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Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 3:45 am
by HJK
Moiz_Dhaanu wrote: Sun May 27, 2018 4:32 pm For all those "feku bhakts" of DMBS who claim that DMBS uses wajebaat money of bohras to build jamiya.Wrong!!..here is the proof..
he asks money separately for Jamiya

This was distributed worldwide to ask for money for Marol jamiya...

But unlike DMBS, true duats of previous times , actually established the true Surat jamiya with heir own hard earned money.

Those time the institution of jamea was truly Dai ni zaat..but now its all corruption , and dancing and singing students(we have seen the videos)

One more reason which proves that DMBS is an impostor and not a true Dai.

By the way still waiting for 2 things
1) LaceWala recent picture with his "feku Mola" ,
2) Bhakt's version of the so-called raza and hiqmat given by DMBS behind demolishing the many kabrs in Ahmedabad

DMBS : Dawedaar Mufaddal Bhai Saheb
As usual bhai u make jo sense. Did i say the making of Jamea goes from the vajebaat. The running might be. Also Do you even know the project cost and if the Dai zamaan is or is not contributing personally. You arcan factless

Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 3:45 am
by HJK
Moiz_Dhaanu wrote: Sun May 27, 2018 4:32 pm For all those "feku bhakts" of DMBS who claim that DMBS uses wajebaat money of bohras to build jamiya.Wrong!!..here is the proof..
he asks money separately for Jamiya

This was distributed worldwide to ask for money for Marol jamiya...

But unlike DMBS, true duats of previous times , actually established the true Surat jamiya with heir own hard earned money.

Those time the institution of jamea was truly Dai ni zaat..but now its all corruption , and dancing and singing students(we have seen the videos)

One more reason which proves that DMBS is an impostor and not a true Dai.

By the way still waiting for 2 things
1) LaceWala recent picture with his "feku Mola" ,
2) Bhakt's version of the so-called raza and hiqmat given by DMBS behind demolishing the many kabrs in Ahmedabad

DMBS : Dawedaar Mufaddal Bhai Saheb
As usual bhai u make no sense. Did i say the making of Jamea goes from the vajebaat. The running might be. Also Do you even know the project cost and if the Dai zamaan is or is not contributing personally. You are factless

Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 3:52 am
by HJK
dal-chaval-palidu wrote: Mon May 28, 2018 1:15 am
HJK wrote: Sun May 27, 2018 10:27 am
The irony is people who pay nothing or close to nothing have the major problem whereas we have no problems. Yes we have asked for the Jamea because it is the zaat of Dai zamaan. It is the children of mumineen in it. Thats just one thing, there are 1000s of mumineen who benefit and will keep benefiting and there will always be people who will burn here and hereafter.
Sorry, just not correct. In the past couple of days I have talked to 4 people whom I know well (in our masjid), and all of us pay decent amount of wajebaat contributions. And all the 4 were complaining about how to reduce wajebaat, that it is too much (way above the wajib zakaat), and how to expalin to the janab to reduce it/keep it the same.

What you are saying is simply not the reality of what I see. And by the way, I have 2 requests if what you say is correct:

1.) You say most of those who pay nothing or close to nothing are objecting (your statement highlighted above). Others have no problem. Okay, then why this force. Just have a box where people will give whatever wajebaat they happily want to give. You say most of the big payers are happy to give, so then that should be no issue with the kothar.

2.) You say all the money is totally spent responsibly. Okay, so then why does kothar have a problem showing the accounts? It was one of the original demands of the reform movement (if I understand correctly), to have accounts transparency.

Will the kothar do either of the above two? Pretty sure we know the answer.
Many would not give it voluntarily. As parents sometimes you have to force a certain things to tour children for thier good. It is the most difficult thing to take contribute money. Shaitaan na 70 jabra todva barabar.

Give account. Did people ask Rasululah? It is like asking God to give proof of existence. Has it happened in the previous zamaan? Every penny is accounted for but Duat need not show it to anybody unless they wish to. This is not a Listed company.

Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 5:41 am
by gulam_parinda
HJK wrote: Mon May 28, 2018 3:52 am
dal-chaval-palidu wrote: Mon May 28, 2018 1:15 am

Sorry, just not correct. In the past couple of days I have talked to 4 people whom I know well (in our masjid), and all of us pay decent amount of wajebaat contributions. And all the 4 were complaining about how to reduce wajebaat, that it is too much (way above the wajib zakaat), and how to expalin to the janab to reduce it/keep it the same.

