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Unread post by Muslim First » Sun Mar 07, 2010 8:12 am

Abdes and non Abdes

Please read this and see if it sound familiar

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/07/us/07 ... gy.html?hp

Wasalaam



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Unread post by Smart » Sun Mar 07, 2010 9:34 am

Even this sounds familiar.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 649139.cms

A tainted swami buying his truce from Narendra Modi.



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Unread post by mumin » Sun Mar 07, 2010 3:14 pm

Read this. It tops it all. some bohri mullah's have been caught fondling children in madrasas. guillable parents be forwarned.there have been cases in u.s. also. One small jamaat in u.s. had requested for a mulla to kothar to teach children during the summer vacation. the mulla was caught and was soon deported back to india.this mulla was a married man of 45 years of age.

world Sex scandals and stampedes put India's 'godmen' in focus
Sunday, 07 Mar, 2010 File photo taken on February 21, 2004 shows Indian Hindu spiritual leader Mata Amritanandamayi as she prays during a day-long Darshan (Hugging Session) at Ullal on the outskirts of Bangalore. With two sex scandals and a fatal stampede, it's been a bad week for India's “godmen”, the self-styled Hindu ascetics whose followers range from farmers and housewives to politicians and rock stars. -Photo by AFP World
Stampede kills seven at Indian festival Stampede kills seven at Indian festival MUMBAI: With two sex scandals and a fatal stampede, it’s been a bad week for India’s “godmen”, the self-styled Hindu ascetics whose followers range from farmers and housewives to politicians and rock stars.



On Thursday, 63 people — all of them women and children — were crushed to death in a stampede at an ashram run by a popular holy man in northern Uttar Pradesh state.



The day before, angry villagers in the southern state of Karnataka attacked another religious retreat after a television station aired footage purportedly showing its long-haired 30-something guru fondling two women.



And last weekend, police in the capital New Delhi revealed they had arrested a godman for allegedly running a vice ring involving air-hostesses, college students and housewives.



For sceptics, the sex scandals show that many godmen, despite their spiritual air and claims of mystical powers, are nothing more than confidence tricksters craving cash and power.



“Ninety-five per cent of godmen give the remaining five per cent a bad name,” joked Dipankar Gupta, a former sociology professor at Jawarhalal Nehru University in New Delhi.



“Most of them are not (holy). They’re charlatans. That’s why they crave indulgence from the rich and the gullible. This happens all the time. I don’t know why people fall for them.”



But for many Indians, these gurus play an integral role in daily life, taking their place in the country’s vast spiritual supermarket to be handpicked as a pathway to enlightenment.



Foreign tourists have flocked to India seeking spiritual awakening and an escape from their hectic lives in the West, ever since the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi captivated The Beatles with his teachings on transcendental meditation.



Today, popular gurus include Mata Amritanandamayi Devi, the so-called “hugging saint” of Kerala, and Sathya Sai Baba, a wild-haired south Indian godman who claims to be the reincarnation of a 19th century yogi, Sai Baba of Shirdi.



Both have massive followings and hundreds of spiritual centres and charitable foundations working in areas like health and education around the globe.



Mata Amritanandamayi Devi — known as “Amma” or mother — pledged 23.4 million dollars in aid for victims of the 2004 Asian tsunami, as well as free education and counselling for children orphaned in the tragedy.



Padmini Sardesai, a 72-year-old part-time shop worker from south Mumbai who also acts in commercials, is wary of modern-day gurus but like many Hindus reveres Sai Baba of Shirdi.



“He’s like a god,” she told AFP. “He has done some miracles. I have faith in him because he’s the incarnation of Dattatreya (a combination of the three gods Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva).



“Whatever your wish it will be fulfilled. Praying to someone like Sai Baba is for mental peace. These people won’t harm you. They will show you the proper path.”



The latest scandals, however, are further ammunition for critics of modern-day godmen like Sanal Edamaruku, head of the Indian Rationalist Association, which campaigns for scientific reasoning over superstition.



“All godmen are fake,” he said. “All godmen work on the basis of the gullibility of people... they only want power and money.”



He said anyone can don saffron robes and proclaim to be a godman or join the ranks of the saddhus — the unwashed, wandering mystics often found through a fug of marijuana smoke in places like the holy city of Varanasi on the River Ganges.



