Re: Bohra whatsapp duniya 2018
Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 12:00 pm
Allah gave him very long life and he had billion chances to declare and he chose his SON
so get over it
so get over it
no hajamali actually joke is on you that you are still dreaming to get the majority favor by showing different youtube videos.ajamali wrote: ↑Sat Mar 09, 2019 2:58 pm If he had wanted to choose his son he would not have waited until he could not speak. He would have done it a long time ago. Get over it Mummy’s boy. SMB never picked his son. It does not surprise me that you fell for the smoke and mirrors. Because it is convenient to do so. Free is kebabs after all
There is only one leech on this forum and we all know it’s mummy’s boy and his master Muffy Boy. I did not post any video to win any opinions. I only voiced what I perceived as a lack of humanity in a video.momeenbhai wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:03 pmno hajamali actually joke is on you that you are still dreaming to get the majority favor by showing different youtube videos.ajamali wrote: ↑Sat Mar 09, 2019 2:58 pm If he had wanted to choose his son he would not have waited until he could not speak. He would have done it a long time ago. Get over it Mummy’s boy. SMB never picked his son. It does not surprise me that you fell for the smoke and mirrors. Because it is convenient to do so. Free is kebabs after all
SMB kept silent for many reasons and the foremost reason was to keep you leeches confused and out of power
as far as freebies are a concern we all know how much freebies your masters have conned from the community in last 50 years
In my humble opinion, i would rather go with a Dai who is honest enough to say that he is not all-knowing, all-aware. It may have worked 50 years ago, 30 even, but it doesnt hold any water now.
You know what, i feel that the real reformists from Udaipur had issues with the way the community was run, not with the office
Please show me where it says that just because "dai being next to imam during satr is like the foundation of our faith" he can't fall sick, get mentally and physically incapacitated? Do you think in the past da'is did not get sick? Maintained 100% cognitive functions till the end? Did they need doctors? Can a da'i get a toothache? A headache? Fever? Or is he immune from all that just because "dai being next to imam during satr is like the foundation of our faith"?
I agree with allbird. It might not even be 13mi raat. Above all our differences we are still muslims and teachings of Quran are strictly against spreading baseless rumors and not against making bonfires. It not like those mumineen are worshipping it, look at it as just a fun camping practice.gulam_parinda wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 2:00 pm Muslim shia vohra smaj ne holi jla kar mola ali ko apni muhabbat ka nazrana pesh kiya
pagalchoda! why dont they also start going to Kailash and Amaranth. Why do they go to Najaf & Mecca.gulam_parinda wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 2:00 pm Muslim shia vohra smaj ne holi jla kar mola ali ko apni muhabbat ka nazrana pesh kiya
Interesting display of violence and filthy language in the presence of oversized pictures of SMB and MS. Apparently the picture of SMB is not serving as a reminder of good behavior to this lot that has been led astray by their new leader. You can’t expect any better from followers of Fake 53.Moiz_Dhaanu wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:31 pm The "Pagalchoda" habits of the holi burning gangs now erupts into full fledged violence
Fwd:
JHALRA PATAN JAMAT MEMBERO NE AJE GUSSAILA MOMINEEN ÝE KHOOB KOOTI DIDA
"Kahan se kahan inko pahucha diya"
In the MS world, a good mumin is one who shouts Moula Moula loudly and jumps ahead in a line with a cash laden envelope. Since these people have never been taught that being a good human precedes being a good mumin, it is not a wonder that they are out to beat each other up.ajamali wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 2:23 pmInteresting display of violence and filthy language in the presence of oversized pictures of SMB and MS. Apparently the picture of SMB is not serving as a reminder of good behavior to this lot that has been led astray by their new leader. You can’t expect any better from followers of Fake 53.Moiz_Dhaanu wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:31 pm The "Pagalchoda" habits of the holi burning gangs now erupts into full fledged violence
Fwd:
JHALRA PATAN JAMAT MEMBERO NE AJE GUSSAILA MOMINEEN ÝE KHOOB KOOTI DIDA
"Kahan se kahan inko pahucha diya"
90% of Muffadali Munafikins are jahil hevans who know only one god and language "MONEY" period.objectiveobserver53 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 7:16 pmIn the MS world, a good mumin is one who shouts Moula Moula loudly and jumps ahead in a line with a cash laden envelope. Since these people have never been taught that being a good human precedes being a good mumin, it is not a wonder that they are out to beat each other up.ajamali wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 2:23 pm
Interesting display of violence and filthy language in the presence of oversized pictures of SMB and MS. Apparently the picture of SMB is not serving as a reminder of good behavior to this lot that has been led astray by their new leader. You can’t expect any better from followers of Fake 53.