What you are saying is simply not the reality of what I see. And by the way, I have 2 requests if what you say is correct:

1.) You say most of those who pay nothing or close to nothing are objecting (your statement highlighted above). Others have no problem. Okay, then why this force. Just have a box where people will give whatever wajebaat they happily want to give. You say most of the big payers are happy to give, so then that should be no issue with the kothar.

2.) You say all the money is totally spent responsibly. Okay, so then why does kothar have a problem showing the accounts? It was one of the original demands of the reform movement (if I understand correctly), to have accounts transparency.

Will the kothar do either of the above two? Pretty sure we know the answer.
Many would not give it voluntarily. As parents sometimes you have to force a certain things to tour children for thier good. It is the most difficult thing to take contribute money. Shaitaan na 70 jabra todva barabar.

Give account. Did people ask Rasululah? It is like asking God to give proof of existence. Has it happened in the previous zamaan? Every penny is accounted for but Duat need not show it to anybody unless they wish to. This is not a Listed company.
Are bhai tame logo khushnaseeb cho ke DMBS tamara pase ti raqam lai raya che ane tamare sawab apwa nu ahsaan ane karam kari raya che...1 rupiya na badal tamare 70 rupiya malse...(just like in morning sawali says gareebo ki suno wo tumhari sunega...Tum 1 rupiya doge wo sawa lakh dega)Baki DMBS ne su jaroorat che paisa ni ....Badri mahal ma rumo bharela che rupiya thi...😉😉

Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 5:56 am
by SBM
Did people ask Rasululah? It is like asking God to give proof of existence
Rasullah pbuh did not take money from people to sustain his humble life style. He worked while doing the Khidmat of Islam
When was the last time, these FAT CATS wearing WHITE ROBES worked in their life?
AND STOP COMPARING DAIS TO RASUALULAH, these blood suckers Dai does not even come close to the dirt on the feet of our Prophet. :twisted: :evil:

Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 7:11 am
by HJK
gulam_parinda wrote: Mon May 28, 2018 5:41 am
HJK wrote: Mon May 28, 2018 3:52 am

Many would not give it voluntarily. As parents sometimes you have to force a certain things to tour children for thier good. It is the most difficult thing to take contribute money. Shaitaan na 70 jabra todva barabar.

Give account. Did people ask Rasululah? It is like asking God to give proof of existence. Has it happened in the previous zamaan? Every penny is accounted for but Duat need not show it to anybody unless they wish to. This is not a Listed company.
Are bhai tame logo khushnaseeb cho ke DMBS tamara pase ti raqam lai raya che ane tamare sawab apwa nu ahsaan ane karam kari raya che...1 rupiya na badal tamare 70 rupiya malse...(just like in morning sawali says gareebo ki suno wo tumhari sunega...Tum 1 rupiya doge wo sawa lakh dega)Baki DMBS ne su jaroorat che paisa ni ....Badri mahal ma rumo bharela che rupiya thi...😉😉
Yes Indeed bhai

Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 7:17 am
by HJK
SBM wrote: Mon May 28, 2018 5:56 am
Did people ask Rasululah? It is like asking God to give proof of existence
Rasullah pbuh did not take money from people to sustain his humble life style. He worked while doing the Khidmat of Islam
When was the last time, these FAT CATS wearing WHITE ROBES worked in their life?
AND STOP COMPARING DAIS TO RASUALULAH, these blood suckers Dai does not even come close to the dirt on the feet of our Prophet. :twisted: :evil:
I rather not comment on this. People like you would be speaking to your fathers in far worst manner it seems. You do not have any idea that every rupee is accounted and not used for any personal use. I am telling you that every penny is accounted for.

Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 7:20 am
by allbird
HJK wrote: Sun May 27, 2018 10:27 am
HJK wrote: Sun May 27, 2018 10:08 am
No expense is included
The respect will never decrease, only alot more enemies in the zamaan together like many previous zamaans. The shaan will be seen rather is seen.
The irony is people who pay nothing or close to nothing have the major problem whereas we have no problems. Yes we have asked for the Jamea because it is the zaat of Dai zamaan. It is the children of mumineen in it. Thats just one thing, there are 1000s of mumineen who benefit and will keep benefiting and there will always be people who will burn here and hereafter.
Ok i agree that Dai Zamaan wanted Jamea but why in places like Marol, if he wanted then built somewhere in else, there is no space in Marol. People are displaced from colony of Taher Saifuddin Moula RA and literally threaten to vacate. If Dai Zamaan wanted his Zaat then demolish Saifee Mahal and built one there why do Julm on poor mumineen. How can you make you dream projects on someone else Kabr. These are NOT CHARACTERISTICS OF Dai of Imam Husain or Mumluke -e-Alle Mohammad. From what i heard from reliable source SMB RA said no to Jamea in Marol due to space constraint but then Amil ( Malhoon) along with few Shezadaas plotted and forced SMB to SAY YES.

