Bohra Muharram 2016 and related topics

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Re: Bohra Muharram 2016 and related topics

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Unread post by think » Thu Sep 29, 2016 10:08 am

while Imam hussain is suffering in Kerbala, muffy is enjoying helicopter rides in Dar es Salam.And then a statement from him that the leadership of Tanzania invited him to do Ashura in Dar es Salam and all the Abdes said ya, ya but the smart ones know that the Prime minister of Tanzania does not know anything about Ashura he is dreaming of shillings



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Re: Bohra Muharram 2016 and related topics

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Unread post by Zali110 » Thu Sep 29, 2016 7:34 pm

Over whelmed with the Reply from this Amil :P



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Re: Bohra Muharram 2016 and related topics

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Unread post by Mkenya » Fri Sep 30, 2016 12:42 am

The focus of this year's Muharram is now Dar-es-Salaam and it is learnt on authority and verification that no waaz will be performed in Mombasa, Tanga and all surrounding towns. Bohras have amassed in droves in Dar-es-Salaam. On inquiring I was informed that the visitors will have to fend for accommodation themselves and that rentals are quite high. The logistics of maneuvering, transporting, feeding, etc. of thousands of people requires a lot of money and personnel. That they are able to do that is a feat; particularly in a third-world country like Tanzania. I raise my 'topi' to that!



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Re: Bohra Muharram 2016 and related topics

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Unread post by New » Fri Sep 30, 2016 1:07 am

The name should be Dai-es-Salam.



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Re: Bohra Muharram 2016 and related topics

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Sep 30, 2016 4:58 pm

A bunch of Dubai fanatics left for the Mohurrum carnival yesterday itself by an Emirates Airline flight specially chartered by them. The damages were around 2900 dirhams per person (2 way).



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Re: Bohra Muharram 2016 and related topics

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Sep 30, 2016 6:47 pm

NIYAAZ TAKHMEEN

Shazada Saheb will preside for NIYAZ E HUSAIN AS Takhmeen Bethak on 1st OCTOBER 2016 Saturday at 10.00am.

Mumenin are requested to come to Janab Amil Saheb Office for TAKHMEEN.

Vasalaam,

Idaratut Ta'reef al Shakhsi (ITS)
Dawat e Hadiyah, Badri Mahal



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Re: Bohra Muharram 2016 and related topics

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MUFFY'S CARS FOR HIS CARNIVAL IN DAR E SALAM
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Re: Bohra Muharram 2016 and related topics

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Sep 30, 2016 7:03 pm

Whatsaap Msg :

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Re: Bohra Muharram 2016 and related topics

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Unread post by Shafakat » Fri Sep 30, 2016 8:53 pm

Like Yazid's army who collected all the heads of Karbala shohdas. This jungle ka yazid also collects heads of the animal he kills.



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Re: Bohra Muharram 2016 and related topics

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Unread post by trvoice » Fri Sep 30, 2016 9:21 pm

Am I the only one who noticed a pig's skull (wart hog) mounted next to SMB's picture ?



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Re: Bohra Muharram 2016 and related topics

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Unread post by SBM » Fri Sep 30, 2016 9:52 pm

it is learnt on authority and verification that no waaz will be performed in Mombasa, Tanga and all surrounding towns.
Time for people from Fatemi Dawat to send an email to all the Mumineens( I am sure they have all those addresses from E Jamaat data base) of these Jamaats to tune in to video relay of 54th Syedna. Let all these Abdes/Amtes know that STF's waez is free and you can take all the sawab you want right in the comfort of your house or at your work thru your Mobile phone.



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Re: Bohra Muharram 2016 and related topics

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Unread post by ajamali » Fri Sep 30, 2016 10:55 pm

trvoice wrote:Am I the only one who noticed a pig's skull (wart hog) mounted next to SMB's picture ?
Good catch trvoice!



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Re: Bohra Muharram 2016 and related topics

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Mon Oct 03, 2016 5:03 pm

Jannat only for Burhanuddin believers. others will become snakes and scorpions.

Please click https://youtu.be/EKrxyCbXEXI watch 2.36 min video.

For those who do not understand the language, a Gujarati verbatim narration is written, along with English translation.

