Khozema Qutbuddin is no more?

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Re: Khozema Qutbuddin is no more?

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Unread post by Sabar » Mon Apr 11, 2016 4:06 pm

Dumbledore wrote:
SBM wrote:Murtaza bs bin Ibrahim bs
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4CwrY ... cslist_api
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The monster holding Murtaza bs is slime ball shk Fukruddin Tarmal. He use to own a dingy worthless hardware shop in the uk, outside of the bohra community he was nothing but acted like a mob boss of London bohras. His been involved in everything from Faiz e husseini scams to drug running for qasrialis. Long story short in the year 2000 he was caught smuggling 4 huge bags filled with prescription drugs including viagra into Cairo (a scam going on for years), he then attempted (probably instructed from higher up), but unsuccessfully tried to place the blame on SKQ. Cairo officials were paid off, but innocent bohras caught up in this scam took matters up with QJ, but unbeknown to them QJs dirty fingers were taking a cut as well. Tarmal was told to keep a low profile in london until MS started coming up, his recently been given a $1million "karzan" to relocate to Africa (Tanzania). This man has also spent time in jail for the attacks on Ali Asghar Engineer in london. He is the Western version of Badri Lacewala without the fancy cars or helicopters.

It seems his back in london and in the forefront of everything.

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Re: Khozema Qutbuddin is no more?

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Unread post by objectiveobserver53 » Mon Apr 11, 2016 4:12 pm

UnhappyBohra wrote: The kids look like a bunch of spoiled brats who are being taught how food gets on the table. A couple of hours of pruning branches has not killed anyone :)
If more people in Saifee Mahal took this approach to parenting, the leadership of this community would have a lot more respect for the people's wealth. Even though I don't have a farm, I make sure that my son helps me in the yard. It does him a lot of good. I have great hope for SKQ followers if this is the approach of their leadership towards parenting. Well Done STF!!

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Re: Khozema Qutbuddin is no more?

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Unread post by james » Mon Apr 11, 2016 4:15 pm

UnhappyBohra wrote:

As a matter of fact I requested and just received! So yes. I have seen videos. The kids look like a bunch of spoiled brats who are being taught how food gets on the table. A couple of hours of pruning branches has not killed anyone :)

I know that the fruits of labor and patience are always sweet :) How is it sour cherries when I point out that you teach your kids to mock someone's disability and teach them to call their mother names?



Don't try the dishonest way with me. Just pruning branches? I am sure you heard the word "pesticide" in the audio.

The kids who you are labeling as "spoiled brats" were kidnapped and taken far far away from the Janaza Mubarak of Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin RA.They were mentally harassed,given stale food,heard the threat of their Grandfather getting shot by Taher Qutbuddin,saw picture frames of their beloved 52nd Dai RA's removed,saw the tasbeeh and clothes (gifts) thrown away,got slapped by the Qutbuddin clan,got hit on their backs,got thrown on the wall,got physically assaulted by Arwa,got bored out of the wits/mentally tortured listening to mindless drivel by Husain Qutbuddin and Bazat Saifiyah.

Having children yourself,asking you to empathize with these children who have clearly been tortured was too much to ask for I reckon.I am truly disgusted with you and if you condone the above then I genuinely think your children should be fearing for their safety.They are living with a monster and your home needs a visit from Social Services. :cry:

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Unread post by SBM » Mon Apr 11, 2016 4:27 pm

^
And James was personally a witness to all of these. Right... :evil: :twisted:

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Re: Khozema Qutbuddin is no more?

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Unread post by kimanumanu » Mon Apr 11, 2016 4:34 pm

I fully agree these poor kids deserve the parenting they are now receiving in the thanda saya of their beloved moula. They will grow into respectful and loving adults who will work hard to earn a lawful earning all with dua mubarak of their moula. They will also earn jannat at the feet of their ruhani maa now that they have done baraat of their "dawedaar ni dikri" biological mothers. Truly it is a fateh mubeen unparalleled in the annals of dawat.

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Re: Khozema Qutbuddin is no more?