Shiv Murat Dwivedi, arrested last weekend in New Delhi, “used the guise of spirituality” as well as the offer of money, expensive gifts and cars to lure young women into a prostitution, from which he made millions, police said.



Edamaruku suggested a need for answers in an increasingly complex world explained the cult of godmen.



“It’s people who want instant solutions, instant miracles, they need something in front of them,” he said.



Gupta agreed. “People want customised, designer religion and the public is becoming more and more individualistic,” he said. “They can’t look for the usual routes to salvation.”



Hinduism — with its many gods, magic and mysticism — leads people to seek out such individuals to fulfil the emotional desire to believe or even a basic human need to congregate, he added.



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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri May 06, 2016 6:24 pm

Founder of Art of Living Foundation Ravi Shankar

Via a global network of not-for-profits under the AOL banner, Ravi Shankar, the spiritual founder of AOL, heads over Rs 234 crore worth of assets, with over Rs 81 crore in latest revenues from the United States, United Kingdom and the Netherlands alone. The AOL website lists that the foundation has branches in over 155 countries. These figures are merely the tip of the iceberg and without proper knowledge of the assets and revenues of two Swiss entities, of which he is the president, the true picture of his real wealth will never emerge. The amount of 234 crores is derived at without access to the detailed financial statements from entities, trusts or bodies in Africa, the Middle East, South East Asia, Australia and New Zealand. Access was denied due to technical, logistical and banking issues.

On conducting an an exhaustive global probe into the finances of the AOL trusts operating overseas, The Caravan found that the foundation and many of its other affiliate organisations are rolling in cash. We looked up the finances of AOL bodies filed with US, UK, Netherlands, Germany trade registers. While we were able to secure basic journal entries of three AOL firms operating from Switzerland, we were refused access to the detailed financial statements.

It is important to note that these figures are exclusive of the assets and revenues of three Swiss AOL entities, namely the International Art of Living Foundation, International Association for Human Values (IAHV) and Shankara Universal Gmbh, a limited liability company. The Caravan’s request for accounts of both the foundation and the company on 18 April were not entertained by the Swiss commercial register.

According to the IAHV US website, the trust was formed by Shankar in 1997 as a “a global platform for humanitarian initiatives that solve problems by uplifting human values.” The IAHV is registered in a number of countries, which includes France, Germany, the United Kingdom, the Netherlands, Denmark, Italy and many others. It is also registered in St Lucia, a notorious tax haven.

Another interesting aspect is the manner in which these not-for-profits and other entities around the world have been structured. More often than not, Shankar’s name does not figure in the list of the board members of trusts. However, he does figure prominently at the top of table as the president of the International Art of Living Foundation and as the president of the Swiss IAHV. In the journal entry of IAOLF of the Swiss trade register, Shankar’s name is been listed as Venkatratnam, Ravishankar Ramanayakanpet and his sister Bhanumathi Narsimhan has been given the position of vice president. The IAOLF is also a partner in another Swiss LLP called Shankara Universal Gmbh headed by Ajay Mathradas Khimji. The Khimji family in Oman operates in a number of sectors including consumer goods, infrastructure and industrial products and, according to the website arabianbusiness.com, is one among the 50 wealthiest entities in Oman.

Our investigation suggested that Rs 234 crore was in fact a minuscule amount of the foundation’s assets. Furthermore, a large amount of what these overseas trusts of the AOL receive in charity and as event and course fees are remitted back to India as foreign contributions.

- See more at: http://www.caravanmagazine.in/vantage/d ... XN3Js.dpuf



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Unread post by alivasan » Sat May 07, 2016 2:36 am

mumin wrote:Read this. It tops it all. some bohri mullah's have been caught fondling children in madrasas. guillable parents be forwarned.there have been cases in u.s. also. One small jamaat in u.s. had requested for a mulla to kothar to teach children during the summer vacation. the mulla was caught and was soon deported back to india.this mulla was a married man of 45 years of age.

world Sex scandals and stampedes put India's 'godmen' in focus
Sunday, 07 Mar, 2010 File photo taken on February 21, 2004 shows Indian Hindu spiritual leader Mata Amritanandamayi as she prays during a day-long Darshan (Hugging Session) at Ullal on the outskirts of Bangalore. With two sex scandals and a fatal stampede, it's been a bad week for India's “godmen”, the self-styled Hindu ascetics whose followers range from farmers and housewives to politicians and rock stars. -Photo by AFP World
Stampede kills seven at Indian festival Stampede kills seven at Indian festival MUMBAI: With two sex scandals and a fatal stampede, it’s been a bad week for India’s “godmen”, the self-styled Hindu ascetics whose followers range from farmers and housewives to politicians and rock stars.