Hear this crook of nalasopara a father in law of innocent guy talking to his wife and daughter how to harass the innocent boy and his family and settle marital scores. grandmother of daughter stays in virar.alivasan wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 5:35 am90% of Muffadali Munafikins are jahil hevans who know only one god and language "MONEY" period.objectiveobserver53 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2019 7:16 pm
In the MS world, a good mumin is one who shouts Moula Moula loudly and jumps ahead in a line with a cash laden envelope. Since these people have never been taught that being a good human precedes being a good mumin, it is not a wonder that they are out to beat each other up.
Now for next 30 days this so called fraudsters abdes, progs, afrikans likewise will only crib abt MONEY..only thing talked abt most..kimanu manu kim atla apu. koye ketla loota..ramadan has lost entire charm and meaning and just confined to this money thing no place for knowledge or seeking forgiveness..see who is posting godmoney..didnt find better name..godmoney wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 2:59 pm Forward as receive
Hussaini masjid bhendi bazaar Mumbai
Amil no smallest scam no jalak (ajin ghaana Mota scam che)
Ramadan ma jaman na har ek thal par amil no Lago commission 3000rs per thaal 1500 from Tazeem and 1500rs from Caterers. 80 thaal nu minimum target aapu Che committee ne Amil yeh.humna sudhi 10 thaal pan Nathi thaya Kem k logo na forceful paisa maage Che.
All masjid in Mumbai for example qutbi masjid (bhindi bazaar) , Fatemi masjid (bhendi bazar), husami masjid (madanpura),Jamali masjid(Mustafa bazar), nagdevi masjid,Badri Mahal etc etc don't take single rupees for Ramadan iftar jaaman.je ne jitla niyaaz ma aapva hoi te aape but no force
But Hussaini mohallah na amil no commission waste per card per person na 5200rs lai che..garib si garib na 2100rs lai Che. Je financially stable na hoi ne Anna ghare e ,ma ,Bawa wife ne 2 baccha hoi toh 6x5200 ya 6x2100 kaha si lave.
Taame fmb thali ne paisa toh PURA waras na lo Cho but Ramadan ma toh aapta Nathi aana paisa pan khai jai Che amil.
On top of that amil chamcha say sukaar manaavo masjid ma namaaz padhva na paisa Lidha Nathi warna next year si e pan aapva parse. amil chamcha say Tamara baap AC nu bill nai bharta chup chap paisa aapo 5200 per person per card as chamcha have to meet the Amil target.
Aaje Amil nu Bayaan ma kai Che logo ne iftar karvanu itlu sawaab Che toh taame Kem nai follow karta ...commission lav Cho..
6-7 waras phela ek Amil ne Hussaini mohallah na logo yeh Maari ne police ne bulavu haatu. Amil na dikra no kurto Fari nakho haato ..bhadha chamcha ne maare lo Che Laage Che chamcha Bhuli gaya Che.
Aa msg bhadha ne forward karo Badri Mahal ma bhada ne khabar parvi joi....agar amil nai sudhro toh humare sudharta aavre Che ...koi ne pan force Karu Che Ramadan na jaman card na paisa toh video ma maar khata huwa taamare Facebook par viral thai jaaso..pachi aapjo jawab media ne keh aa Che real face of bohra religion.
Aava Amil karta toh koi aalim namaaz parave toh better Che. Ne masjid ma aava si koi nai roki saktu agar as per law agar himat Che toh roki ne joi lav.
howz the josh ? bohri quam is doomed to hell fire in this world and hereafter as there maal is not halal and they beg, borrow and steal do anything just to flaunt there living standardjuzer esmail wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 1:18 am *Wajebaat – Your Ignorance is bliss for the Exploiters*
Definition – Wajebaat is the plural of Wajib, which means obligatory as per the pillars of the Shariah of Islam
Let us look at the form that is generated and sent to you after the sabeel is paid. Sabeel is of two types
Chula Sabeel – Per family / (literally – kitchen)
Establishment Sabeel – per business establishment
This is fixed by Kothar, is non-negotiable and increased every three years
Form Page 1 – in Lisane Daawat
The title says that the wajebaat is collected as per the order of “Shariate Garra” or the Shariah of the Lady, not Rasulallah. The lady implied here is Hurratul Maleka, who appointed the first Dai.
Table A
Zakatul Fitra Mardo (Men)
Zakatul Fitra Bairo (Women)
Zakatul Fitra Gair Balig (Children)
Zakatul Fitra Hamal (Embryo)
Zakatul Fitra Amwat (Deceased)
Silatul Imam – it is meant for Imamuz Zaman
Nazarul maqam – meant for the sahebe Maqam (Imam)
Najwa – Dai ul Asra
These heads complete Table A
Table B
Zakaat ul Maal
Nazarul maqam
Khums
Kaffara
Minnat vagere
Najwa
These heads complete Table B
The total of A + B is called Wajebaat
Page 2
This page is in English and is for other payments
Hadiya – Salaam Mazoon Saheb
Hadiya – Salaam Mukasir Saheb
Hajje badal
Khidmate Ramdaniyah
Niyaz
Now let us understand each head, its nature and what that implies:
Fitra is a charity to ensure acceptance of your worship in the month of Ramadan and is supposed to be given to the poor of the community who otherwise would not be able to celebrate Eid.
