Bohra ramzan 2016 and related topics

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Bohra ramzan 2016 and related topics

#1

Unread post by bohrabhai » Mon May 30, 2016 8:13 am

Forwarded as received
Bushra !!!
Aqa moula has granted sharaf of Ramadan and will arrive *Hasanfeer saheb* on Friday 28th shabaan
all sidhpur muttawateen should come to hasanfeer saheb with niyat of ashara mubaraka 1438 and get the barakat of Roza, namaz, ziyarat ,deedar, khidmat, vajebaat and all sharaf

Mubarak to all mumineen


Muffaddal mola is back from shikari trip. I think Bushra Bushra should be replaced by hosiyaar hosiyaar.



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#2

Unread post by think » Mon May 30, 2016 9:29 am

Reflecting on the humble living of Allah's messengers, his greed for ayashi and wealth collection gives a different story about him.May be he is somewhat a modern day A.B.



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#3

Unread post by Aymelek » Thu Jun 02, 2016 2:25 am

Now parking spaces in masjid up for Sale in Ramzan

As per message received:

"Salaam Jameel,
To avoid traffic congestion & have more parking facility jamaat has made arrangement for parking facility in the new basement parking area. Those who want to avail this facility shall contact jamaat office and give lawazimat."


This is from Sharjah masjid which is under-construction. Masjid is being built by everyones contributed fund however parking of cars for those who pay.

There is also a rumour that there will be increase in Sabil charges per family & establishment.

People of sharjah may raise a complaint against sale of masjid parking spaces and forceful collection of Sabil with Sharjah Awaqaf General Trust Board and Sharjah Municipality

http://awqafshj.gov.ae/en/contactus.aspx



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#4

Unread post by humanbeing » Thu Jun 02, 2016 2:44 am

When these kothari cheap thugs can tax masalla space for praying ... parking charges are nothing to thier conscience. ramazan is arriving and people are shivering with demands and humiliation that will follow.

In Kuwait, young boys stand on the markaz gate like bouncers to scan access cards, intimidating people who have not paid and obtained cards. it is so sickening.. and these young teenagers dont realize that this is wrong. In stead they feel proud disciplining people and assuming they are offering a khidmat.

Also the perception of khidmat is now towards khushi of muffy maula rather than commoners. so they will do whatever that makes muffy maula happy which could be serving people to cornering them. These khidmatguzaars are dummed down, brainwashhed that they cannot differentiate what is khidmat and what is coercion / intimidation.



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#5

Unread post by bohrabhai » Thu Jun 02, 2016 7:08 am

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#6

Unread post by Dua for Momeen » Thu Jun 02, 2016 12:19 pm

if we go by Islamic ethics ramazan is suppose to be FREE month for poor, they can come and eat and not to worry about payments.

in bohra world it is opposite.

Dua for Momeen.



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#7

Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Jun 02, 2016 6:37 pm

Forwarded as Received :-

Before Ramzan starts everyone in Bohra community knows that they will be shelling out a lot of cash and will receive bags full of BARKAT from these corporate beggars who beg for money under various devious schemes. An enlightening and encouraging example has come to notice from a private building near Saat Rasta, Mumbai.... The building people unanimously decided that they do not want to be duped by kothar people and thus have not called any jamea tattu for Imamat in their building. The local Amil of the area then called the residents of the building and tried to convince them that its "Mola ni khushi" that you get when you pray with Imamat, its "Mola ni khushi" that you do all the arkaans rightly and the same old bullshit was given. All kept quiet except one brave heart ! He wrote to the amil stating that if all is done for "Mola ni khushi" then you let go your salaam and not a single penny will be given to corporate beggars like you, thats it ! MOLA NI KHUSHI GAI TEL PIVA !

Now this building will be relieved from all unnecessary taxes and bohras should learn from them that even one person can bring a change so why not all of us ?? Why should we pay for these jamea robots, dont we know how to pray namaz ? and what barkat will we receive if we pray under such selfish and money minded people ? SAY NO TO SUCH BEGGARS AND PRAY BY YOURSELF, YOU WILL ATTAIN MORE BARKAT, SUCH MONEY MINDED PEOPLE ONLY KNOW HOW TO PLEASE THEIR MASTER "MS". HE IS NOT BOTHERED ABOUT YOU.

MS revolution had started long back but now it is gaining momentum.... SUDHRI JAO NAHI TO PHEKAAI JASO !!