On Thursday, 63 people — all of them women and children — were crushed to death in a stampede at an ashram run by a popular holy man in northern Uttar Pradesh state.



The day before, angry villagers in the southern state of Karnataka attacked another religious retreat after a television station aired footage purportedly showing its long-haired 30-something guru fondling two women.



And last weekend, police in the capital New Delhi revealed they had arrested a godman for allegedly running a vice ring involving air-hostesses, college students and housewives.



For sceptics, the sex scandals show that many godmen, despite their spiritual air and claims of mystical powers, are nothing more than confidence tricksters craving cash and power.



“Ninety-five per cent of godmen give the remaining five per cent a bad name,” joked Dipankar Gupta, a former sociology professor at Jawarhalal Nehru University in New Delhi.



“Most of them are not (holy). They’re charlatans. That’s why they crave indulgence from the rich and the gullible. This happens all the time. I don’t know why people fall for them.”



But for many Indians, these gurus play an integral role in daily life, taking their place in the country’s vast spiritual supermarket to be handpicked as a pathway to enlightenment.



Foreign tourists have flocked to India seeking spiritual awakening and an escape from their hectic lives in the West, ever since the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi captivated The Beatles with his teachings on transcendental meditation.



Today, popular gurus include Mata Amritanandamayi Devi, the so-called “hugging saint” of Kerala, and Sathya Sai Baba, a wild-haired south Indian godman who claims to be the reincarnation of a 19th century yogi, Sai Baba of Shirdi.



Both have massive followings and hundreds of spiritual centres and charitable foundations working in areas like health and education around the globe.



Mata Amritanandamayi Devi — known as “Amma” or mother — pledged 23.4 million dollars in aid for victims of the 2004 Asian tsunami, as well as free education and counselling for children orphaned in the tragedy.



Padmini Sardesai, a 72-year-old part-time shop worker from south Mumbai who also acts in commercials, is wary of modern-day gurus but like many Hindus reveres Sai Baba of Shirdi.



“He’s like a god,” she told AFP. “He has done some miracles. I have faith in him because he’s the incarnation of Dattatreya (a combination of the three gods Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva).



“Whatever your wish it will be fulfilled. Praying to someone like Sai Baba is for mental peace. These people won’t harm you. They will show you the proper path.”



The latest scandals, however, are further ammunition for critics of modern-day godmen like Sanal Edamaruku, head of the Indian Rationalist Association, which campaigns for scientific reasoning over superstition.



“All godmen are fake,” he said. “All godmen work on the basis of the gullibility of people... they only want power and money.”



He said anyone can don saffron robes and proclaim to be a godman or join the ranks of the saddhus — the unwashed, wandering mystics often found through a fug of marijuana smoke in places like the holy city of Varanasi on the River Ganges.



Shiv Murat Dwivedi, arrested last weekend in New Delhi, “used the guise of spirituality” as well as the offer of money, expensive gifts and cars to lure young women into a prostitution, from which he made millions, police said.



Edamaruku suggested a need for answers in an increasingly complex world explained the cult of godmen.



“It’s people who want instant solutions, instant miracles, they need something in front of them,” he said.



Gupta agreed. “People want customised, designer religion and the public is becoming more and more individualistic,” he said. “They can’t look for the usual routes to salvation.”



Hinduism — with its many gods, magic and mysticism — leads people to seek out such individuals to fulfil the emotional desire to believe or even a basic human need to congregate, he added.
Quite old article, nothing new. some crap like sathya sai baba have even died 5 years back.check out this latest as of Jan '16 ...

http://theconfusedindian.in/8-most-cont ... -of-india/

Needless to say in garb of helping needy trusts run by sai crap were doing money laundering and many hospitals, schools run by them were under scanner. IT companies in and around bangalore like vmoksha and several others have made big money by providing IT services to this sai trust crap and so called 'math'.there exists fierce competition amongst them of getting piece of pai, all coz of lot's of black money.

When will self styled bohras godmen do deedar of jail?



