Bohra Muharram 2016 and related topics

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Bohra Muharram 2016 and related topics

#1

Unread post by bohrabhai » Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:49 am

Bohra clergy is free and started dangerous game of playing with education of children. Muharram fatwa is issued in Mumbai to school principal.
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I Rizwan
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#2

Unread post by I Rizwan » Tue Jul 19, 2016 1:30 pm

principal must deny this and should not grant any such holidays or else tomorrow hindu will write similar letter for 10 days of nawratri and then all other community will start writing such letters.

true spirit of Muharram doesnt need 10 days if you are true in your intention just few seconds of true love for Imam Hussain(s) is more than enough.

just 10 of Muharram should be granted as holiday to kids.



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#3

Unread post by juzer esmail » Tue Jul 19, 2016 1:38 pm

This letter is just like a bayaan. How come they compare a farizat like Namaaz with a Majlis? By doing this they are misguiding people of other communities also.



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#4

Unread post by alam » Tue Jul 19, 2016 2:15 pm

Instead of going through this year after year, perhaps Modi Maula under guidance of Muffy maula could declare 9 days of mandatory National holiday. That way muffy maula is assured with 100% attendance. Ha ha.

Well as for me, if that did happen I'd still go to the Shia majlis and/or listen to Bohra vaaz on Internet.



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#5

Unread post by Shk Mohammed Yamani » Wed Jul 20, 2016 5:56 am

Excerpts from self glorification bayan in Misr, the shahadat place of asshahid Sasra Yusuf Najmuddin.
Self glorifying himself to "Noorani Bawa" Shafiq Bawa, and what not.
Mufi more la is so desperate to get hes herd out of schools for the 10 days of "ashara mubaraka".
Rumours are doing rounds in Kutta Kothar circle that Muffy's master, the Don of Bohra finance company, the master of fraud, paise ka bhikhari, aka Quid the "horny" Johny, aka Qaeed Joker, is planning to declare Muffy more la as Imamuz Zamaan, imam nu zuhur thaase this Moharram most probably on the 9th night, Ashura ni raat.
Muffy will be known as 22 ma imam, imam mufaddal bin Yusuf Najmuddin (can AL Zulfikar come up with few fancy titles? )
Anyways, enjoy Muffy's rant of self glorification below.
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"BAWA SAAB MOULA"
Jaano Qibla, Haqiki Qabaa, Jaan anei Maal na Maalik, Aap Moula ni umar daraaz karjo, aaj ni majlis ma eim farmayu...

em kem ada kariye che.....
Ek bawa ne potana farzand sathe su laagni hoi che
Su ye koi language describe kari sake che......

Jismani bawa ne kitni umeed hoi che ke mara farzand zindagi na har imtihaan ma kamyaab thai.....

Nursery si lagavi ne phd tak doctorate tak.....

Magar ehma imtihan ma to farzand nej perform karvu pade che bawa faqt doa kari sake che......

Ruhani bawa ne akherat na imtihaan je fikar che itni fikar che ke bas maro farzand kamyaab thai jai mout na nazdeek ye kamyaab thai jai........

Ehna waste taiyyari bhi potej kare che karaave che material bhi potej taiyyar kare che.........

Jismani bawa kitna khush thai che je waqt pass thai che to


Ruhani bawa to pass bhi potej kari de che

Bas tamne itnuj keh che ke examination hall ma qablalwaqt aavi jao ane 9 papers ne khali suni lo likhi ne to main layoj chu answers faqt answer suni lo....

Main pass kari dais.....

Su apne apna ruhani bawa ne khush karva ne itnu bhi nai kari sakta.....?



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#6

Unread post by tipu sultan » Wed Jul 20, 2016 6:38 am

SMY your statement is not surprising or shocking. Anything is possible. Every year like Olympic they need to create extraordinary interest to keep the blind and brain dead hooked on.

In few years hecwill claim to be god, as if Bohra don't already treat him like their god.



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#7

Unread post by Dumbledore » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:10 am

Here is the five star lavish arrangements for the carnival...

in the name of Imaam Hussain...
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#8

Unread post by I Rizwan » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:28 pm

Bhai is writing good articles on dawoodi bohra fiqh but looks like this is old website, not sure which dai he follows now, but people with ilm should come out in open more often.

http://www.hikmaah.com/



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#9

Unread post by bohrabhai » Fri Jul 29, 2016 11:01 pm

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for mohraam tamasha kotharis collecting details .this leaked data is from likely from IT place . funny thing is column dadhi/topi.



