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kimanumanu
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Unread post by kimanumanu » Fri Nov 07, 2014 3:50 am

The website was taken down but thanks to the internet archive it is still preserved:
https://web.archive.org/web/20030307023 ... batin.com/

haqniwaat
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Unread post by haqniwaat » Fri Nov 07, 2014 10:12 am

The corresponding recordings have been posted on the previous pages.

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Unread post by adna_mumin » Fri Nov 07, 2014 10:24 am

haqniwaat wrote:The corresponding recordings have been posted on the previous pages.
Thanks haqniwaat. Request Admin to pin this somehow (to say the nass audio clip thread?) and stick it, so it doesnt get lost.
I believe its far too important to get lost again...

Do you have more? I mean with any where there are other voices on the other side?

haqniwaat
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Unread post by haqniwaat » Fri Nov 07, 2014 3:07 pm

I will try and post all these in one thread.

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Unread post by haqniwaat » Fri Nov 07, 2014 3:16 pm

The website was taken down but thanks to the internet archive it is still preserved:
https://web.archive.org/web/20030307023 ... batin.com/

Recordings attached.
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Zahir_batin_in_every_kitaab.mp3
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Nairobi_episode.mp3
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Mazoon_Mutlaq.mp3
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Unread post by allbird » Fri Nov 07, 2014 9:50 pm

Shocking facts, how do this people behave ?? Black devils in white clothing.

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Unread post by Adam » Fri Nov 07, 2014 10:44 pm

The author of this website has already accepted and admitted his mistakes to Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin.
Taizoon BS is has already come to India and given Misaq to Syedna Mufaddal TUS.

If you don't beliee me, why don't you ask him?

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Unread post by alam » Fri Nov 07, 2014 11:08 pm

Adam
Witnesses retract all the time. Prisoners get tortured into confessions for crimes they have not committed.
Who cares who gives misaaq to SMS or not?
Don't we all know what a joke that has become for SMS and company!
They (SMS and company) are the ones who have no respect for their own broken Misaaq from past so many decades. ?

Is this the best defense you have of this zahir
-baatin website? It only shows more of your masters' crimes against truth and justice.

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Unread post by Crater Lake » Fri Nov 07, 2014 11:14 pm

Adam wrote:The author of this website has already accepted and admitted his mistakes to Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin.
Taizoon BS is has already come to India and given Misaq to Syedna Mufaddal TUS.

If you don't beliee me, why don't you ask him?
Ha ha ha. If I had a nickle for every time you are wrong, I would be sooo rich.

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Unread post by haqniwaat » Fri Nov 07, 2014 11:25 pm

What Happened to Taizoon BS
(Observations of a khidmat guzaar in muffadal bs' office)

After being whisked away following his zahir batin website, thanks to Mumbai police support, Taizoon bs fled to the USA. After a few months, he appeared in London under Shehzada Qaiid Johar bs and his misaaq was taken in front of witnesses at the London masjid. He was to be taken to Germany, where Syedna Burhanuddin RA was present for medical treatment at the time, but nobody has any record of him actually being taken there. Of course, mufaddal bs was also in Germany at the time.

Then he was taken to Mumbai, where he spent a year under house arrest of Shehzada Idris bs. He was told to do maafi in public to all other bs. Must have been very humiliating for him, but that was the idea. Many have heard Idris bs telling him that someone 'may come and smack you because everyone is still very angry at you'.

Then one day he was brought to Badri Mahal and escorted to mufaddal bs' office, but he was apparently told that he was being taken to Huzaifa bs' office. He must have been shocked after this deception. Mufaddal bs' wife and others, including myself, were also there, but we were told to leave after Taizoon bs had done salaam to mufaddal bs and mufaddal bs left the room. I could still hear what was being said. Shk Mohammed Husain was talking to Taizoon bs and he said something about reciting an ayat (Rabbana zalamna anfusana...) in front of everyone in Rozat Tahera during the urs majlis at night. Something about so everyone can see him, what he looks like, and he is to ask all mumineen to forgive him for posting his zahir batin website.

Then Ashara was in Dubai and the Ezzi brothers were after him. They were trying to find out which hotel room he was in. We all know why. He was always under threat of violence and everyone, especially Badrul bs and Taha bs were trying to find the right spot to beat him up severely. Maybe that is why he always looked so scared whenever I saw him, understandingly so.

Finally, he was no longer seen after Syedna Burhanuddin RA went to USA for Boston masjid iftitah. He must have been freed after that, possibly because he is a US citizen, and there must have been some enquiry on his behalf.

