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Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018

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Unread post by byculla » Thu May 17, 2018 7:14 am

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cit ... 142679.cms

Bhendi Bazaar redevelopment: Peace march to ‘evict’ 700 tenants


MUMBAI: On Sunday, the Saifee Burhani Upliftment Trust (SBUT) created a decade ago for cluster redevelopment of Bhendi Bazaar will take out a peace march through the congested area, home to scores of old and dilapidated buildings. The march that will see the participation of children from the neighbourhood is to urge around 700 tenants who are yet to move out to make up their mind on shifting.
Last year’s Hussaini building collapse that claimed 33 lives has prodded the SBUT to identify old and dilapidated buildings and take up their demolition. Shoaib Wajhiuddin, head of tenant management for the trust, was arrested in March this year for culpable homicide not amounting to murder in the case, and is still in jail. Since the tragedy SBUT has been issuing notices to tenants of old and dilapidated buildings to vacate voluntarily or be forcibly evicted. MHADA officials said that if tenants do not vacate, they would be forced to seek police intervention to move them out.

“We identified 250 old and dilapidated buildings. So far we have demolished over a hundred buildings but there are more than a hundred others that are still occupied, with residents refusing to move though we have increased the (transit) rent to Rs 30,000 per month and are giving two years rent in advance,” said a SBUT spokesperson.
Syed Jalaluddin, head of NCP’s minorities cell who filed a public interest litigation demanding accountability in last year’s building collapse, said residents want to move out. “The issue is whether the Trust is providing adequate rent or alternative accommodation. SBUT has not registered a majority of the agreements it has signed with tenants. There is no clarity on when tenants would return to Bhendi Bazaar and on which floor they will be housed. The government must enquire into the non-registration of the agreements as it is losing revenue by non-payment of stamp duty,” he said. He said the trust and the government must use force if required to evict tenants so that no lives are lost.
Local residents declining to be identified said they are unable to find houses on rent in the area and the Trust is not providing alternative accommodation. A cycle repair shop owner has served a notice on the SBUT as he has been promised a shop on the second floor of the redeveloped building. Residents asked: “Who will carry the bicycle two floors up to be repaired?”



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Unread post by gulam_parinda » Sat May 19, 2018 11:11 am

Just received on whatsapp...That SMS is selling place for namaz in maszids...
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Unread post by UnhappyBohra » Sun May 20, 2018 4:58 am

gulam_parinda wrote:
Sat May 19, 2018 11:11 am
Just received on whatsapp...That SMS is selling place for namaz in maszids...
Among the woke crowd, I see a trend in staying home and praying anyways. Significantly more peaceful and spiritually satisfying. After the first couple of days I have decided not to go to the masjid where iftaar is done twice. First with gallons of the special blend of Toxic Mufaddali Koolaid and then with tea and biscuits. I heard smirks even from the once frantically nodding crowd. The pressure to dole out cash was already at fever pitch on beeji taareekh - not for masallahs, not in the US yet, but for the dreaded day of reckoning - the waajebaat meeting!



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Unread post by Pandora786 » Sun May 20, 2018 5:07 am

UnhappyBohra wrote:
Sun May 20, 2018 4:58 am
gulam_parinda wrote:
Sat May 19, 2018 11:11 am
Just received on whatsapp...That SMS is selling place for namaz in maszids...
Among the woke crowd, I see a trend in staying home and praying anyways. Significantly more peaceful and spiritually satisfying. After the first couple of days I have decided not to go to the masjid where iftaar is done twice. First with gallons of the special blend of Toxic Mufaddali Koolaid and then with tea and biscuits. I heard smirks even from the once frantically nodding crowd. The pressure to dole out cash was already at fever pitch on beeji taareekh - not for masallahs, not in the US yet, but for the dreaded day of reckoning - the waajebaat meeting!
I second that also. The same thing here in Singapore.
After the visit by SMS there will be increasing pressure to pay more for waajebaat to rebuild the masjid funds.