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Unread post by UnhappyBohra » Mon Apr 11, 2016 4:34 pm

james wrote:
UnhappyBohra wrote:

As a matter of fact I requested and just received! So yes. I have seen videos. The kids look like a bunch of spoiled brats who are being taught how food gets on the table. A couple of hours of pruning branches has not killed anyone :)

I know that the fruits of labor and patience are always sweet :) How is it sour cherries when I point out that you teach your kids to mock someone's disability and teach them to call their mother names?



Don't try the dishonest way with me. Just pruning branches? I am sure you heard the word "pesticide" in the audio.

The kids who you are labeling as "spoiled brats" were kidnapped and taken far far away from the Janaza Mubarak of Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin RA.They were mentally harassed,given stale food,heard the threat of their Grandfather getting shot by Taher Qutbuddin,saw picture frames of their beloved 52nd Dai RA's removed,saw the tasbeeh and clothes (gifts) thrown away,got slapped by the Qutbuddin clan,got hit on their backs,got thrown on the wall,got physically assaulted by Arwa,got bored out of the wits/mentally tortured listening to mindless drivel by Husain Qutbuddin and Bazat Saifiyah.

Having children yourself,asking you to empathize with these children who have clearly been tortured was too much to ask for I reckon.I am truly disgusted with you and if you condone the above then I genuinely think your children should be fearing for their safety.They are living with a monster and your home needs a visit from Social Services. :cry:
All I saw was a bunch of kids pruning branches and complaining a lot. It was probably not worth Taher bs's time to take them there but I am sure he was trying to teach the kids something. His own kids were there as well. I have promised not to share the video otherwise I would have loved to. There was no pesticide in sight. I am sure that was an insertion by QE to stir up some sympathy.

Secondly, for a kid who gets served fresh food every day, one day old leftovers may seem "stale." We call them "leftovers" and we do shukur and eat what is served in the thaal or at the table. My wife is a housewife but a busy mom and I think it is perfectly OK to cook two meals at once and eat a day later. She is a great cook and if we supplement it with a salad, it makes a great meal.

I betcha Barack Obama, Elon Musk and Steve Jobs all ate leftovers a few times a week and they have done just fine! Better than eating freshly prepared horrid thaali food every day!

Anywhich way you look at this, Qaid Johar bs has not done this kid any favors by pulling him back into the lap of luxury!

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Re: Khozema Qutbuddin is no more?

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Unread post by ajamali » Mon Apr 11, 2016 4:43 pm

UnhappyBohra wrote:
Secondly, for a kid who gets served fresh food every day, one day old leftovers may seem "stale." We call them "leftovers" and we do shukur and eat what is served in the thaal or at the table. My wife is a housewife but a busy mom and I think it is perfectly OK to cook two meals at once and eat a day later. She is a great cook and if we supplement it with a salad, it makes a great meal.

I betcha Barack Obama, Elon Musk and Steve Jobs all ate leftovers a few times a week and they have done just fine! Better than eating freshly prepared horrid thaali food every day!

Anywhich way you look at this, Qaid Johar bs has not done this kid any favors by pulling him back into the lap of luxury!
Concur!! James, eating leftovers is a fact of life in America. I see that not only have you guys not heard of freezers, you have not heard of refrigerators either!!

I would eat refrigerated home cooked food any day over the sorry mush that passes for thaali food on some days. And yes I cooked well before Mufaddal Mola made a big deal about men cooking. My wife is a good cook also. So whipping up a tarkari at home is not an issue for us. We buy our roti, The thaali food goes straight in the garbage on most days. We only take it because the bhaisab gets upset if we don't.

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Re: Khozema Qutbuddin is no more?

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Unread post by kimanumanu » Mon Apr 11, 2016 4:54 pm

The spoilt, depressed, brat also mocked people who wear old clothes. So he was mocking his own moula's fostership scheme where they are asking people to donate their used clothes.

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Re: Khozema Qutbuddin is no more?

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Unread post by Wajid » Mon Apr 11, 2016 5:00 pm

james wrote:
kimanumanu wrote:They might as well change the community name to Dawoodi Hindu or Dawoodi Pagan.
The Christians should change theirs too.I'm sure you are not aware Judas's effigy is burnt every year.

American flags are usually burnt by Muslims of various countries.Pakistani Muslims recently burnt effigies of their national team cricketers to mark their protest and disgust at the abysmal showing in a recently concluded cricket tournament.