Silatul Imam in Table A is to be given to the Imam uz Zamaan and is the same or in lieu of Khums in Table B. Thus we are required to pay twice for the same. Silatul Imam is a certain amount in silver paid in times of peace and Khums is one fifth of the annual saving in times of Jihad or War. Thus now when the Imam is not at war, Khums is totally redundant.
Nazarul Maqam is a wish an individual makes in times of difficulty, so by nature is voluntary. Also it comes twice in Form A and Form B.
Najwa of Dail Asra – means gift to the Dai of the time. From its definition it is clear that it is not Obligatory.
*Zakaat ul Maal* – It is to be paid at 2.5% of the increase in the Net Worth of the family at the end of the year. This is the only part which is obligatory. As per the Islamic laws, the first right on Zakaat is poor relatives, then comes direct charity to poor, the third preference is indirect charity through someone, which in case of Bohras is the Kothar or Vazaarat.
*Khumus* – we have already discussed it under Silatul Imam.
*Kaffara* – It is to be paid as atonement for missing out Rozas for reasons beyond the control of an individual such as ill health etc, which can be compensated either by doing them later or doing charity at the rate of ½ a kilo of grains per roza lost.
Minnat is the same as nazarul maqam, a wish made which is to be paid if it comes true, so is voluntary. The same thing comes thrice under various names.
Najwa – Gift to Dai is obviously a voluntary thing and cannot be called wajib. The same applies to Hadiyah of Mazoon and Mukasir Sahebs.
Hajje Badal is the amount to be paid in lieu of doing Hajj, for your deceased parents if they have missed hajj. Obviously, you can’t pay it for yourself in your own lifetime. So, if your parents were Hajis, then this head is redundant. If not then it is a one time payment, not every year.
Khidmate Ramadaniyah – This is a voluntary contribution to be paid for the services of the janaab, leading the prayers in Ramadan.
As is clear, the only compulsory / mandatory / obligatory part is the Zakaat-ul- Maal as per Islam. Everything else is optional and up to you.
*Choose Carefully!*
The josh is very high my friend, given that it is the holy month of Ramzan.
juzer esmail wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 1:18 am *Wajebaat – Your Ignorance is bliss for the Exploiters*
Definition – Wajebaat is the plural of Wajib, which means obligatory as per the pillars of the Shariah of Islam
Let us look at the form that is generated and sent to you after the sabeel is paid. Sabeel is of two types
Chula Sabeel – Per family / (literally – kitchen)
Establishment Sabeel – per business establishment
This is fixed by Kothar, is non-negotiable and increased every three years
Form Page 1 – in Lisane Daawat
The title says that the wajebaat is collected as per the order of “Shariate Garra” or the Shariah of the Lady, not Rasulallah. The lady implied here is Hurratul Maleka, who appointed the first Dai.
Table A
Zakatul Fitra Mardo (Men)
Zakatul Fitra Bairo (Women)
Zakatul Fitra Gair Balig (Children)
Zakatul Fitra Hamal (Embryo)
Zakatul Fitra Amwat (Deceased)
Silatul Imam – it is meant for Imamuz Zaman
Nazarul maqam – meant for the sahebe Maqam (Imam)
Najwa – Dai ul Asra
These heads complete Table A
Table B
Zakaat ul Maal
Nazarul maqam
Khums
Kaffara
Minnat vagere
Najwa
These heads complete Table B
The total of A + B is called Wajebaat
Page 2
This page is in English and is for other payments
Hadiya – Salaam Mazoon Saheb
Hadiya – Salaam Mukasir Saheb
Hajje badal
Khidmate Ramdaniyah
Niyaz
Now let us understand each head, its nature and what that implies:
Fitra is a charity to ensure acceptance of your worship in the month of Ramadan and is supposed to be given to the poor of the community who otherwise would not be able to celebrate Eid.
Silatul Imam in Table A is to be given to the Imam uz Zamaan and is the same or in lieu of Khums in Table B. Thus we are required to pay twice for the same. Silatul Imam is a certain amount in silver paid in times of peace and Khums is one fifth of the annual saving in times of Jihad or War. Thus now when the Imam is not at war, Khums is totally redundant.
Nazarul Maqam is a wish an individual makes in times of difficulty, so by nature is voluntary. Also it comes twice in Form A and Form B.
Najwa of Dail Asra – means gift to the Dai of the time. From its definition it is clear that it is not Obligatory.