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#10

Unread post by tipu sultan » Sat Jul 30, 2016 12:57 am

I Rizwan wrote:Bhai is writing good articles on dawoodi bohra fiqh but looks like this is old website, not sure which dai he follows now, but people with ilm should come out in open more often.

http://www.hikmaah.com/
Did anyone read the crap below the link can we be careful this link is to is an abde site. What ilm ...BS ...

Moula Moula Mufaddal Moula

"Bhen Zehrabai Kalolwala (Bhuribai as lovingly called by her family members) a native of Godhra suffers a severe stroke on 9th July at around 3.30 in the afternoon, and is immediately rushed to Dr.Mazahir Mithiborwala hospital.

Another severe stroke at around 8.30 renders our Bhuribai completely paralysed, and she is put on life support system, and the Doctor advices that family members may be called, and only a miracle can save her, and in the morning the life support system may be removed, as there is no point continuing.

An arz is made in Hazarat Aaliyah Imamiyah by a relative in Karachi. Aqa Moula hears the arz and farmayu 'savare su kam, life support raat ma hatavi do'

After taking an undertaking from a close relative, that it is they who are responsible (a normal medical procedure) life support is disconnected.

Come morning, a slight body movement is noticeable and by afternoon Bhuribai starts talking, by evening starts walking and recollecting, and asks the nurse, where are her gold bangles!!

Please reflect, this is no spiritual persona, just an ordinary mumina having faith. The doa mubaraka of Haq na Dai reaches her and brings her back to life, and in the process our aqida is nourished.

An eye opener for all those who are relying more on the medical experts prognosis, than on their own faith and DEEN.



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#11

Unread post by seeker110 » Sat Jul 30, 2016 1:07 am

This stuff should be on CNN. New York Times and Washington Post. and Bachon Ki Dunya.


Moula Moula Mufaddal Moula

"Bhen Zehrabai Kalolwala (Bhuribai as lovingly called by her family members) a native of Godhra suffers a severe stroke on 9th July at around 3.30 in the afternoon, and is immediately rushed to Dr.Mazahir Mithiborwala hospital.

Another severe stroke at around 8.30 renders our Bhuribai completely paralysed, and she is put on life support system, and the Doctor advices that family members may be called, and only a miracle can save her, and in the morning the life support system may be removed, as there is no point continuing.

An arz is made in Hazarat Aaliyah Imamiyah by a relative in Karachi. Aqa Moula hears the arz and farmayu 'savare su kam, life support raat ma hatavi do'

After taking an undertaking from a close relative, that it is they who are responsible (a normal medical procedure) life support is disconnected.

Come morning, a slight body movement is noticeable and by afternoon Bhuribai starts talking, by evening starts walking and recollecting, and asks the nurse, where are her gold bangles!!

Please reflect, this is no spiritual persona, just an ordinary mumina having faith. The doa mubaraka of Haq na Dai reaches her and brings her back to life, and in the process our aqida is nourished.

An eye opener for all those who are relying more on the medical experts prognosis, than on their own faith and DEEN.



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#12

Unread post by objectiveobserver53 » Sat Jul 30, 2016 1:47 am

^^^ you mean it should be in the fiction section of The Gando Mufaddali...



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#13

Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Sat Jul 30, 2016 7:27 pm

Toronto - Seniors Maatam.jpg
Friends, the above circular is in connection with Ashura preparations (ohbat). Now seniors have to take Maatam classes which will instruct them into how to do maatam in the proper, prescribed, modern manner. Maatam rules and practices have changed from the days when it was very simple to show grief whichever way it came spontaneously. You wept, doubled over, you cried into your handkerchief, you sobbed, you gently beat your chest and around your head when you couldn’t contain your sorrow. You punished yourself out of sheer emotion and guilt. But all that spontaneity is now frowned upon. There are rigid maatam ‘”systems” developed in the R&D laboratories of Saifee Mahal in conjunction with the experts at the Jamea in Surat which have to be strictly enforced. The baby boomer generation between 30-55 are now well-trained in this, so are the age group that attend madrasa classes where they are taught by daras trained moallims. Now the emphasis has to be shifted towards the fuddy-duddy senile over-the-hill old foggies in their 60’s and above who are completely out of touch.