So get over your pagan and hindu chip on the shoulder. This is 2016,new way of lodging protest. :D
Salaams,

Alhamdolillah James bhai,

Kia baat hai :)
I envy your foresight and reason. So let the Christians burn the effigies of Islamic figures and the Islamic texts, and let the Muslims do the vice versa. Let the Jews supersede both of them since they preceded both. Ofcourse the hindus were much than all of the above. So they should burn all others.

AllahuAkbar. What wonderful logic !

Islam, as I know is a religion of compassion. And Rasool Allah is Rehmat ul Alameen. Your dai MS is Reh-mat ul Alameen. Tamari Rehmat ni gaadi is in essence REH MAT for any who disagree with him.
لَكُمْ دِينُكُمْ وَلِيَ دِينِ (109:6)

You are preparing a good generation in 2016 to respond to the challenges in this 21st century. Keep it up...

Fi AmanIllah

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Re: Khozema Qutbuddin is no more?

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Unread post by Wajid » Mon Apr 11, 2016 5:10 pm

kimanumanu wrote: ... mocked people who wear old clothes...
Salaams,
In fact, in an attempt to mock Sayedna Taher (TUS), the QJ clan has made a mockery of themselves. Living in austerity, wearing modest clothes, not wasting food, working to earn your livelihood, are all considered virtuous. Especially if you believe in Maulana Ali (SA), you will find these qualities.

So, STF is in essence, putting the stepping stone towards the character building of his kids and the people who get acquaintance with him. He himself works in the fields to earn his own living. Ofcourse, the Qasr Mawali will not understand as it involves sweating to earn your bread.

Fi AmanIllah

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Re: Khozema Qutbuddin is no more?

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Unread post by kimanumanu » Mon Apr 11, 2016 8:31 pm

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By Aditya Anand, Mumbai Mirror | Apr 12, 2016, 02.00 AM IST

Complaint to DGCA says the chopper flew too low, sparking panic on the ground.

The two factions of the Bohras will not stop sniping at each other, not even in the death of the head of one the warring groups.

The Directorate General of Civil Aviation (DGCA) has opened an inquiry after residents of Bhendi Bazaar, predominantly followers of recently crowned Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin, objected to the body of his rival claimant to the crown Khuzaima Qutbuddin being flown over the Raudat Tahera, the mausoleum of the 51st Dai-I-Mutlaq Syedna Tahir Saifuddin.

The body of Khuzaima Qutbuddin, who passed away on March 31 in California after a cardiac arrest, had to be flown over Raudat Tahera because his family feared the followers of ruling dispensation would not allow them to enter the shrine on Mohammed Ali road.

Ever since the passing away of the 52nd Dai Syendna Mohammad Burhanuddin, the faction led by his son, the incumbent Dai Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin, has barred the family and followers of Khuzaima Qutbuddin from entering Raudat Tahera.

Just hours after Syendna Mohammad Burhanuddin passed away on January 17, 2014, Khuzaima Qutbuddin left the family's palace in south Mumbai with his sons and daughters and their children. He later filed a suit at the Bombay High Court, staking his claim to status of the 53rd Dai.

Residents of Bhendi Bazaar have complained that the chopper carrying Khuzaima Qutbuddin's body flew too low and circled Raudat Tahera seven times, sparking panic on the ground. The letter written to the DGCA says the chopper made dangerous manoeuvres as it circled over the densely populated area.

A spokesman from Khuzaima Qutbuddin's side, however, said all permissions the chopper to fly over Raudat Tahera were in place. "It is not possible to carry out an operation like this without necessary permission. All our paperwork was in place," he said.

Confirming that a complaint has been received, DGCA chief M Sathiyavathy said it is being "looked into by the regional office". Officials said the DGCA would call for flight details from the helicopter's operator and the Juhu Air Traffic Control on Tuesday to see there was any merit in the complaint.

The last time, Khuzaima Qutbuddin's sons Aziz and Abdeali Hussain tried entering the Raudat Tahera on July 4, 2014, six months after the 52nd Syedna's demise, the two factions almost came to blows. Both sides later lodged complaints at the JJ police station.

During his deposition in the Bombay High Court in the succession suit, Khuzaima Qutbuddin had said that he was deeply saddened that he was not being allowed to enter his father's tomb.

