Tragedy in Mumbai: A Building Collapses

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Tragedy in Mumbai: A Building Collapses

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Unread post by Ozdundee » Thu Aug 31, 2017 3:43 pm

Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi raji'un

Sad to know that our brothers and sisters lost lives.

Let us come together in support to offer prayers and help.



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Unread post by Reporter » Thu Aug 31, 2017 4:50 pm

Mumbai Building Collapses Killing 24, Was Declared Unsafe 6 Years Ago
Smoke rose from the ruins. Desperate relatives of those trapped pleaded with rescuers to help find their loved ones after getting phone calls from trapped survivors.

http://www.ndtv.com/mumbai-news/three-s ... ed-1744236



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#3

Unread post by Shk Mohammed Yamani » Thu Aug 31, 2017 5:36 pm

DOWN WITH QAEED CHORS SBUT PROJECT.
Both brothers, Muffy and hes chor head of the SBUT project, QJBS *Quid Johny* are busy in making last minute venue deals with big Jamaats about where should the next Moharram Tamasha be held, even though Colombo have already been declared the venue that will make 1 million doĺlars a day income for the Muffy gang and hes chor family... and yet no messege of Dua from the so called ilahul ard God Muffy for the victims of this awful tragedy.
My messege to the Saifee Mahal Qasre Mawali families, how do you guys sleep at night? Don't you have any conscience on you? you have blood on your dirty hands that you cover with rumaal all the time ... shame on you..tomorrow, you bhikharis will be busy eating bakra no ghosh and celebrating Eid whilst these poor moominin will be crying tears of blood.

My sincere condolonces to the families of all those who lost their lives today.

Aaje Mumbai Aa Saghla Guzari Gaya
Sakina Lightwala age 26
Murtaza Lightwala age 32
Amatullah Lightwala age 3
Burhanuddin Lightwala age 6
Alefiya Lightwala age 25
Rashida Lightwala age 58
Ibrahim Lightwala age 22



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#4

Unread post by Ozdundee » Fri Sep 01, 2017 4:04 am

Has Muffy or STF sent a response or made a public statement.

Apart from obligatory prayers we should not be celebrating Eid when so many people are dead or injured

This is the single biggest tragedy in our community.

I would expect our Sayedna to be in the ruins helping.



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Unread post by think » Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:02 am

Heard Mr. Mufaddal was personally there for kafan and dafan of the departed souls and prayed over the coffins. He weeped for the families and the only survivor child was admitted to the jamia.



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Unread post by SBM » Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:33 pm

Jiten Makhija, who sells rexine out of a ground-floor shop in Mansoor Manzil, right behind Hussaini Manzil, said the biggest concern of residents who have refused to move to transit camps is that SBUT is offering only a casual three-page agreement. "In any re-development project, you know the exact location you will be placed once the building is ready. This is what a permanent agreement means. We can't leave our shops with simple threepage temporary agreement that SBUT is offering. We need some kind of security. The project is on a 16-acre land and I need to have a ground floor shop. What if I am placed on the 1st floor in another cluster?" he asked.

Another resident who did not wish to be identified said while the Hussaini Manzil tragedy has shaken everyone, residents of neighbouring buildings that are equally old and unstable may still refuse to leave because of the risk involved in accepting SBUT agreements. "Our building falls in the same cluster as Hussaini Manzil. We are all part of sector eight (of Bhendi Bazaar cluster development). SBUT started the redevelopment project seven years ago, but they haven't even been able to wrap up work in cluster 1 yet," he said.

A resident of Punjab Mahal, a couple of blocks away from Hussaini Manzil, said his family has not accepted the SBUT agreement because moving to Chuna Bhatti transit camp is just not acceptable to him. "My daughter studies in a school in Colaba and we can't even think of shifting to a place in Chunabhatti. Every parent is worried about his child's future. And we don't even know for how long will be have to stay there," he said.

Murtaza Tinwala, a resident of Sardharia Building, part of cluster 1, said the residents fought hard for permanent agreements but failed. "Everyone wants this security and it is our right. Under the guise of our uplift, our rights should not be taken away. I was forced to move out of my building as it was declared dilapidated, but there are several others who are trying to withstand the pressure."
https://mumbaimirror.indiatimes.com/mum ... 316316.cms



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#7

Unread post by Ozdundee » Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:49 pm

Abdes and Amtes this tragedy is really serious. I don't want to politicize it.

The fate is in Allah mercy. However we can only reflect.

This happened in vicinity of the tombs of STS and SMB . Allah controls fate more than the fictitious mojiza.

