Pointless card system
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Pointless card system
I cannot understand where in a religion whereby we are all created equal, us as human beings decide to delegate where or where not we can sit in the house of god on the basis of our finacial earnings and the colour card we hold. We all know Idris Bhai Saaab is a murderer yet we all seem to worship the ground he walks on. And when did it becomce custom for us to teach our kids to kiss phtos of Seydna TUS. Does it not say in Islam NOT to create IDOLS!¬!!!!! we are obsessed wiht this figure, where more care should be taken over who Allah is rather than wat is on the jamaats menu for the jamaan.
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This only happens in Bohra Religion
- Where Your worth in financial term dictates your piety
- Where you can be made subjugated to any and every type of humiliations
- Where you get little report card (saffai chitti) to indicate what a good/bad boy you have been
- Where you have a totally undignified way to refer yourself as Dog-Of-Sayedna
- Where tyrants control your wealth, your health and your soul in the name of God
- Where Allah is irrelevant and the kaba of Bohras redirected to point towards Burhanuddin
- Where Your worth in financial term dictates your piety
- Where you can be made subjugated to any and every type of humiliations
- Where you get little report card (saffai chitti) to indicate what a good/bad boy you have been
- Where you have a totally undignified way to refer yourself as Dog-Of-Sayedna
- Where tyrants control your wealth, your health and your soul in the name of God
- Where Allah is irrelevant and the kaba of Bohras redirected to point towards Burhanuddin
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Sayedna Sahib’s administration would do anything to have tighter control over we Bohras in order to make makes their slaves and non-questioning commodities. It is for us to fight out card system. Go to any mosque or dargah or musaferkhana and refuse to show any card and if the local in charge stops you from entering inform the police and create such incidents everywhere. Then only it will come to public notice and to the notice of the Supreme Court where these Kotharis are posing themselves as obedient citizens of this country.
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Who is Idrees Bhaisaheb and why is he called a murderer?
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Dr. Idris Zakiuddin is the Amil of London since many years. Staying at Mohammadi Park, Rowdell Road, Northold, Middlesex, UBS 6AG U.K.
Tel: 020 8841 5623
He is an eye-specialist by qualification but has never practiced. He was sentenced to one year jail for killing a British couple in car accident allegedly under influence of over dose of liqour. He was bailed out by Agakhan. Hence he is a murderer. Because of his arrogant and tyrany nature he is also called Iblis Bhai Saheb.
Tel: 020 8841 5623
He is an eye-specialist by qualification but has never practiced. He was sentenced to one year jail for killing a British couple in car accident allegedly under influence of over dose of liqour. He was bailed out by Agakhan. Hence he is a murderer. Because of his arrogant and tyrany nature he is also called Iblis Bhai Saheb.
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Point of clarification etc.:
Dr. Idris is marrried to Syedna's half-sister. She was previously married (and widowed)to a Shezada who drowned in Juhu (two newly wed Shehzadas had drowned) in a swimming accident during the late fifties!
He was charged and jailed for man-slaughter for an accident of a British couple (caused by driving under the influence (perhaps of potent medication - as a doctor he should have known better! that's what the court ruled)
He was not assisted by the Aga Khan but by some supposed British lords/peers (alleged men friends of the then London Jamaat Secretary - Sex, er Sheikh Valiji.). They came to testify during his sentencing as good character witnesses.
Dr. Idris received a six month's training in Vienna (Austria)in Opthalmic medicine - not surgery. We have seen him at Moorfield Eye Hospital in London England working as an outpatient physician during the late sixties!
For a long time, when he immigrated to England, he lived in Notting Hill area in London in a Council home (homes for those on social assistance or lesser income). When Margaret Thatcher, the UK Prime Minister got rid (privatized) some of these homes, Kothar bought these at a throw-away cost from the local Council. Now it is a choicest and trendy area to live in London.
Dr. Idris is marrried to Syedna's half-sister. She was previously married (and widowed)to a Shezada who drowned in Juhu (two newly wed Shehzadas had drowned) in a swimming accident during the late fifties!