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Unread post by UnhappyBohra » Sun May 20, 2018 6:58 am

Pandora786 wrote:
Sun May 20, 2018 5:07 am
UnhappyBohra wrote:
Sun May 20, 2018 4:58 am


Among the woke crowd, I see a trend in staying home and praying anyways. Significantly more peaceful and spiritually satisfying. After the first couple of days I have decided not to go to the masjid where iftaar is done twice. First with gallons of the special blend of Toxic Mufaddali Koolaid and then with tea and biscuits. I heard smirks even from the once frantically nodding crowd. The pressure to dole out cash was already at fever pitch on beeji taareekh - not for masallahs, not in the US yet, but for the dreaded day of reckoning - the waajebaat meeting!
I second that also. The same thing here in Singapore.
After the visit by SMS there will be increasing pressure to pay more for waajebaat to rebuild the masjid funds.
I forgot to mention “hub.” That collection where you pay gobs of money for poor quality iftaar food. My favorite is Maggi cube soup and rice with token vegetables and shredded chicken. I ate better when I was at University!



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Unread post by UnhappyBohra » Sun May 20, 2018 7:43 am

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Unread post by objectiveobserver53 » Sun May 20, 2018 8:20 am

Heheh. I have never seen a grown man look this afraid to touch a horse. He looks far more sure of himself posing behind a dead lion :D



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Unread post by Pandora786 » Sun May 20, 2018 8:49 am

objectiveobserver53 wrote:
Sun May 20, 2018 8:20 am

Heheh. I have never seen a grown man look this afraid to touch a horse. He looks far more sure of himself posing behind a dead lion :D
Why is he on the quest of adopting animals ? First it was a tiger in Singapore now a horse..



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Unread post by dal-chaval-palidu » Sun May 20, 2018 2:01 pm

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Don't use such words, bhai. Just respectfully point it out.

And one can also point out as to why it is okay to do so much shikar in Africa (of so many animals), and now you adopt in India, Singapore and other places.



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Unread post by Mkenya » Sun May 20, 2018 2:50 pm

Sau chue mar kar billi haj ko chali!



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Unread post by momeenbhai » Mon May 21, 2018 4:59 pm

is he doing some thing for yemeni kids? forget about yemeni kids how many schools in India provides free education?

ghoda adopt kare che [DELETED].



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Unread post by momeenbhai » Mon May 21, 2018 5:01 pm

koi bhi kaam maa niyyat saaf nathi hoti...feku modi naa jem har cheez maa bus log dekhawo hoi che.



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Unread post by gulam_parinda » Thu May 24, 2018 1:38 am

Now they are bulldozing graves to built helipads and gardens at Ahmedabad...
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Unread post by gulam_parinda » Thu May 24, 2018 7:16 am