But what is mind blowing is level of neglect and lack of concern amongst kothar , the FD or even general bohras worldwide outside the affected area.

No announcement emails or sorrow. I asked Mumbai people on Eid night and they were like roj kai kai thatu hoi.

Brothers and sisters this attitude shows to culturally there is no humanity left. If it was FMB , Ohbat or Bushra Mola relay car loads megaphone and trumpets. But when common people suffer...life goes.

This Dainess has caused non irreversible cultural mutation.



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Unread post by Maqbool » Sat Sep 02, 2017 2:57 am

This message is viral in bohra circle.

"Muffadal moula tus ajab rehmat na moula che. Apye aje savare je lightwala family ne rescue operation ma si nikala aloko na janaza par namaaz paravi. Teen farzando na kafan par hath firavi dua farmavi. Ane je family yesterday raate guzri gaya yeh na dafan ma moula charni rd padhara. Chashma wala family ni je ek dikri baki che yene jamea ma dakhil thava nu farman kidu. 300 ghar je bhendi bazaar ma khasta halata ma che yeh ne khali kari shift karva na immediate farman kida. Moula ghana roya ane dil ghanu bhari. Magar sabar karayu family members ne. Sagla mumeenen ne zahir ma ane akhirat ma moula yeh janaat ma pochavi dida.
Aa rehmat na saheb moula muffadal tus ni umar shareef ne ta roze qayamat daraas karjo.
Aameen."

Has moula offered any shelter to the survived?
He has ordered to resident of 300 building to vacate. can he provide shelter to them in near surroundings and give an assurance backed by legal documents that they will be provided permanent housing in this locality in guaranteed time bound period?

7 years has passed not a single building has come up. shaen between roza and masjid is completed. They have now demolished many buildings and could have constructed few buildings and has given accommodation to those who are living in transit area.

They have priority of shen but not the people living in transit camps.

NDTV has made 2 programs on SUBT and have praised the SUBT but they have not contacted these 300 buildings resident. these resident must have problems and difficulties. Why no one have bothered to highlight this. NDTV is a reputable channel and why they are sold out?



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Unread post by SBM » Sat Sep 02, 2017 9:17 am

"Muffadal moula tus ajab rehmat na moula che. Apye aje savare je lightwala family ne rescue operation ma si nikala aloko na janaza par namaaz paravi. Teen farzando na kafan par hath firavi dua farmavi. Ane je family yesterday raate guzri gaya yeh na dafan ma moula charni rd padhara
Hidden in this KARAM of Moula: there is a hidden agenda
Both Chasmawala and Arsiwala families are very rich and had done Ziyafats for the Moula
Lightwala family had an Aamil
Rashida Lightwala is the sister of Shaikh Yunus Udaipurwala, who is the manager of the iconic Raudat Tahera Mausoleum in Bhendi Bazaar, according to the Anjuman-e-Shiate Ali, the official Dawoodi Bohra website. This is where the late Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin was buried alongside his father in 2014.
WOULD MOULA DO THE SAME FOR THE ORDINARY BOHRA. WHERE WAS HE WHEN MANY ORDINARY BOHRAS DIED DURING THE FUNERAL PROCESSION OF SMB?



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Unread post by byculla » Sun Sep 03, 2017 7:56 am

http://www.firstpost.com/india/mumbai-b ... 95855.html

MHADA blames SBUT

MHADA held the Saifee Burhani Upliftment Trust (SBUT) responsible for the building collapse.

The SBUT, run by the Bohra community, was granted the rights to redevelop a cluster of old buildings in the area, including the collapsed building.

"We had in 2011 given the NOC for redevelopment of the building and we had been constantly pursuing the issue. We have all the papers and information with us regarding it," MHADA chief public relations officer Vaishali Wagh told local news channels.

She said MHADA had been constantly conveying to the families it was a "dangerous" building and that it had also apprised the SBUT of the risk.

Asked about the process MHADA follows once a building is declared unfit for housing, she said, "In technical processes, once we give an NOC for redevelopment, all further responsibilities lie with the developer."

"Then all further processes and action has to be taken by the developer (SBUT). We had in 2016 given permission to the SBUT to demolish the structure as this building posed a risk." — PTI




Bhendi Bazaar building collapse: SBUT or MHADA, who is to blame for incident in Mumbai?

A MHADA document reveals that authorities were warned about the building's dilapidated status in 2011. The observations were made during a pre-monsoon survey six years ago. The notice recommended that the premises should be evacuated immediately under Chapter 8 of the Maharashtra Housing and Area Development Act, 1976.

