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Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:51 am
by HJK
Moiz_Dhaanu wrote: Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:57 am
HJK wrote: Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:37 am
it is not always necessary to remove a person from somewhere or to condemn something only openly. if you did not see something does not means it has not happened. Also badri bhai is still very much where he was.
It is certain that DMBS will one day Die.
After Death, lets assume DMBS gets an audience with Aqa Imam Husain(AS)
Aqa Husain will ask DMBS , as to what kind of dawat was he preaching that allowed a person(Lacewala) to pass such derogatory comments in a majlis which was meant to remember him and his sacrifices...
I wonder what DMBS would answer to that

Sau baat ki ek baat … Jo aadmi Imam Husain ki izzat ucchalne par chup raha, wo kya Dai Banne ke layak ho sakta hai?

No matter what his kotharis think of DMBS , but after the Lacewala incident , i have heard murmurs amongst common ppl in the community that Muffy is not Dai material.

Sad state of affairs for a once flourishing community....
what else can one expect from someone who does not even understand the meaning of infallibility of Imam and of Imam's decision of Nass , and in fact in court says that Nass can be changed.

DMBS : Dr of Licking and Pooping (alias Dawedaar Mufaddal Bhai Saheb)
Hurr a s himself stopped Imam Husain s horse. you see what happens when somebody asks for maafi, it doesnt have to happen in front of everybody necessarily. anyways the problem is when kq committed a grave sin in 1409 and kept saying that he has done nothing. anyways dhanu u r not even worth replying to.

Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:28 am
by momeenbhai
both so called dai are flying first class plans 24 7
both holds millions of worth property in US and world wide
both acts like they care poor but their life style is no where to that point
both are busy making money
both keeps their own family protected with green cards and other nationality brought with community money
both comes from same family who abused their power
both have no contact with reality of world
both are selling jannah while they themself dont know if they will enter jannah


list is long. follow who ever you like but keep your brain and mind alive.

Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:17 pm
by Moiz_Dhaanu
HJK wrote: Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:51 am
Hurr a s himself stopped Imam Husain s horse. you see what happens when somebody asks for maafi, it doesnt have to happen in front of everybody necessarily. anyways the problem is when kq committed a grave sin in 1409 and kept saying that he has done nothing. anyways dhanu u r not even worth replying to.
Have you gone Friggin insane to compare Lacewala with Hur (AS) and your "No Good" DMBS with Imam Husain(AS)? shame on You.

For the benefit of other readers let's get this straight about the folly about your above statement

Hur(AS) was not a follower of Imam Husain when he stopped his horse...his digression can be considered a faux pas, which by the grace of Allah , he quickly realised and did repentance.
Lacewala on the other hand is (I guess) is under oath of allegiance to DMBS and hence very well knows what Imam Husain stands for? , and probably very well knew what he was saying(but he still said it).


Hur (AS) was under the orders given to him to do what he did. It is also told in the history books that his orders were to only arrest Imam Husain and bring him to Court , but as soon he realized that Imam Husain was going to be made a Shaheed, he knew Yazid was wrong.
Lacewala , on the other hand, (I am pretty sure) wrote the speech under trhe guidance of the Bewaqoof(Husain son of DMBS)

It is quite well known to all in the community that each marsiya and each speech given in the public in any majlis by any shekh/mulla is first filtered through the higher echelon Bhaisaheb and/or Jamiya ustaads.

So dont fool us all here in believing that DMBS gave Maafi to that scoundrel
In fact DMBS is equally at fault to have given raza to such a blasphemous speech in a majlis which was supposed to remember his sacrifice..

