Some info regarding Aqa Moula (TUS)

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Some info regarding Aqa Moula (TUS)

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Unread post by Aarif » Thu Jan 21, 2010 5:36 pm

1. 8th August 1986 was declared as "His Holiness Dr. Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin Day" by the Mayor of Houston.

2. At the age of 5, Syedna recited the Quran in a majlis. Subsequently Syedna Taher Saifuddin (RA) wrote in his Risalat Sharifa: When he recites the Quran he glows for the people of heaven as the stars glow for the people of earth.

3. When Syedna Taher Saifuddin (RA) and Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin (TUS) entered the precincts of the Kaaba, Syedna Taher Saifuddin (RA) asked: Where is the qibla from where I stand? Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin (RA) replied: You are our qibla right before us!

4. On the completion of 1400 years from the day of revelation of the Quran, Syedna delivered a speech about the Quran which was heard on All India Radio.

5. Syedna's (TUS) family including grand and great grand children today number 104. His eldest great grandchild is 23 yrs of age, whilst his youngest grandchild is 3.

6. Syedna is the first Dai al Mutlaq to travel to North Africa and retrace the historical sites of Aimmat Tahereen (SA).

7. Syedna has travelled in the Concorde, the fastest jet.

8. Syedna (TUS) cruised in the Rotterdam to Bait uil Muqaddas and in the QE II to Singapore.

9. Syedna's (TUS) voice at the age of ninety plus is so clear that a computer analysis in Germany interpreted it to be the voice of a 40 year old.

10. Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin (TUS) is the first Dai al Mutlaq to visit Europe and America.

11. Syedna receives files and letters requesting benediction or counsel by the hundreds everyday. A file stays with Syedna for no more than 24 hours before it is answered.

12. It was in 1389 Hijri that Syedna (TUS) initiated the tradition of ehya on the 30th of Shehre Ramadan.

13. Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin (TUS) built the Raudat Tahera in Mumbai over the qabr mubarak of his father. The mausoleum is the only one of its kind to have the entire Quran inscribed on its walls.

14. Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin (TUS) was born on 20th Rabei ul Akhar which corresponds to the day of zuhoor of Imam Mehdi (SA).

15. Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin (TUS) memorized the Quran at the age of 21.

16. Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin (TUS) built the Mahad uz Zahra, the first of its kind in the world for the study of the Quran.

17. Syedna's audience for his community often runs into several hours as he personally listens to individuals, sometimes numbering 3000.

18. Syedna (TUS) speaks several languages: Arabic, Lisan ud Dawat, Gujarati, Urdu, Hindi, and English.

19. Syedna (TUS) personally conducts the annual oral examinations of the students of Al Jamea tus Saifiyah in Surat.

20. During his visit to North Africa, Syedna confirmed the location of urf ud deek, literally the crest of the rooster from where Dajjal, the enemy of Imam Mansur (SA), fled.

21. Syedna (TUS) personally tutors his children and grand-children in religious texts for several hours at a stretch.

22. "This is not the Key of the City, it is the key to our hearts." This is what the Mayor of Houston said when he presented Syedna (TUS) with the Key of Houston.

23. The chief protocol officer in Sydney, when he received Syedna (TUS) said, 'I have yet to see such a powerful and pious personality.'

24. Dr. Usman Yahya (now Mohammed Yahya) when he prayed namaaz with Syedna (TUS) at Fatemi masjid, Mumbai, said afterwards, 'today I felt like I prayed behind Rasulullah.'

25. Syedna (TUS) has performed nikaah of mumineen in trains and even onboard a plane.

26. Syedna (TUS) is known in Arab countries as "Azamat us Sultan" meaning the "great soveriegn".

27. Syedna (TUS) is known in Kenya as "The Rain Maker."

28. Syedna (TUS) restored the masjid of Imam Hakim (SA), Al-Jamea-ul-Anwar, in a record time of 27 months, a feat even the UNESCO hesitated undertaking.

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:04 pm

aarif,

any particular reason for posting this here? it has been posted, if memory serves me right, atleast twice before on this forum. its a stupid list compiled by some hard-up sycophant insider whose attempts at making up a list by force to praise the syedna are so pathetic, as to make a donkey cry and get afflicted by sars, aids, mad cow, foot and mouth disease and swine flu all together...

the bio of any CEO of a fortune 500 company will be more impressive..!!

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Unread post by Aarif » Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:08 pm

Sorry for posting this again if it has already been posted before. The reason for posting this was obviously to have a good laugh... Ghanu jeevo ghanu jeevo.

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Unread post by Aarif » Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:09 pm

The funny part is that there is no Bohra CEO of fortune 500 company...