The notice also mentions that if the clauses of the MHADA warning notice were not obeyed, the residents would be "forcibly evicted" with the help of the police and the fire brigade. The document explicitly mentions that MHADA "will not be responsible for any loss of life and property situated in the said premises... This (eviction) must be brought to the notice of all occupants," the notice added.

However, advocate Dilip Shah mentions that "the overall liability is significantly higher for developers". The building is part of the Saifee Burhani Upliftment Trust (SBUT) cluster development project. The SBUT says that the authorities are "on-ground to provide complete support to families and authorities".



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Unread post by Ozdundee » Sun Sep 03, 2017 5:27 pm

SBM it seems the Kothar publicity crew responsible for what's app broadcast is now listening and reading . Their response is interesting..."family ne rescue operation ma si nikala "...i can imagine

The Burhani Gaurds parachuted into ground zero...helmets, head lamps, precision dust masks...2 hands reached out remember operation Paris....

What else. .the publicity crews will be watching every Bollywood and HBO movie for dramatics for Muffy...



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Unread post by ajamali » Thu Sep 07, 2017 11:19 pm

Based on whatsapp messages from friends and family of the deceased who are known to me, I have pieced together the following:

Abbas Chashmawala had bought an apartment in 2015. He asked Muffy For raza to move to his new apartment and he was told to rent it out and continue living in mohalla!!

Muffy had visited the building for ziyafats during Ramadan. Some supports were removed for his visit and they were never put back!

Three months later the building collapsed.

What is wrong with this man?! He has blood on his hands. How does he sleep at night?



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Unread post by dal-chaval-palidu » Thu Sep 07, 2017 11:55 pm

SBM wrote:
Sat Sep 02, 2017 9:17 am
"Muffadal moula tus ajab rehmat na moula che. Apye aje savare je lightwala family ne rescue operation ma si nikala aloko na janaza par namaaz paravi. Teen farzando na kafan par hath firavi dua farmavi. Ane je family yesterday raate guzri gaya yeh na dafan ma moula charni rd padhara
Hidden in this KARAM of Moula: there is a hidden agenda
Both Chasmawala and Arsiwala families are very rich and had done Ziyafats for the Moula
Lightwala family had an Aamil
Rashida Lightwala is the sister of Shaikh Yunus Udaipurwala, who is the manager of the iconic Raudat Tahera Mausoleum in Bhendi Bazaar, according to the Anjuman-e-Shiate Ali, the official Dawoodi Bohra website. This is where the late Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin was buried alongside his father in 2014.
WOULD MOULA DO THE SAME FOR THE ORDINARY BOHRA. WHERE WAS HE WHEN MANY ORDINARY BOHRAS DIED DURING THE FUNERAL PROCESSION OF SMB?

I was also wondering related to what brother ajamali said: If these people are so very well off, why are they living in such an unsafe building?

Sad story if accurate. Inna illahi wa inna ilahe warajihoon.



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Unread post by ajamali » Fri Sep 08, 2017 12:53 am

dal-chaval-palidu wrote:
Thu Sep 07, 2017 11:55 pm

I was also wondering related to what brother ajamali said: If these people are so very well off, why are they living in such an unsafe building?

Sad story if accurate. Inna illahi wa inna ilahe warajihoon.
Abbas Chashmawala was a devout servant of Muffy. He did not move to his new apartment because he did not get raza from his Moula. That's why he continued to live in his mohalla building. Not sure what the reason was for the Lightwalas to continue living there. Could be a simple attachment to their home.



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Unread post by byculla » Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:01 am

Forwarded as recd.


The silence of the maharastra state government .

