Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics) - 2016
Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 9:42 am
Bismillah Al rahman Al rahim,
Salaam
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Salaam
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Fatema ben Ebrahim, wife of Mulla Hatim bhai Ebrahim, passed away in London on Wednesday night 30th of December 2015, (lailat al-khamis, 21st Rabi ul Awwal). Shehzada Dr. Abdeali bhaisaheb lead janaza namaz on Thursday evening. Fatema ben was buried in the Dawoodi Bohra Qabrastan, Najmi Bagh, Brookwood Cemetery in London. The Fatemi Dawat Janaza Committee of London ensured that the janaza ghusl kafan and dafan was performed with dignity and correctly per the rites of our Fatemi mazhab, and that the family of the deceased were cared for at every step of the way. All of this is only made possible by the guidance, raza and doa mubarak of our Aqa Mola Syedna Khuzaima Qutbuddin TUS. May Allah ta’ala grant Fatema ben rehmat and Jannat, and shafaat of our Mawali Tahereen, especially the 51st, 52nd, and 53rd Dais.
Al-Noor wrote:I wonder how mufaddalis allowed this? any one knows more information? if this is allowed in London why it cant be allowed in rest of the world?
Fatema ben Ebrahim, wife of Mulla Hatim bhai Ebrahim, passed away in London on Wednesday night 30th of December 2015, (lailat al-khamis, 21st Rabi ul Awwal). Shehzada Dr. Abdeali bhaisaheb lead janaza namaz on Thursday evening. Fatema ben was buried in the Dawoodi Bohra Qabrastan, Najmi Bagh, Brookwood Cemetery in London. The Fatemi Dawat Janaza Committee of London ensured that the janaza ghusl kafan and dafan was performed with dignity and correctly per the rites of our Fatemi mazhab, and that the family of the deceased were cared for at every step of the way. All of this is only made possible by the guidance, raza and doa mubarak of our Aqa Mola Syedna Khuzaima Qutbuddin TUS. May Allah ta’ala grant Fatema ben rehmat and Jannat, and shafaat of our Mawali Tahereen, especially the 51st, 52nd, and 53rd Dais.
All mumineen who have deceased after Misaq to Qutbuddin Moula TUS in Mumbai have been buried in Bohra qabrastans. That is not to say that being buried in a Bohra qabrastan is a big deal. Here in the US, mumineen (both Mufaddalies and SKQ followers)are buried in the same qabrastan as Shias, Sunnis and sometimes even Christians and Jews. They are beautiful burial parks and lovely to visit. I think people in India place too much stock on being buried in Bohra qabrastan. Have never understood it.dawedaar wrote:The answer is in your question itself! Because it is London, a major city in the developed world! If you expect this to happen in India, Africa, Middle East (Developed only due to its oil money) or Pakistan, then forget it!
Al-Noor wrote:I wonder how mufaddalis allowed this? any one knows more information? if this is allowed in London why it cant be allowed in rest of the world?
Bro/Sis think,think_for_yourself wrote:All mumineen who have deceased after Misaq to Qutbuddin Moula TUS in Mumbai have been buried in Bohra qabrastans. That is not to say that being buried in a Bohra qabrastan is a big deal. Here in the US, mumineen (both Mufaddalies and SKQ followers)are buried in the same qabrastan as Shias, Sunnis and sometimes even Christians and Jews. They are beautiful burial parks and lovely to visit. I think people in India place too much stock on being buried in Bohra qabrastan. Have never understood it.dawedaar wrote:The answer is in your question itself! Because it is London, a major city in the developed world! If you expect this to happen in India, Africa, Middle East (Developed only due to its oil money) or Pakistan, then forget it!
How do you mean? Miqats are being observed, madrasah is conducted. Sijil is being published.... Hulchul as usual...Dumbledore wrote:another question to you...seems you are SKQ follower....from last few months there is no "hulchul" activity from KQ side...what could be the reason...kindly throw some light.
What about the court case? It has gone all quiet on the High court website as well with no date displayed for next hearing.think_for_yourself wrote: How do you mean? Miqats are being observed, madrasah is conducted. Sijil is being published.... Hulchul as usual...
I believe this is due to high court issues of courtroom availability and presiding judges.kimanumanu wrote:What about the court case? It has gone all quiet on the High court website as well with no date displayed for next hearing.think_for_yourself wrote: How do you mean? Miqats are being observed, madrasah is conducted. Sijil is being published.... Hulchul as usual...
Oh my God! He had surgery some time ago that has affected his speech. There is nothing "unintelligent" about his speech. It is a disability. In the wasilas and bayans posted on Fatemi Dawat from days before his surgery, his voice is powerful and his words are intelligent and poignant. His words are still the same. Many of us have become used to his speech and don't even notice it any more.Ateka wrote:I just happened to stumble upon one of qutbis's speech and believe me I was dumbfounded. The speech sounded to me totally vague and blurry . I believe he suffers from dyspraxia (oral-motor speech disorder) and before he begins any sentence there a sharp unintelligent sound. Honestly I am amazed at the fact that this was never mentioned in any posts what so ever.
Do you think this could be the reason he was not considered ( by Kothar) as a prominent candidate in place of muffy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTkp2_RLJUM&sns=em
Just to clarify, my intention here is not to malign anyone so please do not start moaning about this. Just trying to get to grips with ..
Wajid wrote:Salam o Alaikum,
This is my first post here : hope to write more InshaAllah
How many of bohra's know that Musa (AS) had similar problems of speech. Yet he was destined to stand against the might of Firaoun. The Quran attests to this fact : Surah Taha ...
اذْهَبْ إِلَىٰ فِرْعَوْنَ إِنَّهُ طَغَىٰ
"Go thou to Pharaoh, for he has indeed transgressed all bounds."
قَالَ رَبِّ اشْرَحْ لِي صَدْرِي
(Moses) said: "O my Lord! expand me my breast;
وَيَسِّرْ لِي أَمْرِي
"Ease my task for me;
وَاحْلُلْ عُقْدَةً مِّن لِّسَانِي
"And remove the impediment from my speech,
يَفْقَهُوا قَوْلِي
"So they may understand what I say:
Do you find any parallels to the current situation of Dawoodi Bohras. Musa AS started his mission with a handful of people with him ... Does the situation need any more elaboration ...
Allah o Akbar
You keep strumming the same guitar with your incessant reference to "dawat texts". Yet you completely ignore the fact that Syedna Burhanuddin RA during his lifetime took the name of his Mazoon in the misaq text and affirmed his position each time. Today you are denying this text for which you must have said "naam" and spewing laanats on him. Did Syedna Burhanuddin RA also fool people?Saif53 wrote: There is a famous saying:
"Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me".
SMS and his team continue to make a mockery of their followers.
Ignorance in haqq cannot be excused anymore.
No one is ignoring that fact.You keep strumming the same guitar with your incessant reference to "dawat texts". Yet you completely ignore the fact that Syedna Burhanuddin RA during his lifetime took the name of his Mazoon in the misaq text and affirmed his position each time. Today you are denying this text for which you must have said "naam"
well yes he did and there is no doubt in it.Syedna Burhanuddin RA also fool people?
Exactly and this is why now dai bull crap should be replaced by elected representative of community who can be changed every 5 year.ajamali wrote:
The rest of us don't give a crap about either Mufaddal or Qutbi. We are happy with the masjid, mawaid and manij. So not sure why you've been getting your undies in a bunch over all this. You have begun to sound downright desperate