Bohra Ramzan 2017 And Related Topics

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Moiz_Dhaanu
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Re: Bohra Ramzan 2017 And Related Topics

#31

Unread post by Moiz_Dhaanu » Sun Jun 11, 2017 8:08 pm

Yesterday 200 mumineens of taiyabi mohalla were not able to pray namaaz and were deprived of qadambosi of DMBS(Dawedaar Mufaddal Bhai Saheb)despite having qadambosi pass

Today those members got in argument with the amil saheb of sattad
Taiyebi Masjid sattad na mumineen ane mumenaat aje evening ma shehzada Husainbhaisaheb D.M.misak ni Majlis ma tashreef lavse. sagla si request che ke misaak baad foran shehzada saheb ne jumma na incident ni araz karwani che. Baheno si iltemas che mardo ni shafakat chalti hoi tyaarej mardo ni Masjid ma haazir ane Tanzeem na membero ye je partiality kari che yeh araz karsu. SAGLA SI ARAZ CHE KE SAATH AAPE. request to forward to all staying in sattad
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gulam_parinda
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#32

Unread post by gulam_parinda » Wed Jun 14, 2017 4:42 am

Sab jamaat members/ salwaat takseem committee members ka har step par commission he or is wajah se vendor kuch bhi supply kar deta he...Even kai baar to already dead chicken bhi supply kar dete he..Kuch saal pahle sihori baatne ka jo natak chalu hua tha us waqt bhi sarwar brand mumbai ke expired mix fruit jam distribute kar diye they...Logo ke shikayat karne par unhi packs par purani date hata kar nayi date laga kar wapas takseem kar diye gaye...Or foolish logo ne le bhi liye...
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think
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#33

Unread post by think » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:20 am

This isold news. Serving expired products is very common in Karachi jamaats. I know one in shabbirabad who has his own little grocery store across the A block bohri masjid. Every thing he cannot sell in his store and i has expired , the jamaat buys it and of course he is one of the members of the committee. some time back he sold expired sherbat bottles to the jamaat. No wonder these type of guys do not want to speak up about any wrong doings of the system.



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#34

Unread post by AgnosticIndian » Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:09 pm

A bunch of covers were given today. Najwa, FMB, Silat ul Imam, Mohammedi scheme and one or two more to be given filled with money and given on jagwani raat.



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#35

Unread post by allbird » Fri Jun 16, 2017 4:44 am

Yes this is world wide phenomena happening you forgot Nazrul Mukam. Which was part of your Wajebaat now its separated out. However this was not mentioned that please pay wajebaat amount minus Nazrul Mukam this came up as surprise. Now they are DOUBLE DIPPING on Nazrul Mukam amounts. Low Lifes....

Now i will not give Nazrul Mukam twice but will personally donate to needy



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#36

Unread post by Moiz_Dhaanu » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:48 am

One more gem from the "khazaana " of Muffaddali bohras of Karachi Jamaat khanaa....
Now kasre-aali will spin the lie for Indian Abdes .."Muffy mola Tamara si naaraz chhe ..etle tamaari dua 'Indian win' ni na sunai" :mrgreen:
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Maqbool
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#37

Unread post by Maqbool » Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:30 am

Forwarded as received:
આલી કદર,
આ શું ચાલી રહ્યું છે! રૂપિયા પાછલ નું આ પાગલ પણ તમને ક્યા લઇ જશે?

ઝકાત શબ્દ ને બદલી વાજેબાત કરી ને ખુદા નો હક હજમ કરવા નો કીમીયો, ભોલાભાલા વહોરા બકરા ઓને તમે છેતરી શકસો પણ ખુદાને શું જવાબ આપશો? વોહરો ઓને કબર નો ખોફ વારેગરી બતાવો છો, શું તમને તેનો ખોફ નથી? કે પછી તમે જાનો છો કે જહન્મ કે જન્નત જેવું કંઇજ નથીં. ભોલાભાલા વહોરાઓ ને વશ માં કરી ને ધરમનો ધંધો કરી રહ્યાં છો.

તમારા આમીલો પણ રૂપિયા પાછલ તમારી સાથે હોદ માં છે. તમને ૫૦ આપીને ૫૦ પોતાના પણ બનાવી લે છે.

જકાત જરૂરતમંદ માટે છે તે જગ જાહીર છે. પણ તમે અને તમારા આમીલ જરૂરતમંદ પાસેથી પણ વાજેબાત વસુલ કરો છો. મુઆસાદના નામે થોડા રૂપીયા આ જરૂરતમંદો ને આપીને છેતરી રહ્યાં છો. પાછલ થી ફરી પાછા અપલીફ્મેનટ ના નામે વઘું રૂપીયા વહોરા પાસેથી ઓકાવી તમારા નામથી જાને બહું મોતા દાનવીર હોઇ એમ દાન ઘરમ કરો છો. કોઇ બીજાનો ઊપકાર પોતાના નામ થી આપવો એ કુરાન ના હીસાબે તો મોહતા ગુના છે, પરંતુ માનવતા ની દ્રષતીએ પણ ચોરી છે. આ વાત તમે અને તમારા આમીલ ભલીભાતી જાણો છો પણ રૂપીયા નો લોભ એવો છે કે માનવતાવાદ થી પણ અંધા બની ગયા છો.

