Ashara 1439 - Karachi, Pakistan

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kseeker
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Ashara 1439 - Karachi, Pakistan

#1

Unread post by kseeker » Sat Sep 09, 2017 4:40 am

This was unexpected. Given the political + wahabi mentality people have towards Shiias, this event won't go without problems....
I hope I am wrong....



faalse_ka_faasla
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#2

Unread post by faalse_ka_faasla » Sat Sep 09, 2017 5:26 am

Forwarded as received...

Karachi java vaaste 2 bhaiyo ne contact kari sakai che.
India to Karachi na route si ghana waaqif che

(You can contact these 2 person to go to Karachi.
They are very well familiar with India to Karachi route.)


Salman Khan
Sunny Deol



think
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#3

Unread post by think » Sat Sep 09, 2017 10:34 am

what happened to columbo?



Bohra spring
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#4

Unread post by Bohra spring » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:32 am

think wrote:
Sat Sep 09, 2017 10:34 am
what happened to columbo?
Mojiza...
.Nairobi Uhuru dua failed to reach..re-election

Colombo failed to raise najwa

Karachi na mumin ne Taliban ni gharam hava si bachawa vaste

U.S. Canada ane Australia munafik

Middle East wahabi manta nathi moala is diaullah



think
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#5

Unread post by think » Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:29 pm

so then , money talks.



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#6

Unread post by think » Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:30 pm

najwa is talking



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Unread post by think » Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:31 pm

also understand the ghettas may bring him cash in suitcases but some one is watching the ghettas



Mkenya
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Unread post by Mkenya » Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:03 pm

As on Ghadirul Khuum, Rasulullah (SAW) proclaimed Maulana Ali (AS) by saying "Mun kuntu maula..........", Abdes waited with maatam-poised hands for SMS to announce the location of next year Ashara; this time in Karachi. Abdes from the world over will descend on Karachi with overflowing bags of cash, starch-bundh saya, kurta, rida, etc. prepared to exhibit their akida to SMS. Once in a while SMS might rouse his slumbering audience to remember Imam Husseins' (AS) martyrdom but his focus will no doubt be to 'geet gawa' 51st, 52nd. and 'Laanat' to SKQ and his ilk.



AMAFHH
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#9

Unread post by AMAFHH » Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:42 am

Salaam,
This is to advise all mumineen in Kuwait who are waiting for Pakistan visa processing that so far the Pakistan Embassy in Kuwait has not received any visa processing instructions from their high commission in Pakistan. Any visa processing, therefore will commence only after any instructions are received and it is likely to take time.

Given this, Mumineen are advised not to book their air tickets or hotel, until the visa is issued.

The nizam will be announced once the instructions are received from Pakistan, everyone should wait until further information.


Mumineen are requested not to panic and do not circulate any false / unauthentic messages on whatsaap.



gulam_parinda
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#10

Unread post by gulam_parinda » Thu Sep 14, 2017 1:35 am

Yesterday one of my hardcore abde friend was glorifieng SMS visit to Karachi...That look how brave is our mawala they are going to dangerous place like pakistan for ashara ...Even president of USA hesitate to go there...
So I just asked him what happened later when ISIS was destroying the roza of zenab a.s. and marching toward Imam Hussain Roza...Why that time leave the job for farishtas and military of iran and iraq..
As usual the answer was ....You don't understand the hiqmat and fazilat of mawala and daawat...,😀



Moiz_Dhaanu
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#11

Unread post by Moiz_Dhaanu » Sun Sep 17, 2017 2:15 pm

Fwd as Recvd:
OHH BAAT gone out of the window!!!!!!
Shame on them. Dancing for the cause of Moharram!! Is it going to be the festival of sorrow or joy?
Pakistan ma logo khusi manave che



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New
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#12

Unread post by New » Sun Sep 17, 2017 6:04 pm

Can you or other people authenticate this? Why the dancing? Nachta na awartu hoi to nachwa jiwu Mo banawo?



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#13

Unread post by New » Sun Sep 17, 2017 6:05 pm

Also send these clips to the Pakistan govt. And other Muslim countries.



