only one step away from worshipping stones... !!SBM wrote:Now Abdes do Maatam in front of some stone
http://www.zeninfosys.net/zi6/sites/zen ... ic%209.jpg
wah bhai wah,,
only one step away from worshipping stones... !!SBM wrote:Now Abdes do Maatam in front of some stone
http://www.zeninfosys.net/zi6/sites/zen ... ic%209.jpg
any idea where and what is the significance of these stones? ( I mean significance in the eyes of Abde's)Al Zulfiqar wrote:only one step away from worshipping stones... !!SBM wrote:Now Abdes do Maatam in front of some stone
http://www.zeninfosys.net/zi6/sites/zen ... ic%209.jpg
wah bhai wah,,
SBM wrote:Here is the pict I hope
Khalifa AKA whoever you areproblem with most progressive/freedom minded bohras is, they have abondon SUNNAH.....
incorrect, brother,Al Zulfiqar wrote:now that ramzan is around the corner, its time people were reminded how maatam is going to be used to influence them mentally during the holy month, when instead of ibadat, there will be tauheen of roza and namaaz.
According to whom? Allah says in the Quran - fast so you may achieve taqwa. Anyone, other than Allah and his prophet (saw), who claims anything else supercedes roza, is a liar!! And I can guarantee that neither Allah nor his prophet (saw) has said anything about matam for Hussain.if matam is done by understanding the cause of Hussain(s) it becomes more mubarak then roza and sunnah nafil namaz.
Imam has said " sleep of person with knowledge is better then prayers of jhahiliyah"anajmi wrote:According to whom?if matam is done by understanding the cause of Hussain(s) it becomes more mubarak then roza and sunnah nafil namaz.
neither has hussain! but curiously, according to mansoos, hussain did sajda and prayed for the 51st and 52nd dai before he was martyred. wah bhai wah!anajmi wrote: neither Allah nor his prophet (saw) has said anything about matam for Hussain.
padhna aur hasna, woh bhi kisto mein...??bohraji wrote:LOL !
AZ Bhai, Beleive it or not. Its 3.45 A. m, and I burst out laughing reading your second paragraph. I just could not read the rest. I have left it for tommorrow.
you make it sound as if the chant is hypnotic and mind-numbing, guaranteed to dull the senses and turn one into a brainless idiot and quivering jelly??AgnosticTheist wrote:Our jamaat is already chanting "Ya Mohammed Ya Husain" every night.
I am just a normal human being with open mind. And yes, I am agnostic at times, theist at times, atheist at times and bohra most of the times (but not an "abde").Al Zulfiqar wrote: either you are an agnostic, atheist or abde bohra. you cannot be all 3..
dear AT,AgnosticTheist wrote:I am just a normal human being with open mind. And yes, I am agnostic at times, theist at times, atheist at times and bohra most of the times (but not an "abde").Al Zulfiqar wrote: either you are an agnostic, atheist or abde bohra. you cannot be all 3..
re: the perpetual pain and where it is located, this being a family oriented public forum, where 'decorum and decency' has to be maintained, i can only hint towards it. is it a 'pain in the neck'? well, i have a much 'lower' opinion. it fits. i mean its but natural considering the way this community is being shafted 24/7....JC wrote:But Bro AZ, why then abdes are crying 24/7?? Is there any perpetual pain anywhere??
i have recd a watsap mesg that kothar and muffy in particular are looking for more catchy naara's.Al Zulfiqar wrote:
some catchy naara's to whip up hysterical frenzy are being worked on, but will be along the lines of: "ya hussain ya burhan", or "ya hussain na aqa mola", and so on.... you get the drift.