You will notice that most Bayan is about Mola Mufaddal revering his Father Syedna Burhanuddin. Even in the short 2.34 minute sermon, most is about his father, who he says controls the gates of Jannat.

What happens to those who were born and died during the reign of previous Dais? They did not do Valayat of Mola Burhanuddin. Does Mola Mufaddal say those will go to Jahannam? What about past Imams? They didn’t believe in Mola Burhanuddin's Mohabbat and Valayat. Such talks are fake attributing so much importance giving power of awarding Jannat and Jahannam to his Father Mola Burhanuddin.

Actually, Mola Burhanuddin himself never said that those who do not believe in his Valayat, or do not love him, will go to Jahannam. Yes, he was cursing those who opposed his father Syedna Taher Saifuddin. Nowadays those previous Dais and others who made sacrifices, are not given much importance unless their tomb gallas are making money for Mola Mufaddal. They give sermons about greatness of mothers, but never mention mothers of Imams or previous Dais. Women folk is totally ignored.

Mola Mufaddal says Allah will give 8 Jannat for one Tear shed (Aansu). If someone has shed one Aansu for Imam Hussain and has already pocketed Jannat, why would he perform fasts and pray or do other good deeds? He can do heinous crimes, and still keep his Jannat in bank. I have heard about seven heavens, seven Jannat but not eight Jannat. Did Mufaddal Mola create 8th Jannat?

He says those who did not believe in Valayat of Mola Burhanuddin, Allah will punish them by incarnating them into snakes and scorpions. So, would Muawiya become powerful python and Yazid will become rattle snakes? Probably Mola Mufaddal does not know there are many kinds of Snakes and scorpions. In Quran, there is no mention of incarnation. It is Bohra thought that matches Hindu mythology which says those people who were not good to Brahmins were incarnated as untouchables.

Finally, I am puzzled by those so called educated Bohras, who know that World has 7 billion people and Bohras are less than a million. Those other non-Bohras in China, Japan, Far East, Russia, America, even have no Idea what Bohras are and who Burhanuddin is. According to Mola Mufaddal they all will go to Jahannam including those who gave him title of Chancellor, Doctorate and those Ministers in Kenya, who welcomed him in their country. Actually, Dai is supposed to convert those in China and Japan to Bohra faith.

East Africa region is bedeviled by organizations like Jihadist Al-Shabaab, Salafists, etc.; if they come to know about such blasphemous utterance of Mola Mufaddal, Bohras of region may come in trouble. Leaders of small Muslim sects like Bohra, should be very cautious of what they utter. Yes, Mola Mufaddal wants to make Bohras emotional and take their money, but he should not be over greedy. His brothers Qaid Johar etc. should not pressure Mola Mufaddal for more and more.

જે લોગો એ મોલા બુરહાનુદ્દીન ની મોહબબત નથી કીદે વલાયત નથી કીદી, એ સગલા જહાન્નમ મા જાસે જન્નત મા જઇ જ નહી સકે. ખુદા નો શુકુર કરીએ અપને સગલાએ મોહબ્બત કીદી છે જન્નત મા અપને જાવાનુ છે. ઘના કહે છે જન્નત શું છે? ખાલી વાતો છે. જેને ના સમજવુ હોય તે ના સમજે, મુનાફીકીન. ખબર પડસે; છેલ્લે, મારો અંજામ શું થયો. જેમ બૂઝુરગો કહે છે, માટી ઠંડી થાવી જોયે. કબરના અંદર લિટાવે ને.. તે વખત ખબર પડસે કે મે મોહબ્બત કેમ ના કીદી, વલાયત કેમ ના કીદી? ઘનો પછતાવામાં રહી જાસે કે આ સુ કીદુ. ખુદા પછી તેને અઝાબ કરસે. સાંપ અને વિચ્છુ ની ખોલી મા ઉતારસે. જેમ મીસાક મા બયાન આયુ છે. હજી નીચે જાસે. છેલ્લે સિત્તીન મા જાસે, જયાં મોટા દુશમના જાય યઝીદ ને મોઆવિયા જાય છે તેમ. જેમ દુશમની કરસે તેની હીસાબ થી જાસે. ખુદાતાલા નો શુકુર કરીએ અપને મોહબ્બત કીદી છે. હવે હુસેન યે આખરી દુઆ કીદી. સજદામાં. એ મોમીનીન, તમને રોતા કોયે શીખાયુ? કોયે શીખાયુ? આ અમને માતમ કરતા કોયે શીખાયુ? મોહમદ બુરહાનુદ્દીન આક઼ા એ. બાવાજી સાહેબે. ખુદાતાલા જઝા અતા કરજો. બલ્કે એક આંસુ ના બદલે આઠ જનન્નત અતા કરસે. તમારા આફ્રીકામાં બી યહાંબી એવા લોગો હસે માતમ કરે તો હંસે. કે આ તો મોડ્રન એજ છે,આમ જોયે, આમ જોયે. આ તો હલકા લોગો બધા. જાનો છો કે એ હલકા લોગો કાં ગયા? તે બધા જહાન્નમ મા ગયા. ખુદા અપને તોફીક઼ ને યારી આપે આ મીસલ ના લોગો થી અલગ કરે. આવા લોગો સાથે બેસવાનુ બરાબર નહી. જે આવી વાતો કરતા હોય. તમે જાનો છો કેનીયા મા અને તાનઝાનીયા મા પન એવા લોગો હતા કે હસે કાં ગયા? હજી પન હસે. આવા લોગો સાથે બેસવુ નહી. અપને એનો અસર થાય એટલા માટે.