احمق 'Ehmak' master and his Ehmak follower (Lacewala)
HJK wrote: Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:51 am anyways dhanu u r not even worth replying to.
Oh and BTW , Since you and your colleagues suffer from Verbal diarrhea (similar to your Master), i assume you(or your kin) will reply back :wink:


DMBS: [DELETED] (alias Dawedaar Mufaddal Bhai Saheb)

Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:08 am
by allbird
Thank you for your supposedly replies, both statements started with, "With what we heard" and i guess it means from 3rd party but not 1st hand information. Can anyone from inside SKQ / SFT camp provide first hand information ? We would like to know the truth. Was QJ kicked out or members for Kother went with message and denied entry ? or what really happened ? we are hearing all information as rumors but not the facts first hand. i also heard when members or chamchas of QJ went there they asking SKQ to come and join dawaat, they were told Dawaat is here in Thane with SKQ and give misaq, inviting SMS to join, so they ran away.

Expectation were after farman from SMS , SKQ will come running and Hug SMS and take his Mazzon position back and stay like a pooddle of SMS rest his life. Arguement ended with who will give misaq to whom.

Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:11 pm
by kseeker
not a big fan of the STF movement.. but this is a pretty decent waaz... much better than what SMS will ever do.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-96bYKhSucU

Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:54 am
by momeenbhai
kseeker wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:11 pm not a big fan of the STF movement.. but this is a pretty decent waaz... much better than what SMS will ever do.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-96bYKhSucU
Burhanuddin was a great waez orator but we all know how he was all about money in last 30 years of his life, he charged money money money for every thing, infact he was taking multiple zyafat in the same time and charging money to all at the same time.

orating talking is not a sign of any thing, ACTING on words is important.

Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:07 am
by momeenbhai
Litmus test for any Islamic leader is to see how is his life style....

No Islamic leader will ever opt for a luxury life style and that is stamped by Rasulullah and Imam Ali.

Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:27 am
by kseeker
momeenbhai wrote: Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:54 am
kseeker wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:11 pm not a big fan of the STF movement.. but this is a pretty decent waaz... much better than what SMS will ever do.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-96bYKhSucU
Burhanuddin was a great waez orator but we all know how he was all about money in last 30 years of his life, he charged money money money for every thing, infact he was taking multiple zyafat in the same time and charging money to all at the same time.

orating talking is not a sign of any thing, ACTING on words is important.
I was not referring to his oration skills. I was talking about content. Not many talk about theology and Quran tafseer like this.
Like I said , not a big fan of him.. but a much 'better' option than the other one.

Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:37 pm
by HJK
kseeker wrote: Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:27 am
momeenbhai wrote: Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:54 am

Burhanuddin was a great waez orator but we all know how he was all about money in last 30 years of his life, he charged money money money for every thing, infact he was taking multiple zyafat in the same time and charging money to all at the same time.

orating talking is not a sign of any thing, ACTING on words is important.
I was not referring to his oration skills. I was talking about content. Not many talk about theology and Quran tafseer like this.
Like I said , not a big fan of him.. but a much 'better' option than the other one.
It is amazing to see how fools like you publicize tb one way or the other, and then say i am dont eat shit but like to smell shit, ( tb in person)
just as tb need to give ads on places so he can garner views and later boast about his hidden unknown followers..lol

Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:28 am
by kseeker
HJK wrote: Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:37 pm
kseeker wrote: Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:27 am

I was not referring to his oration skills. I was talking about content. Not many talk about theology and Quran tafseer like this.
Like I said , not a big fan of him.. but a much 'better' option than the other one.
It is amazing to see how fools like you publicize tb one way or the other, and then say i am dont eat shit but like to smell shit, ( tb in person)
just as tb need to give ads on places so he can garner views and later boast about his hidden unknown followers..lol
My belief is that we entered Dau-e-Fatarat with the death of the 46th Dai. Anyone who came afterwards is just a Nazim - they are not the true Dai - the true Dai is sitting behind the scene as well. The two imposters we have left today are STF and SMS... STF is the better imposter.. SMS is simply hopeless and the leader of the brain-dead.

Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:11 pm
by momeenbhai
I like aziz bhai sahab waez, he dont use any fake accents and I like his way of talks in the direct and normal way.

Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:19 pm
by momeenbhai
I like mufaddal saifuddin waez as well, but there is a huge divergence in his kathni and karni which is a big no no in Islam, so I dont take him seriously.

TB seriously need to change his waez style.

Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:02 pm
by ajamali
momeenbhai wrote: Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:19 pm I like mufaddal saifuddin waez as well, but there is a huge divergence in his kathni and karni which is a big no no in Islam, so I dont take him seriously.

TB seriously need to change his waez style.
Hahahaha. Your opinion is worth less than the dirt on my shoes.

Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:03 pm
by ajamali
momeenbhai wrote: Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:19 pm I like mufaddal saifuddin waez as well, but there is a huge divergence in his kathni and karni which is a big no no in Islam, so I dont take him seriously.

TB seriously need to change his waez style.
Hahahaha. Your opinion is worth less than the dirt on my shoes. Aziz Bhaisaheb and Moulana are both amazing.

Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:53 pm
by UnhappyBohra
ajamali wrote: Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:03 pm
momeenbhai wrote: Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:19 pm I like mufaddal saifuddin waez as well, but there is a huge divergence in his kathni and karni which is a big no no in Islam, so I dont take him seriously.

TB seriously need to change his waez style.
Hahahaha. Your opinion is worth less than the dirt on my shoes. Aziz Bhaisaheb and Moulana are both amazing.
I agree with you on both counts. Muminboy $h1Ts where he eats. He has no credibility. And yes STF and Aziz bhaisaheb have more substance in one waaz than MS can cover in a lifetime. We are blessed to have access to their waaz via youtube. They make MS sound like a kindergartner.

Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:15 am
by momeenbhai
ajamali wrote: Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:02 pm
momeenbhai wrote: Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:19 pm I like mufaddal saifuddin waez as well, but there is a huge divergence in his kathni and karni which is a big no no in Islam, so I dont take him seriously.

TB seriously need to change his waez style.
Hahahaha. Your opinion is worth less than the dirt on my shoes.
Hajamali you are a dirt of my toilet rug so you dont exist.

as far as I am a concern I am individual and respected human in eyes of my Allah because I respect his book and his messenger, and I do keep my own good and bad opinion which makes me a true HUMAN.

unlike you who bow down to criminals and cant have any option but to just say YES to his master like a CHAINED DOG. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:27 am
by momeenbhai
Btw to make my point clear just check taher previous videos before he got his dai shit and check his videos now.
he is trying hard to sound serious or may be just trying to copy burhanuddin accents or way of talk.
not sure what is he trying to prove with his fake accents.

unless some atma has entered in him and his voice is changed :lol:


Only Parmatma knows best. Mashallah

Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:09 pm
by Wajid
momeenbhai wrote: Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:27 am Btw to make my point clear ...
Salaams to all.

Ajamali bhai, before entering discussions with this so called «  momeenbhai », please reflect upon ...

وَعِبَادُ الرَّحْمَٰنِ الَّذِينَ يَمْشُونَ عَلَى الْأَرْضِ هَوْنًا وَإِذَا خَاطَبَهُمُ الْجَاهِلُونَ قَالُوا سَلَامًا
(Al Furqan, 63)
And the servants of (Allah) Most Gracious are those who walk on the earth in humility, and when the ignorant address them, they say, "Peace!";

Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:16 pm
by guy_sam2005
UnhappyBohra wrote: Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:53 pm
ajamali wrote: Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:03 pm

Hahahaha. Your opinion is worth less than the dirt on my shoes. Aziz Bhaisaheb and Moulana are both amazing.
I agree with you on both counts. Muminboy $h1Ts where he eats. He has no credibility. And yes STF and Aziz bhaisaheb have more substance in one waaz than MS can cover in a lifetime. We are blessed to have access to their waaz via youtube. They make MS sound like a kindergartner.
Did anyone say there was a competetion of whos better who is not.You have ikhtiyaar of who you wanna listen.Besides who made u judge

Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:17 pm
by guy_sam2005
UnhappyBohra wrote: Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:53 pm
ajamali wrote: Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:03 pm

Hahahaha. Your opinion is worth less than the dirt on my shoes. Aziz Bhaisaheb and Moulana are both amazing.
I agree with you on both counts. Muminboy $h1Ts where he eats. He has no credibility. And yes STF and Aziz bhaisaheb have more substance in one waaz than MS can cover in a lifetime. We are blessed to have access to their waaz via youtube. They make MS sound like a kindergartner.
Did anyone say there was a competetion of whos better who is not.You have ikhtiyaar of who you wanna listen.Besides who made u judge

Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:41 am
by momeenbhai
very interesting video.

Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:27 am
by kseeker
momeenbhai wrote: Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:41 am very interesting video.
sorry i missed the point.. what is interesting in this video?

Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2018 8:22 am
by allbird
Was STF waez viewed for FREE, the reason i am asking is every time SMS Waez was relayed we were asked to get Najawa Sukar with Fakhir Rakam + Namzrul Makam + Silatual Imam. Every Waez relay we had to carry covers !! Ridiculous

I was wondering if same was applicable in opposite camp ?

Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2018 8:40 pm
by objectiveobserver53
allbird wrote: Sun Sep 23, 2018 8:22 am Was STF waez viewed for FREE, the reason i am asking is every time SMS Waez was relayed we were asked to get Najawa Sukar with Fakhir Rakam + Namzrul Makam + Silatual Imam. Every Waez relay we had to carry covers !! Ridiculous

I was wondering if same was applicable in opposite camp ?
Are you joking?!

Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics

Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2018 6:31 am
by allbird
No joking bhai, if i am wrong them Allah SAW forgive me. I confirmed with some Masjids in Mumbai and they had same replies +- Silatiul Imam or Nazrul Makam. But Sukar Nujwa + Qarzan hasana or Taheri Scheme were common factors.

Some one else on this forum can confirm please .

Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:39 am
by Saif53
From the Qutbi Bohra Blog
The Qutbi Bohra 1440H sermons (Part 1 & 2)
http://qutbibohras.blogspot.com/2018/09 ... t-1-2.html

Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:43 am
by Moiz_Dhaanu
Saif53 wrote: Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:39 am From the Qutbi Bohra Blog
The Qutbi Bohra 1440H sermons (Part 1 & 2)
http://qutbibohras.blogspot.com/2018/09 ... t-1-2.html
It seems you got your pending salary payment :wink: , and you are back to posting ..

I must tell there were so many grammatical and spelling mistakes in those writeups...it gave me a sense that somebody was writing in a lot of hurry.
Anyways , after reading the material on your link...One thing immediately came to my mind(which I think even all the forum readers should know)

Hon High Courts Judge Shri Gautam Patel was so flummoxed in one of the sessions with the amount of "around the bush" content brought forth by the DMBS lawyers, that he mentioned some thing like
"team of lawyers of defendant were trying their best to keep their client away from the court by putting forth large amount of unnecessary texts in the proceedings"
Client here is DMBS

On the same note, this blogpost of your's , is exactly doing that... ek baat bhi mudde ki nahin hai
if you guys are so confidant , why did DMBS and team plot to buy the judge?

DMBS: Dawedaar Mufaddal Bhai Saheb (Dr. of P&L)

Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 6:47 pm
by Bohra spring
I recieved some documents, cannot share specifics, that FD has significant cash and funds how it is controlled via trusts in the USA and recieve and generate quite substantial revenues.

Why is it always about money in our community.

The transparency is not that clear.

Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:23 am
by momeenbhai
fixed

Re: Taher Fakhrudin and related topics

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:05 am
by ajamali
Windbags on this forum who have not contributed a penny to dawat, have not sacrificed an ounce in a stand for the truth, who love to call Dai of Imam uz zaman all kinds of names, who love to attend a fraudster’s gathering for free kababs and entertainment, just love to count other people’s money!