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babu
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Udaipur

#1

Unread post by babu » Tue Jul 15, 2008 1:33 pm

Some one told me that There was a " Shaheed Rajab Ali" ;) you know yaar

Aarif
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Re: Udaipur

#2

Unread post by Aarif » Tue Jul 15, 2008 3:01 pm

Babu,

Can you please elaborate as to what do you mean by this post? Most of the times you use highly cryptic language and it looks like some defence intelligence code very difficult to interpret...

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Re: Udaipur

#3

Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Tue Jul 15, 2008 4:14 pm

aareef,

you misunderstand the mutterings of an idiot and a mentally challenged retard to be the musings of an intelligent person.

a highly cyptic defense code from this empty brain? you must be joking...!!

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Re: Udaipur

#4

Unread post by Aarif » Tue Jul 15, 2008 4:27 pm

You bet... I was joking.. :D

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Re: Udaipur

#5

Unread post by jayanti » Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:58 am

I bet... you must be joking ;)

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Re: Udaipur

#6

Unread post by babu » Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:06 am

;)

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Re: Udaipur

#7

Unread post by Aarif » Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:26 pm

I bet... you must be joking
Jai Aunty,

Congrats!! for writing your first post without major grammatical errors. See you are learning how to read and write by visiting this site. And that is a sign of progress ;)

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Re: Udaipur

#8

Unread post by jayanti » Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:06 am

O

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Re: Udaipur

#9

Unread post by babu » Sun Jul 27, 2008 2:29 pm

Not a JOKE yaar , SHIMPLLYY AASHKING

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Re: Udaipur

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Unread post by jayanti » Mon Jul 28, 2008 12:08 am

:confused:

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Re: Udaipur

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Unread post by babu » Sat Aug 09, 2008 7:57 am

Originally posted by Aareef:
Babu,

Can you please elaborate as to what do you mean by this post? Most of the times you use highly cryptic language and it looks like some defence intelligence code very difficult to interpret...
sure

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Re: Udaipur

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Unread post by babu » Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:43 pm

Originally posted by Aareef:
Babu,

Can you please elaborate as to what do you mean by this post? Most of the times you use highly cryptic language and it looks like some defence intelligence code very difficult to interpret...
The real story is : Rajab ali was watching the stone throwing ( which is very popular style of combating in Udaipur :D ) suddenly a stone came very near to him .

he had a heart attack by this, and died.

After this incident Engineer saab awarded " SHAHEED " title to him.

disgusting naaa ????

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Re: Udaipur

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Unread post by Aarif » Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:48 pm

disgusting naaa ????
Indeed ;)

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Re: Udaipur

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Unread post by babu » Tue Aug 19, 2008 4:30 am

:D :D

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Re: Udaipur

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Unread post by babu » Sat Sep 20, 2008 11:33 am

फिर उलझे यूथ व शबाब
पुलिस संरक्षण में हुई 2॰ वें रोजे की नमाज
Friday 19 Sep, 2008 08:29 AM
उदयपुर, बोहरवाडी स्थित मोईदपुरा मस्जिद में शबाब और यूथ गुट में मामूली बात को लेकर तनातनी हो जाने पर माहौल गर्मा गया। पुलिस व प्रशासनिक अधिकारियों ने मौके पर पहुंचकर समझाइश कर माहौल को शांत किया।
हुआ यूं कि दाउदी बोहरा समाज के शबाब गुट की ओर से आज अली की वाईज का कार्यक्रम था। इस कार्यक्रम की सूचना शबाब गुट की ओर से जिला प्रशासन को दी गई और यह बताया कि 18 सितंबर को अली की वाईज होने के कारण शबाब गुट की भारी भीड उमडेगी। इसलिए यूथ गुट से आग्रह करें कि वे जौहर व असर की नमाज यहां नहीं अदा करें। इस पर पुलिस प्रशासन ने यूथ गुट के नेताओं को बुलाया और उनसे आग्रह किया कि शबाब गुट की वाईज होने के कारण आप जौहर व असर की नमाज अन्य कहीं अदा कर सकते हैं। इस पर यूथ गुट के नेताओं द्वारा समर्थन देने के बाद दाउदी बोहरा समाज के शबाब गुट की पूर्व निर्धारित कार्यक्रम चल रहा था, जिसमें भारी भीड उमडी। मोईयदपुरा मजिस्द आज शबाब गुट के अनुयायियों से खचाखच भर गई। यहां तक की सडक पर भी टैंट के नीचे भी लोगों ने नमाज अदा की। इसी दौरान दोपहर को यूथ गुट की महिलाएं नमाज अदा करने के लिए वहां आई। उन्हें जगह नहीं मिलने पर वे उलझ पडी और दोनों पक्षों में तनातनी हो गई। मौके पर मौजुद पुलिस अधिकारियों ने यूथ गुट की महिलाओं को कहा कि पूर्व निर्धारित कार्यक्रम के अनुसार यूथ गुट को आज जौहर व असर की नमाज अन्य स्थान पर अदा करनी होगी। इस पर यूथ गुट की महिलाएं अपने ही नेता को कोसते हुए वहां से चली गई। इसके बाद शबाब गुट ने जौहर व असर की नमाज पुलिस संरक्षण में अदा की। तनातनी के बाद माहौल को उत्तेजित देखते हुए तुरंत बोहरवाडी में अतिरिक्त पुलिस बल तैनात किया गया। माहौल को गर्माते देख एसपी अनिल पालीवाल ने सभी अधिकारियों को बोहरवाडी की ओर कूच करने के आदेश दिए। आदेश के अनुसार पुलिस उप अधीक्षक बृजेश सोनी, नरपत सिंह व सुधीर जोशी मय पुलिस बल के साथ वहां पहुंच गए। पुलिस संरक्षण में दोनो समय की नमाज हुई। शाम को मगरीब की नमाज यूथ व शबाब गुट ने एक साथ मोईयदपुरा मस्जिद में अदा की। नमाज शांतिपूर्वक हुई। ऐहतियात के तौर पर अतिरिक्त पुलिस बल तैनात किया गया है।