The last statement released by Khuzaima's family had said: "In his last journey Syedna Qutbuddin's Janaza Mubaraka was taken by Syedna Taher Fakhruddin by helicopter to Raudat Tahera where he performed his last ziyarat (paying respects) circling around Raudat Tahera seven (7) times by aircraft. Syedna Qutbuddin had been prevented in the last two years from performing ziyarat at Raudat Tahera since the sad passing away of His Holiness the Late Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin RA. It was Syedna Qutbuddin's deepest wish to perform the ziyarats of his father Syedna Taher Saifuddin RA and brother Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin RA, and it was fulfilled as he always wanted it, with peace and dignity."

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Re: Khozema Qutbuddin is no more?

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Unread post by ajamali » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:47 pm

One SKQ follower just messaged me that they are quite weirded out by obsession of the Mufaddalies with them and their Moula. Apparently they receive multiple emails and whatsapp messages a day abusing SKQ in the vilest of language. He also said that he felt befuddled by the effigy burning. He said he cannot recognise any more his brothers who were tabiyeen of Burhanuddin Moula at one time. He further went on to describe that in contrast, they never mention the MS side when they get together as a community :D So they don't understand the obsession of the MS side with them.....

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Unread post by ajamali » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:56 pm

I think that [DELETED] Murtuza is going to regret this day when he grows up, if he has any conscience left. It was the day he let his grandfather force him to refer to his mother in a cheap way. It was the day he mocked austerity, disability and hard work. It was the day he lied and exagerrated. I hope the kid has some conscience left and he apologises to his mother before it is too late.

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Re: Khozema Qutbuddin is no more?

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Unread post by Crater Lake » Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:14 pm

Seriously? Burning effigies? Yaaawwwnnnnn!

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Unread post by Crater Lake » Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:18 pm

The speech by the [DELETED] Murtuza is too crass for my brain to process. Skip.

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Re: Khozema Qutbuddin is no more?

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Unread post by Maqbool » Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:51 pm

Teaching his grandson hatred towards his mother and grandfather and burning effigy of his uncle and mazoon for 50 years, Quidjohar has become insane.
Because he's considered as a saint among some gullible, it's really dangerous for the society. He must be provided assistance of a best psychiatrist for the benefit of his believers.

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Re: Khozema Qutbuddin is no more?

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Unread post by maddy » Mon Apr 11, 2016 11:47 pm

Can anyone confirm this ??
Rcvd in msg


Exactly gai kaale aam banu

Dawedar na janaza ne saturday sanje municipalty ye naa kai didu ke ehna ghare dafan nai thai sake. Kem ke ye area thane no posh area che ane waha na aas paas na logo ye em kahyu ke hame yaha religious gathering naa khilaf che. Ye logo ye em kahyu hatu ke hamara 25 hazar si ziyada manwa wala che ane yaha ziyarat waste awse. Aaj waat par aas paas na bunglow wala ye objection uthayo ke aa area ma itna logo aawse to security ane value kharab thase. Sunday morning dvd na chokra ye em decide kidu ke shia na qabrasran lai jayye. Waha janazo lai gaya to ye logo ye naa paari didi ke hamare molvi sab bahar hai is liye hum bina ijazat dafan nahi karne denge. 3 kalak body wahaj rahi. Sunday howa na sabab municipalty bhi band hatu. Wokhard ni koshish ane paisa na zor na sabab officer na ghare jai ne reality em kidi ke faqat 150 si max 200 janaj aawse. Ane aas paas na bunglow wala ne bhi saathe lida. Likhan ma commit kidu. Finally 2 waje janaza ne shia na qabrastan si lawi ne bunglow ma dafan kida.

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Re: Khozema Qutbuddin is no more?

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Unread post by zinger » Tue Apr 12, 2016 12:16 am

james wrote:
kimanumanu wrote:Again a sincere request to Admin to moderate this thread. There are very meaningful posts about the shameful happenings in London that are getting drowned under these foolish posts.
Aminullah and iamacooolguy and Ghanu_Bhaari are one and the same person.
dont know about cool guy and bhaari but aminullah is the resident virus in avtaar number 47

if you are right about cool guy, then its "incredible" how he manages to talk to himself

____________

hey resident virus, are the voices in your head talking to you again? have you been forgetting to take your pills again?