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Unread post by SBM » Sun Sep 17, 2017 7:48 pm

New wrote:
Sun Sep 17, 2017 6:04 pm
Can you or other people authenticate this? Why the dancing? Nachta na awartu hoi to nachwa jiwu Mo banawo?
Celebrating the arrival of money suckers



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#15

Unread post by think » Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:53 am

mumineen need to understand "Ashura is not in Karachi " it is all over the earth and heavens wherever and whenever the name Hussain is uttered .Imam Hussain"s kingdom extends far beyond this earth, let alone this small god forsaken place called karachi.
also news that mumineen travelling with cash are being looted left and right by the mobs as soon as they get out of the airport in karachi. Pakistani gangs know bohris have a lot of money.



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Unread post by Reporter » Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:54 am

Matam in mid air!!!

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think
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Unread post by think » Wed Sep 20, 2017 3:03 pm

ask any abde or amte and they will say "aa waras ashura karachi ma che". They have been brainwashed. This is wrong. The gham and bukaa of Imam Hussain is every where on earth and in the heavens. And for those who realize his sacrifices , the gham of Imam Hussain is there each and every day of their lives.



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Unread post by allbird » Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:34 pm

Those who are not going to Karachi can follow Sayaed Ammar Nashwani online. Heard he is very good orator.

http://sayedammar.com/lectures/

At times he talks about the 12 shia Imams but i found the story about Lion coming out of painting and devour the magician is copied with our own Imam Mustansir. Their version is that Imam Reza ordered the Lion from painting to eat the Magician. The thing is we are discourage from listening other community Waez so that we don't discover the truth. I have heard Sunni Waez and they have copied same Moziza of Imam Moula Ali and replicated with Ummar, Uthman or abu Bakkar . I never knew even Shias are told to eat a pinch of salt before and after meals because we don't listen to other community Waez.

We are told "Je Moula Fermanve eij sahi che" while we bask on our own superiority complexes.

Who is right only Allah SWT knows......



Mkenya
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#19

Unread post by Mkenya » Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:20 am

think:
you post - also news that mumineen travelling with cash are being looted left and right by the mobs as soon as they get out of the airport in karachi. Pakistani gangs know bohris have a lot of money.

Please quote your news sources, if authentic. Do you want people to believe that mobs are waiting just outside the airport to pounce on mumineen and divest them of their money?



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#20

Unread post by momeenbhai » Fri Sep 22, 2017 1:03 am

Reporter wrote:
Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:54 am
Matam in mid air!!!

I really wish these guys knew even just one ounce of Imam Hussain life and reality and why Imam Hussain actually sacrificed his life.... not sure how long they gonna think that Imam Hussian was killed just so that bohras 1400 years after will hit their chest only.

Matam is important, but the message of Imam Hussain is even bigger which they miss.



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#21

Unread post by momeenbhai » Fri Sep 22, 2017 1:08 am

Moron Muffy busy with his usual circus forgetting message of Imam Hussain....no wonder he invited wahabi tariq jameel to kiss his ass, the video is available on you tube.
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Unread post by SBM » Fri Sep 22, 2017 7:32 am

momeenbhai wrote:
Fri Sep 22, 2017 1:08 am
Moron Muffy busy with his usual circus forgetting message of Imam Hussain....no wonder he invited wahabi tariq jameel to kiss his ass, the video is available on you tube.
HYPOCRICY at its Peak
Looking at the pictures, Hussain's Dai needs SECURITY PERSONNEL around him so he can talk about Imam Hussain and his family who went UNESCORTED to Karbala



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Unread post by Reporter » Fri Sep 22, 2017 7:15 pm

Ba'adab ba'mulahiza Shaneshah-e-Mumeen-e-Qaynat Ashra ke liye hazair ho rahe hain....
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Unread post by bohri » Sat Sep 23, 2017 6:57 am

The arrival of Muffadal in Karachi is a reenactment of another entrance thirteen hundred years ago in Damascus. That of a ruler, who in the name of religious leadership, enjoyed his powerful seat to live a life of debauchery. He too loved self glorification. Like Muffadal, he too distorted the Original message and demanded oaths of allegiances. His ascension to the throne was also disputed. Like the Abdes of today, his subjects too indulged in him, danced with joy, while sacrificing their own livelihoods.

The question is who will be today's Hussein to Muffadal's Yazidry?



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#25

Unread post by yfm » Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:29 pm

Has any one being listening or going to the waaz of either Seyedna Fakruddin or Mufaddal Bhai?