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:02 pm

thanks for clarifying arif. for a moment i thought you too had been suddenly bitten by the abde-itis virus and had gone stark raving mad... :shock: :roll:

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Unread post by guy_sam2005 » Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:26 am

Aarif wrote:The funny part is that there is no Bohra CEO of fortune 500 company...
are there any reformists????

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Unread post by SBM » Fri Jan 22, 2010 2:19 pm

^
Reformists are part of Bohra Community, they believe in Dawat, they only have problems with transparency and goondasim with the current and immediate former Dais

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Unread post by Aarif » Fri Jan 22, 2010 4:44 pm

Br. AZ,

I am literally shocked that you thought I was bitten by an abde virus. That is the only virus from which I have self-immunized myself for the rest of my life... :mrgreen:

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Fri Jan 22, 2010 6:47 pm

arif,

to add to your list as above..

29) the syedna has developed and injected the potent 'abde' virus in about 95% of his community, which can break down the mental and physical defences of his followers and make them utter strangely slavish poems, shout tearful slogans, indulge in hysterical self-flagellation, utter fanatical and dangerously sinister threats against the syedna's perceived enemies and rush to de-skin themselves to prepare traditional indian shoes in his honour. this is a tremendous feat which even the vatican acknowledges as being equal to the heydays of the papal powers when martin luther king lived, albeit foolishly enough to have lost it under tragic circumstances.

30) syedna mohd burhanuddin at the age of 98+, can still take steady aim and kill elephants and wild buffalo with high powered rifles and make them bow in sajda in front of him before they die happily and proceed straight to heaven, while reciting the kalematus shahada, followed by ghanu jeevo! this is a feat not yet emulated by any religious leader and in the annals of islamic history finds no parallel.

31) the syedna mohd burhanuddin has broken all previous dai's records in his visits to accomplish pagla, a bohra custom by which he leaves his imprints in the houses of selected and wealthy followers. this is done in lieu of a hefty fee and by this one simple act alone, he has enriched the coffers of the saifee mahal where he resides, to the point of overflowing. he is the first supreme dai to have done so.

32) he has been also the first muslim in the entire world, who although he is blacklisted to go for haj or umrah, has still got the credit for over 50,000 so far, due to his farmaans to his followers to accomplish same on his behalf. this has for the first time in islamic history defeated the evil caretakers of the kaaba and made them bite the dust.

33) he has been the first dai to have successfully laid foundation stones in the presence of presidents and prime ministers for various grandiose mega projects and yet evaded from ever bringing them into fruition. these amazing accomplishments have far surpassed the feats of the great harry houdini and david copperfield.

34) he is only the 3rd islamic leader after the prophet muhammad and ali ibne abitalib to claim the title of 'natiq-e-quran'.

35) he is the first ever muslim or muslim religious leader to exceed in spiritual stature the prophet muhammad - the founder of islam himself - by claiming the titles of 'haqiqi kaaba' and 'ghaib na malik'. this was ordained for him even before the creation of this entire universe and is mentioned in the quran by the various references to 'burhan' in the holy book.

as this is an ongoing voyage of discovery into the greatness of the syedna, we will post more such amazing and fun facts as we continue our research.

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Unread post by guy_sam2005 » Sat Jan 23, 2010 1:11 am

omabharti wrote:^
Reformists are part of Bohra Community, they believe in Dawat, they only have problems with transparency and goondasim with the current and immediate former Dais
How close have ny1 known dai's before 51st,i mean personally not through literature?

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Unread post by Smart » Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:31 pm

^
A completely irrelevant post, possibly a red herring.

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Sun Jan 24, 2010 11:21 pm

syedna's achievements contd....

36) syedna mohd burhanuddin is the first dai to supersede all previous dai's and their past practices and traditions. he has also publicly claimed so and thus has shown his superiority over all previous 51 dai's.

37) he is also the first dai to have regular medical treatments in germany, inspite of claiming to have built the best and most modern saifee hospital of india. he does this because of his love for the germans and the brainwashing programmes adopted by their past rulers like goebbels.

to be contd...

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Unread post by guy_sam2005 » Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:14 am

Smart wrote:^
A completely irrelevant post, possibly a red herring.
wat i was comin 2 say is ppl had probs with all previous dais.s n imams before tat n so on.and will have in future too....if u observe closely the corruption is not at highest level but the lower level.....which has to be changed with honesty in us n ppl around us.not by blamin the dai n dai before tat n so on.its just a tactic to escape ur responsibility.