અંઘા ઘુન્ઘ સલામ, વાજેબાત, ગલ્લા ના રૂપીયા, હદીયત વગેરે થી થતી આવક એટલી વઘી છે કે એને કેમ સાચવવી એની પેરવી માં તમે વઘું ને વઘું નીચે ઉતરતા જાવછો. ગયા વરસે આફ્રીકા માં અસરા એનો ઉદાહરણ છે. ફક્ત કોમને ચુશી ને ભેગા કરેલા રૂપીયા ને શગેવગે કરવા આકા હુશેન ને પણ તમે મોહરા બનાવી દીધા. આફ્રીકાના ભ્રષટ રાજકારણી ઓને અઝાદારી ની મજલીશ મા બોલાવી મજલીશ ની તોહીન કરી. વહોરા ઓ ને પ્રવાશ ની મજામાં એવા અતવાવી દીધા કે હ્યુશેન ના ગમ ને ભુલી ને જલશા અને તમારી વાહવાઇ મા લાગી ગયાં. આ મુરખો એવા વસ માં છે કે સચ્ચાઇ આખો ના સામને હોવા છતાં ભરમ માં જીવી રહ્યા છે.

એફ એમ બી ના નામ પર પણ સારો ભરમ ઉભો કરયો છે. એક બાજુ રોટી ઘરમાં બનાવવી જોઇ યે એમ વોહરા ઓ ને સમજાવો છો, અને બીજી બાજુ થાલી લેવા મજબુર કરો છો! તે પણ બઘા વોહરા પોતાના ખરચે! પાછો ઉપકાર પોતાના નામ ઉપર, મોલા ની થાલી. સાથે મોઝીઝા નું ભરમ અલગ. ફુડ પોઇઝન થાય તો બધુ દબાવી દેવાનું. મુરખ વોહરાઓ ભરમ મા એટલા ભરમાઇ ગયા છેં એટલુ યે સમજાટુ નથી કે ઘર મા બનેલું ખાણું વઘુ પોષતીક હોઇ કે જમાતખાનાનુ.! ફુડ પોઇઝનના કેટલા એ બનાવ પછી પણ આખ ન ખોલે એને શુ. કહેવું?

આખીર માં એકજ વાત. રૂપીયા ની મોહમાયા છોડો. ઘણુ ભેગું કર્યુ. હવે ભોળિયા વોહરાઓને છોરો. જેનો હક છે તેને આપો. કફન પણ અહીંજ સડી જશે કઇ સાથે નહી જાય. ભોલા ભાલા ઓનું ઇમ્તીહાન ન લો. ભુતકાલે ઘણા ને પછાડીયા છે. ગેબી લાકડી નો અવાજ હોતો નથી.



Human_KW
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#38

Unread post by Human_KW » Wed Jun 28, 2017 4:39 am

Hello Friends,

Its been long since my last post -

Recently I heard in Kuwait from Janaab who visited for Ramazan saying Our Dai is only the Imam and we people cant see it because of our Gunaah.

Hes from Panjatan as welll, How can he claim this ? can someone from Kuwait reconfirm all this



think
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#39

Unread post by think » Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:37 am

common sense will inform you that he can never be from panjetan paak. His ancestors are from India and Allah only knows which of the four cast systems his ancestry belonged to.One thing for certain ,the brahman cast which is the top cast enjoyed all the richness of the hindu religion.



kimanumanu
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#40

Unread post by kimanumanu » Wed Jun 28, 2017 12:19 pm

Human_KW wrote:
Wed Jun 28, 2017 4:39 am
Hello Friends,

Its been long since my last post -

Recently I heard in Kuwait from Janaab who visited for Ramazan saying Our Dai is only the Imam and we people cant see it because of our Gunaah.

Hes from Panjatan as welll, How can he claim this ? can someone from Kuwait reconfirm all this
This was mentioned by the blogger going by name Saif53 as follows: (reference http://qutbibohras.blogspot.com/2015/01 ... -real.html)

From Amatullah Aisaheba's QR FATHER:

Syedna Mufaddal TUS > Amatullah Aisaheba QR > (father) > Abdulhusain BS > Taher Bs > Ratan Aisaheba > Sh Saleh Mohammed > Sh Rehmat Ali > Wali Mohammed > Meer Jafar Khan > Meer Hasan Khan > Meer Mahabat Ali Khaan > (father) Meer Mahamid Ali Khaan > Meer Hamid Ali Khan > [lineage continues to] Imam Jafar al Sadiq AS > Imam Zayn al Abedeen AS > Imam Husain AS > Moulana Ali AS, Moulatena Fatema AS, Rasulullah SAW

So everything is possible in the kothari world.