*Shaikh saifuddin kanchwala ki wajebat k bare me badi soch*

रमज़ान में हम जों पैसा वाज़ेबात कें रूप में देंतें हैं,या जों हमसें ज़बरदस्ती वसूल किया जाता हैं,असल में वों पैसा मौला क़े हाथों सें किन ग़रीबों कों तक़सीम होंता हैं,क़ोई भी एक दाउदी बोहरा ज़रा खुलकर बतानें क़ा एहसान करेंगा?
क़्योंकि वाज़ेबात एक तरह क़ा हमारीं जानों-माल क़ा सदक़ा होंता हैं,जिसें हम राहें-ख़ुदा में ग़रीबों कों तक़सीम करनें कें लिए अपनीं जायदाद औऱ दौलत कों compare करकें उसका 2.5%tax ख़ुदा कें नाम पर ग़रीबों कों देनें क़े लिए निकालतें हैं,औऱ ईस्लाम क़े मुताबिक़ यें सिर्फ़ औऱ सिर्फ़ ग़रीबों क़ा हक़ हैं औऱ सिर्फ़ उन्हीं क़े लिए हैं,मग़र यहाँ एक क़ाबिलें ग़ौर बात यह भी हैं क़ि मोमिन पर सदक़ा हराम हैं,एक मोमिन अपनें क़िसी मोमिन भाई पर सदक़ा नहीं कर सकता,फ़िर चाहें वों कितना हीं ग़रीब औऱ मज़बूर क्यों ना हों,औऱ ना हीं उसें यें करना जायज़ हैं,ईसीलिए यें पैसा या मदद हम दूसरें मुसलेंमीन या अन्य समाज़ क़े ग़रीबों में तक़सीम करतें हैं,23 मीं रात कों भी यें लोग हीं हमारें यहाँ रुपए, कपड़ें,अनाज़ आदि लेनें कें लिए आतें हैं,औऱ मौला क़ा हीं फ़रमान हैं क़ि मोमिन राजा,बादशाह हैं औऱ उसपर सदक़ा हराम हैं,तों फ़िर हर साल रमज़ान में हमसें उगाएँ हुईं अरबों रुपए कीं वाज़ेबात औऱ करोड़ों रुपए कें नज़रुल-मुक़ाम साहेब आख़िर मौला किन ग़रीबों क़े बीच में तक़सीम करतें हैं,क़्योंकि यें ईतनी बड़ीं रक़म हैं क़ि अग़र पुरीं ईमानदारी सें ग़रीबों कों तक़सीम कर दीं जाएँ तों ग़रीबी हमेंशा कें लिए हीं ख़त्म हों जाएँ,अग़र मौला हर साल हमारें देश में ग़रीबों कों line to line select करकें zonewise भी यें पैसा उन तक पहुँचा देंतें तों अभी तक वों सभी कमाई धंधें सें लग चुंकेँ होंतें,अग़र हर साल एक-एक ग़रीब देशों कों भी गोद लेंकर यें रक़म उन तक पहुँचा दीं जाएँ तों,सोमालिया,मँगोलिया तंज़ानिया या औऱ भी कई ग़रीब देश जहाँ कें लोग पेड़-पौधें औऱ कीड़ें-मकौड़े खानें कों मज़बूर हैं,वों सभी कम सें कम दों वक़्त अनाज़ सें अपना पेट तों भर सकतें हैं,क़्योंकि जब अरबों रुपए तों सिर्फ़ हम मामूली मोमिनीनों कें हीं ईकट्ठे हों जातें हैं तों फ़िर ख़ुद आक़ा मौला औऱ उनकीं पूरी royal family कितनीं बड़ीं रक़म वाज़ेबात कें रूप में निकालती होंगी,क़्योंकि ज़कात औऱ सदक़ा सभी कें ऊपर फ़र्ज़ हैं,ईससें क़ोई भी अछूता नहीं रह सकता फ़िर वों चाहें राजा हों या रंक हों,-----------------
: जब यें पैसें वाज़ेबात क़े हैं,या सदकें कें हैं,तों फ़िर यें एक प्रकार क़ा दान हुआ,औऱ दान कें पैसों पर तों क़ोई ईनकम-टैक्स भी नहीं लगता तों फ़िर हर शहर या गाँव सें ज़कात कें रुपयों क़ा जों bank-draft बनता हैं,उस पर ज़बरदस्ती दावत-ए-हादिया क्यों लिखा जाता हैं,क्या यें सारें रुपए मुमिनीनों नें दावत कों हदिया कर दिए हैं,या दावत कों दान कर दिए हैं,अग़र ग़रीबों में हीं सारें पैसें पूरी ईमानदारी सें तक़सीम करना हैं तों bank-draft पर भी केवल "दानराशि" हीं लिखकर क्यों bank-draft नहीं बनवाया जाता,अग़र ग़रीबों क़े दान कें लिए bank-draft बनता हैं,तों उलटें बैंक-वालें भी ईस नेंक काम क़े लिए बैंक-कमीशन छोड़ देंतें हैं,तों फ़िर आख़िर यें पर्दा किससें डर क़े किया जाता हैं?