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Re: Khozema Qutbuddin is no more?

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Unread post by Sabar » Tue Apr 12, 2016 12:54 am

james wrote:
UnhappyBohra wrote:

I am truly disgusted with you and if you condone the above then I genuinely think your children should be fearing for their safety.They are living with a monster and your home needs a visit from Social Services. :cry:
I wonder what Social Services will have to say allowing a child to witness the burning of an effigy of his grandfather on the day he was buried! how mentally sick must a man be to allow a child to celebrate and bad mouth his family on such a day. How has QJ even been allowed to care for a child, after messing his own up so much, one is officially insane (Mecca incident) another an over weight recluse, 3rd needing anger management therapy. Also what will QJ teach this child:
1) Education??…No need, he will be taught how to get fools who kiss his feet to pay for a degree from a third-rate university (over 200k GBP was paid by london jamaat for QJ’s doctorate).
2) How to make friends with low life gondas.
3) The art of scamming - how to scam a gullible community out of millions through various “schemes" (and then hide it in offshore accounts).
4) The science of lies
5) The philosophy of radicalization - how to entice hatred and spread evil.

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Re: Khozema Qutbuddin is no more?

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Unread post by humanbeing » Tue Apr 12, 2016 1:34 am

wow ! SKQ and SMS are providing religious entertainment like never before. SMB era is fading away with much more speed then expected. What is muffy maula upto, he is creating this hate-filled brigade. His daur will be known as hate era.

What a bad ass, ayyash, insensitive, vengeful, sadistic maula he is ! well destiny has always worked in mysterious ways. these kothari pest broke many families and relationships, made sons throw laanats on father etc. now the same fate is happening to thier own family.

Muffy maula and his followers should also abuse STS for marrying SKQ's mother and bringing SKQ to life. STS raised a son like SKQ and SMB raised a son like SMS. what a crappy upbringing and what a circus kothar is ! ...

the show must go on ... ! waiting for next act !

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Unread post by alivasan » Tue Apr 12, 2016 2:03 am

All are spolied rot haramkhors...i have never kissed anyones(SMB, Hussain bs, muffy) hands and knees in my 40 years of life and will never ever in future also...i have lot of respect for simple approach of SKQ towards life and was lucky to get his blessings when he used to visit RT every friday on regular basis for many years..he used to listen to araz of small group of mumineen(frightened by smb/sms goons) very carefully which i cherish till day.

Muffy will meet the end like his arrogant father in law YN..murdered and no trace of existence..

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Re: Khozema Qutbuddin is no more?

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Unread post by Dumbledore » Tue Apr 12, 2016 2:44 am

humanbeing wrote:wow ! SKQ and SMS are providing religious entertainment like never before. SMB era is fading away with much more speed then expected. What is muffy maula upto, he is creating this hate-filled brigade. His daur will be known as hate era.

What a bad ass, ayyash, insensitive, vengeful, sadistic maula he is ! well destiny has always worked in mysterious ways. these kothari pest broke many families and relationships, made sons throw laanats on father etc. now the same fate is happening to thier own family.

Muffy maula and his followers should also abuse STS for marrying SKQ's mother and bringing SKQ to life. STS raised a son like SKQ and SMB raised a son like SMS. what a crappy upbringing and what a circus kothar is ! ...

the show must go on ... ! waiting for next act !
Very well said HB bhai...they made sons to say lanat on their parents...they are reaping what they had sown. When Shekih Ahmed ali raj died they did same as they are doing for SKQ ... brain dead they are...

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Unread post by zinger » Tue Apr 12, 2016 3:17 am

bohrabhai wrote:
VID-20160411-WA0018.mp4
London tamasha
is this shit crap happening on the masjid property?
Maybe not in the masjid, but in the sehn perhaps?

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Unread post by zinger » Tue Apr 12, 2016 3:19 am

SBM wrote:Murtaza bs bin Ibrahim bs ( a young kid next generation spewing venom)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4CwrY ... cslist_api
Can you share this differently?
im getting the error below when im trying to listen to it


"Sorry, you can't view or download this file at this time. Too many users have viewed or downloaded this file recently. Please try accessing the file again later. If the file you are trying to access is particularly large or is shared with many people, it may take up to 24 hours to be able to view or download the file. If you still can't access a file after 24 hours, contact your domain administrator."