Lawleness is prevailing and the state govt is silently watching human rights being trampled and discrimination by the bohra community towards the muslims .the jargonised self developent of sbut in the name of development for all has closed two lanes in their cluster one but what benefit did it give to the local residents of the area other than the bohra community ,the bohra shrine was expanded and the bohra masjid got expanded and other muslims those who have to go to offer prayers in handiwala masjid and dhan wadi masjid in saifee jubilee street have to walk a half circle to reach the mosque ,the above isnt a discrimination ?
Tenants in the ongoing cluster were given transit 7 years ago and that very cluster is still not ready as per sbut officials they are saying that by 2019 we will rehabilitate the tenants 10 years for a single cluster than how many years for 9 clusters?...on the ill fated day 31st august a building collapsed in pakmodia street which is in the sbut cluster development project and sbut is also the landlord of that building .just three months before the bohra spiritual leader visited one bohra house as called ziyafat during his welcome the supports in the building was removed and after the visit it was not put again .as per mhada in 2011 a notice was issued then why did the sbut rented the ground floor godown to tawakkal sweets in which they removed three foundations and also put up a "bhatti " the ill fated building falls in the last cluster ,now using this pretext the sbut in connivinance with engineers are trying to tag these buildings as dilapilated and get these tenants out from their project and are sending them to chuna bhatti which is more than 13 kms from their homes .is there any law which allows to send the tenants in transit so far? how will their kids go to school and men will come to their offices and shops to work ,doesnt this will jeopardise their life and as assessed seeing the development of the present cluster which is taking ten years for one cluster till when will the cluster 8 tenants will be rehabilated to their homes?in the above condition one can imagine who will be willingto go for so far transit in which one generation of their will be effected very badly. Isnt it human rights violation ?sbut is not willing to arrange near by transit as per law ,neither giving to give rent ,nor willing to repair the buildings .since the start of this project mhada has handed over all responsibilities to them and if they cant shoulder the responsibility of mhada they should give that back to mhada back .as per some tenants sbut is neither willing to give transit nearby nor willing to give rent and neither willing to repair and above all in this insecured situation is neither giving a court registered agreement .one can imagine then how can a tenant have trust on a private developer .the height of helplessness is that the state government and concerned departments are passive to these issues and not a single case has been registered even after 4 days of that tragic incident in which 31 lives were lost in which many families were wiped out totally .mr chief minister where is RERA and what effect does it has and where are the flag bearers of human rights and where are the sloganeers of sab ka saath sab ka vikas .



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Unread post by Reporter » Sat Sep 09, 2017 10:32 am

Posting as received by Asgar Vassanwala:


youtu.be/qW7PsxmC1O4

Please watch this video. It took lot of time and efforts compiling various aspects of this tragedy. In India we do not have dearth of Ram-Rahim Babas, Ashram Bapus, Gurus, and Syednas. The culprit of tragedy is white clad Bohra chief Syedna Mufaddal and his greedy family, who started this money-making scheme SBUT and used poor Bhindi Bazar residents as pawns. They never thought that Bhindi Bazar-Nal Bazar are law lying areas and flood with little rain. Rising ocean temperature will cause huge cyclones and torrential rain that will play havoc in low lying areas. Bohra religious leader boast knowing what happens after death but is ignorant about climate change and its havoc. He says to Bohras, "Pray Mola Burhanuddin, cry Azan, do matam (chest beating), and my father's angels will stop cyclone or bring rain" Gullible Bohras believe that. Following is the story of the building collapse tragedy.

The loss of 35 lives in collapse of a 5-floor Huseni Building, Bhendi Bazar, on August 31st is a harrowing tragedy. The Building was in SBUT Re-development, owned by Syedna Mufaddal. While I sympathize with the victims, I am angry at corrupt Government officials who under Syedna Burhanuddin and Syedna Mufaddal draconian pressure did not allow repairing and let them deteriorate more and more.
The supreme culprit of the tragedy is Syedna Mufaddal’s once very powerful uncle late Yusuf Najmuddin AKA YN. When Syedna Taher Saifuddin, who was suffering from a mysterious disease, died in Matheran in 1965, instead of burying him there according to Islamic tradition, YN brought his father’s body to Mumbai. YN was very greedy like his father and forefathers. He thought, if his father Syedna Taher Saifuddin was buried in crowded Mumbai, where lakhs of Bohras live, the tomb would mint money. For making tomb space, he demolished precious existing Bohra masjid cum community center of Bhendi Bazar and flattened grave of philanthropist Kagalwala. It was done in so much hurry, bribing Municipal official that the grave is on existing sewage system. They built an expensive Mausoleum in this Bhendi Bazar slum area. If YN were not too greedy and had buried Syedna Taher Saifuddin Matheran, where he died, it would have become a Bohra tourist center with big open spaces and guest houses.

Anyway, to right the wrong, Syedna clan AKA Kothar, started forced evictions by blackmailing Bohras residents of Bhendi Bazar buildings who were given pittance as compensation. Kothar established a Syedna owned \ Saifee Burhani Upliftment Trust (SBUT) in 2009. Kothar’s main goal is to raze Tyebi and other front buildings and make the mausoleum visible from Ibrahim Rehmatullah Road for their bragging rights
એક મોલા ને અપની દોલત કા સહારા લેકર
કબરોં કે લિયે ઝીંદા લોગોં કો કિયા હે બે ઘર

Ek Mola ne apni dolat ka sahara le kar
QabroN ke liye zinda logoN ko kiya hai be-gahr