मौला अग़र चार-आनें क़े चनें भी क़िसी कों बाँटतें हैं तों उसकें प्रचार में दस हज़ार क़ा ख़र्च कर दिया जाता हैं,मोदी नें भी यें झूंठें प्रचार कीं कला ईन्हीं सें सीखीं हैं,पूरें आलम में CD बनाकर ख़ुदा कें घरों कों सर पर उठा लिया जाता हैं,तों फ़िर मौला रमज़ान कीं वाज़ेबात क़े अरबों रुपए क़ा दान चुपचाप कैसें कर सकतें हैं,क़िसी कों कानोंकान ख़बर तक नहीं ना सैफ़ी-महल में ग़रीबों कीं ना तों क़ोई लंबी-लंबी लाईनें दिखतीं हैं,औऱ ना हीं ग़रीब बस्तियों में मौला या उनकें शहजादें नज़र आतें हैं,तों फ़िर आख़िर ईतनीं बड़ीं रक़म जातीं कहाँ हैं,दाऊद ईब्राहिम कों,शिव-सेना कों, राज़ ठाकरें कों,RSS कों,GOVT OF MAHARASHTRA कों,या मुम्बई कें उन दूसरें गुंडे बदमाश मवालियों कों जों ईनकें ईशारों पर कुछ भी कर सकतें हैं,ज़रा दिमाग़ लगाईये, मोमिनों मैं दावत कें ख़िलाफ़ नहीं हुँ, मैं भी ईसी दावत क़ा एक अदना मोमिन हुँ, लेक़िन सच जाननें क़ा हक़ तों सभी क़ा बनता हैं क़ि नहीं,हमारीं मेहनत सें कमाएँ हुएँ ज़कात कें पैसों कों आख़िर किन ग़रीबों कों तक़सीम किया जा रहा हैं,क्या यें जाननें क़ा हक़ क़िसी आम मुमिनीनों कों नहीं हैं क्या, ज़कात तों सभी मुसलमान भी देंतें हैं लेक़िन अपनें हीं सामनें अपनें ख़ुद कें हीं हाथों सें,वों ज़कात क़े रुपयों कों क़िसी अंधें-कुँए में नहीं फ़ेंकतें, वों सभी ग़रीब ज़रूरतमंदों कों फ़ौरन मदद मुहैया करवातें हैं,औऱ वों भी अच्छी तादाद में ताकें ग़रीब औऱ जरूरतमंद लोंग भी रमज़ान क़े आख़िर में अच्छी तरह सें अपनें परिवार क़े साथ ईद मना सकें,
तों या तों वज़ारत कीं तरफ़ सें हर रमज़ान कीं वाज़ेबात क़ा फाईनल आँकड़ा औऱ वों किन-किनकों तक़सीम कीं गईं हैं,ईसकीं पुरीं रिपोर्ट कीं CD बनाकर हर रमज़ान क़े बाद तमाम आलम कीं हर मस्ज़िदों में सारें मुमिनीनों कों दिखाई जाएँ ताकें हमें भी पता चलें क़ि,ईस साल हमारीं वाज़ेबात क़े पैसों सें किन ग़रीबों क़ा भला हुआ,ताकें ऐसा देखकर मुमिनीनों क़े हौंसलें बुलंद हों तथा अंदर औऱ ऐसा अच्छा काम करनें क़ा एक नेंक जज़्बा पैदा हों औऱ अगलें साल हम फ़िर औऱ ज़्यादा सें ज़्यादा वाज़ेबात ख़ुद-ब-ख़ुद बिना क़िसी मुल्ला आमिल कीं सिफ़ारिश औऱ समझाईश क़े अदा कर सकें,औऱ अग़र ऐसा नहीं होंता हैं तों फ़िर,हम जों रुपए वाज़ेबात क़े लिए अपनें-अपनें घरों में ईकठ्ठे करतें हैं,उन रुपयों सें अपनें हीं हाथों सें भी क़िसी ग़रीब या ज़रूरतमंदों कीं मदद कर सकतें हैं,ईसकें लिए क़िसी सें भी लाईसेंस या ईज़ाज़त लेनें कीं क़ोई भी ज़रूरत नहीं,सिवाय अल्लाह क़े,
औऱ सबसें आख़िर में एक सबसें ज़रुरीं बात यें हैं क़ि मोमिनों पर मोमिन सदक़ा नहीं कर सकतें,लेक़िन अग़र क़ोई मोमिन परेशान हैं,मुसीबत में हैं,क़िसी कें बच्चों कीं स्कूल फ़ीस नहीं जमा हों रहीं,क़िसी कीं बीमारीं में ईलाज़ नहीं हों रहा हों,क़िसी कीं बेटी डिलेंवरी पीरियड में हों,क़िसी कों क़ोई काम-धंधें क़े लिए मदद कीं ज़रूरत हों तों,पाक़-परवरदिगार क़ा नाम लेंकर औऱ उन्हीं कीं तरफ़ सें आप ईन पैसों सें उन मुमिनीनों कीं मदद भी कर सकतें हों,यें सिर्फ़ औऱ सिर्फ़ एक मदद होंगी औऱ वों भी ख़ुदा कें महीनें में ख़ुदा कीं तरफ सें औऱ ख़ुदा क़े हीं बंदों कें लिए,सदक़ा नहीं,औऱ यक़ीन मानिएगा क़ि आपकें ऐसा करनें सें अल्लाह औऱ ज़्यादा ख़ुश होंकर आपकीं हर उम्मीद पुरीं करेंगा,इंशाअल्लाह,
क़्योंकि ईतनीं बड़ीं रक़म कों ग़रीबों में तक़सीम करनें कें लिए अब कहा ईस ज़ईफ़ी में हम मौला कों या उनकें royal-family क़े मेम्बरों कों फ़ालतू में तक़लीफ़ दें,तों मुमिनीनों ईस नेंक काम कीं शुरुआत ईस साल क़े रमज़ान में हम अपनें हीं हाथों सें अपनें हीं शहर कें या आस-पड़ोस क़े ज़रूरतमंद कीं मदद करकें कर सकतें हैं,औऱ सहीं मायनों में ख़ुदा कों ख़ुश कर सकतें हैं,आमीन अल्लाह हम सबकों नेंक तौफ़ीक औऱ हिदायत अता फ़रमाएँ।।