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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Mon May 23, 2016 5:03 pm

Confessions of Asaram disciple: Rs 25 lakh collected to fund murder of witnesses, planned to buy AK-47

From procuring gau mutra (cow urine), depositing funds in the bank accounts of incarcerated self-styled “godman” Asaram and his son Narayan Sai to “killing key witnesses” who testified against his “god”, Karthik Haldar, 31-year-old alleged sharp shooter, in his statement before police has revealed details of his life at Motera ashram here and his vow to eliminate opponents of the controversial spiritual guru or commit suicide.

In the 30-page statement recorded by the Detection of Crime Branch (DCB), Ahmedabad, Haldar “confessed” to have murdered three crucial witnesses and attempts to kill four others in the rape cases against Asaram and his son.

According to police, he said to eliminate people who spoke or testified against Asaram, more than Rs 25 lakh was collected from sadhaks across the country.

His statement, a copy of which is with The Indian Express, revealed: “After I started killing opponents of Asaram, money was collected from Asaram sevaks across Bharat... Rs 15 lakh was paid to Damodar singh, a resident of Jharkhand, for procuring an AK-47. But even after two years, he didn’t give the AK-47. However, the two barrel gun and about 40 cartridges, used for killing Akhil Gupta, was provided by Damodar Singh.” Akhil was murdered in Muzaffarnagar last year.

Haldar told police that apart from killing witnesses, a conspiracy was hatched to eliminate Assistant Commissioner of Police Chanchal Mishra, who investigated the rape case in Jodhpur. In his statement, Haldar said, there was a plan to “bomb Chanchal Mishra who was terse while talking to Bapu.” He has said that he received such information through one Kishan alias Boby that “dynamite was being procured from Mumbai”.

Haldar, a native of West Bengal, first came to Motera ashram in 2001 from Delhi, and for seven years he did odd jobs such as collecting gau mutra and depositing cash in the bank accounts of Asaram.

The statement revealed that Haldar became close to Asaram in 2009 after he tried to murder Raju Chandak, a Chandkheda resident, for speaking against the “godman”. A month after the assault, Haldar went to Delhi to start his own transport business. He also went to Asaram’s satsang, where the “godman” publicly called his name to meet him later.

“After 15 minutes, I went to see him. Bapu (Asaram) asked me why have you come from Ahmedbad ashram to Delhi. I told him that I want to start a transport business... Bapu told me there was no need to work, and asked me to start arranging stalls at satsang.... At that time Bapu asked me in private that who was behind the attack on Raju Chandak, and I answered that I and Sanju (Malegaon) have done it. Sanju opened fire at Raju Chandak, while I was riding the bike,” he stated.

When Asaram was arrested in a rape case in 2013 and lodged in Jodhpur jail, Haldar along with dozens of “samarpit sadhak (dedicated devotees)” planned to kill the witnesses one by one. “After Asaram Bapu went to jail, I met him thrice,” Haldar said in the statement in which he referred to Asaram as his “god” several times. He stated that a month before he was arrested, he talked to Asaram over phone with help from one Balvir, but due to network problem he couldn’t hear anything. Haldar was arrested by the Gujarat Anti-Terrorist Squad on March 14 from Raipur.

Haldar allegedly killed Amrut Prajapati, former aide of Asaram and key witness who was shot in Rajkot at his Ayurveda clinic in June 2014. Akhil Gupta, who worked with Asaram as a cook and testified against the “godman”, was also shot dead in January 2015 near his house in Muzaffarnagar. He also allegedly killed Mahendra Chawla, personal assistant to Asaram between 2001 and 2005 who was also shot at his house in May 2015 in Panipat.

Narrating assaults on the witnesses, Haldar referred to a meeting in Delhi where it was decided to “murder all who were against Asaram”, including Prajapati, Shekhar, Raju Chandak, Rahul Sachan, Mahendra Chawla and Dinesh Bhagchandani. Many other witnesses were later added in the list.

His statement read: “Two months had passed since the Delhi meeting, but no witness was eliminated... I took a pledge in the presence of sadhaks Dushyant, Santosh and Narayan Pandey in Panipat that if I don’t kill anyone in a month, I will shoot myself.”

https://in.news.yahoo.com/confessions-a ... 00082.html



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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:07 am

https://swarajyamag.com/culture/hindutv ... -mock-them

Hindutva Dilemmas And Why The Pankaj Mishras Find It Easy To Mock Them


https://swarajyamag.com/culture/hindutv ... -mock-them