Obviously! Seniors' maatamy skills get rusted with age. Their reflexes slow down and they find it difficult to keep pace with the frantic tempo of the marsiyas. As the marsiyas enter the climax stage, it can get really frenetic and the seniors' arms lose rhythm and energy. For all practical purposes their chest beats and the marsiya beats are no longer in synch. This ohbat is to test different marsiya speeds so seniors can deliver a well-orchestrated musical performance pleasing to Mola’s ears. Seniors who get exhausted with all the hysterical banging and hammering will be suitably nourished with noorani phoonk nu paani. They will also get a free BP checkup post maatam. Experts with metronomes will also analyse how high their arms should swing before delivering a resounding thud on fragile chests, without the seniors dropping dead on the arsh like the shohodas of kerbala.

Seniors will also be tested for their vocal strength as they yell “Ya Hussain” and other such de’ rigeur slogans which are so necessary for the maatam ambience to take effect, esp. when the self-flagellation reaches its crescendo. Decibel meters will be employed to test laryngeal strength. Those with the strongest and most effective vocal chords will be positioned in the advanced level safs, while those with progressively weaker throats and ENT diseases will be demoted and placed right at the back. Strepsils, Halls, and soothing throat pastilles, honey with cinnamon and haldi nu doodh will be kept handy and administered to seniors requiring help when their throats give way.

Re: Rova jevu moh (RJM) – Many seniors are unaware that this alternative is available to them if they cannot or do not want to cry. For those suffering from lachrymosis, dry eyes and optical burning syndrome, RJM is very convenient. Acting classes will be conducted by the famous Anupam Kher who is being flown in from Mumbai for this purpose. Hand-held mirrors will be provided to every senior so that they can self-evaluate their skills in RJM. If RJM can be accompanied with the “sobs-racking-the-body” act, it will be the final icing on the cake.

This is all going to be very technical. Seniors are welcome to give additional suggestions and input on this extremely critical subject of great importance to the future of our deen. Toronto jamaat remains at the forefront of cutting edge scientific studies in deeni farziyat.

Mola na karam ane ehsaan beshumaar chhe....Su eni niraali shaan chhe!
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#14

Unread post by tipu sultan » Sat Jul 30, 2016 7:55 pm

AZ can I suggest Canadians take the lead...

No excuse age and beauty both have to do at same speeds

I will keep First Aid, Ambulance and Janaza committee on standby ...seniors are delicate

There will be tawil....the chest beating is better than walking on treadmill and helps cardio



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#15

Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Sat Jul 30, 2016 8:08 pm

tipu sultan wrote:AZ can I suggest Canadians take the lead...
as you can see from the toronto jamaat circular, they have already taken the lead..



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#16

Unread post by I Rizwan » Sun Jul 31, 2016 12:02 am

Thank you Al Zulfiqar for posting this, just few mins back one of my abde relative came to give izan for matam majlis also this izan was just for my dad and mom so I was surprised but now it all makes sense. I was not aware some thing like this is going on.



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#17

Unread post by I Rizwan » Sun Jul 31, 2016 12:09 am

Basically they are trying to erase all old and authentic dawat nahej and replace it with new senseless and often destructive mentality.



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#18

Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun Aug 07, 2016 6:23 pm

watsup msg

Forwarded as Received :

Today a delegation from Nagpur led by Janab Syed ul Khair BS, Janab Miqdad BS, alongwith Nagpur jamat members met Hon'ble Union Minister for Road transport, highways and shipping, Shri Nitin Gadkari (belongs to Nagpur) to get all the help required for Aqa Mola TUS Ashara in Nagpur. Hon'ble minister agreed to provide his full support on all the issues discussed and also gave his input. He said, being centrally located in India it's a very ideal venue for such an event and also said that apart from the discussion any other help required I will give it.

Dua kariye che ke Panjatan Pak na vasila si, Burhanuddin aqa na vasila si ke Huzurala TUS aa varas Ashara Mubaraka apna shehar Nagpur ma aqed farmaavey.



