Mufaddal Saifuddin Coming to Canada

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Babu Shia
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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin Coming to Canada

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Unread post by Babu Shia » Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:32 am

Aqa Moula can visit any place any where he wishes. He will be given full honor by the government of Canada InshaAllah.
Few napaks doing fitna will burn in fires of jahnnum.

bohra_manus
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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin Coming to Canada

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Unread post by bohra_manus » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:51 pm

Reporter wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 5:12 pm
Good people, can you please sign this petition and also encourage others -- friends and family -- to do so. Thank you.
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zinger
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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin Coming to Canada

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Unread post by zinger » Tue Feb 05, 2019 5:47 am

Done

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin Coming to Canada

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Unread post by Reporter » Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:37 am

More than 400 people signed up in the last few days. Keep it up!! Thank you so much.
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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin Coming to Canada

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Unread post by hypocritebohra » Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:01 am

Seems Mississauga AAmil is busy going from house to house begging for Ikram Funds , he barges in uninvited, and then threatens , black mails or cajoles depending on the response he gets, for each family to give compulsorily give CAD7200, and for retired and students CAD5000, shere is no option out but pay or else!!!!. May Allah give the strength to Missisauga momins to face up to these bullies

Mkenya
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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin Coming to Canada

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Unread post by Mkenya » Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:36 pm

"May Allah give the strength to Mississauga momins to face up to these bullies".

May Allah give the strength to the WHOLE Bohra community, not just Mississauga momins to face up to these bullies.
But pay up they will; whether it is CAD 7200 or CAD 5000. And let us not forget that on top of Ikram there are many other dues;
pagla, zaifat, mishak, nikah, wajebaat, makdam majlis, etc. So jaago Mukhliso - dig deeper and be assured
that your place in jannate-firdaus will be assured. He has recently shuffled Mazun and Mukasir to guarantee that with
those able persons no Abde will remain mehroom.

hypocritebohra
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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin Coming to Canada

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Unread post by hypocritebohra » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:58 am

Any updates is he going to Canada or chickened out scared of the strong and vociferous progressive bohras movement there?

Mkenya
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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin Coming to Canada

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Unread post by Mkenya » Mon Apr 15, 2019 1:43 pm

I do not forsee any visit to Canada, may be, until after Ramadhan. Let us not be lulled into thinking that he will not visit Canada. His coterie of facilitators, bearing monetary gifts, will win the day. My contention is that people in this and other similar forums do not have in their midst people who can lead a delegation to the appropriate Canadian ministers to present their case. For such an effort a delegation of well versed, knowledgeable, professionals are an absolute requirement. As a first step they need to cultivate inroads into the goverment minister who has among is portfoloi to handle with such matters. Casual and regular connections be maintained with this individual to brief him about the current situation in our community; why the division and acrimony are present, dossiers with personality profiles of people in Kothar who stage-manage the whole show, etc. Among the next steps would be explain the Canadian quandry to him, brief him with our difficulties, etc.
The whole idea has to be professional and not come acroos as a rag-tag bunch of people who have been sidelined and ostracised. Displaying pictures of SM hunting animals is but a moot point. Prepare statistics of population of Bohras in Canada to back with numbers. Enumerate fully the the exhorbitat taxes, levies, and other pretexts of collecting money. Elaborate on how cooercion to immediate famiy is used to force a dissident 'shit-disturber" toe the line. Having briefed the minister what should one expect. On the postive side: a diplomatically worded
reply: we shall look into it and get back to you; or that ours is an internal communal matter and if no violence occurs nothing will be done.
All said and done this going to end up in an academic exercise. If we look back a few years ago when Kothar wanted to sneak-in the "Corporation Sole" proviso to usurp and take control of all Bohra properties in Canada a few very astute and professional Bohras approached MPS. ministers and members of the Senate to thwart the coup. Now that is what I would call a roaring success that we are very proud of.

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin Coming to Canada

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Unread post by bohra_manus » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:48 pm

Mkenya wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 1:43 pm
I do not forsee any visit to Canada, may be, until after Ramadhan. Let us not be lulled into thinking that he will not visit Canada. His
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"Corporation Sole" proviso to usurp and take control of all Bohra properties in Canada a few very astute and professional Bohras approached MPS. ministers and members of the Senate to thwart the coup. Now that is what I would call a roaring success that we are very proud of.
I agree with Br MKenya on this. I think the political climate in Canada today is heating up due to upcoming elections. This is when each party tries to mingle with vote banks (e.g. Sikhs, Hindus etc). Kothari chamchas here will be offering money to the election campaign in exchange for favors like welcoming SMS or giving him state welcome (police escort etc.). This will then be touted as "maula ni su nirali shaan che".
Current Canadian Immigration Minister is Muslim with Somali decent. Not sure if he will be helpful in preventing Muffy's entry in Canada.

Mkenya
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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin Coming to Canada

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Unread post by Mkenya » Tue Apr 16, 2019 1:30 pm

bohra_manus: Thank you for your input. To make any meaningful impact a committee of like-minded people from this forum should be put
together. Its mandate would include building a 'thoss' file which would include among other things, history of the reign and its atrocities of 51, 52 and 53. Also, the intricasies of how Kothar works and its ways to coerce people to pay money, their failed housing projects, zari funds and so on. I would be the first to be part of that committee and I would like to ask members on this forum to join as well. No doubt it will require time and a lot of effort. The committee could also approach others who have previously collected such material. The end result would be to present to the Minister a factual document. That in itself might or might produce the desired result of barring MS from visiting Canada but it will definitely demonstrate that there is a vocal group opposed to his visit. OTHERWISE posting of ill-handled communal issues, videos of infantile happenings in jamaats, off-handed comments on jamaat issues serve only the purpose of entertainment.

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin Coming to Canada

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Unread post by Mkenya » Tue Apr 16, 2019 1:34 pm

I would welcome messages from posters who would to offer their services to the proposed committee.