Only someone confirm this and make HJK bhai smell the roses :shock: :shock:

Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 7:31 am
by allbird
Give account. Did people ask Rasululah? It is like asking God to give proof of existence.

And Yes Allah SWT did give proof of his existence "Read Surah Rehman" ... "Read Surah Noor" Allah SWT is not afraid of anyone0. You ask and HE WILL show. But Moula is afraid to give accountability. In fact we do his Zaifaat and feed him well but in return the way they treat us in Saifee Mahal like lower class people Achhots (untouchables).

I have a gut feeling Narendra Modi has learnt somethings from our Dawaat, extremism and making unnecessarily adversaries so mumineen and stay occupied in fighting, while they rule. First there were people from Udaipur, now we have SKQ. Breeding hatred in the hearts of humans is easier then actual love, peace and tranquility

Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 7:45 am
by allbird
I am a regular visitor at Shia Asna Ashari Masjid and they collect Wajebaat Aka Khums in white Chadders. People just throw their envelopes in that chadder. Unlike in bohri Jamaat we have to 4 different offices to visit before actual Wajebaat Thakmi.

1.> Jamaat members opening your outstandings saabils

2.> jamea Chamchas interrogation how many Miqaats you do every year. And they want your ejamaats updated.

3.> Thali outstanding personal and contribution to poor who cannot affort thali. In reality NO POOR get Thali without Mooniiiesss.

4.> Qazaan dudes Taheri Scheme, Mohammadi Scheme and Hasana Scheme contribution PLUS Najwa to Dai, Imam uz Zaman, Kothar, Ainul Jamaat.

5.> Then comes the torture chamber, "Aa bhai ni file Aapoo"

Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 8:14 am
by allbird
SBM wrote: Mon May 28, 2018 5:56 am
Did people ask Rasululah? It is like asking God to give proof of existence
Rasullah pbuh did not take money from people to sustain his humble life style. He worked while doing the Khidmat of Islam
When was the last time, these FAT CATS wearing WHITE ROBES worked in their life?
AND STOP COMPARING DAIS TO RASUALULAH, these blood suckers Dai does not even come close to the dirt on the feet of our Prophet. :twisted: :evil:


Well Said....... :lol: :lol:

These so called Shezadas flaunt like prince and princess's ....parasites...And yes our Dawaat is like LISTED company if not then why close Door meetings like SBUT invite all Bhendi Bazaar in meetings ? Dawaat ni Rasm Aka Company Culture, Top executives ( Shaikhs and Mullah ). Board of Directors (Shezadas ) CEO (Dai Zaman). What more do i explain, you need to sharpen your pencil before writing fact less information.

Bhai HJK give as much as you want (Secretly - Makfi ma) don't write gobar (cow pooh) about children needs be corrected and forced to give Wajebaat.....ummmm...... Doesn't it sound more like Yazids way of ruling forcing Iman Husain and Childrens for Baite........ BE aware Allah SWT destroyed Pheron once he can do it again.

Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 9:26 am
by gulam_parinda
HJK wrote: Mon May 28, 2018 7:11 am
gulam_parinda wrote: Mon May 28, 2018 5:41 am
Are bhai tame logo khushnaseeb cho ke DMBS tamara pase ti raqam lai raya che ane tamare sawab apwa nu ahsaan ane karam kari raya che...1 rupiya na badal tamare 70 rupiya malse...(just like in morning sawali says gareebo ki suno wo tumhari sunega...Tum 1 rupiya doge wo sawa lakh dega)Baki DMBS ne su jaroorat che paisa ni ....Badri mahal ma rumo bharela che rupiya thi...😉😉
Yes Indeed bhai
So you agree...That they are International Bhikhari...

Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 10:34 am
by HJK
allbird wrote: Mon May 28, 2018 8:14 am
SBM wrote: Mon May 28, 2018 5:56 am
Rasullah pbuh did not take money from people to sustain his humble life style. He worked while doing the Khidmat of Islam
When was the last time, these FAT CATS wearing WHITE ROBES worked in their life?
AND STOP COMPARING DAIS TO RASUALULAH, these blood suckers Dai does not even come close to the dirt on the feet of our Prophet. :twisted: :evil:


Well Said....... :lol: :lol:

These so called Shezadas flaunt like prince and princess's ....parasites...And yes our Dawaat is like LISTED company if not then why close Door meetings like SBUT invite all Bhendi Bazaar in meetings ? Dawaat ni Rasm Aka Company Culture, Top executives ( Shaikhs and Mullah ). Board of Directors (Shezadas ) CEO (Dai Zaman). What more do i explain, you need to sharpen your pencil before writing fact less information.

Bhai HJK give as much as you want (Secretly - Makfi ma) don't write gobar (cow pooh) about children needs be corrected and forced to give Wajebaat.....ummmm...... Doesn't it sound more like Yazids way of ruling forcing Iman Husain and Childrens for Baite........ BE aware Allah SWT destroyed Pheron once he can do it again.
You need to question God than why people with good deeds in jannat and with bad deeds not, u would also need to question Him for darajah in jannah. Why everybody is not equal there. Everything here happens with Allah taala s will so why upar neeche.
And you beware 100 s like majdu and suleman came and went Dawat has flourished and will.

Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 10:52 am
by HJK
gulam_parinda wrote: Mon May 28, 2018 9:26 am
HJK wrote: Mon May 28, 2018 7:11 am

Yes Indeed bhai
So you agree...That they are International Bhikhari...
Yes indeed we are khushnaseeb. History will tell you how people against Duat have become bhikaris. The coming time will tell us that. We will have the last laugh. Insha Allah

Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 11:00 am
by objectiveobserver53
State of Mufaddalies. Labeling every person who explodes out of frustration as “davedar.” As though Fatemi Dawat have nothing better to do than to send shrieking women to pay wajebaat to MS!
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Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 11:31 am
by ajamali
objectiveobserver53 wrote: Mon May 28, 2018 11:00 am State of Mufaddalies. Labeling every person who explodes out of frustration as “davedar.” As though Fatemi Dawat have nothing better to do than to send shrieking women to pay wajebaat to MS!

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Hahahahahaha This lady is definitely not davedar because she is willing to rub her nose on the ground in maafi to MS :lol: I gotta agree with Mr Dhaanu here - kaha se kaha pohcha diya :lol:

Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018

Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 10:10 pm
by Pandora786
objectiveobserver53 wrote: Mon May 28, 2018 11:00 am State of Mufaddalies. Labeling every person who explodes out of frustration as “davedar.” As though Fatemi Dawat have nothing better to do than to send shrieking women to pay wajebaat to MS!

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Astaghfirullah these happened during Ramzaan! The state this dawaat has gone from bad to worst. I appalled after seeing this. OMG!

Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018

Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 8:05 am
by allbird
very shameful video, especially on international level where people from all over the world can watch. Not only by Bohra but other community. This lady video recorded but apparently this story is repeated in all bohra masjids through out the world. Same story everywhere. Moula moula moula....more......money money money.

SHAME SHAME SHAME....
HJK bhai please write your comments on this video and let us know the truth.

Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018

Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 8:33 pm
by Reporter
This is an old video but bears repeating for the arrogance this shameless man!


Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018

Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 10:50 pm
by Mkenya
Appended below is a poignant exposure of the "johukmi" behaviour of the Hebatullah brothers in Nairobi, Kenya. Sherebanu and her ex-husband are descendants of the famous Sheikh Yamani, who was the right-hand man of 51st.

I Sherbanu Yamani who is a Dawoodi Bohora and a believer of Holiness Syedna Ali Qadar Mufaddal Saifuddin Moula (T.U.S). I don't not mean or intend to talk anything ill about the community or whatsoever. However, the person(s) mentioned above are the owners of Hebatullah Brothers & Impala Glass Industries, and never in my life have I ever seen such cruel, disrespectful and inhuman like them. I normally go to pay the Islamic Zakaat every Ramadhan in the mosque and there has never been a time he has not accused or provoked me. I'm sure it's not only me, but many other people have had such kind of issues too.

Today, Wednesday 30th May, 2018, I went to the Town Mosque to Pay our yearly Islamic Zakaat which we normally give. Despite not being well and still fasting, I commuted to the Town mosque early noon to give zakaat. It's like I just go to get kicked and insulted by him and his brother Sheikh Saifuddin Ahmedali Hebatullah. It's not the first time, but every time I go, he deliberately has to insult, accuse and harass me in front of everyone, picking my family too.