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#19

Unread post by Dumbledore » Mon Aug 08, 2016 9:42 am

Relax legs after waaz

As recvd in my abde circle
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#20

Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Mon Aug 08, 2016 7:34 pm

watsup msg

Forwarded as Received :-

Ashara Mubaraka Ohbat Sidhpur 1438 H

Aqa Mola TUS 1438 H na Ashara Mubaraka Sidhpur ma aqd farmaavey ye neeyat par tamam Sidhpur na mumineen aney Sidhpur na Muttawatteneen Tabudat na Amalo karey. Sidhpur ma Huzur e Ala TUS 1438 H na Ashara Mubaraka aqd farmaavey ye neeyat si sagla :-

1. Nazrul Maqaam (as) maaney Sidhpur na rehnar mumineen aney Muttawatteneen ne ye Nazrul Maqaam (as) - Aqa Mola TUS na haath mubarak par araz karvy naseeb thaasey, Inshallah.

2. Imam Hussein (as) ni ziyarat vaastey Karbala mola aney Misr ma Rasul Hussein (as) vaastey jaaye aney Imkaan hoi to koi mumin ne Imam Hussein (as) ni ziyarat vaastey mokalva ni neeyat karey. Hamna Imkaan na hoi to Ashara Mubaraka baad bhi mokli saksey.

3. Aatabat Aaliya, Duat Mutlaqeen (ra) aney Hudud Fozala (qr) ni ziyarat vaastey jaaye.

4. Molana Hamza (as) ni neeyat par salawaat ni zabihat karey aney gosht apna gaam na Faizul Mawaid Burhania ma aapey.

5. Apna gharo ma Imam Hussein (as) ni matam ni majlis raakhi noha aney aweel ne zahir karey.

6. Panjatan, Ya Tayyeb, Ya Mohammed aney Ya Mufaddal ni tasbeeh laakho vaar karey aney ehni ginti www.sidhpurashara.com par Tabudat na amal ma araz karey ya ehna city na incharge ne nondh karaavey taakey tasbeeh ni ginti Aqa Mola TUS ni hazrat aaliya ma araz karva ma aavey.

7. Khatmul Quran karey. Duao ni tilaawat karey (Dua e Kaamil, Dua e Joshan, Dua e Nasre wal mahaba aney biji duao ni tilawat karey).

8. Sidhpur ma maghrib Isha ni namaz baad roz Syedi Qazi Khan saheb (qr) na roza mubarak ma matam ni majlis thaai che ej misal sagla imaani shehro ma Sidhpur na Muttawatteneen bhi amal karey,

9. 27 mi Zilqad Syedna Taher Saifuddin aqa (ra) na milad mubarak na moqe par sagla Sidhpur na mumineen aney muttawatteneen Hazrat Imamiyah ma - Sidhpur ma Ashara thaai - ehna araz vaastey je bhi jagah Aqa Mola TUS tashreef raakhta hoi waha sagla araz vaastey hazir thaasey,

10. 27 mi Zilqad 1437 H baad sagla Sidhpur aavsey aney Sidhpur ma j rehsey aney sagla mumineen mutawatteneen Ashara Mubaraka ni khidmato ma,jema bhi (Mawaid, Accommodation, Transport, IT etc) ehney shaukh che ehni hamara yaha nondh karaavsey aney Ashara Mubaraka baad Aqa Mola TUS jaha lag Sidhpur tashreef raakhey waha lag Sidhpur ma rahi ne Aqa Mola TUS ni khidmat kari sagli barakat ni talaqqi karsey.

Note: Sagli information and updates www.sidhpurashara.com par upload karva ma aavsey. Tamam Tabudat na amal nu report www.sidhpurashara.com par nondh karey.

Amil Saheb

Sidhpur.



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#21

Unread post by kimanumanu » Tue Aug 09, 2016 7:03 am

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Ashara is already confirmed in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania as per attached news article.



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#22

Unread post by gulam_parinda » Tue Aug 09, 2016 8:01 am

Mola damru jara dhire bajaiye,
Gum karne walo ko yu bandar na banaaiye.

Gaib jaante ho to jara pehle se bataaiye.
Moharram ka pataa logo ko sidha bataaiye.

Apne pairo per jara chal ke dikhaaiye,
Fir ghutno pe maatam ka tarika bataaiye.

Logo ke pagalpan ko yu na badhaaiye,
Hussain ki shahaadat ka maqsad samjhaiye.