ایک مولا نے اپنی دولت کا سہارا لے کر
قبروں کے لئے زندہ لوگوں کو کیا ہے بے گہر

Despite draconian pressure, many non-Bohras and few Bohras did not move. They are now being harassed in different ways: cut electricity, cut water, cut sewage system in collusion with Municipal officers, put constantly terrorizing goonda next to their apartment/room/shop, pouring acid and corrosive chemicals in foundations, incite Bohra Shabab group to harass defying tenants where ever they go, invalidate Jamat e-jamatcard and stop them going to Ziyarat, hajj, tiffin, etc. not able to apply for Qardan Hasna loan. I had about 90 minuet telephone interview of a poor Bohra woman Nafisa Masalawalla, who was being evicted by Syedna’s thugs from Bhendi Bazar building. I have posted this long interview on my YouTube Channel. Please click following links and listen to them. You would understand how death of Syedna Taher Saifuddin and stupidity of Yusuf Najmuddin has ruined lives of lakhs of residents of Bhendi Bazar. Kothar says Syedna Taher Saifuddin and Syedna Buhrhanuddin have millions of Angels (Farishta) at their command and Syedna will hold hands of Bohras and enter them into Jannat, irrespective of their sins. Such junk talks stink.


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Burhanuddin Mola Farishta will help.

In spite of all these harassments of building dwellers, I do not think the project will ever come to life. SBUT still has no construction permission. The high rise buildings architects have not planned open-to-sky playgrounds for children. The planning commission is not accepting indoor playground; they want playgrounds to be open to sky. Because of land constraint, it is impossible to construct the project. There are no other playgrounds in the area.

By bribing and applying political influence with BJP and RSS, if the project is ever completed, it would be a biggest windfall since Mumbai came into existence and it will fall Syedna and his family’s lap. Syedna will not pay any tax on their income because it will be hidden in loopholes of his Trust. Imagine for how much they will sell business shops, offices, and top floor penthouses to rich Bohras from overseas.
Those Bohras who lost their rooms and chawls and are displaced will get nothing. Those who left under pressure are living unsure lives in Government provided buildings in Shivri/Wadala etc. Besides, SBUT project is almost impossible due to logistics. Bringing construction materials in this crowded Bhendi Bazar is very tough; the ground soil in Bhendi Bazar is unstable; bringing water and electricity is a challenge; flooding is a growing problem; fire on top floors will be impossible to smother. Even after another 20 years the project may not come into existence. Each passing day and continuous climate change will make it harder and harder. The best way out is Kothar should exhume bodies of their fathers and relocate in a different place. They still can use existing marble cladding at new location.

Bohras sing Mola Mola, but they do not comprehend that members of Syedna family are all robbers. Bohras are running after their fake promise of Jannat. In today’s lies and propaganda war, Syedna, Trump, Modi, etc. shine. Syedna has added advantage. He says Dai is infallible; he can hold hand and take Bohras into Jannat; his father Syedna Burhanuddin has army of Farishta; Syednas’ pictures can roll tears; Bohra money just pours in; there is no credible challenge to him. Trump and Modi cannot top that.

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Aa Chashmawala family no aalishaan flat hato mohalla si thodo dur pan MOLA ye flat bhada par aapi ne mohalla ma j rehwanu farmayu, & bhai to MOLA na Gulam, abde syedna. Emaj amal karu, mohalla ma j juni building ma rahya, Ramazan ma Ziyafat pan aapi, Mola na paak kadam pan thaya aa building ma pan MOJIZO NA THAYO, BUILDING PADI GAI & ketla momino guzri gaya. MOLA MOLA MUFADDAL MOLA.

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Mojeza viral karwawala specialists☝🏽 aa photo & moajizo viral karo. Superstitious Mola Mola wala Momino ne zara khabar to padey ke haji 2 mahina pehla je building ma GREAT MOLA 5 floors steps chadhi ne ZIYAFAT ma PADHARA, EHNA SO CALLED PAK KADMO NI BARAKAT SI BUILDING NE NAWAZI, ye BLDG J BADDHI BARKAT KHANKHERI NE JAMINDOST THAI GAI & saathe GREAT MOLA NI RAZA WAGAR KOI AMAL NA KARNAR FAMILIES NE BHARKHI GAI.