Today he started with my ex husband, my family, then I. My ex husband and my Son have been ill in the hospital and when the other priests of the mosque who were part of the collection asked me how my husband and my son were feeling, Sheikh Hussain had the audacity to brutally pick on me without no apparent reason telling me in front of everyone that 'Let your husband die and I will kick him out of the cemetery calling him an animal. I was so disguised. What have my family done to him that he has to curse on them and accuse them, even that in the month of Ramadhan. After he finished with them, he accused me that I am a bad woman that's why my husband left me. He has no right to interfere in my family matters, whatever the reason my ex husband and I separated for.

These are the kind of people who pretend to be a strong follower of the community/religion, pray 5 times a day, fast all 30 days and rule the community, what's the whole point when they have such evil and dirty hearts. Eventually it was our first big night of Ramadhan when people forgive each other and pray for one another, but Sheikh Hussein Hebatullah and his brother Sheikh Saifuddin Hebatullah only have the ability to pick on people, insult them , accuse them and threaten to kick them out of the mosque and curse them in front of other priests who do nothing about it, only because they are filthy wealthy.

I wonder if these are the virtues they give to their kids and the students who go to Madressa. It is unfair the way they treat people brutally, my family and I being one of them. I am a believer of Holiness Syedna Ali Qadar Mufaddal Saifuddin Moula (T.U.S), but if I have to go through the same threats and harassment every time then I don't want to be a part of this community or religion. He is to be blamed for making me blacklisted from this community.

Not intending to sound coarse, but if he called my ex husband an "animal", he should know that he is worse than an animal and he is not even worth to be one, because animals are better than him.

The only thing he's good at is kicking people out of the mosque, harassing them accusing them offensively all the time, blacklisting them and cursing on them. Him being the head of the community should be there to help us and listen to our problems and unite everyone, but all he does is just to kick people out from the mosque and the community by harassing them etc.

It is enough and I have lost my faith in this community because of them. If there is no justice then I am not interested being part of it. When I complained this matter to Dawood Bhaisaheb who is also the head of the Nairobi Bohora community, he did not bother to listen or did anything about it. We have had enough from them and If I abandon myself from this community, they are the cause and to be blamed!!

Dear Sherebanu.
Thank you for at last seeing the truth. I told you 30 yrs back that ours is not a religion but a cult run by mafia like thugs who have assumed a demigod status. I sincerely pray that many more bohras had the guts and courage that you do.
As for Hussein and Seifuddin not giving me burial rights, I spit on them. I have arranged to be honourably buried at the nearest public cemetery.
Salim Yamani
Nairobi

This is Salim Yamani's ex wife. Sherbanu

Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 7:25 pm
by Reporter
Bolo kaun insaaf kare...


Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 9:42 am
by abbasthegreat
we should change name from dawoodi bhora to bollywood bhora :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 8:50 pm
by Reporter
Mufaddal surrounded by his devotees... and being praised to the skies!!!


Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 8:55 pm
by Reporter
Mufaddal's birthday cake....


Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:10 am
by byculla
Forwarded as recd. pic from Saleh masjid Karachi.

(Notice FMB thaali above Qibla. They link Molatona Fatema AS amal of giving food to Imams Hasan AS and Husain AS to FMB thaali !)

Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:16 am
by byculla
Latest edict from Kothar - to make topis which have design of "tears" in Ashara. See attached.

Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:05 am
by objectiveobserver53
byculla wrote: Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:16 am Latest edict from Kothar - to make topis which have design of "tears" in Ashara. See attached.
Forced economic activity. Even in the abstract it looks like bunches of grapes rather than tear drops. But hey everyone MUST BE in uniform so you will see fanatic morons making a mad rush for these ugly topis.

Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:06 am
by momeenbhai
They are stretching bit too far with all this but the good news are that most bohras are smart people and they dont take every thing seriously from kothar. but yeah 20% are die hard abdes and they will surely wear what ever is told them to wear.

Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 5:59 am
by alivasan
abbasthegreat wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 9:42 am we should change name from dawoodi bhora to bollywood bhora :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
"haramkhor dhongi actor Bohra" will be more apt for such fanatics, lunatics and thugs chor.

Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:03 am
by alivasan
Reporter wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 8:50 pm Mufaddal surrounded by his devotees... and being praised to the skies!!!

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