હુસેન યે સજદો દીદો સગલા મોમીનીનના હકમા દુઆ કીદી. લઇન શિમરે બદને અતહરથી માથા મુબારક ને જુદુ કરી નાખુ.... યા હુસેન... યા હુસેન....

Translation in English

Syedna Mufaddal while addressing a gathering in Darussalam, says that those who did not love and did not believe in Mola Burhanuddin’s Valayat, all went to Jahannam. Let us thank Allah that we loved Mola Burhanuddin. We prepare to go to Jannat. Many ask what is Jannat? It is just an empty talk. Those who do not want to believe may not believe; those doubters. In end they will know. In end they will ask what my end was. Elder people say let the dirt of grave become cold. You know when they lay in grave. At that time they will know. They will say why I not loved Mola Burhanuddin, Why did not I believe in his Valayat. They will repent too much. Allah will punish them. Allah will reincarnate them as snakes and scorpions. Like what is described in Misaq. Finally they will go into Sittin where big enemies like Yazid and Muawiya have gone. Punishment will be measured by degree of enmity. Let us thank Allah we loved Mola Burhanuddin.

Now Hussein A.S. made last prayer in Sajda. Oh my Bohras, who taught you crying? Who taught you Crying? It was Mola Burhanuddin Aqa; my revered Father. May Allah reward him. Allah will bestow you 8 Jannat for one tear (lamenting for Imam Hussain). In your Africa and here also, there may be people who laugh at Matam. They say this is modern age; it should be like this; it should be like that. These (Matam doers) are low class people. Do you know where are those who said low-class people? Where are they? They all went to Jahannam. May Allah inspire and help that we do not mix with such people. Sitting with such people is not right thing to do; who talk like this. You know in Kenya and Tanzania also there were people like this; they may be still there. It is not right to mix with them because their thoughts affect us.

Molana Hussain went in Sajda. He prayed for all Momineen (meaning Bohras) Wretched Shimar separated Imam’s head from his glorious body. Ya Hussain, Ya Hussain.

Asghar Vasanwala



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Re: Bohra Muharram 2016 and related topics

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Mon Oct 03, 2016 5:20 pm

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Mon Oct 03, 2016 5:21 pm

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Mon Oct 03, 2016 5:22 pm

DAR E SALAAM
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Re: Bohra Muharram 2016 and related topics

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Unread post by zinger » Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:55 am

ghulam muhammed wrote:Whatsaap Msg :

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MUFFY'S HOUSE IN AFRICA

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i dont know about anyone else but i would hate to live in a house with so much death in it



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Re: Bohra Muharram 2016 and related topics

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Unread post by Moiz_Dhaanu » Tue Oct 04, 2016 3:19 am

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Whatever happened to the Diktat of MS of "Ek khaaraas and Ek mithaas...no matter what the occasion. :roll:
Thought to ponder...
can a Dai be a hypocrite , answer is NO, then the obvious conclusion becomes , MS is an impostor.