Last I heard, he had umuruddin raza for over 9 years in Clark County, Nevada. Apparently there are mumin families there.

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Unread post by haqniwaat » Fri Nov 07, 2014 11:32 pm

http://www.bohranet.com/jamaat-americas
His name is listed here under Clark County, Nevada.

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Unread post by Crater Lake » Sat Nov 08, 2014 12:40 am

haqniwaat wrote:http://www.bohranet.com/jamaat-americas
His name is listed here under Clark County, Nevada.
Well we certainly wish him peace. He is a courageous and righteous person indeed.

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Unread post by dal-chaval-palidu » Sat Nov 08, 2014 4:56 am

Adam wrote:The author of this website has already accepted and admitted his mistakes to Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin.
Taizoon BS is has already come to India and given Misaq to Syedna Mufaddal TUS.

If you don't beliee me, why don't you ask him?
If he has really given misaq to SMS, that may almost be "proof/confirmation" that misaqs are taken under duress.

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Unread post by SBM » Sat Nov 08, 2014 5:02 am

Adam wrote:The author of this website has already accepted and admitted his mistakes to Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin.
Taizoon BS is has already come to India and given Misaq to Syedna Mufaddal TUS.

If you don't beliee me, why don't you ask him?
Adam
I did ask him and yes he was in Bakersfield for Ashura and yes SMS did create a fissure in his family life. As far as Misq you did take Misaq of SKQ as Mazoon and so did SMS and all the Shezaadas, did they fulfill their Misaq?
While Taizoon;s Misaq to SMS may be under duress your's and SMS's Misaq to SKQ as Mazoon was not. Did you commit sins by not fulfilling your oath (Misaq)

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Unread post by MMH » Sat Nov 08, 2014 5:36 am

Adam wrote:The author of this website has already accepted and admitted his mistakes to Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin.
Taizoon BS is has already come to India and given Misaq to Syedna Mufaddal TUS.

If you don't beliee me, why don't you ask him?


Adam....that's the lollest thing I have ever heard!!!! Lol lol lol!

You need to check up your sources because they seem to be highly unreliable. ..

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Unread post by allbird » Sat Nov 08, 2014 6:59 am

Total subjugation, using very sadistic approach. So now where does Rasuallah (SWT) or Moula Ali (A.S) or Moulatena Fatema Zahra come into picture. Where is Islam here !

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Unread post by pheonix » Sat Nov 08, 2014 9:22 am

Heard the videos for the first time and cant understand what the excitement was all about back then.
The Taizon guy seemed like an absolute illiterate speciallly in the uloom of Haqaiq, and its laughable that the proggies think that he did something really great.

Are there any more audio tapes which have any more substance?

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Unread post by kimanumanu » Sat Nov 08, 2014 9:27 am

They did shake up kothar though and ultimately this Ashara in Surat, Dai himself confirmed that indeed Mazoon was being targeted all those years.

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Unread post by Crater Lake » Sat Nov 08, 2014 10:55 am

pheonix wrote:Heard the videos for the first time and cant understand what the excitement was all about back then.
The Taizon guy seemed like an absolute illiterate speciallly in the uloom of Haqaiq, and its laughable that the proggies think that he did something really great.

Are there any more audio tapes which have any more substance?
You are a little slow...So let me explain why. Everyone on these tapes is more or less admitting that batin Mazoon is different. Whereas Burhanuddin Aqa kept insisting that was not so and he himself took Mazoon's name in misaaq till the very end. In effect, everyone in Saifee Mahal was contradicting Aqa Moula - including MS. Get it? Apparently your mastery of of the twisted uloom of Haqaiq that you received from those people did not help you deduce this little thing.

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Unread post by everest » Sat Nov 08, 2014 11:10 am

Hats off to this Taizoon bs for his courage to blow the whistle on the hatred that existed for Mazoon saheb Syedi KQ. May Allah reward him for speaking the truth in the face of the tyrant and oppressive regime. Respect!

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Unread post by Adam » Sat Nov 08, 2014 12:21 pm


1. What am I wrong about?

2.This is a typical Qutbi = Proggy debate.
Whatever Taizoon Bs position is, it really doesn't matter (so why is Haqniwaat adamant on re-posting everything?)
Whatever the site says, or doesn't. Or whatever Taizoon bs or the Qutbi's believe. Whether it is true or a conspiracy theory, This has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with Nass