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#8

Unread post by Wajid » Sat Jun 04, 2016 1:42 pm

Salaams to all,

Ramadan Mubarak. Doua ma yaad

شَهْرُ رَمَضَانَ الَّذِي أُنزِلَ فِيهِ الْقُرْآنُ هُدًى لِّلنَّاسِ وَبَيِّنَاتٍ مِّنَالْهُدَىٰ وَالْفُرْقَانِ فَمَن شَهِدَ مِنكُمُ الشَّهْرَ فَلْيَصُمْهُ وَمَن كَان مَرِيضًا أَوْ عَلَىٰ سَفَرٍ فَعِدَّةٌ مِّنْ أَيَّامٍ أُخَرَ يُرِيدُ اللَّهُ بِكُمُ الْيُسْرَ وَلَا يُرِيدُ بِكُمُ الْعُسْرَ وَلِتُكْمِلُوا الْعِدَّةَ وَلِتُكَبِّرُوا اللَّهَ عَلَىٰ مَا هَدَاكُمْ وَلَعَلَّكُمْ تَشْكُرُونَ

Ramadhan is the (month) in which was sent down the Qur'an, as a guide to mankind, also clear (Signs) for guidance and judgment (Between right and wrong). So every one of you who is present (at his home) during that month should spend it in fasting, but if any one is ill, or on a journey, the prescribed period (Should be made up) by days later. Allah intends every facility for you; He does not want to put to difficulties. (He wants you) to complete the prescribed period, and to glorify Him in that He has guided you; and perchance ye shall be grateful.



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#9

Unread post by seeker110 » Sat Jun 04, 2016 7:08 pm

One of the difficult arkan for me is to empty out my wifes galla for the poor. Bohraji bhai was a trusted fellow, but no more.

It will be Bilkis Ehdhi foundation for me, again.

Unlucky is the man who cannot help someone who is the true deserving for Zakat and Fitra.

I wish you all a blessed month of Ramadan.



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#10

Unread post by Shk Mohammed Yamani » Sun Jun 05, 2016 10:11 am

Very interesting article in the guardian regarding the holy month.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/j ... ummer-days



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#11

Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun Jun 05, 2016 6:18 pm

Saturday, 04 Jun 2016,

Important: Denmal Vajebaat Bethak

Only those mumeneen who have a valid pass for vajebat bethak should come to Denmal for bethak.

Mumeneen who don't have a valid pass should refrain from coming to Denmal.

Vasalaam,

Idaratut Ta'reef al Shakhsi (ITS)
Dawat e Hadiyah, Badri Mahal



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#12

Unread post by humanbeing » Mon Jun 06, 2016 2:37 am

This means all certified idiots who are scanned and checked for to be safely fleeced are allowed for the wajebaat bethak. Ek dhundo hazaar miltey hai ... Bewakoof !



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#13

Unread post by yuzarsif » Mon Jun 06, 2016 2:57 am

Mere paas aaana, pass le kar anna
jo pass na la sake, to bhool kar bhi paas na aana
Main hu Moula pass walo ka, bina pass walo ka mere pass kya kaam.
jo aana chate ho mere paas, to lelo pass dekar daam.



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#14

Unread post by Dua for Momeen » Mon Jun 06, 2016 6:05 am

Mumeneen who don't have a valid pass should refrain from coming to Denmal.
I heard lots of time burhanuddin shouting from takhat to momeenin.

" e momeenin ni jamaat, tame sagla mara farzando cho, mein tamaro bawa shafiq chu, mara ghar naa darwaza tamara waaste hamesha khula che, tamene jyare koi kaam hoi maari taraf aawo mein tamne jawab daes"

old man never honored his word, he always kept strong body guards in front of his house and never let any genuine people to reach him unless they are rich and have good contacts to get those passes.

now his son is openly restricting people from coming to him.

Quran says.
"Surely, the hypocrites will be in the lowest depths (grade) of the Fire." (Quran 4:145)
DUA FOR MOMEEN.



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#15

Unread post by HMALAK » Tue Jun 07, 2016 4:49 am

Situations in Baroda is very tragic for the common people. They have raised 600 Rs per person for the Ramadan Jaman.
The committee members are blaming the Local Amil Fakhruddin Kothawala for it. Fakhruddin had apparently announced before Ramadan that the Iqraam of the Khidmatguzar coming from Jamea has to be done my people and not Jamaat.
Now the Khidmatguzar has come from Jamea Karachi and is asking Rs 150,000 for the Ramadan Month Najwa.
Also the Aamil's house has been renovated just before the month and Rs. 800,000 were spent on the same.

This whole Taam Jhaam and expenditure will be done with the Public's Money who is already going through a bad period.

