It makes all the difference! The Messenger of God SAW clearly stated that he would leave behind two things: The Quran and the Ahlul Bayt AS, and the two will not separate.Biradar wrote:It makes absolutely no difference. Imam's behavior is not Sunnah for us to follow. They are only infallible as to religious things. Not secular things like hunting etc. The first and only criteria is to test against the Qur'an. The Qur'an clearly and unambiguously preaches a message of compassion for all created things. Hence, sports hunting of big-game species, as I have shown in the post above (which you continue to ignore) in great detail, is illegal and, more importantly, unethical.TaherH21 wrote: According to Fatimid-Ismaili beliefs, hunting is allowed. I have proven it by giving multiple accounts of at least two Imams (AS) hunting.
Also, if the Imam's were so powerful and infallible in worldy matters, how come the Fatimid Empire collapsed? Imam Mustansir was in such dire straits that he lost control of the empire and had to wait till Sayedna Badrul Jamaali rescued him. Then, in a few more decades the whole thing just collapsed. How come an infallible Imam could not maintain even his grip on his own kingdom?
In any case, don't quote the Imam's actions. They are not sunnah and do not prove anything. Please quote Qur'anic ayaats to show hunting big game for fun is recommended. A further task for you is to dig through the prophet's biography and prove that he liked to hunt for fun and that he recommended that his family members and descendants do so. Just number of the Qur'anic ayats will be enough. Waiting your reply eagerly.
Your logic, in my opinion is a flawed one because it can be used to debunk any text or religion, even the Quran (God forbid anyone from doing this).
I do not want to go down this route, but if you insist:
The Quran preaches compassion indeed. But critics of Islam have very different interpretations. I don't agree with the following but for the purpose of what I am trying to say I shall state it:
When al Khidr AS killed the boy in front of Musa Nabi AS, would you call that compassion? He hadn't committed any sin yet. (I'm not disagreeing with al Khidr AS, I am just making a point by the way)
With regards to you saying the Ikhwan as Safa was wrong when it comes to physical sciences, please tell me, do you believe the world was created in 6 days as per what is written in the Quran? Or that mountains act as pegs which prevent the ground from shaking? Do you see why your logic is flawed when it can be used to debunk the Quran (Nauzobillah)
How do you know what to take literally and what to take metaphorically? You have no right to make that judgement, only the Imam AS does (or in his seclusion the Duat RA).
With regards to Imam al Mustansir AS, don't forget he conquered Baghdad (albeit for a short while) and expelled the Abbassid sultan. God knows why the Empire was allowed to collapse, the same can be said for the kingdoms of the Biblical Prophets AS.
The Imams AS are completely infallible and immaculate, perfect in everyway. They are the best of Almighty God's servants.
If you are a Bohra (even reformist) you have no choice but to agree that the Imam AS is infallible completely.
If you are not a Bohra, why are you here?