Syedna saheb's message on This Ramadan

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Syedna saheb's message on This Ramadan

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Unread post by accountability » Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:49 pm

Syedna saheb's message was relayed this ramadan throughout the world. it was half an hour address. Syedna saheb through out emphasized on giving wajebat, he misquoted quranic verses, which never corrobrated this message. For the amount of wajebat, he said, that there is no measure, his words are the measure, or in another word, his appointees will decide the amounts, though exorbitant, but to be paid.

syedna saheb did not elobrate, how an average or poor bohra will get to pay this. He was reading from a written text, many times he stumbled and repeated sentences.

his message did not contain a word about help to other mumineen, or he did not advise sons to help their parents, or brothers their brothers. Ramadan's message of philanthropy and virtues was lost among his rhetorical repetence of giving money to his administration, that too withouut any islamic justification.

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Re: Syedna saheb's message on This Ramadan

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Unread post by SBM » Sun Sep 07, 2008 6:40 pm

So what's new...........
It is Wajebaat or Purjosh Maatam.........

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Unread post by Smart » Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:40 pm

Bhai accountability,
Can you post a link to a video or audio record of this address? It would be interesting.

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Unread post by accountability » Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:51 am

it was played in all masjids and markaz. I checked mumineen.org or malumaat. But they have not posted it on line.

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Unread post by Hozefa » Mon Sep 08, 2008 6:12 am

I have one 1000GB hard disk complete full and other one half full containing such messages and Bayaans.. how to downloadn web?? I have NO idea.

If somebody knows how to do it, I am ready for lending him the hard disk.

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Re: Syedna saheb's message on This Ramadan

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Unread post by humble_servant_us » Mon Sep 08, 2008 8:29 am

The bayaan was also played in our masjid. Sayedna saheb kept on stressing to pay wajebaat more and more. But the point is what is "more".

If i have "x" amount due, than probably anything more than "x" is more. Nowhere sayedna told how to determine the value "x".

This was a great oppurtunity for him to explain the ahkaam of wajebat, most of the bohras would have learnt how to calculate their dues.

I think probably keeping masses uneducated on this subject is that if people start calculating on their own, many will be exempted from paying anything which is a loss to them.

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Unread post by Hozefa » Mon Sep 08, 2008 8:44 am

Guys, sorry to say that the hard disk was already formatted due to download something which was more interested than that video clips.

regardZ

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Unread post by Smart » Mon Sep 08, 2008 3:38 pm

@hus
Ask gulf, he is quick with his numbers!

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Unread post by Safiuddin » Tue Sep 09, 2008 12:38 am

I too would be interested i hearing this bayaan. Since malumaat and mumineen have not posted it, i've been unable to hear it. I wonder if the whole thing can be posted as a bit torrent somewhere to be downloaded individually?

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Re: Syedna saheb's message on This Ramadan

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Unread post by babu » Mon Sep 15, 2008 7:17 am

Originally posted by Hozefa:
Guys, sorry to say that the hard disk was already formatted due to download something which was more interested than that video clips.

regardZ
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