Yes you can increase proportionately to the Consumer Price Index but you can not give such big rise to the Hoob.

In addition to this, the Syedna will ask for Vajebaat which includes all kind of taxes of living and dead human beings.

God Bless...!!!



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#16

Unread post by Dua for Momeen » Tue Jun 07, 2016 7:15 am

HMALAK wrote:Situations in Baroda is very tragic for the common people. They have raised 600 Rs per person for the Ramadan Jaman.
The committee members are blaming the Local Amil Fakhruddin Kothawala for it. Fakhruddin had apparently announced before Ramadan that the Iqraam of the Khidmatguzar coming from Jamea has to be done my people and not Jamaat.
Now the Khidmatguzar has come from Jamea Karachi and is asking Rs 150,000 for the Ramadan Month Najwa.
Also the Aamil's house has been renovated just before the month and Rs. 800,000 were spent on the same.

This whole Taam Jhaam and expenditure will be done with the Public's Money who is already going through a bad period.

Yes you can increase proportionately to the Consumer Price Index but you can not give such big rise to the Hoob.

In addition to this, the Syedna will ask for Vajebaat which includes all kind of taxes of living and dead human beings.

God Bless...!!!
person coming from karachi means air tickets and other expenses, why not some one from surat?



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#17

Unread post by HMALAK » Tue Jun 07, 2016 7:24 am

Dua for Momeen wrote:
HMALAK wrote:Situations in Baroda is very tragic for the common people. They have raised 600 Rs per person for the Ramadan Jaman.
The committee members are blaming the Local Amil Fakhruddin Kothawala for it. Fakhruddin had apparently announced before Ramadan that the Iqraam of the Khidmatguzar coming from Jamea has to be done my people and not Jamaat.
Now the Khidmatguzar has come from Jamea Karachi and is asking Rs 150,000 for the Ramadan Month Najwa.
Also the Aamil's house has been renovated just before the month and Rs. 800,000 were spent on the same.

This whole Taam Jhaam and expenditure will be done with the Public's Money who is already going through a bad period.

Yes you can increase proportionately to the Consumer Price Index but you can not give such big rise to the Hoob.

In addition to this, the Syedna will ask for Vajebaat which includes all kind of taxes of living and dead human beings.

God Bless...!!!
person coming from karachi means air tickets and other expenses, why not some one from surat?
Buddy, the Local Aamil has gone to another place for so called khidmat. He goes there in the morning and come back in the evening after having dinner. This is even more confusing that they had to call a person from Karachi for performing the duties



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Unread post by SBM » Tue Jun 07, 2016 10:19 am

This is even more confusing that they had to call a person from Karachi for performing the duties
Moula Ni Khushi



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#19

Unread post by humanbeing » Wed Jun 08, 2016 2:30 am

Arre Bhai

Ramzan is full on Dhandey ka time, amils and jobless teachers and students of jamea needs to be motivated, such transfers give them fresh air and moolah. plus it helps in fooling idiot abdes that someone of prime knowledge has been imported to shower knowledge on them.



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#20

Unread post by Shk Mohammed Yamani » Wed Jun 08, 2016 8:30 am

*RAMDAAN SPECIAL*
Please try this nuskho.
I tried it since last 2 days and its very effective.
Do share it with others in your group please.

*One of the common complaints in Ramadan is that of acidity.In most parts of the world the fasts are going to be ranging from 15-18 hours (even more).To combat this I recommend drinking Nabeez.I have been making it since last Ramadan.I'm reposting so that others who suffer from acidity too may benefit.The write up below gives details and the history about Nabeez.*

Nabeez' [Nabidh] was one of the drinks consumed by the Holy Prophet (Sall Allahu Alaihi wa Sallam ).In his time, it was typically made with dates or raisins and water.

*It is an alkalizing tonic, having the tendency to remove acidity from the stomach and digestive system and it also helps to remove other metabolic wastes from the body. It improves digestion as it's high in soluble fibre and it strengthens the memory. It assists the spleen function, liver, throat, chest and prostate, and so is particularly good for men. Nabeez will also benefit patients of Arthritis and elevated levels of Uric Acid (gout).*

Making Nabeez is just as simple as soaking the dates (or raisins/sultanas) overnight and drinking the water in which they were soaked in the morning.

*The idea behind soaking dates or raisins in water is so that they sweeten the water and become softened. Softened dates/raisins release their vitamins and minerals more easily and are easier to digest.*

'Ajwa' ( a variety of date )are the best variety to use if making Nabeez with stoneless dates and 'Manaqqa' is the best variety of raisins for making it with raisins, but black raisins can also be used, those colours were not Created without reason, so it is always preferable to keep changing our diets with new colours and trying new varieties.