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Re: Khozema Qutbuddin is no more?

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Unread post by think_for_yourself » Tue Apr 12, 2016 5:13 am

zinger wrote:
bohrabhai wrote:
VID-20160411-WA0018.mp4
London tamasha
is this shit crap happening on the masjid property?
Maybe not in the masjid, but in the sehn perhaps?
It's happening on masjid grounds

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Re: Khozema Qutbuddin is no more?

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Unread post by think_for_yourself » Tue Apr 12, 2016 5:19 am

maddy wrote:Can anyone confirm this ??
Rcvd in msg


Exactly gai kaale aam banu

Dawedar na janaza ne saturday sanje municipalty ye naa kai didu ke ehna ghare dafan nai thai sake. Kem ke ye area thane no posh area che ane waha na aas paas na logo ye em kahyu ke hame yaha religious gathering naa khilaf che. Ye logo ye em kahyu hatu ke hamara 25 hazar si ziyada manwa wala che ane yaha ziyarat waste awse. Aaj waat par aas paas na bunglow wala ye objection uthayo ke aa area ma itna logo aawse to security ane value kharab thase. Sunday morning dvd na chokra ye em decide kidu ke shia na qabrasran lai jayye. Waha janazo lai gaya to ye logo ye naa paari didi ke hamare molvi sab bahar hai is liye hum bina ijazat dafan nahi karne denge. 3 kalak body wahaj rahi. Sunday howa na sabab municipalty bhi band hatu. Wokhard ni koshish ane paisa na zor na sabab officer na ghare jai ne reality em kidi ke faqat 150 si max 200 janaj aawse. Ane aas paas na bunglow wala ne bhi saathe lida. Likhan ma commit kidu. Finally 2 waje janaza ne shia na qabrastan si lawi ne bunglow ma dafan kida.
They are making things up - as always.

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Unread post by kimanumanu » Tue Apr 12, 2016 5:58 am

zinger wrote:
SBM wrote:Murtaza bs bin Ibrahim bs ( a young kid next generation spewing venom)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4CwrY ... cslist_api
Can you share this differently?
im getting the error below when im trying to listen to it


"Sorry, you can't view or download this file at this time. Too many users have viewed or downloaded this file recently. Please try accessing the file again later. If the file you are trying to access is particularly large or is shared with many people, it may take up to 24 hours to be able to view or download the file. If you still can't access a file after 24 hours, contact your domain administrator."
Murtaza.mp4
(6.49 MiB) Downloaded 1395 times

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Re: Khozema Qutbuddin is no more?

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Unread post by Crater Lake » Tue Apr 12, 2016 8:25 am

This is like the lost janaaza story. Or the story of the cook who saw the Chehra Mubarak. These people live in a fact free zone 8)
think_for_yourself wrote:
maddy wrote:Can anyone confirm this ??
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Exactly gai kaale aam banu

Dawedar na janaza ne saturday sanje municipalty ye naa kai didu ke ehna ghare dafan nai thai sake. Kem ke ye area thane no posh area che ane waha na aas paas na logo ye em kahyu ke hame yaha religious gathering naa khilaf che. Ye logo ye em kahyu hatu ke hamara 25 hazar si ziyada manwa wala che ane yaha ziyarat waste awse. Aaj waat par aas paas na bunglow wala ye objection uthayo ke aa area ma itna logo aawse to security ane value kharab thase. Sunday morning dvd na chokra ye em decide kidu ke shia na qabrasran lai jayye. Waha janazo lai gaya to ye logo ye naa paari didi ke hamare molvi sab bahar hai is liye hum bina ijazat dafan nahi karne denge. 3 kalak body wahaj rahi. Sunday howa na sabab municipalty bhi band hatu. Wokhard ni koshish ane paisa na zor na sabab officer na ghare jai ne reality em kidi ke faqat 150 si max 200 janaj aawse. Ane aas paas na bunglow wala ne bhi saathe lida. Likhan ma commit kidu. Finally 2 waje janaza ne shia na qabrastan si lawi ne bunglow ma dafan kida.
They are making things up - as always.

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Re: Khozema Qutbuddin is no more?