Maqbool
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#41

Unread post by Maqbool » Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:52 am

think
"One thing for certain ,the brahman cast which is the top cast enjoyed all the richness of the hindu religion."

Probably it is right. The brahmins are beggars. Always asking for money. :D



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#42

Unread post by allbird » Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:44 am

From Amatullah Aisaheba's QR FATHER:

Syedna Mufaddal TUS > Amatullah Aisaheba QR > (father) > Abdulhusain BS > Taher Bs > Ratan Aisaheba > Sh Saleh Mohammed > Sh Rehmat Ali > Wali Mohammed > Meer Jafar Khan > Meer Hasan Khan > Meer Mahabat Ali Khaan > (father) Meer Mahamid Ali Khaan > Meer Hamid Ali Khan > [lineage continues to] Imam Jafar al Sadiq AS > Imam Zayn al Abedeen AS > Imam Husain AS > Moulana Ali AS, Moulatena Fatema AS, Rasulullah SAW

So everything is possible in the kothari world.

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From the Shajaraah it seems like most of the forefathers are Afghan immigrants, these bloody Pathans are ruling gullible bohras or us Hindu lower class bhangis / brahamins ?

If i was to reproduce my Shajarah it would lead to Moula Adam AS easy. By manufacturing this type of Shajaraah MS is trying to prove that he the rightful owner and selected for seat of Dai Zaman and not Daweedaar AKA SKQ.

Kaale Kutte ka bhai safeed Kutta



think
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#43

Unread post by think » Thu Jun 29, 2017 10:50 am

no chance of tracing lineage upto adam alehesalam. The whole world drowned in the time of Noah alhesalam.
coming back to tracing his lineage upto panjetan pak, rest assured the abdes and amtes are overjoyed. they will believe anything said.



Moiz_Dhaanu
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#44

Unread post by Moiz_Dhaanu » Mon Jul 03, 2017 8:16 am

This circulation/farmaan has come out.
DMBS administration realizes this torture on 26th Sherullah (after the money collection is over) ? Such sincerity indeed!..It seems like kothar first slaps you and then DMBS comes and pacifies you..and the Abdes start going 'Mola mola Muffy Mola'
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#45

Unread post by Moiz_Dhaanu » Mon Jul 03, 2017 8:22 am

Audio for above farmaan is also available from Kothar..here it is
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#46

Unread post by allbird » Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:36 am

If this farman is true, i hope i get my tax refunds soon. I was charged Ikraam Salaam, Raza saheb demanded we do SALAM WITH COVER, and i was refused wajebaat if salaam of sadatul kiram ( no fecking idea this is for) is not done.
In Our bohra Dawat, money is one way ticket. This knowledge what i was born with.

However
If i get refunds then i will be in first row yelling on top of my voice MOULA MOULA MUFADDAL (Refunds) MOULA.



think
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#47

Unread post by think » Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:46 pm

That will be cheap on your part considering you are selling yourself based on getting refund. The whole progressive movement is based on the principle of fairness and accountability.



Moiz_Dhaanu
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#48

Unread post by Moiz_Dhaanu » Sun Jul 09, 2017 12:47 am

Different reactions across different jamats ..when people encountered the aamils to get their mony back after ramzan collection farmaan.....enjoy the the tamasha in Mufaddali circus ;)
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#49

Unread post by Biradar » Sun Jul 09, 2017 10:11 pm

Another example of Muffy's schizophrenia. First, he instructs his aamils and agents to loot, loot and loot, and then he tells them return a little! Every event he wants his sheep to contribute to this and that scheme. Every, single, event. Now, all of a sudden he wants to return 0.00001% of the loot. I wonder if he suffering from early onset dementia.

BTW: I don't blame local jamaats who are unable to fulfill this latest fatwaa from Muffy. They likely spent all the money, or shipped it off to Kothari coffers already. How are they supposed to return money!? The responsibility lies with the central organization and they should send people refund cheques if they are really serious.



Human_KW
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#50

Unread post by Human_KW » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:32 am

Can someone find out who the person is who is sending out the audio and giving warnings about exposing salmiya jamaat members



think
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#51

Unread post by think » Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:27 am

enjoyed the audio clips. The mumineen are realizing the high handedness of this mulla who is comfortably seated on the chair. The charge that mumineen should not be charged for masallah spaced in the house of Allah is very fair. More power to these mumineens. The first step is most difficult and I hope they fight for other major descrepenses in the system. Zakaat is also not their right. It should be given first to the poor and needy relatives , then to the orphans and widows, and not filling the pockets of this mulla who probably has ammassed more wealth in a very short period of time than the mumineen who is toiling away to save some for his family and future.