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Unread post by 'sauga dude » Mon Jan 25, 2010 7:56 am

guy_sam2005 wrote:.if u observe closely the corruption is not at highest level but the lower level.....
Assalam aleykum,

Even if we are to accept your reasoning that corruption is not at the highest level but at the lower levels, because of the fact that the dai is sitting back and watching all this happening, that does not make him a very good leader does it? And don't try to fool yourself and others by saying that the dai does not know what is happening at the lower levels. In this modern age, with all the travelling that he does and the communication available, do you honestly think he does not know what his extended family and amils and jamaats are doing? Does he really think all Dawoodi Bohras are super rich with thousands of dollars to offer to him as najwas with folded hands and sajdas? If the problem is at the lower level, why does the dai not stop the mumin from giving him sajda in direct contradiction to the teachings of the Quran? Why does the dai not stop the zakereens from singing madehs which call him the kaaba, the masjid-e-aazam, an angel on earth....?

What kind of leader would watch his people being humiliated at his amils and not do anything about it?

Forget the sabaqs and taweel na bayaans. Instead go and study some history on your own and come back and tell us if any of the previous imams and dais did what this dai is doing? Not many people knew the previous dais and imams personally but their history remains. This dai too will leave his history behind and it will not judge him kindly.

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Unread post by SBM » Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:14 am

And add to it, does not the Shezadas and Syedna himself has said that he is Ghayab na Imam and the only reason you need RAZA from him because he knows what is best for his FARZANDO, Now if he has knowledge of everything how come he has no knowledge about the corruption in his own rank
REMEMBER THE FAMOUS SAYING" BUCK STOPS HERE"

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Unread post by Smart » Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:02 pm

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The "BUCK STOPS HERE" applies only to normal human beings and they are competent enough to take the responsibilty.

However this principle does not apply to the "ghaib na malik" / "naatik quran" / "ilahul ard" (because he is superhuman).

According to the abdes he is ignorant about the acts of his subordinates, which means he is not even a normal competent leader.

Do the Syedna's claims contradict the beliefs of the ordinary abdes?

I am completely confused. What exactly gives?

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:25 pm

the syedna's achievements contd...

38) syedna mohd burhanuddin has the unique ability to switch his miraculous powers of 'ghaib na malik' - i.e seeing the unseen - on or off, depending on the circumstances. eg. he is able to see his abde mumeneen behind thick concrete pillars or when they are in trouble seven seas away in the wtc buildings way before the plane attacks, or when they are about to be robbed or murdered in kenya, gujrat, england etc. but he can switch off this ability when he doesnt want to see his amils harassing his abdes or extorting money from them, he can overlook the bohras living in slums, he cannot see the poor widows or beggars begging outside the raudat tahera, he also cannot see how many bohras are unemployed and how many are prevented from coming to masjid/markaz. he is the only syedna after his great father to be able to have such selective powers.

perhaps this can explain the discussion above..

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Unread post by guy_sam2005 » Tue Jan 26, 2010 4:58 am

'sauga dude wrote:
guy_sam2005 wrote:.if u observe closely the corruption is not at highest level but the lower level.....
Assalam aleykum,

Even if we are to accept your reasoning that corruption is not at the highest level but at the lower levels, because of the fact that the dai is sitting back and watching all this happening, that does not make him a very good leader does it? And don't try to fool yourself and others by saying that the dai does not know what is happening at the lower levels. In this modern age, with all the travelling that he does and the communication available, do you honestly think he does not know what his extended family and amils and jamaats are doing? Does he really think all Dawoodi Bohras are super rich with thousands of dollars to offer to him as najwas with folded hands and sajdas? If the problem is at the lower level, why does the dai not stop the mumin from giving him sajda in direct contradiction to the teachings of the Quran? Why does the dai not stop the zakereens from singing madehs which call him the kaaba, the masjid-e-aazam, an angel on earth....?

What kind of leader would watch his people being humiliated at his amils and not do anything about it?

Forget the sabaqs and taweel na bayaans. Instead go and study some history on your own and come back and tell us if any of the previous imams and dais did what this dai is doing? Not many people knew the previous dais and imams personally but their history remains. This dai too will leave his history behind and it will not judge him kindly.
dai is watching and he know bout it,which he has made clear in bayaans.the steps are taken day 2 day.its just that sometimes we come to know of them sometimes we dont.
and only people who can afford give big najwas.that too without any force more wilingly.thats our mindset.i duno why all of u are taltin of foced najwas i have never even heard of anythin like tat.yea sometimes some local collections are there in name of some project or sowhich are not utilised in right manner.but then watever the manner be some1 will have objections..u can never satisfy all.
history has always judged leader with pros n cons.
but here the echo of good will over shadow the voice of fictious bad(tat u guys claim)
i have never attended any taweel sabaks or so...
and for history...will u coach me?

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Unread post by guy_sam2005 » Tue Jan 26, 2010 5:02 am

and till the question of interpreting quran ...all have different interpretions.and all clain to be right with their own examples n so on.
for us moula(tus) is the voice of quran....so whatever ur interpretion is becomes invalid.
and if u think you and ur so called scholars interpretions are absolute,,,try convincing a shia abubacker was a nice guy.or a sunni tat he was not.