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Unread post by james » Tue Apr 12, 2016 6:17 pm

UnhappyBohra wrote:

All I saw was a bunch of kids pruning branches and complaining a lot. It was probably not worth Taher bs's time to take them there but I am sure he was trying to teach the kids something. His own kids were there as well. I have promised not to share the video otherwise I would have loved to. There was no pesticide in sight. I am sure that was an insertion by QE to stir up some sympathy.

Secondly, for a kid who gets served fresh food every day, one day old leftovers may seem "stale." We call them "leftovers" and we do shukur and eat what is served in the thaal or at the table. My wife is a housewife but a busy mom and I think it is perfectly OK to cook two meals at once and eat a day later. She is a great cook and if we supplement it with a salad, it makes a great meal.

I betcha Barack Obama, Elon Musk and Steve Jobs all ate leftovers a few times a week and they have done just fine! Better than eating freshly prepared horrid thaali food every day!

Anywhich way you look at this, Qaid Johar bs has not done this kid any favors by pulling him back into the lap of luxury!
I'm not surprised to see all the Qutbi trolls working in tandem missing the forest for the trees in order to takes us off a very serious topic.

Here we have UnhappyBohra discussing an alleged video of the kids complaining on the farm sent to him by the Qutbuddin clan.He claims he didn't see a pesticide in sight. Can he for the record state that he has seen the video of the entire time the kids were on the farm? Why would UnhappyBohra ask for such a video in the first place? And for what reason has he promised not to share the video?

UnhappyBohra,

You will not be let off easy.You dissected just two words of my post "Stale food" and completely ignored the more pressing matter of mental and physical beating and torture. Do you condone beating of children? Do you condone removal of picture frame of Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin RA? Do you condone the mental anguish a child suffers on hearing the threat of his paternal grandfather getting shot by Taher Qutbuddin? Do you condone the physical beating Murtaza bs suffered at the hands of Arwa?

Same questions go for ajamali as well who has the nerve to extol virtues of stale food and rant about Faiz Mawaid Burhaniyah Thali instead of condemning a beating of an innocent child.

ajamali on topic of freezers,do you know what goes in there other than food items? Cadavers! Did you know this? :mrgreen:

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Re: Khozema Qutbuddin is no more?

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Unread post by james » Tue Apr 12, 2016 6:36 pm

Wajid wrote:

Salaams,

Alhamdolillah James bhai,

Kia baat hai :)
I envy your foresight and reason. So let the Christians burn the effigies of Islamic figures and the Islamic texts, and let the Muslims do the vice versa. Let the Jews supersede both of them since they preceded both. Ofcourse the hindus were much than all of the above. So they should burn all others.

AllahuAkbar. What wonderful logic !

Islam, as I know is a religion of compassion. And Rasool Allah is Rehmat ul Alameen. Your dai MS is Reh-mat ul Alameen. Tamari Rehmat ni gaadi is in essence REH MAT for any who disagree with him.
لَكُمْ دِينُكُمْ وَلِيَ دِينِ (109:6)

You are preparing a good generation in 2016 to respond to the challenges in this 21st century. Keep it up...

Fi AmanIllah
Wajid,

When questions get too hot for you,standard cherry picked responses like "Why bother" are dished out by you and here you are discussing matters.What is it to be?

As per Taher Qutbuddin, Islam ni man'a em che ke sallim...Sawal pucho..Puchi Sakai che (Paraphrasing from his youtube video) Your admonishment of someone who is asking valid questions is clearly at odds with Taher Qutbuddin's youtube video.

Strangely in the same video,he says behuda logo ni waaton na suno and haq na saheb ni waat suno. And then he beseeches the people who consider his talk as one of a behuda person to be courageous and listen to him. What is it to be? Confusion Confusion.

Reminds me of a certain incident happening with Khuzaima Qutbuddin during his cross examination on topic of al wahad al ahab.Do you know of this incident?

Also, have you read Syedi Sadik Ali Saheb's nasihat " Duniya ma che riwaaz ke gar koi bashar mare,Ehna je hoi mohib te nipat gam ma tarfare,Hargiz Kafan Dafan na siwa dhyan nahi dhare,Aa Ummato si thaye na koi ummato kare,Nasraniyo Yahudi bhi ewu kare nahi..." (On topic of Christians and Jews) :wink: