Dream Project of Bhendi Bazar

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Hozefa
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Dream Project of Bhendi Bazar

#1

Unread post by Hozefa » Fri Aug 07, 2009 2:15 am

Highlights

Investment : 1500 Cr

786,000 Total area in Sqft

386,000 Open area for roads and greens in Sqft

400,000 Net foot prints area for buildings in Sqft

3 to 25 average floors heights

6,000,000 Gross Built up area in Sqft

5,000,000 Nett build up area in Sqft

2,000,000 Building area in Sqft to be reserved for old tenants [Res. + Comm]

3,000,000 Building area in Sqft to be sold in market rate [Res. + Comm]

7,860 Average market rate [Res. + Comm]

25,000,000,000/- [Rs. 2500 Cr.] Nett Revenue

Expenses:-

Rs. 1000 Cr. Construction Cost for Buildings

Rs. 300 Cr. Construction Cost for Infrastructure / Road and services / Parking

Rs. 250 Cr. Design + Operational Cost

Rs. 200 Cr. Taxes and Govt. Authority

Rs. 50 Cr. To be reserved for maintenance

Rs. 250 Cr. To be reserved for future expansion

Rs. 200 Cr. reserve for contingencies

Rs. 100 Cr. for temporary residence facility and compensation of business loss to existing tenants

Balance Rs. 150 Cr. Will be reserved for funds



accountability
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#2

Unread post by accountability » Sun Aug 09, 2009 7:47 pm

Total revenue is 2500 crores, not the net revenue.

Let me take you back to another mega project, it was agha khan hospital in karachi. Funded by agha khan foundation. Aga khan foundation got the land from former dictator zia ul haque (Syedna saheb was also very friendly with him) free of cost. The land is situated in the prime locality in karachi. it spreads in tens of acres, the land cost was estimated in 1982 to be more than 100 million dollars. Agha khan foundation built the hospital at the cost of 250 million dollars, which was recovered in just 3 years. Presently agha khan foundation owns in toto this multi billion dollar facility. it is employing thousands of agha khanis and providing medical service to them at nominal cost if they can not afford. On the contrary our saifee hospital in mumbai is reserved for an elite class though every bohra has contributed towards it. I have gathered that in saifee hospital bohras are not prefrential employees, rather all major departments have alien heads. Neither are bohras given medical services at compensated rates. Though through its income it could provide bohras deserving free services without any difficulty.

Coming to this mega project, it did not elobrate how would it be funded, how many bohras will get employment oppurtunities. Who are the co sponsorer. Qaid johar bhai saheb in a photo up with maharashtra chief minister tell a tell tale story. Will the remaining salebale space be reserved for bohras only. let me also remind, what will happen to those banks in the area, because according to our official stand, any business with banks are not allowed. Though many banks are tenants in jamat properties.



Smart
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#3

Unread post by Smart » Sun Aug 09, 2009 11:07 pm

^^^
This is how dreams turn to nightmares for the common bohras.



Aqa Moula_Zindabad
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#4

Unread post by Aqa Moula_Zindabad » Tue Aug 18, 2009 7:32 am

Documentary about Saifee Burhani Upliftment project was broadcasted on DD National Channel News at 1:30 IST y'day.....DD national channel has got a million times wider coverage than the local news papers which Mr. Insaaf quotes 100 times a day....its difficult to even remember the names :lol:



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#5

Unread post by Smart » Tue Aug 18, 2009 2:52 pm

^ Big Deal !
As if broadcasting by Doordarshan gives the whole thing credibility !!!
AMZ I really appreciate your sense of inconsequential repartee.



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Unread post by mumin » Tue Aug 18, 2009 6:54 pm

The karachi quettawalla hospital is the same scenario. Under private quettawalla management in the 1950s and 1960s this hospital was doing an excellent job till the kothar mangement took over. many a lives have been lost.
Another interesting case is in the south eastern u.s.a.. A residential single family home was purchased and turned into a markaz. The county has stopped its use and have given the jamaat a list of changes to be made. small communities in the southeastern united states are tired of some of these ignorant committee members that do not know anything about engineering or construction or anything at all but are making decisions and spending the mumineens hard earned money without any accountability. . The reason they are decision makers and at the right hand of the raza na saheb is not because of their education or character but because they are crooked and cunning enough to rob the mumineen of their hard earned money ; to make the maximum collection to satisfy the ever growing demands of the money hungry bhaisaheb.



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Unread post by salim » Wed Aug 19, 2009 3:35 am

The Aga khan Hospital project is comparable with saifee hospital.

A simillar comparision with Bhendi Bazar project will be Al-Azhar park constructed by Aga khan foundation. It costed around 1500 cr. and It was a gift of Aga khan to people of cario. Currently Egypt government gets all the income from the project.

The project include the restoration of 1.5 kilometres of the 12th century Ayyubid wall and socio economic initiatives in the neighbouring Darb al-Ahmar district. These include housing rehabilitation, microfinance, apprenticeships and healthcare. The Park itself attracts over one million people per year.

The project also include historic building rehabilitation - 14th Century Umm Sultan Shaban Mosque, the 13th century Khayrbek complex, and the Darb Shoughlan School

http://www.akdn.org/aktc_hcp_alazhar.asp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Azhar_Park



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#8

Unread post by Aqa Moula_Zindabad » Thu Aug 20, 2009 12:36 am

Smart wrote:^ Big Deal !
As if broadcasting by Doordarshan gives the whole thing credibility !!!
AMZ I really appreciate your sense of inconsequential repartee.
I am sure u will also appreciate "sense of inconsequential repartee" of Mr. Insaaf who keeps on quoting and pasting all the gali media news almost in his every post.....well that's i think a Big Deal for u....now i dont appreciate ur nonsense.



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#9

Unread post by Smart » Fri Aug 21, 2009 6:32 pm

I see that you don't appreciate. You need a modicum of intelligence to do that. Otherwise you would not be kissing the feet of a human being and being proud of that! Well, to each his own.



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Unread post by Aqa Moula_Zindabad » Sun Aug 23, 2009 3:27 am

Smart wrote:I see that you don't appreciate. You need a modicum of intelligence to do that. Otherwise you would not be kissing the feet of a human being and being proud of that! Well, to each his own.
Your intelligence is limited to your nonsense logics......do u acknowledge a fact "There is jannat in ur mothers feet" and of course she is a human.....whenever we do salaam to our mother we kiss her knees and feel proud of that......i m sure with ur logics u must have never enjoyed this moment......AND MOULA WE GIVE THE DARAJAH OF MOTHER AND FATHER....



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Unread post by Smart » Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:21 am

@Oma
As you would have observed, even traces of aqal are missing.
Door mats will happily look for the space under the feet. Let us leave doormats to their naseeb.



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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:27 am

Aqa Moula_Zindabad wrote:do u acknowledge a fact "There is jannat in ur mothers feet" and of course she is a human.....whenever we do salaam to our mother we kiss her knees and feel proud of that
Why dont you give this sermon to your beloved moula who refuses to acknowledge his own mother and her grave and even during his umpteen visits to surat he visits only the graves of the late dais with due pomp and show (being carried in a palkhi by his slaves) but have you seen him visiting his own mother's grave which is just next to that of the late dais ???? Have you heard him shower praises in honour of his mother the way he does for his wife on any and every given occassion ????



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Unread post by SBM » Sun Aug 23, 2009 2:33 pm

GM
Very well said.......
Is it possible that JANNAT is missing from the life of Syedna (since he does not show any respect to his mother or talks about her) and that is why they promote TA QAYAMAT JEEVO as he does not have to worry about JANNAT.



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Unread post by seeker110 » Sun Aug 23, 2009 2:45 pm

what happens to all the sheeple waiting for him to hold the hand and take them j.....



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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Tue Aug 25, 2009 5:21 pm

seeker110 wrote:what happens to all the sheeple waiting for him to hold the hand and take them j.....
Its like L.K.Advani, the prime minister-in-waiting who will have to wait life long in the waiting room only and with all the recent revolts in his party, the BJP, it is for sure that he will die with his wishes unfulfilled and his party falling apart like a pack of cards........... Doesnt it ring a bell somewhere ?????



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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Tue Aug 25, 2009 5:23 pm

Hozefa wrote:25,000,000,000/- [Rs. 2500 Cr.] Nett Revenue
"For what will it profit men that a more prudent distribution and use of riches make it possible for them to gain even the whole world, if thereby they suffer the loss of their own souls? What will it profit to teach them sound principles in economics, if they permit themselves to be so swept away by selfishness, by unbridled and sordid greed, that, 'hearing the Commandments of the Lord, they do all things contrary."

Pope Pius XI



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#17

Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:56 pm

A community of around 2 lac makes sincere efforts in providing affordable and cheap houses to its fellow members. And here we have a dawoodi bohra community of more then a million which is milked dry by its leader and inspite of having trillions of rupee stashed in their various local and foreign banks, it does too little for its followers.