He was charged and jailed for man-slaughter for an accident of a British couple (caused by driving under the influence (perhaps of potent medication - as a doctor he should have known better! that's what the court ruled)
He was not assisted by the Aga Khan but by some supposed British lords/peers (alleged men friends of the then London Jamaat Secretary - Sex, er Sheikh Valiji.). They came to testify during his sentencing as good character witnesses.
Dr. Idris received a six month's training in Vienna (Austria)in Opthalmic medicine - not surgery. We have seen him at Moorfield Eye Hospital in London England working as an outpatient physician during the late sixties!
For a long time, when he immigrated to England, he lived in Notting Hill area in London in a Council home (homes for those on social assistance or lesser income). When Margaret Thatcher, the UK Prime Minister got rid (privatized) some of these homes, Kothar bought these at a throw-away cost from the local Council. Now it is a choicest and trendy area to live in London.
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Dr Idris has been in London at least since 1965.
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Dear Momineen,
Thanks for correction. My knowledge was based on certain newspaper cuttings recieved from London during Dr. Idris trial.
Thanks for correction. My knowledge was based on certain newspaper cuttings recieved from London during Dr. Idris trial.
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Thanks S. Insaf:
By the way it is Dr. Idris Zainuddin (not Zakiuddin)who is the Aamil of the London Kothari Jamaat.
It would be an interesting read and of historical value if the website could post scanned articles of the trial, including the newspapers cuttings etc.
By the way it is Dr. Idris Zainuddin (not Zakiuddin)who is the Aamil of the London Kothari Jamaat.
It would be an interesting read and of historical value if the website could post scanned articles of the trial, including the newspapers cuttings etc.
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S. Insaf on Sept 14, 2003 responded re. Dr. Idris:
"My knowledge was based on certain newspaper cuttings recieved from London during Dr. Idris trial."
We asked on Sept 15, 2003:
"It would be an interesting read and of historical value if the website could post scanned articles of the trial, including the newspapers cuttings etc. "
Well, are these available to authenticate the facts?
"My knowledge was based on certain newspaper cuttings recieved from London during Dr. Idris trial."
We asked on Sept 15, 2003:
"It would be an interesting read and of historical value if the website could post scanned articles of the trial, including the newspapers cuttings etc. "
Well, are these available to authenticate the facts?
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Sorry Frieds, Right now I am busy on an impotant project will come back soon.
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As S. Insaf is now back, can he kindly now respond to our following post of 09-22-2003 10:49 PM
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S. Insaf on Sept 14, 2003 responded re. Dr. Idris:
"My knowledge was based on certain newspaper cuttings recieved from London during Dr. Idris trial."
We asked on Sept 15, 2003:
"It would be an interesting read and of historical value if the website could post scanned articles of the trial, including the newspapers cuttings etc. "
Well, are these available to authenticate the facts?
We are not rying to be rude but our training in forensic auditing and law enforcement teach us to "trust but verify".
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S. Insaf on Sept 14, 2003 responded re. Dr. Idris:
"My knowledge was based on certain newspaper cuttings recieved from London during Dr. Idris trial."
We asked on Sept 15, 2003:
"It would be an interesting read and of historical value if the website could post scanned articles of the trial, including the newspapers cuttings etc. "
Well, are these available to authenticate the facts?
We are not rying to be rude but our training in forensic auditing and law enforcement teach us to "trust but verify".
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S. Insaf:
Are you NOW able to support your following assertion of posted 09-14-2003 03:17 PM from the "certain newspaper cuttings recieved from London" that:
- He is an eye-specialist by qualification but has never practiced;
- He was sentenced to one year jail for killing a British couple in car accident allegedly under influence of over dose of liqour;
- He was bailed out by Agakhan;
- he is a murderer;
If you can not, as a responsible executive of the progressive Mumbai jamaat, apologise for these unsupported sensational journalistic embellishments or outright mistruths.
Are you NOW able to support your following assertion of posted 09-14-2003 03:17 PM from the "certain newspaper cuttings recieved from London" that:
- He is an eye-specialist by qualification but has never practiced;
- He was sentenced to one year jail for killing a British couple in car accident allegedly under influence of over dose of liqour;
- He was bailed out by Agakhan;
- he is a murderer;
If you can not, as a responsible executive of the progressive Mumbai jamaat, apologise for these unsupported sensational journalistic embellishments or outright mistruths.