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Saifee Burhanuddin Upliftment Trust ne zimma liya tha Cluster Development ka jawaab) SBUT ne cluster development ka zimma Liya tha ye puri duniya ka sabse pehla aur sabse bada cluster development hai.
2) 4 Din guzar gaye abtak koi karwayi kyu nahi hui jawaab) Koi bhi natural disaster related akashmaat per jaldbazi me karwai nahi ho sakti
3) Koi bhi FIR Darj kyu nahi hui jawaab ) fir kab ho jab Koi complaint ho aur us per samnewala ki bhul sabit ho to fir darj ki ja sakti hai
4) JJ Junction-Hussaini Building Collapsed mein 35 log Maare Jaane Walo ki Maut ka Zimmedar Kaun jawaab) kuch had tak Jo waha reh rahe thai un sabhi ko pata tha ki WO immarat khasta haal me hai aur sabhi rehnewalao ko dusri jagah shift hona manzoor nahi tha Madha ya builder gun poin per kisi ko khali nahi kara sakte aur logo ko builder se adhik se adhik fayde lene tha
5) Kyun MHADA NE Section 95a ka use nahi kiya jawab) Madha rule 95a ager istemaal kare to local party's aur aapjese human rights wale aaker pareshaan karta hai
6) Agar building dangerous thi toh waha SBUT ne playgroup ko kyu nahi shift karaya
Jawab) play group SBUT ka nahi tha aur uskeliye Koi SBUT ki permission nahi li gayi thi
7) Agar Dangerous thi toh Spiritual head of the BOHRA community kyu visit kiya karte thae jawab) ye aap ka question relevant hai ya kuch bhi communal angel dene ke liye. Trp gain karna ya SBUT se paise nikalwa ne me kamyaab hone ke liyea aise questions karna
8: SBUT ke bouncers kyu waha stay karte thae. Sawaal yeh uthta hai, FIR kyu darj nahi ho rahi hain jawaab) pehle diya gaya hai Kya hai iska kaaran ??? Doshiyon ko sazaa dene par he insaaf milega Shoeb Shaikh

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International Human Rights Committee for Protection. Aab sawal soeb shaikh se, Kya human rights me aap ho to logo ki madat karne ke liye ya aapni jeb bharne ke liye ager logo ki madad karne ke liye aapka jawab hai to aur bhi 3500 hazar log ushi development me abhi bhi aishi hi kamzor khasta building me rehte hai Jise Madha ne kamzoor bataya hai aur khali karneka notice diya hai, kya aap WO kaam me madad nahi karoge try to karo ye Jo saawal per sawaal karte ho unke jawab miljayenge aapko SBUT ne ek pure area ko sudharne ka zimma Liya hai to kya isse hum SBUT ki bhool Samje ke Koi akashmaat ho to use political ya aap apni popularity keliye ye stunt kare. SBUT ne building girne ke baad kaie logo ko request karke wahase choonabhati ke transit me shift kiya aur bohra dharamguru ki baat Karte ho to ye unka dream project hai aur 300 family's Jo aise makano me rehte hai unhai turant dusre accommodation per shift kiya jaai aur aaj bhi ye project bohra dharam guru ki wajah se kamyab ho raha hai waha base logo ko ek aacha ghar dena unka dream hai WO jarur pura hoga. Log madat kam aur taang ziyada kheechte hai aur shoeb shaikh human rights ke naam per badate ha… Read more

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SBUT ni favour ma malampatti thai rahi che. Aawa gamgeen wakeya ni responsibility lewa na badle haji pan SBUT ni j wahwahi karwani chamchao ni koshish chalu che. SAU SI MOTO SAWAL YE CHE KE BLDG DANGER HATI TO BHI TENANTS ENE KHAALI NOHTA KARTA, DUR JAWA TAYYAR NOHTA PAN JE FAMILY POTANA J BIJA FLAT MA SHIFT THAAWA TAYYAR HATI ENE SBUT NA HEAD, GREAT MOLA YE SU KAAM SHIFT THAWA NI RAZA NA AAPI, YE BLDG MA J REHWANU FARMAYU & PAACHA POTEY YE J BLDG MA YE FAMILY NA GHARE 5 th FLOOR PAR, SIDIO CHADHI NE ZIYAFAT MA PADHARA. KITLO NAJWO LIDHELO ZIYAFAT NO ?

Email #6
I am seeing a lot of messages and videos on WhatsApp and social media about karam and ehsaan of Aqa Maula after the recent building collapse in Mumbai. Now, I don't understand what is karam and ehsaan of Aqa Maula.. That he prayed janaza Namaz of the deceased Momineen.. Well, he is an Islamic leader and that is his duty.. What is so big deal in it...

Also, Dawat-e-Hadiyah earns billions every year through Ziyafat, Qadambosi, Dargah golak, Najwa, Wajebat, salam, misaaq, nikaah etcetra and through 365 days a year demand for money under 1 scheme or another from the followers.. Where is the money going? Why were so many Momineen living in unsafe conditions in that building that eventually collapsed. What is the point of helping the survivors who lost their families and belongings in the tragedy? Dawat is just earning brownie points and doing publicity by showing off that they care!