Mumbai Mirror dtd 5.10.2009.

For nearly a decade, shop attendant Vasant Savla moved from one rented house to another, hoping that even with his meagre salary, one day he’d be able to live under a roof he could call his own. However, two years ago, his family was able to buy a one-room flat at Nalla Sopara, thanks to a community trust that offered him the flat at a highly subsidised rate. Now, the same trust has plans to construct a much larger scheme at Dombivli for other members of the Kutchi Visa Oswal community.

“Living in a rented house meant that we had to shift from one house to another. We lived in houses that did not have reliable water supply and were located near large drains,” said Savla, who earned Rs 6,000 a month, but was able to buy the Nalla Sopara home for Rs 2.25 lakh.

“There are thousands of families living in rented homes or in unsanitary slums. These families have monthly incomes ranging between Rs 5,000 and Rs 10,000 and are not in a position to buy homes of their own. We want to provide decent accommodation to them,” said Vasant Galia, chairperson of the Kutchi Jain Foundation (KJF).

KJF has built over 300 subsidised houses in several colonies at Nalla Sopara, which home seekers like Savla were able to buy at only a third of the flat’s value.

With its Dombivli project – its biggest housing scheme yet – the foundation will put 1,008 subsidised homes on offer. The trust has already bought 11 acres of land in Dombivli (E) for the project, which will be inaugurated after Diwali and is expected to cost around Rs 80 crore

But the foundation does not fund its projects alone – it receives help from many affluent members of the community. The Kutchi Visa Oswals – who number around two lakh in and around Mumbai – include prominent businessmen such as owners of Navneet Publications and Amarsons department store.

At Nalla Sopara, one of the many subsidised housing colonies has been named Amarsons Nagar after the business family that subsidised its construction cost.

The Dombivli community will be named Navneet Nagar, as it will be partially financed by the owners of Navneet Publications. The flats – which will range in area between 350 and 500 square feet – will cost just half of the current market price of Rs 2,200 per square foot. The complex will include Derasars or Jain temples, Upashrays or monasteries and homes for senior citizens
http://www.mumbaimirror.com/article/2/2 ... -that.html



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#18

Unread post by mutmaeen » Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:28 am

heavily subsidsed houses have been provided to needy dawoodi bohras in bangalore and vaishakhapattinam



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Unread post by Maqbool » Tue Oct 06, 2009 5:25 am

mutmaeen
heavily subsidsed houses have been provided to needy dawoodi bohras in bangalore and vaishakhapattinam
I don't know about Bangalore but please check heavily subsidized house in Vishakhapatnum. If you will go thru the conditions, you will realize that there is no difference between rented house and own house. Actually poor mumenins are cheated by Jamat.



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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:25 pm

I have been told by a very reliable source that the underworld is now telephoning the residents of Bhendi bazaar to handover their property to kothar and accept whatever compensation is offered to them. This is very much believable because it is the unwritten norm in Mumbai that no developer can finish his project anywhere in Mumbai unless and until he has an understanding with the underworld and politicians. Needless to say that the kothari chamchas on this board will vehemently deny this fact.



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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:37 am

ghulam muhammed wrote:I have been told by a very reliable source that the underworld is now telephoning the residents of Bhendi bazaar to handover their property to kothar and accept whatever compensation is offered to them. This is very much believable because it is the unwritten norm in Mumbai that no developer can finish his project anywhere in Mumbai unless and until he has an understanding with the underworld and politicians. Needless to say that the kothari chamchas on this board will vehemently deny this fact.
bro. ghulam muhammad,

this is quite possible and indeed must be happening. but the fact is that the kothar will have or must have given already, these goons quite a substantial sum for them get involved on the kothar's behalf.

well another case of "chor na bhai ghanti chor".... or birds of a feather flock together!



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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Mon Dec 14, 2009 6:41 am

It seems that the Bhendi Bazaar mega project is on a shaky ground. A few months back one pan shop at pakmodia street corner was sold for a whooping Rs.22 lacs and another 2 shops next to it (malampattiwala shops) were also sold. All the three shops now serve fast food. Hence, if at all the said project was to take shape then why would people sell off their shops now and not wait for kothar to give them a spanky modern accomodation which they promised which would then fetch them a far better price ?



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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Jan 28, 2010 5:47 pm

Dawood sells off prime plot attached by I-T

MUMBAI: For the past nine years the income-tax department has been unable to auction most of the properties owned by Karachi-based don Dawood Ibrahim. But in a smart move, the don has sold off his prime properties on Pakhmodia Street in Bhendi Bazar area and received the money by hawala, sources in the security establishment said.