Aeise hi Hussain per daavedari mat jataaiye,
Hussain chaahte hai aisa ek kaam kar dikhaaiye.

Videshi tamboo me paisa mat bahaaiye,
Garib Sidhpuriyo ke kacche ghar savaariye.

Unpadh hone ka gussa logo pe mat utaariye.
Moharram me baccho ki shiksha mat bigaadiye.

bevajah hukam ki chaabi mat chalaaiye,
Mumin ko robot se jara Insaan banaaiye.

Mola damru jara dhire bajaaiye,
Gum karne walo ko yu bandar na banaaiye.



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#23

Unread post by I Rizwan » Tue Aug 09, 2016 8:34 am

kimanumanu wrote:IMG-20160804-WA0003.jpg

Ashara is already confirmed in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania as per attached news article.
Mubarak to sidhpur, bal bal bach gaye :lol:



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#24

Unread post by think » Tue Aug 09, 2016 11:41 am

bulandi kisi ke bhi hamaisha ke lia nahi rehti,
oonchy imaraat har waqt khatre may rehti hai



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#25

Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Tue Aug 09, 2016 1:31 pm

Percy Shelley's "Ozymandias"

I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: "Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed:
And on the pedestal these words appear:
'My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!'
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.[4]



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#26

Unread post by think » Tue Aug 09, 2016 4:00 pm

Read this poem in my 8th. grade. Takes me way back into my yester years.



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#27

Unread post by humanbeing » Thu Aug 11, 2016 2:18 am

Al Zulfiqar wrote:Percy Shelley's "Ozymandias"
OMG ! this poem transported me to my school days ! I remember at that time I did not understand english very well and only cared to pass the exams. such poems were only theory for me to rattofy (mug-up) the puns, metaphors and similies, they were like formulae and theorem I had to remember.

Now reading these poems is so interesting.



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#28

Unread post by gulam_parinda » Fri Aug 12, 2016 1:11 pm

Don't know what to say...they are transforming these children and making mindless zombie abdes
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#29

Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Aug 18, 2016 5:46 pm

Majlis Survey
Baad as Salaam il Jameel,

With the Raza and Dua of Aqa Moula tus, mumineen across the globe have been blessed with barakat of Imam Husain as Majlis in their very homes. It seems every mumin is insisting that he too gets this chance before Ashara Mubaraka arrives.
If a Majlis has been held at your home, or will be held on a tentative date before Ashara Mubaraka, please fill in the details below.

CLICK HERE TO FILL DETAILS

May Allah ta grant our beloved Moula tus a long and healthy life until the day of Qiyamat. Aameen.

Vasalaam,
Idaratut Ta'reef al Shakhsi (ITS)
Dawat e Hadiyah, Badri Mahal



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#30

Unread post by Shk Mohammed Yamani » Wed Aug 24, 2016 8:08 am

Mufaddal Saifuddin is so desperate to know who will attend hes BHAASHAN ON HUSAIN that he has ordered his GHULAAM (SLAVES) to find out if abdes are doing 24/7 Matam Majlis and if anyone objects, hes jamaat chamchas sends the local Burhani Gundaas to force the ghulaame Saifuddin to perform the so called NOHA WA AWIL there and then.
Shame on these Mufaddali Burhani Gundaawo, may Allah's Laanat fall on them all, especially the Saifee Mahal residence of self proclaimed Dawoodi Bohra Dai, the Hunter, the killer of A innocent animals, the money grabber of gharib moominin, Mufaddal Saifuddin.


Baad Salaamil Jameel,

 

With the Raza and Dua Mubarak of Aqa Maula TUS, mumineen across aalam-e-imaan have been blessed with the barakaat of Imam Husain AS majlis at their homes. The tafadi in mumineen is visible, with every mumin coming forward and insisting that he too gets the sharaf of hosting this Majlis at his home before Ashara Mubaraka 1438H commence.

 

A link has been opened up on https://www.its52.com  for all mumineen. You are required to log on to the site, and fill in information related to Majlis. This survey is to identify whether Majlis has been held at your house, or will be held, and tentatively when.

 

Mumineen must note, while filling in this information that these figures are done araz in Hazrat Aaliya( TUS) on a daily basis.

 



If for some reasons, you cannot view the survey page, you can find it on the homepage of https://www.its52.com