syedna is best of all leaders in todays world

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syedna is best of all leaders in todays world

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Unread post by fisherman » Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:54 pm

this is so true that syedna is best of all leaders in todays world the way he has kept this community united strong is really worth of appreciation,long live to syedna and may Allah grant him long and healthy life for service of Imam uz zamaan and Islaam.





Aqa Maula TUS meets with Mahant Shree Dev Prasadji Maharaj during Jamnagar safar
14 Rabi-ul-Aakhar, 1431 [ 29-03-2010 ] at Jamnagar - India

Aqa Maula TUS met with Mahant Shree Dev Prasadji Maharaj of Shree Anandabawa Seva Sanstha during Jamnagar safar.

http://www.malumaat.com/adv/akhbar/item/994.html

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Apr 01, 2010 7:04 pm

Have you heard of a highly corrupt ex union minister by the name of Buta Singh who has many cases pending against him and recently even his son is booked for a big scam ? This man had also highly praised mola on his 80th birthday at a large and extravagant function held at Turf club, Mumbai in which many top officials were invited.

Take the opinion of Narendra Modi (the butcher of muslims) on mola, Iam sure he will sing praises for him after he was invited by mola in a Masjid, had a shawl draped around him, was felicitated for his commendable work (of mass genocide) and presented a cheque of over Rs.One crore.

During mola's last visit to chennai, the then corrupt chief minister Jayalalitha provided him a police escort and even named one of the streets as Dr.Burhanuddin street which was previously Moore street.

Hence even if you want any top govt dignitaries to praise you then be ready to shell out a sizable amount to them and they will praise you in any whichever way you want.

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Unread post by SBM » Thu Apr 01, 2010 7:57 pm

And who is Mahant Shree Devjee anyway?

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Unread post by Smart » Fri Apr 02, 2010 5:33 am

^
Some time peddlar of religion, just like his counterpart here. It seems he has more followers than abdes.

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Unread post by S. Insaf » Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:30 am

HARD SHELL RACIST
By Aftab Ahmed Baloch
http://afttak.blogspot.com/2009_10_01_archive.html

In Karachi there are also minorities living in hard shell or within boundaries, they are totally isolated, and nobody knows much about them. The best examples are the Bohra community (followers of Syedana Burhanuddin or Faitimi). They are famous for their stubborn behavior, though in minority they cater a large leading business groups in Karachi and they are the prime holders in hardware, glass & paint business. Bohris, living in Hyderi are much richer than living in Lyari.
Like their close cousin Memons, Bohris are famous for their miserliness and mean behavior, and they are always found within tight boundaries & groups, and they do not live separately or individually. Their every friendship, kinship & romance is within community. Their compounds are always surrounded by boundary walls so that no outsider can enter. They, for any business, always deal with their own kind. Normally they are not interested or encourage the cross relation, marriage or friendship with other nationalities, because violation means total bereavement or expulsion from the Jamaat.
Their men often wear traditional white cap having golden embroidery with Kurta / Pajamas while their women use Burka (consisting in two parts in light colors with face open). According to their religious belief, women rarely use any make-up or lipsticks for any occasion. The face of any Bohri girl will be zombie like & impression free, the reason is according to their religious understanding they circumcise their girls like men in early age (before puberty), by removing clitoris (erectile organ of vulva) which is assumed as a sex point. Thus a Bohri girl is by borne sex free & boring. For them, mating is only for producing children, hence not to satisfy sexual desires. This surgical removal ritual is also performed in other part of Muslim countries like Egypt & Africa. In every Bohri shop you'll find a photo hanging, of their Peer (Syedna Burhanuddin). Bohri men & women together go to their mosque and chant in high tones, like Christians during their prayer service. They celebrate their Eid & Ramadan, slightly in different days as compared to other Muslim minorities. They also arrange group marriages, when their Peer arrives from abroad, which he does often. It is quite compulsive for any Bohri men & women that they must attend their all sacred ceremonies.

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Unread post by ATH » Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:50 am

HARD SHELL RACIST -- Cont'd from where S. Insaf left the post

http://afttak.blogspot.com/2009_10_01_archive.html

KARACHI WALAY & THEIR CHARACTERISTICS
By Aftab Ahmed Baloch
Before the article:
Dear readers the following article (based upon my personal observations) is about beautiful people of Karachi & their different cultural behaviors i.e. traits fused in different flavors & backgrounds….. The article is in pure ‘awami language’ & uncensored! While elaborating the article & digging through realities (whatever good or bad), I tried to remain objective, however, the purpose of article is not to disparage any minority’s culture or belief. It will also be helpful for all kind of tourists. Least to mention, the English language standard may not be up to the mark for which I beg my pardon.

As a religious group, beside Bohris, the Agha Khanis (often known as Khojas – the disciples of Prince Karim Agha Khan) are also known for their narrow mindedness / racist approach. In their every institution, they prefer their own people, be it hospitals, schools or other organizations. They also hang their Peer’s portrait in their every places. In Schools, they prefer their own community’s children, which can be endorsed through their Admission Forms, containing ‘SECT’ section to be filled compulsory. In school’s class rooms, children from Non-Agha Khanis (if they are fortunate enough to get admission after handsome paying of donations) are normally seated at the back rows & this fact was revealed by various non Agha Khanis students! Agha Khan Hospital is the most notorious place for extracting huge amount of money. If anyone dies, they do not discharge dead bodies without paying outstanding dues.

