kharaab Maahol Banana Chaatey Hey.*
*Meherbani karkey appeal hey aap sab sey kaanoon haath mey naaa leynaa aur aisey logo ko sabak sikhaana*
Jaisey ki Rastey ko bandh karana Bohra Dargah ki taraf jo hey taaki Ramazan mey logo ko takleef di jaa sakey aur Saifee Jubilee Street Sunni Dargah Achanak Renovation key naam par Controversy aur Zainabiya Imambada mey 19 Ramazan ko Juloos mey Rukaawat...
Is sab ki planning mey ek baat gaur karney wali hey ki kisi mazhab kaaa aisaa insaan nahi Jisney Apana imaan naa bechaa ho Aisi Jaankaari hey mey saarey Maslak key log fitnati hotey hey.....
Jaankari key mutaabik is meeting mey jo 3td June ko hui ye saari controversial Planning decide hui Gupt Kareebi sutro ki Jaankaari Anusaar...
Planning mastermind *Khabees Naapaak*
*Bohra Maulana Shaikh* *Mustafa Kanchwala*
(Bhendi Bazaar Project ) Aur Saathi Dalal *Abbas Master* aur Sahyogi
*Topi nd Associates ( Dusrey Log).( Bohra Setter*
Agar is Paak Mahiney mey kuch bhi Anhonee hoti hey Bohra_Sunni_Shia_Police Clash iskey zimmedaar ye log Pehley hogey aur Samajnaa hogaa...
Kisi bekasur aawaz uthaney waley ko Fasaaya jaata hey toh usaki taftish karkey usaka saath deyna hoga..
*Muslim Yuva Manach* aisey logo key khilaaf jo Aapas mey dangaa karaatey hey jo kisibhi Maslak kaum key ho Mukhaaleyfat karati hey aur aawaaz uthaati raheygi.
*Huzaifa Electricwala* aur puri team dost asbaab ansaar sab log aisey jo koi jAati waadi Dangey karney ki koshish kareygey unkey khilaaf hum khadey raheygey aur logo sey aisey wakt mey Sahanu Bhuti chaalaki dikhana chaahiye....Muslim Yuva Manch ki Teamki gujaarish karati hey Aman Shaanti Banaye rakhey aur aisey logo ko sabak sikhaye shanti sey....
sabhi dharm key liye
Bohra . Sunni. Shia .Wahabi . aisey log dimak hey jo islam ko badnam aur is paak mahiney mey apani aukaat bata rahey hey...
*kindly is msg ko fwd karey public interest mey aur Appeal karey Shanti ki aur koi bhi Pukhta Jankaari miley Danga bhadkaaneyki yaa Kaumi Fasaad failaaneyki Police ko zarur ittalaa dey yaa humey Call karey...*
Duaa ki Guzaarish...
*Wassalaaam:*
*Huzaifa Electricwala*
*President*
*Muslim Yuva Manch*

ajamali
Posts: 412
Joined: Mon Oct 26, 2015 11:51 am

Re: Bohra WhatsApp Duniya -2016

#600

Unread post by ajamali » Fri Jun 10, 2016 12:55 am

SMS and Dawoodi Bohras mentioned in British House of Lords
IMG_1703.mp4
(13.66 MiB) Downloaded 3942 times