Email #7
In the building which collapsed in MUMBAI recently, a Bohri FM Chicago had come as a member of the Obud team. This 33 yr old lost his life too. He had come for the work of the Dai Mufaddal Saifuddin with his Raza Mubarak.

I fail to understand why he was told not to come to Mumbai or why was he not saved by our Dai.

Now, I have a feeling that if by any chance this person was Alive and some how rescued, there would have been a big amount of publicity proclaiming the Maujiza of Dai has saved his life.

Why then the Dai is not held responsible for his death? Where is his power of Maujiza?

I now feel the Dai has nothing to do with this, he can neither give us anything nor take anything from us except the forceful cash payments (or you are out of the community). If a pregnant lady goes to the Dai and wants him to give her a son. She wl say it's Allah's will that she got a daughter but if she gets a son she wl say it's Maula who has given this gift. In all cases for all good things that happen, the credit goes to the Dai and for negative aspects It's Allah's will. We hv ourselves forgotten Allah and give all credit for any success to Maula then to Allah. There is so much of preaching for Moula that our minds are completely washed and we think in one direction.

Which goes to prove it is Allah up there who gives wealth and all barakat. The Dai cannot give himself also anything if Allah does not will. Our Dai is just out to make money by pressing us in one way or the other.

New taxes come up at will In the name of Najwatul Shukr, Imam Salam, Karzaney Hasana, and so on. Where is all this money going?
Think before it's too late.

Email #8
Very well said...allah ni marzi wagar zaad nu pattu b nathi hili saktu syedna taher saifuddin na dikra Aliasghar Bhaisaheb kalimuddin ne farazand nathi,m.m na dikra Jafarsadik ne farzand nathi ewa gana che kasre ali ma je loko ne farzand nathi aa ek exampal che agar khuda chahse TOJ farzand thase

Email #9
Lawleness is prevailing and the state government is silently watching human rights being trampled and discrimination by the Bohra community towards the Muslims .the jargonized self-development of SBUT in the name of development for all has closed two lanes in their cluster one but what benefit did it give to the local residents of the area other than the Bohra community ,the bohra shrine was expanded and the Bohra masjid got expanded and other Muslims those who have to go to offer prayers in handiwala masjid and dhan wadi masjid in saifee jubilee street have to walk a half circle to reach the mosque, the above isn’t a discrimination ?

Tenants in the ongoing cluster were given transit 7 years ago and that very cluster is still not ready as per sbut officials they are saying that by 2019 we will rehabilitate the tenants 10 years for a single cluster than how many years for 9 clusters?...on the ill-fated day 31st august a building collapsed in pakmodia street which is in the sbut cluster development project and sbut is also the landlord of that building .just three months before the bohra spiritual leader visited one Bohra house as called Ziyafat during his welcome the supports in the building was removed and after the visit it was not put again .as per mhada in 2011 a notice was issued then why did the sbut rented the ground floor godown to tawakkal sweets in which they removed three foundations and also put up a "bhatti " the ill fated building falls in the last cluster ,now using this pretext the sbut in connivance with engineers are trying to tag these buildings as dilapidated and get these tenants out from their project and are sending them to chuna bhatti which is more than 13 kms from their homes. is there any law which allows to send the tenants in transit so far? how will their kids go to school and men will come to their offices and shops to work, doesn’t this will jeopardize their life and as assessed seeing the development of the present cluster which is taking ten years for one cluster till when will the cluster 8 tenants will be rehabilated to their homes? in the above condition one can imagine who will be willing to go for so far transit in which one generation of their will be effected very badly. Isnt it human rights violation ?sbut is not willing to arrange nearby transit as per law ,neither giving to give rent ,nor willing to repair the buildings .since the start of this project mhada has handed over all responsibilities to them and if they cant shoulder the responsibility of mhada they should give that back to mhada back .as per some tenants sbut is neither willing to give transit nearby nor willing to give rent and neither willing to repair and above all in this insecured situation is neither giving a court registered agreement .one can imagine then how can a tenant have trust on a private developer .the height of helplessness is that the state government and concerned departments are passive to these issues and not a single case has been registered even af… Read more

Email #10
SBUT is planning to make Bhendi Bazaar as a pilgrimage place for Dawoodi Bohra Community. There will not be any place for poor and middle class Bohras in this place. They will not be given back their original abodes after redevelopment. The future Syednas will be buried here and the area will be cordoned off like Deori in Surat. Anybody who has visited Deori near Jhampa Bazaar in 60s and 70s will know what I mean. My half brother had a huge house in Deori. They demolished their building and many other neighbours' buildings and are give rat holes in dilapidated buildings in Begumpura, etc.
God bless them!