momeenbhai
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#345

Unread post by momeenbhai » Thu May 24, 2018 2:00 pm

the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “When a man spends on his family, hoping for reward, that is (counted as) an act of charity for him.”



Moiz_Dhaanu
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#346

Unread post by Moiz_Dhaanu » Thu May 24, 2018 6:50 pm

I got this WhatsApp fwd..can someone from Canada verify it

*Latest Breaking News!!!*

The Bohra Syedna's Visa application was rejected by the Canadian Govt! He was supposed to arrive for the iftetah of the new Mississauga Masjid and was forced to grant raza for its inauguration over the phone. Now the masjid which was only partially being allowed to be used is fully open for namaaz and jamans. All this only became possible due to the efforts of 2 brave individuals who informed the Federal Government in Ottawa of the Syedna's activities; his support for FGM, his wanton killing of endangered species of animals, his tyranny and loot of the community, his institutionalised money laundering on a massive scale, the undemocratic functioning of the bohra jamaats in Canada, abuse of their charity status to avoid taxes and the misuse of govt funds provided for preservation of Heritage and Culture under the guise of which the jamaats are brainwashing kids in madrassas and teaching them a pseudo language called dawat ni zabaan.

This is the first time in the world that he has been denied entry in this fashion!!! This should give heart to all reformists to be brave and fight, knock on the right doors and strike at the roots of this rotten tree.



Maqbool
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#347

Unread post by Maqbool » Fri May 25, 2018 6:38 am

Teri marzi kaun puchhta hai, Bas ab tou Moula ki chalti hai.
Zakat tune vaajib ki hogi, Ab tou vaajebat hi adaa hoti hai.

Zakat garibo me taksim hua karti thi apni zaroorato ke hissab se.
Ab garib zakat chahta hai, Vaajebat dene ki firaaq me.

Ab Chaandi ho gayi hai, Safed Sher aur Vilaayati Ghoro ki,
Moula ne nawaaza hai unhe, na hogi kami unke khaan-paan ki.

Mumin ko bhi hasrat hai ki nawazish mile moula ki thik aise hi,
Jaise paayi hai takdir jaanvaro ne abhi abhi vaise hi.

Bechaara Mumin kya jaane ki ghadho ko pala nahi jaata,
Dugoona kam karne par bhi usse bhar pet khilaya nahi jaata.



Pandora786
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#348

Unread post by Pandora786 » Sat May 26, 2018 2:22 am

From a Twitter post of Dr. Saud al-Funaysan:
Very Relevant in Bohra Masjids especially in Singapore don’t know about the rest!
Important Note:
Some people, when they see the masjid filled with worshippers in Ramzaan, appoint themselves as investigators and judges; they say, where were they before? Why didn’t we see them all year long, etc? As though Paradise (Jannah) and Hell are in their hands.
Dear brother,
They are the guests of Allah, not your guests; they are in Allah’s house, not yours. They hope for the mercy of their Lord, not your mercy.
Beware of pride and conceit regarding your obedience (to Allah), lest your deeds become worthless while you don’t even realize it.



Bori85
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#349

Unread post by Bori85 » Sat May 26, 2018 2:02 pm

Regarding Wajebaat, even I have a question since long time , if a Momeen cannot or shouldn't give Sadqaa to another momeen , then whom should he give this money to? . During Prophet's time the Muslim's were taking out 2.5% of their wealth as Sadqaa and were giving it to whom?