*Zakaat ul Maal* – It is to be paid at 2.5% of the increase in the Net Worth of the family at the end of the year. This is the only part which is obligatory. As per the Islamic laws, the first right on Zakaat is poor relatives, then comes direct charity to poor, the third preference is indirect charity through someone, which in case of Bohras is the Kothar or Vazaarat.
*Khumus* – we have already discussed it under Silatul Imam.
*Kaffara* – It is to be paid as atonement for missing out Rozas for reasons beyond the control of an individual such as ill health etc, which can be compensated either by doing them later or doing charity at the rate of ½ a kilo of grains per roza lost.
Minnat is the same as nazarul maqam, a wish made which is to be paid if it comes true, so is voluntary. The same thing comes thrice under various names.
Najwa – Gift to Dai is obviously a voluntary thing and cannot be called wajib. The same applies to Hadiyah of Mazoon and Mukasir Sahebs.
Hajje Badal is the amount to be paid in lieu of doing Hajj, for your deceased parents if they have missed hajj. Obviously, you can’t pay it for yourself in your own lifetime. So, if your parents were Hajis, then this head is redundant. If not then it is a one time payment, not every year.
Khidmate Ramadaniyah – This is a voluntary contribution to be paid for the services of the janaab, leading the prayers in Ramadan.
As is clear, the only compulsory / mandatory / obligatory part is the Zakaat-ul- Maal as per Islam. Everything else is optional and up to you.
*Choose Carefully!*
"Arwa and others like her should break out of their folds of luxury and 'nose-in-air' persona."Mkenya wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 3:03 pm Agree; her pain is real. Waiz/Bayans are have been used by 51, 52, 53....to propagate their agenda. Agenda, which has not changed in decades. Arwa and others like her should break out of their folds of luxury and 'nose-in-air' persona. They should plunge into the community where there are widows, orphans, sick, hand-to-mouth, physically and mentally disabled members live and help them. No doubt, it would be a shocking exposure and rude awakening for them. Arwa, show some spine, collect all your disgruntled bensahebas and lead and organize them to undertake social work. For many of you it will be rude awakening. You need to get off your high horse and see how an uncared segment of Bohras live. Arwa, your poems reflect your hurt. You need to see and feel the 24/7 hurt of people who are REALLY HURTING.
"Wah beta tu kare to Ram leela dusra kare to character dhila.". zip your mouth your hypocrite fence sitter. It is this holy month to introspect yourself and look in mirror and ask first do you earn halaal money? This Ginger keeps spitting all time here on forum now posing as most pieous for a month.zinger wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 12:19 amThe josh is very high my friend, given that it is the holy month of Ramzan.
As to who is doomed to hell fire and who's maal is not halal, i do hope you realise that your Roza gets invalidated when you say things lilke this!!
Why not just bother about your own self and your own deeds and Karm?
If we are destined for hell, as you so strongly believe, why do you want to join us there by writing such things while fasting?
Look after your own amal my friend, we will look after ours
alivasan wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 1:03 am"Wah beta tu kare to Ram leela dusra kare to character dhila.". zip your mouth your hypocrite fence sitter. It is this holy month to introspect yourself and look in mirror and ask first do you earn halaal money? This Ginger keeps spitting all time here on forum now posing as most pieous for a month.zinger wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 12:19 am
The josh is very high my friend, given that it is the holy month of Ramzan.
As to who is doomed to hell fire and who's maal is not halal, i do hope you realise that your Roza gets invalidated when you say things lilke this!!
Why not just bother about your own self and your own deeds and Karm?
If we are destined for hell, as you so strongly believe, why do you want to join us there by writing such things while fasting?
Look after your own amal my friend, we will look after ours
bhai ghare jai ne sui jazinger wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 2:58 amalivasan wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 1:03 am
"Wah beta tu kare to Ram leela dusra kare to character dhila.". zip your mouth your hypocrite fence sitter. It is this holy month to introspect yourself and look in mirror and ask first do you earn halaal money? This Ginger keeps spitting all time here on forum now posing as most pieous for a month.
Relax my friend, dont get so hot under the collar.
i can assure you my money is completely halal. each and every paisa
i think you have me confused with someone else. this zinger hardly ever posts here anymore
PS i wont even try to pose as most pieous, but yes, i will certianly try and not make unnecessary comments, unlike what you are doing at the moment
Well said br. Zingerzinger wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 12:19 amThe josh is very high my friend, given that it is the holy month of Ramzan.
As to who is doomed to hell fire and who's maal is not halal, i do hope you realise that your Roza gets invalidated when you say things lilke this!!
Why not just bother about your own self and your own deeds and Karm?
If we are destined for hell, as you so strongly believe, why do you want to join us there by writing such things while fasting?
Look after your own amal my friend, we will look after ours