Email #11
In the building which collapsed in MUMBAI recently, a Bohri FM Chicago had come as a member of the Obud team. This 33 yr old lost his life too. He had come for the work of the Dai Mufaddal Saiduddin with his Raza Mubarak.
I fail to understand why he was told not to come to Mumbai or why was he not saved by our Dai.
Now, I have a feeling that if by any chance this person was Alive and some how rescued, there would have been a big amount of publicity proclaiming the Maujiza of Dai has saved his life.

Why then the Dai is not held responsible for his death? Where is his power of Mojza?
I now feel the Dai has nothing to do with this, he can neither give us anything nor take anything from us except the forceful cash payments (or you are out of the community).

If a pregnant lady goes to the Dai and wants him to give her a son. She wl say it's Allah's will that she got a daughter but if she gets a son she wl say it's Maula who has given this gift. In all cases for all good things that happen, the credit goes to the Dai and for negative aspects It's Allah's will.

We hv ourselves forgotten Allah and give all credit for any success to Maula then to Allah. There is so much of preaching for Maula that our minds are completely washed and we think in one direction.

which goes to prove it is Allah up there who gives wealth and all barakat. The Dai cannot give himself also anything if Allah does not will. Our Dai is just out to make money by pressing us in one way or the other.
New taxes come up at will In the name of Najwatul Shukr, Imam Salam, Karzaney Hasana, and so on. Where is all this money going?
Think before it's too late



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Unread post by think » Sat Sep 09, 2017 10:45 am

have been preaching this sermon al along it is Allah not this human form.



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Unread post by Moiz_Dhaanu » Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:27 am

Fwd as recieved :
Aa Chashmawala family no aalishaan flat hato mohalla si thodo dur pan MOLA ye flat bhada par aapi ne mohalla ma j rehwanu farmayu, & bhai to MOLA na Gulam, abde syedna. Emaj amal karu, mohalla ma j juni building ma rahya, Ramazan ma Ziyafat pan aapi, Mola na paak kadam pan thaya aa building ma pan MOJIZO NA THAYO, BUILDING PADI GAI & ketla momino guzri gaya. MOLA MOLA MUFADDAL MOLA.
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Unread post by New » Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:38 pm

There are hard core Abdes and Amtes, loss of life or property does not mean a thing. If Mola says then that is the last word, khalls. If these Marhooms had known, what there fate was going to be, do you think they would have vacated? I am sure this tragedy will be repeated again and again. Mola has his agenda which is not even hidden but in plain sight.



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Unread post by allbird » Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:18 am

I think this Moula has no power's meaning he is not Moziza na Saheb. By fluke he must has done something and a Moziza invented. The chamchas working behind Qasre - Mawali and Jamea A-wipes are manipulating and using Pheka-Pheki like narendra Modi to create Moziza's.

I was just wondering if SKQ would have been given a proper Nuss how would he handle this whole mess....Just a through.



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Unread post by byculla » Thu Sep 14, 2017 3:00 pm

Case registered against SBUT officials in Husaini building collapse

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/ ... e-4844051/

"We registered a case against the officials of SBUT and others yesterday," said senior inspector Shirish Gaikwad of J J Marg police station. "As the personal responsibility is yet to be fixed, we did not mention any names in the case," he said.



Updated: September 14, 2017 10:16 pm

Police have registered a case of ‘culpable homicide not amounting to murder’ against unnamed officials of the Saifi Burhani Upliftment Trust (SBUT) in connection with the collapse of a five-story building in south Mumbai last month in which 33 people were killed. “We registered a case against the officials of SBUT and others yesterday,” said senior inspector Shirish Gaikwad of J J Marg police station.

“As the personal responsibility is yet to be fixed, we did not mention any names in the case,” he said. The case was registered under IPC sections 304 (2) (culpable homicide not amounting to murder) and 338 (causing grievous hurt by act endangering life or personal safety of others).

Five-story Husaini Building on Pakmodia Street in Dongri area collapsed on August 31, killing 33 persons. Sixteen others were injured. The dilapidated building, which was more than hundred years old, had been declared dangerous to live in. SBUT is supposed to redevelop several buildings in the area under `cluster redevelopment’ scheme. It is alleged that the trust failed to get the building vacated in time despite getting permission to pull it down in March 2011.