Also who is more educational and inspiring?

Where do the Progressive Dawoody Bohras meet during these days of muharram?

Any information can help this displaced homeless wanderer searching for an abode not in the heavens above but down here on earth

Salaam.



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#26

Unread post by Sceptical » Sun Sep 24, 2017 9:58 am

And fake propaganda...

This kind of messages are circulating around the wolrd on Whatsapp...
http://www.thedawoodibohras.com/na_ui.a ... icle_id=64
17 September 2017
Prominent Sunni scholar, Moulana Tariq Jamil saheb, Archbishop Joseph Coutts and Rector of St Patrick's Cathedral Father Mario Rodrigues met His Holiness Syedna Mufaddal SaifuddinTUS in Karachi along with Pakistan cricket captain Sarfaraz Ahmed.

Initially scehduled for just a few minutes Moulana Jamil saheb sat for a long time In discussion with Syedna.

He told Syedna, 'we respect you so much and we welcome you here with our hearts. Your presence makes us happy.'

Pakistan international cricket team captain Sarfraz Ahmed was also with Moulana Jamil Saheb. It was under his stewardship that Pakistan pulled off a surprise tournament win at the recent ICC Champions Trophy in England.

Archbishop Coutts and Father Rodrigues also met Syedna with great warmth. In a wonderful gesture of love, respect and solidarity in faith, both St. Patrick's & St. Joseph's Schools of Karachi will remain closed for the ten days of Ashara in Moharram. Both are close to the the Parsi ground where arrangements have been made for the thousands of Ashara attendees to have lunch and dinner.
Reality :
http://www.stjosephscollege.edu.pk/File ... 092017.pdf
Dated: 20-9-2017
Dear Teachers and Students,
This is to inform you that The Bohra Community is having a
sacred occasion of Moharram on 22nd, 25th, 26th & 27th
September 2017.
During these days their spiritual leader His Holiness Dr. Syedna
Mufaddal Saifuddin, Head of International Dawoodi Bohra
Community will be visiting Karachi to deliver Sermons at
Karachi Bohra Jamat Khanna in Saddar. An approximation of
45,000 Bohra community people from around the world will be
attending this event
.
As per Directive from the Directorate of Private schools
Department of Education and Literacy (Government of Sindh),
we have been asked to close all schools of the Saddar region on
the above mentioned dates.

Sr. Roohi Ghouri
Principal



think
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#27

Unread post by think » Sun Sep 24, 2017 8:26 pm

From the waez of 4th. moharram by Mr Muffadal, would like to know if hijri calender started after the yemen king tried to destory the Kaaba or from the time the Rasool migrated to Medina? This controversial question arises after listening to the waez.



Moiz_Dhaanu
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#28

Unread post by Moiz_Dhaanu » Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:30 am

yfm wrote:
Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:29 pm
Has any one being listening or going to the waaz of either Seyedna Fakruddin or Mufaddal Bhai?
Also who is more educational and inspiring?
Where do the Progressive Dawoody Bohras meet during these days of muharram?
Any information can help this displaced homeless wanderer searching for an abode not in the heavens above but down here on earth
Salaam.
I heard both,
If you are willing to hear someone who cannot even take his eyes from the written scripts provided to him by his speech writers, you are more then welcome to hear DMBS sermon. :mrgreen:

Fatemi dawat waaz is more hollistic and all encompassing and will make you proud that you are a muslim(with all the negativity currently going around the world for Islam) ,and not just part of a cult of "thaali conusmers".

As far as educational is concerned....there is no value to listen to somone who thinks women should sit at home (you make the call)



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Unread post by dawedaar » Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:51 am

think wrote:
Sun Sep 24, 2017 8:26 pm
From the waez of 4th. moharram by Mr Muffadal, would like to know if hijri calender started after the yemen king tried to destory the Kaaba or from the time the Rasool migrated to Medina? This controversial question arises after listening to the waez.
No, he didn't say that. I listened and he properly said that Hijri calendar started from the day Nabi (Saw) did hijrat from Mecca to Medina!



LFT
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Unread post by LFT » Mon Sep 25, 2017 11:52 am

Why is this being discussed in a waaz? Dont all muslims above the age of 5 already know this?