And regarding Kothaar collecting Vajebaat money from us, well that's very obvious this money goes in maintaining the luxurious lifestyle of Saifee Mahal residents and for all other such things mentioned in this article.


gulam_parinda wrote:
Thu May 24, 2018 7:16 am
*Shaikh saifuddin kanchwala ki wajebat k bare me badi soch*

रमज़ान में हम जों पैसा वाज़ेबात कें रूप में देंतें हैं,या जों हमसें ज़बरदस्ती वसूल किया जाता हैं,असल में वों पैसा मौला क़े हाथों सें किन ग़रीबों कों तक़सीम होंता हैं,क़ोई भी एक दाउदी बोहरा ज़रा खुलकर बतानें क़ा एहसान करेंगा? ...........................



Bohra spring
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#350

Unread post by Bohra spring » Sat May 26, 2018 2:32 pm

Bro Pandora

Sorry to say this Bohra masjids are not Allah's house. They are Dai Mutlaq properties. ..i am not making this check the documents

Facts check which words are used most maula and ya Husein. ...how many times do Bohras say Ya Allah or Ya Rasul ul Allah. Even in namaz they end with ya Hussain.

So if you want to feel like guest of maula keep going ....

If you want to feel a guest of Allah. ..go to a Muslim masjid
Pandora786 wrote:
Sat May 26, 2018 2:22 am
From a Twitter post of Dr. Saud al-Funaysan:
Very Relevant in Bohra Masjids especially in Singapore don’t know about the rest!
Important Note:
Some people, when they see the masjid filled with worshippers in Ramzaan, appoint themselves as investigators and judges; they say, where were they before? Why didn’t we see them all year long, etc? As though Paradise (Jannah) and Hell are in their hands.
Dear brother,
They are the guests of Allah, not your guests; they are in Allah’s house, not yours. They hope for the mercy of their Lord, not your mercy.
Beware of pride and conceit regarding your obedience (to Allah), lest your deeds become worthless while you don’t even realize it.



HJK
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#351

Unread post by HJK » Sun May 27, 2018 6:29 am

Bori85 wrote:
Sat May 26, 2018 2:02 pm
Regarding Wajebaat, even I have a question since long time , if a Momeen cannot or shouldn't give Sadqaa to another momeen , then whom should he give this money to? . During Prophet's time the Muslim's were taking out 2.5% of their wealth as Sadqaa and were giving it to whom?

And regarding Kothaar collecting Vajebaat money from us, well that's very obvious this money goes in maintaining the luxurious lifestyle of Saifee Mahal residents and for all other such things mentioned in this article.


gulam_parinda wrote:
Thu May 24, 2018 7:16 am
*Shaikh saifuddin kanchwala ki wajebat k bare me badi soch*

रमज़ान में हम जों पैसा वाज़ेबात कें रूप में देंतें हैं,या जों हमसें ज़बरदस्ती वसूल किया जाता हैं,असल में वों पैसा मौला क़े हाथों सें किन ग़रीबों कों तक़सीम होंता हैं,क़ोई भी एक दाउदी बोहरा ज़रा खुलकर बतानें क़ा एहसान करेंगा? ...........................
There is not only one meaning of sadaqah, it also means silat or muwasaat. Every penny given in vajebaat is accounted and audited. Not necessary to show it to anybody. If you would probably even think of complaining somewhere you would make a fool of yourself just like OzD will after all the traces are over. Even the galla money is accounted with witnesses. Try whatever you can.
Just to give a hint . There are 4 Jamea’s and NO fees l. Nearly 3000 students faculties and much more.



HJK
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#352

Unread post by HJK » Sun May 27, 2018 6:33 am

HJK wrote:
Sun May 27, 2018 6:29 am
Bori85 wrote:
Sat May 26, 2018 2:02 pm
Regarding Wajebaat, even I have a question since long time , if a Momeen cannot or shouldn't give Sadqaa to another momeen , then whom should he give this money to? . During Prophet's time the Muslim's were taking out 2.5% of their wealth as Sadqaa and were giving it to whom?

And regarding Kothaar collecting Vajebaat money from us, well that's very obvious this money goes in maintaining the luxurious lifestyle of Saifee Mahal residents and for all other such things mentioned in this article.