*At night soak around 100 grams of dates or raisins in 1 litre of drinkable / healthy water and keep the utensil covered with a plate. Ensure the water is kept cool.*

Next morning,you can drink the water and eat the soaked fruit as was the traditional method, or just use your blender (water + soaked fruit) to obtain a beautiful cloudy Nabeez.

*And if you soak the fruit in morning, drink it in the evening. Nabeez should be consumed within 12 hours of soaking time, but if it is kept air tight inside the refrigerator, it will not spoil for 2-3 days.*

Nabeez must never be left for more than 2-3 days, otherwise it may start to ferment, which is the start of the alcohol brewing process. This is forbidden to consume.

*Never mix raisins and dates together; their Nabeez be made separately.*



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#21

Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Wed Jun 08, 2016 2:14 pm

the title of this thread is confusing and amusing... what is a bohra ramzan? is it different from a muslim ramzan???



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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Wed Jun 08, 2016 2:15 pm

the title of this thread is confusing and amusing... what is a bohra ramzan? is it different from a muslim ramzan???



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Unread post by SBM » Wed Jun 08, 2016 6:04 pm

Al Zulfiqar wrote:the title of this thread is confusing and amusing... what is a bohra ramzan? is it different from a muslim ramzan???
Yes there is big difference
Muslim Ramadan is when people pray to Almighty Allaha and ask for forgiveness and feed poor and provide clothing and other necessities to the less fortunate
Bohra Ramdan: When Abdes start wetting in their pants and Kotahri Goons start salivating at their mouth. Abdes pray to Almighty to save them from these blood sucking Aamils and Kothari Goons while these Blood Sucking Aamils and Kothari Goons talk to their Moula aka Mafatlal how to suck the last drop out of Abdes/Amtes
See the difference AZ Bhai
May be Br Noorani can summarize with his Shayari :)



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Unread post by bohrabhai » Wed Jun 08, 2016 7:59 pm

Al Zulfiqar wrote:the title of this thread is confusing and amusing... what is a bohra ramzan? is it different from a muslim ramzan???
No it is for Google search engine.



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#25

Unread post by HMALAK » Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:47 am

Mufaddal Saifuddin is coming to Baroda next Tuesday for Maghrib Namaaz. He will stay for 3 hours and take ..... money.

News is confirmed, but not the amount. He is probably en route to Surat or Mumbai.



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#26

Unread post by thesource » Fri Jun 10, 2016 3:01 pm

Mumbai doesn't want him. Go back to Lanka!



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#27

Unread post by Dua for Momeen » Sat Jun 11, 2016 2:50 am

thesource wrote:Mumbai doesn't want him. Go back to Lanka!
I thought Mumbai has most number of loyal abdes? may be things have changed now.

Dua for Momeen.



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#28

Unread post by seeker110 » Sat Jun 11, 2016 5:42 pm

Then maybe he is afraid of his own family, He did treat his own father, miserably. Now its his turn.



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#29

Unread post by subcon111 » Sun Jun 12, 2016 9:19 pm

From North America

A number of new categories have been added to increase collection:

Mazoon and Mukasir Salaam
Hajj - e - Badl: I understand that this is araz as Hajj amount for SMS
Qardan Hasana
FMB Unit: Charged to everyone even if they were participating in FMB

All of these amounts add another $350 or so to the total. And of course wajebat amount increases as well.

I did a basic calculation and total spend in Jamaat related activities comes to about $5000 annually. It is absolutely crazy - the whole agenda is to create a situation where a family's entire life revolves around Jamaat and Jamaat activities by locking them in financially and mentally.



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#30

Unread post by ajamali » Sun Jun 12, 2016 9:32 pm

subcon111 wrote:From North America

A number of new categories have been added to increase collection:

Mazoon and Mukasir Salaam
Hajj - e - Badl: I understand that this is araz as Hajj amount for SMS
Qardan Hasana
FMB Unit: Charged to everyone even if they were participating in FMB

All of these amounts add another $350 or so to the total. And of course wajebat amount increases as well.

I did a basic calculation and total spend in Jamaat related activities comes to about $5000 annually. It is absolutely crazy - the whole agenda is to create a situation where a family's entire life revolves around Jamaat and Jamaat activities by locking them in financially and mentally.
Wow! You're lucky to get away with just 5k! I paid multipleS of that for some years....