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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Wed Oct 05, 2016 5:09 pm

ABDE ZOMBIE
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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Wed Oct 05, 2016 5:51 pm

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Wed Oct 05, 2016 5:57 pm

PREPARING THE THRONE [DELETED]
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Re: Bohra Muharram 2016 and related topics

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Unread post by Bohra spring » Thu Oct 06, 2016 12:39 am

Yazid 60 AH


Yazid was the wicked son of Mu'awiyah who inherited his father's rule. He was the second of the dynastic rulers at the beginning of the Islamic era. His father Mu'awiyah had obtained power over the Muslim community through deceit and treachery. During the last days of his reign, he made the people pledge their support the his son Yazid. Thereupon, he installed his as his successor at an official ceremony.

They were able to see with their own eyes what kind of man was the man who was ruling as a caliph of Islam, namely a man who love wine, racing dogs, gambling and a life of ease and luxury and shamelessly violated the honour of men, women and children alike

Mufadal Saifudin 1438

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Re: Bohra Muharram 2016 and related topics

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Oct 06, 2016 6:12 pm

whatsup msg :

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Mr. Mufaddal Saifuddin,

Your idea of grieving Hussain's martyrdom is disgusting ! You are a sick mind ! Because no sane mind can insult Hussain's sacrifice the way you do. You glorify Hussain to rule the masses. You glorify Hussain to exploit the gullible. You glorify Hussain to extract money. You glorify Hussain to live a life of king. You threaten the poor and the underprivileged to excommunicate if they do not fall in line with your commands. You cry Hussain and you gorge on delectable cuisines three times a day on those 10 days of Mohurrum. You extort people to be in your feet with their swiped smart cards. You have opened a shop by the name "Hussain". You have spread your business worldwide and your business is roaring. You are the master of conman-ship. You have made Hussain an art in which you excel. You have become an artist with par excellence. A man only with the heart of a devil can live such a life. You have made affluent Bohri wicked. You have made a religiously unaware Bohri a typical bee worker. You have created an army of slaves who have been kept in a drunken state in the name of Heaven and Hell.

Why are you doing this ? How does your heart allow you to be so cruel and unafraid of Hussain's sacrifices ? Why have you put chains around the followers of Hussain ? Aren't you exactly the one whom Hussain was fighting with to uphold integrity and truthfulness and sacrificed his and his family's life ?

You think you are an emperor, but to me you are beggar !!



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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Oct 07, 2016 4:45 pm

Please click https://youtu.be/JZr3nlel2Eg and watch Darussalam pomp and Salam; and, Money-magicians on steroid.

I have combined two videos. In first video, please watch how a Salam-assistant grabs Salam-covers and quickly, like a magician, throws it into a depository. This allows Syedna save his precious Business seconds. In the video a person is describing his long story, problems, achievements, etc. On one hand, Bohras says “Mola knows everything; even what is in Ghaib”; on the other hand, they want to tell Mola everything and waste his business time. Like Mirza Ghalib, Bohras should think “ Zahir hai tera hal, un-par, kahe bager” ઝાહિર હે તેરા હાલ, ઉનપર, કહે બગ઼ેર or Mufaddal knows everything without you telling him; so, why do you waste his precious time?”

The second video, is of Darussalam Moharram Tamasha. It looks like a mini procession of home coming football team after winning a series. However, cheer girls are missing. This component of revelry may be added in future years.

Syedna has almost forgotten walking. He likes to be carried everywhere. Listen to a child screaming Mola Mola. What a brain washing.

Has Syedna come to Darussalam for Waez of Imam Hussain’s Shahadat, or for a gala party for himself? This all show and Tamasha is for glorifying himself and his father Syedna Burhanuddin and also for minting money; Waez of Imam Hussain's Shahadat is only an excuse.

For this, he has ordered Bohras to close their Businesses, forget their top examinations, and miss their schools. અપને એક અદના તમાશે કે લિયે, ઇતના સતાયા કોઠાર ને. Apne ek adna tamshe ke liye, itna sataya Kothar ne. For showing off his small street side drama, Syedna made Bohras suffer so much trouble.