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Re: Udaipur

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Unread post by S. Insaf » Sat Sep 20, 2008 1:38 pm

Quoted by Babu:
The real story is : Rajab ali was watching the stone throwing (which is very popular style of combating in Udaipur)suddenly a stone came very near to him. He had a heart attack by this, and died. After this incident Engineer saab awarded " SHAHEED " title to him.

Brother Babu,
It is a blatant lie and that too in the month of Ramadan.
The fact is that on 6th of Moharram, 18th June 1975 there was a sudden attacked by the fanatic Bohras of Shabab (orthodox) group well equipped with dead weapons on the Bohras of Youth group (reformists) when they were busy in Moharram majlis in Moiyadpura masjid of Udaipur. Among many other Mr. Rajab Ali received very serious knife wounds and died, leaving behind the mark and the memory of the tyranny of a person who claims to be the Dai of Imam Husain. That is why he is called ‘Shaheed’ by the local Bohras.

Your malicious intentions are clear as you are purposely dragging Dr. Asghar Ali Engineer’s name in the incident. Please remember ‘Allah’ is watching you, if at all you believe in Allah.
Off course we know that our priesthood servives on the falsehood. But please do not become a partner in their crime.

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Re: Udaipur

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Unread post by S. Insaf » Sat Sep 20, 2008 1:42 pm

If the Shabab and the Youth members can offer Magrib namaz together why the Youth members were driven out at the time of Zohar and Asar namaz? That shown that at Zohar and Asar times the masjid was used for some other perpose, which is wrong.

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Re: Udaipur

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Unread post by Smart » Sun Sep 21, 2008 1:27 am

@S. Insaf,
Now don't expect any response from the regressives. All the laughing, winking, grinning and other such responses are part of the nudge-nudge, wink-wink culture that is promoted, through the cliched thinking.

When you bring on the light of reason and logic to any thread of discussions, these ghosts run away. This trend is clear from most of the posts, even begun by the regressives.

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Re: Udaipur

#19

Unread post by Safiuddin » Sun Sep 21, 2008 3:09 am

Al Zulfikar good to have you back. :)

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Re: Udaipur

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Unread post by babu » Sun Sep 21, 2008 7:06 am

Originally posted by S. Insaf:
If the ...... the masjid was used for some other perpose, which is wrong.
Read the news carefully, word by word , it said हुआ यूं कि दाउदी बोहरा समाज के शबाब गुट की ओर से आज अली की वाईज का कार्यक्रम था। ....

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Re: Udaipur

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Unread post by babu » Sun Sep 21, 2008 7:11 am

Originally posted by S. Insaf:
Brother Babu,
It is a blatant lie and that too in the month of Ramadan.
The fact ................ servives on the falsehood. But please do not become a partner in their crime.
:) Reconfirm it with Mr. Abid Adib :)

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Re: Udaipur

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Unread post by S. Insaf » Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:18 am

Dear Babu bhai,
You have not approached Mr. Abid Adeeb, President Dawoodi Bohra Jamat-Udaipur. If
You have approached him for confirmation of late Rajab Ali’s death and Mr. Abid Adeeb has forgotten about it, can you please give me the date and place where you met him. It is a request.