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Unread post by guy_sam2005 » Tue Jan 26, 2010 5:07 am

omabharti wrote:And add to it, does not the Shezadas and Syedna himself has said that he is Ghayab na Imam and the only reason you need RAZA from him because he knows what is best for his FARZANDO, Now if he has knowledge of everything how come he has no knowledge about the corruption in his own rank
REMEMBER THE FAMOUS SAYING" BUCK STOPS HERE"
i already said he knows..and neccessary is done as possible.its not neccessary that we should know bout it...most of the times the action taken comes to light a lil later....

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Unread post by guy_sam2005 » Tue Jan 26, 2010 5:10 am

Smart wrote:^
The "BUCK STOPS HERE" applies only to normal human beings and they are competent enough to take the responsibilty.

However this principle does not apply to the "ghaib na malik" / "naatik quran" / "ilahul ard" (because he is superhuman).

According to the abdes he is ignorant about the acts of his subordinates, which means he is not even a normal competent leader.

Do the Syedna's claims contradict the beliefs of the ordinary abdes?

I am completely confused. What exactly gives?
moula(tus)has already acknowledged our probs...in one particular zikra bayaan moula(tus)voiced our such probs that we never in dreams thought moula(tus)would know.........there was corruption even uring the time of prophet.....was it not?

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Unread post by guy_sam2005 » Tue Jan 26, 2010 5:19 am

Al Zulfiqar wrote:the syedna's achievements contd...

38) syedna mohd burhanuddin has the unique ability to switch his miraculous powers of 'ghaib na malik' - i.e seeing the unseen - on or off, depending on the circumstances. eg. he is able to see his abde mumeneen behind thick concrete pillars or when they are in trouble seven seas away in the wtc buildings way before the plane attacks, or when they are about to be robbed or murdered in kenya, gujrat, england etc. but he can switch off this ability when he doesnt want to see his amils harassing his abdes or extorting money from them, he can overlook the bohras living in slums, he cannot see the poor widows or beggars begging outside the raudat tahera, he also cannot see how many bohras are unemployed and how many are prevented from coming to masjid/markaz. he is the only syedna after his great father to be able to have such selective powers.

perhaps this can explain the discussion above..
hey dude...tis is pure hatred..........
most ppl beggin outside raudat tahera are not even bohras..some are i agree...
u cant shift all the slums to nariman point in a year or so..the steps are taken.....if u know of housing loans schemes...
every ramzan crores of rupees go 2 every jamaat for upliftment....most not utilised in proper way by our so called brothers.
and believe me when i say huge amounts..if utilsed the way moula(tus)would want its juat a question of 10 years there wont be poverty.
another case is i mean some not all bt the ratio would be 30% of them dont want to change.the prob is in local management too .noone follows wat they do wit the money given...some ppl instead of utilisin for some good buy luxuries and are again in queue next yr.
and by this statement i do mean all....some are really needy but dont get due to local politics........
if u guys didnt know education loans for the needy is given round the year with very minimum formalities......mostl times not even as loan.
but ya ull find flaws here too............

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Unread post by guy_sam2005 » Tue Jan 26, 2010 5:22 am

and by this statement i do mean

read as
i dont mean............

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Unread post by Smart » Tue Jan 26, 2010 11:32 am

@guy_sam2005

Could you write something that others can read, understand and make sense of ? Or, is this the best you can do?

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Unread post by guy_sam2005 » Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:20 am

Smart wrote:@guy_sam2005

Could you write something that others can read, understand and make sense of ? Or, is this the best you can do?
tell me wat i saidu didnt get..ill elaborate it 4 you

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Unread post by seeker110 » Wed Jan 27, 2010 2:11 am

I have heard people who are 'totla' but writing totla is first time.

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:00 am

seeker110 wrote:I have heard people who are 'totla' but writing totla is first time.
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

i shudder to think of his 'totla' bowel movements as his totla panu seems to be all pervasive.. :oops:

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Unread post by Smart » Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:20 am

guy_sam2005 wrote:
Smart wrote:@guy_sam2005

Could you write something that others can read, understand and make sense of ? Or, is this the best you can do?
tell me wat i saidu didnt get..ill elaborate it 4 you
Well, everything.

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Wed Jan 27, 2010 11:16 am

a quote for people like guy-sam..

"It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
- Abraham Lincoln.

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Unread post by guy_sam2005 » Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:52 am

Smart wrote:
guy_sam2005 wrote: tell me wat i saidu didnt get..ill elaborate it 4 you
Well, everything.
u understood the sentance so good..that doesnt mean everything...please be more specific