There is not only one meaning of sadaqah, it also means silat or muwasaat. Every penny given in vajebaat is accounted and audited. Not necessary to show it to anybody. If you would probably even think of complaining somewhere you would make a fool of yourself just like OzD will after all the traces are over. Even the galla money is accounted with witnesses. Try whatever you can.
Just to give a hint . There are 4 Jamea’s and NO fees l. Nearly 3000 students faculties and much more.
The money goes to 100s and 1000s & many more causes which you will never know and nobody will show. Dua ma yaad bhaiyo



allbird
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#353

Unread post by allbird » Sun May 27, 2018 7:50 am

That includes Saifee Mahal upkeep and number of servent's in each flats, plus drivers, luxury cars, petrol, foreign travels, clothing's for parasites and their little litters of 500+. 4 Jamea's were NOT OUR demand. they were forced onto us. It is easy to plan project's by bulldozing someone else graves. Wah re wah what justification for Maal-e-Dawaat expenses. Mumineen are dislodged and left homeless and you justify Wajebaat expense ? BadDua of Muzluum is far more worse, and if Dai-Uz-Zaman is given budDua by mumineen he will face the Wrath of Allah SWT. As you can see the position and respect of seat of Dai is diminishing as time goes. Even good mumineen are now questioning.



HJK
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#354

Unread post by HJK » Sun May 27, 2018 10:08 am

allbird wrote:
Sun May 27, 2018 7:50 am
That includes Saifee Mahal upkeep and number of servent's in each flats, plus drivers, luxury cars, petrol, foreign travels, clothing's for parasites and their little litters of 500+. 4 Jamea's were NOT OUR demand. they were forced onto us. It is easy to plan project's by bulldozing someone else graves. Wah re wah what justification for Maal-e-Dawaat expenses. Mumineen are dislodged and left homeless and you justify Wajebaat expense ? BadDua of Muzluum is far more worse, and if Dai-Uz-Zaman is given budDua by mumineen he will face the Wrath of Allah SWT. As you can see the position and respect of seat of Dai is diminishing as time goes. Even good mumineen are now questioning.
No expense is included
The respect will never decrease, only alot more enemies in the zamaan together like many previous zamaans. The shaan will be seen rather is seen.



HJK
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#355

Unread post by HJK » Sun May 27, 2018 10:27 am

HJK wrote:
Sun May 27, 2018 10:08 am
allbird wrote:
Sun May 27, 2018 7:50 am
That includes Saifee Mahal upkeep and number of servent's in each flats, plus drivers, luxury cars, petrol, foreign travels, clothing's for parasites and their little litters of 500+. 4 Jamea's were NOT OUR demand. they were forced onto us. It is easy to plan project's by bulldozing someone else graves. Wah re wah what justification for Maal-e-Dawaat expenses. Mumineen are dislodged and left homeless and you justify Wajebaat expense ? BadDua of Muzluum is far more worse, and if Dai-Uz-Zaman is given budDua by mumineen he will face the Wrath of Allah SWT. As you can see the position and respect of seat of Dai is diminishing as time goes. Even good mumineen are now questioning.
No expense is included
The respect will never decrease, only alot more enemies in the zamaan together like many previous zamaans. The shaan will be seen rather is seen.
The irony is people who pay nothing or close to nothing have the major problem whereas we have no problems. Yes we have asked for the Jamea because it is the zaat of Dai zamaan. It is the children of mumineen in it. Thats just one thing, there are 1000s of mumineen who benefit and will keep benefiting and there will always be people who will burn here and hereafter.



Moiz_Dhaanu
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#356

Unread post by Moiz_Dhaanu » Sun May 27, 2018 4:32 pm

For all those "feku bhakts" of DMBS who claim that DMBS uses wajebaat money of bohras to build jamiya.Wrong!!..here is the proof..
he asks money separately for Jamiya

This was distributed worldwide to ask for money for Marol jamiya...

But unlike DMBS, true duats of previous times , actually established the true Surat jamiya with heir own hard earned money.

Those time the institution of jamea was truly Dai ni zaat..but now its all corruption , and dancing and singing students(we have seen the videos)

One more reason which proves that DMBS is an impostor and not a true Dai.