Anyway I am reproducing here a report of the incident in Blitz weekly dated 25th January 1975 under the heading:
“LIVING EXAMPLE OF DAI-UL-MUTLAQ’S BARBARISM AND ATROCITIES”
with photographs of the wounded persons and Mr. Rajab Ali’s dead body in the hospital.

UDAIPUR: 18th Junuary, 1975, (by Blitz reporter)
The heads of Sayedna Mohammed Burhanuddin and his henchmen should hang in shame for the most inhuman brutalities inflicted on the reformist Bohras.
This is not the first time that such cruelties were perpetrated on the reformist Bohras struggling to free themselves from the strangle-hold of the priestly hierarchy. But it is indeed the first time that the cruelties have touched the borders of barbarism. The reformist Bohras believe in the same God whom the Sayedna worships. The reformist Bohras follow the same Prophet in whose name the faithful of the Sayedna mislead the innocent and simple-minded Bohras for their selfish ends.
On 10th of Moharram every year the Muslims all over the world congregate to mourn the martyrdom of Imam Husain wherever they may be. But for the reformists of Udaipur the 10th of Moharram came 5 days earlier when the Hooligans of the Sayedna fell upon them like hungry hounds. The Moiyadpura mosque in which the reformist were busy listening to the sermons of martyrdom of Imam Husain with hearts full of grief and sorrow, turned into a battle field of Karbala. The sermon was on when 150 reactionary followers of Sayedna entered the Mosque, escorted by the local police, in the form of a procession. The police allowed them to enter the mosque and closed the doors from outside. The newcomers first sat down among the mourners as if they had come to listen to the sermons. However, soon it was known that their intentions were ugly. These hood links at a pre-arranged signal suddenly stood up raising cries of:
Allah-ho-Akber,
The time for Jihad has come.
Attack the enemies of Sayedna.
To shed the blood of the enemies of Sayedna is the command of Lord.
Today is the opportunity to please our Aqa Maula.

These goondas were armed with knives, daggers and other sharp weapons. The holy Mosque was turned in to a battle field. Aged and defenseless people fell prey to their attack and on entire floor of the Mosque lay the injured, moaning and crying for help.
This reported met one aged Bohra reformist Rajab Ali on his death bed in hospital full of injuries and a 13 year old girl who was thrown from the first floor of the Mosque, that had broken her spinal cord.
Thus the followers of the Yazid inflicted grievous injuries on more than 200 progressive Bohra of whom 30 people were admitted in the general hospital at Udaipur, where the condition of 3 of them is critical ……………………………………………….. (It is long article mentioning other atrocities and appeal to Rajasthan and Central Government etc.)

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Re: Udaipur

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Unread post by babu » Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:02 am

You are making an all-out effort to win this discussion ,

The story is well known in streets of Bohrawadi at Udaipur . No need to go to Abid Adib.

Blitz ??? isnt it is " Jurrat" 's new name ?

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Re: Udaipur

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Unread post by SBM » Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:16 am

^
Babu
You are double faced person, in this posting you disagree with Blitz reporting but in another thread when I question when was the last time Progressive attacked anyone you referred to Blitz
SO WHICH FACE DO YOU HAVE

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Re: Udaipur

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Unread post by jayanti » Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:13 pm

Omabharthi,
Can u give your identity.....Its a request

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Re: Udaipur

#26

Unread post by Aarif » Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:16 pm

Can u give your identity.....Its a request
Jai Aunty,

Can you give your identity?? It's an order.. ;)

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Re: Udaipur

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Unread post by SBM » Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:30 pm

Jayanti

You can write to me on omabharti@indiatimes.com or abde53@hotmail.com

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Re: Udaipur

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Unread post by babu » Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:36 am

Originally posted by omabharti:
^
Babu
You are double faced person, in this posting you disagree with Blitz reporting but in another thread when I question when was the last time Progressive attacked anyone you referred to Blitz
SO WHICH FACE DO YOU HAVE
Madam ,

I referred to Blitz becoz

Blitz = Jurrat = Chronical

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Re: Udaipur

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Unread post by Smart » Thu Oct 02, 2008 2:20 pm

^
I wish that babu had the intelligence and integrity to question the Kothari propaganda with the same alacrity that he applies to others including third and neutral parties like Blitz and Mumbai Samachar, which are not run by the progressives.

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Re: Udaipur

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Unread post by babu » Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:58 am

S. Insaf wrote:Dear Babu bhai,
You have not approached............... and a 13 year old girl who was thrown from the first floor of the Mosque, that had broken her spinal cord.[/b]
.....................Rajasthan and Central Government etc.)
Very Nice Story , add some Namkeen and PAPDAA into it too .Why didnt you add the names of Mr. Gulam Hussain , Jaipury , Ibrahim Engineer .... ETC. :P

Anyway Name of that 13 Year Girl is ..... ?????