The building on this plot was demolished by the BMC a few years ago and today only its debris remains. The property is expected to be part of a cluster development project. "Since the don has already got his price, he will not threaten anyone buying this property in an I-T auction," a police official said. In fact, he is believed to be using the same modus operandi to liquidate his other properties as well.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... 506892.cms



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#24

Unread post by guy_sam2005 » Fri Jan 29, 2010 6:48 am

Smart wrote:^ Big Deal !
As if broadcasting by Doordarshan gives the whole thing credibility !!!
AMZ I really appreciate your sense of inconsequential repartee.
and as if you guys writing here would.....and nightmares for which common bohras you talking bout???i am one......its no nightmare for me nor has any project been.....are u a common dawoodi bohra..sorry u aint one...
did anyone mention saifee hospital was a charitable institution????
and moreover bohras there get special consideration if they are eligible for it.............my friends dad got a surgery done there at no cost...



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Unread post by guy_sam2005 » Fri Jan 29, 2010 6:57 am

Maqbool wrote:
mutmaeen
heavily subsidsed houses have been provided to needy dawoodi bohras in bangalore and vaishakhapattinam
I don't know about Bangalore but please check heavily subsidized house in Vishakhapatnum. If you will go thru the conditions, you will realize that there is no difference between rented house and own house. Actually poor mumenins are cheated by Jamat.
thats where the problem lies.....local jumaat...our very own brother in arms...we dont have power to question them.yet alway accuse moula(tus).half the money for such projects come from there trusting our local jumaats......



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Unread post by guy_sam2005 » Fri Jan 29, 2010 7:07 am

ghulam muhammed wrote:I have been told by a very reliable source that the underworld is now telephoning the residents of Bhendi bazaar to handover their property to kothar and accept whatever compensation is offered to them. This is very much believable because it is the unwritten norm in Mumbai that no developer can finish his project anywhere in Mumbai unless and until he has an understanding with the underworld and politicians. Needless to say that the kothari chamchas on this board will vehemently deny this fact.
were u called???????????or was it u calling in name of underworld to tarnish image.....dude a sword has 2 edges.............



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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Fri Jan 29, 2010 5:10 pm

guy_sam2005 wrote:
did anyone mention saifee hospital was a charitable institution????
:mrgreen: :mrgreen:

if you can believe that, then you can also believe that the dalai lama is actually a pucca dawoodi bohra and a devout abdesyedna.. :lol: :lol:



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#28

Unread post by guy_sam2005 » Sat Jan 30, 2010 4:02 am

wat i wanna ask is where did anyone ever mention of saifee hospital being a charitable institution???did moula(tus) ever say that????????????if so in which bayaan...........



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Unread post by SBM » Sat Jan 30, 2010 8:28 am

^
May be Saifuddin Insaf can shed some light on it. I thought the whole project of Saifee Hospital was done due to court ruling in the case Adamjee Peerbhoy case v/s Syedna which clearly stated about providing certain amount of free medical care to Bohras regardless of their affiliation
THAT IS WHY I ASKED YOU HOW MANY BOHRAS HAVE RECEIVED QUALITY FREE CARE (QUANTIFIABLE PROJECT WITH DETAILS OF TREATMENT i.e days of stay-kind of service etc etc)



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Unread post by guy_sam2005 » Sat Jan 30, 2010 9:13 am

omabharti wrote:^
May be Saifuddin Insaf can shed some light on it. I thought the whole project of Saifee Hospital was done due to court ruling in the case Adamjee Peerbhoy case v/s Syedna which clearly stated about providing certain amount of free medical care to Bohras regardless of their affiliation
THAT IS WHY I ASKED YOU HOW MANY BOHRAS HAVE RECEIVED QUALITY FREE CARE (QUANTIFIABLE PROJECT WITH DETAILS OF TREATMENT i.e days of stay-kind of service etc etc)
insaaf bhai will shed light only in a room of worms..if not he will generate some first...i am still to hear 1 good quality of dai from him...
anyways...that was just a arument(bout saifee hospital)..many have got free treatment there..its been kept under wraps ...1 of my friends dad got a surgery done there...once while travellin in train i met a bohra lady from some remote..while chattin she said she has a daughter with some heart prob surgery costing 4 lakhs which is done in saifee hospital for free ...
how come insaaf bhai never comes accross such people..............and yea this case is not figment of my imagination...she said that when i did arzi i was asked to contact local aamil who in turn gave her reccommendation to Dr.moiz bhaisaab on whose instruction it was done.