Asghar Vasanwala



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Re: Bohra Muharram 2016 and related topics

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Unread post by gulam_parinda » Sat Oct 08, 2016 4:03 am

Tej hu kahu...mane raat maa uungh kem nathi awatj
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Re: Bohra Muharram 2016 and related topics

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Unread post by zinger » Sat Oct 08, 2016 4:26 am

Waaz has started about 90 minutes ago of which 15 mins wasted on pepple doing salaam, 20 mins on bayan on Burhanuddin maula, and almost 30mins spent on the Tanzanian president and grand mufti speeches.

So when does zikr e Hussain AS happen?

If this same shit is on tomorrow then I'm not coming :evil:

Kothari stooges, please pass this message on to the guys in dar es salam. Clean up your act or this goes on Facebook :x



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Unread post by zinger » Sat Oct 08, 2016 4:47 am

Today, 7th muharram ni Waaz has been nothing short of a joke...

DISGRACEFUL AND DISGUSTING

IT WAS AN EFFING PHOTO-OP

Mr MS, you make me hang my head in shame



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Re: Bohra Muharram 2016 and related topics

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Unread post by mustafazr » Sat Oct 08, 2016 6:53 am

zinger wrote:Waaz has started about 90 minutes ago of which 15 mins wasted on pepple doing salaam, 20 mins on bayan on Burhanuddin maula, and almost 30mins spent on the Tanzanian president and grand mufti speeches.

So when does zikr e Hussain AS happen?

If this same shit is on tomorrow then I'm not coming :evil:

Kothari stooges, please pass this message on to the guys in dar es salam. Clean up your act or this goes on Facebook :x
If he is the true Dai, would one threaten to post criticism on Facebook in order to get his act straight? What type of a mockery of Deen is this?

The true Dai is doing Dawat, as his predecessors did. The choice to answer is on each individual soul.

https://youtu.be/G2uicfV2rXM



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Re: Bohra Muharram 2016 and related topics

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Unread post by way2go » Sat Oct 08, 2016 8:47 am

zinger wrote:Waaz has started about 90 minutes ago of which 15 mins wasted on pepple doing salaam, 20 mins on bayan on Burhanuddin maula, and almost 30mins spent on the Tanzanian president and grand mufti speeches.

So when does zikr e Hussain AS happen?

If this same shit is on tomorrow then I'm not coming :evil:

Kothari stooges, please pass this message on to the guys in dar es salam. Clean up your act or this goes on Facebook :x
Advice Zingerbhai.....Go for Waaz in the morning, swipe your ITS card, go home and then see/ listen to Fatemi Dawat waaz on YouTube in the evening on your mobile or on your smart TV. Your conscience will be clear that you listened to a sensible waaz and proper Gham e Husain bayaan.
I have been following their waaz regularly and privately in the confines of my home and can say that MS and TF waaz and are two.poles apart.



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Re: Bohra Muharram 2016 and related topics

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Unread post by zinger » Sat Oct 08, 2016 9:49 am

way2go wrote:
zinger wrote:Waaz has started about 90 minutes ago of which 15 mins wasted on pepple doing salaam, 20 mins on bayan on Burhanuddin maula, and almost 30mins spent on the Tanzanian president and grand mufti speeches.

So when does zikr e Hussain AS happen?

If this same shit is on tomorrow then I'm not coming :evil:

Kothari stooges, please pass this message on to the guys in dar es salam. Clean up your act or this goes on Facebook :x
Advice Zingerbhai.....Go for Waaz in the morning, swipe your ITS card, go home and then see/ listen to Fatemi Dawat waaz on YouTube in the evening on your mobile or on your smart TV. Your conscience will be clear that you listened to a sensible waaz and proper Gham e Husain bayaan.
I have been following their waaz regularly and privately in the confines of my home and can say that MS and TF waaz and are two.poles apart.
That's what I do on work days. I cant leave my work and go... One of the reasons i have become Persona non grata

And for those who are fearful of their its card not being scanned, don't worry guys, I've been going for weekends only since the last 4 to 5 years now. Nothing happens. No one asks or says anything