By the way still waiting for 2 things
1) LaceWala recent picture with his "feku Mola" ,
2) Bhakt's version of the so-called raza and hiqmat given by DMBS behind demolishing the many kabrs in Ahmedabad

DMBS : Dawedaar Mufaddal Bhai Saheb
Attachments
Marol Jamea PPT.pdf
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gulam_parinda
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#357

Unread post by gulam_parinda » Sun May 27, 2018 6:13 pm

*Now its time of the beginning Poona City Jamaat Unrest.*
Bhabhi saheb who is nothing more than the wife of Pune Bhaisaheb yesterday got carried away with her speech to momeneen who were about to have dinner after long n tiring fast. Bhabhisaheb forgetting her position threw a speech as if like a GALI KA GUNDA saying.... if u dont follow rules तो में एक एक ने जोई लईस.... मारी वात नहीं फॉलो करो तो जोजो में सु करीस, मसल्लो फेकी दइस.... मस्जिद तमारा बाप नी नाथी..... मस्जिद माँ आवा नहीं दऊ.... and other such rubbish. To support her was the Masul of Pune City Jamat *Chamchi attarwala and her few foolish members* who have done nothing but gunah of *चुग्लि अने चापलूसी* to bhabhi saheb.
AND ALL THIS ABOVE WAS BEING SAID WITH END SENTENCE AAQAA MAULA NI KHUSHI WAASTE.
Sombody ask her *Does AAQAA MAULA KHUSHI LIES IN MOMENIN BEING HANDLED IN ABOVE WAY......?*
Really a sorry state for our Jamaat that such hipocrats have been made to sit on our head. Utter shame.
N All those who call themselves khidmatguzars in any city including Pune city ..... have to remember that u r doing khidmat by your own choice n not by selection. Understand the meaning of khidmatguzar first. Dont try do bossing in name of khidmat. Already u r the laughing stock in general. Dont let the commoner go to the extent that u end up crying.

My Appeal to Pune Momenin Behano...
Rise-up n reply strongly to this nonsense before it becomes a daily routine....

*1 more thing. This msg is not from a davedaar follower as its is always said but a humble momin from Pune City Jamat who still doesn't want to comeout in open. But if need be i will be allout headson with this goons*

Plz spread this msg far and wide so that it reaches into *right hands* or *right minds*



Pandora786
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#358

Unread post by Pandora786 » Sun May 27, 2018 7:31 pm

Hasn’t she forgotten that this is the holy month of Ramzaan. Indeed what Bro Bohra Spring said is true that our Bohra masjids are properties of the Dai Ul Mutlaq and these goons are the caretakers.



dal-chaval-palidu
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#359

Unread post by dal-chaval-palidu » Mon May 28, 2018 1:15 am

HJK wrote:
Sun May 27, 2018 10:27 am
HJK wrote:
Sun May 27, 2018 10:08 am

No expense is included
The respect will never decrease, only alot more enemies in the zamaan together like many previous zamaans. The shaan will be seen rather is seen.
The irony is people who pay nothing or close to nothing have the major problem whereas we have no problems. Yes we have asked for the Jamea because it is the zaat of Dai zamaan. It is the children of mumineen in it. Thats just one thing, there are 1000s of mumineen who benefit and will keep benefiting and there will always be people who will burn here and hereafter.
Sorry, just not correct. In the past couple of days I have talked to 4 people whom I know well (in our masjid), and all of us pay decent amount of wajebaat contributions. And all the 4 were complaining about how to reduce wajebaat, that it is too much (way above the wajib zakaat), and how to expalin to the janab to reduce it/keep it the same.

What you are saying is simply not the reality of what I see. And by the way, I have 2 requests if what you say is correct:

1.) You say most of those who pay nothing or close to nothing are objecting (your statement highlighted above). Others have no problem. Okay, then why this force. Just have a box where people will give whatever wajebaat they happily want to give. You say most of the big payers are happy to give, so then that should be no issue with the kothar.

2.) You say all the money is totally spent responsibly. Okay, so then why does kothar have a problem showing the accounts? It was one of the original demands of the reform movement (if I understand correctly), to have accounts transparency.

Will the kothar do either of the above two? Pretty sure we know the answer.



dal-chaval-palidu
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#360

Unread post by dal-chaval-palidu » Mon May 28, 2018 1:16 am

deleted as it was a duplicate