In Karachi, people from other religious sects like Shiite are also known for their ‘boundary wall approach’. In Karachi there are whole colonies of Shiites can be found where they practice their own belief system. During marriages & even friendship this weighs more importance, whereas Katchis, Marvarees & to some extent Balochs are also known for their rigid approach, non community relations & especially cross marriages do not exist all.

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Unread post by ozmujaheed » Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:53 am

Wow truth is a bitter pill...thanks S Insaf

I know it is a blog only but if that is what we are perceived by common men ..how do you respond to a bayan that says apni Izaat to Duato ye raat din menat kari che etel aaj apne ne fakhar che

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Unread post by Smart » Tue Apr 13, 2010 6:13 pm

@Fisherman,
Are you a foot in the mouth artiste? Aren't a couple of your threads sufficient to prove it?

Do you want to continue with your hagiographic threads?

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Unread post by bohri » Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:54 am

Mahant Shree Dev Prasadji Maharaj
This man is a nobody - his one claim to fame is to have met with The Sultan. If you look carefully, looks like he was invited to an Abde house (judging by the Mola photo gallery in the background!

Try googling this name, and all you will get are hits to bohri sites!!

Good one fisherman!


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Unread post by Human » Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:32 pm

^
Damn! I was hoping to see moula's pic there as I scrolled through the 10.

Also, as in the above article by Mr. Baloach in Mr. Insaf's post, is it a fact that like bohri boys are circumcised, bohri girls have to get rid of their clitoris? Just curious as to if it is a practice only in Karachi or everywhere?
I know of some African tribes who follow a similar practice too.

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Unread post by ozmujaheed » Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:47 am

The Ghab na Jan nar obviously new this when he took the photo opportunity and brought him into a Masjid, so with history and future known he still had he audacity ?

Abdes try defending this now ! Let us see how creative you can get ?
A BJP team today called on the German embassy to register its protest against remarks made by German parliamentarians describing Narendra Modi as a dictator. The BJP is upset at Modi reportedly being compared to Adolf Hitler by the German lawmakers.

The members of the Christian Democratic Union (CDU) of the ruling coalition of Germany had reportedly also justified the European Union's earlier decision of not granting a visa to Modi and reportedly said: "The Chief Minister of Gujarat has a radical tone to his politics and is described as dictatorial. He has a wrong perception of religious freedom." The MPs were reported to have said this during their visit to Ahmedabad on April 8.

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Thu Apr 15, 2010 10:11 am

ghaib na malik can only see inside yr pockets. he cannot see corruption in his family, his amils or the jamaat committee members.

ghaib na malik can see behind concrete pillars, he saw the 9/11 planes even before they hit the twin towers, he can reach miraculously out to his abdes in africa, usa and europe while he himself is in mumbai, he can give you guarantee of jannat but cannot see the evil in narendra modi or bal thackeray. he cannot see his poor abdes living in huts in dharavi or slums elsewhere, he cannot see poor bohra widows or hear their pain and suffering when they pray to him..

maybe allah is playing a cruel joke on him and turning his ghaib monitor on and off at random, thus completely confusing him. no wonder he has been fumbling at his vaez's and majlises ever since he took office some 45 years ago, whenever his papers fly off or get misplaced.. it's all allah's fault.

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Unread post by ozmujaheed » Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:16 am

Abdes will be familiar with the logic they explain in Sabaqs but let me twist it a bit and by the way these are facts:

Sayeda + Modi Hitler of Gujarat + Iranian diplomat + Abde + Kenyan election thug + poaching + Hosni Mubarak + Emir of UAE = Anti-Jew, war crimes GFC and extremism.

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Unread post by guy_sam2005 » Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:28 am

Human wrote:^
Damn! I was hoping to see moula's pic there as I scrolled through the 10.

Also, as in the above article by Mr. Baloach in Mr. Insaf's post, is it a fact that like bohri boys are circumcised, bohri girls have to get rid of their clitoris? Just curious as to if it is a practice only in Karachi or everywhere?
I know of some African tribes who follow a similar practice too.
are u a bohra?i guessed u told me u were abde once...circumsion is compulsory..............and its has medical benefits too...

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Unread post by Conscíous » Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:34 am

guy_sam2005 wrote:circumsion is compulsory..............and its has medical benefits too...
And it has a very strong, psychology affect too... :oops:


guy_sam2005,
What medical benefits are there for getting rid of the clitoris :? ?

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Unread post by master.b00t » Wed Apr 21, 2010 7:53 am

"Maro naam mohammad burhanuddin bin taher saifuddin"

puri prithvi pe koi bahot bada pralay aa jaye aur sab barbaad ho jaye, to hazaro baras ke baad ye recordings kisi ke haath me aa jaye aur usko dekhne baad pata chale ke ......ye to 52th dai mohammad burhanbuddin saheb he !! , aisa mrityu ke baad bhi mera naam bana rahe aisi meri popularity ki vaasana he.

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Unread post by Human » Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:28 am

guy_sam2005 wrote: are u a bohra?i guessed u told me u were abde once...circumsion is compulsory..............and its has medical benefits too...
yes guy_sam, I'm a bohra and a circumcised one too, but I'm a male. I asked about females in my post. And if you want to talk science with me, I'll happily go on a discussion with you. Let me tell you this, in medical terms, only male circumcision can be arguably considered beneficial. Female circumcision which is female genital mutilation has more far-reaching negative effects. Complicated things happen during the procedure and in the future for the female which causes a hard life for them. My friend here is a WHO volunteer who actively works to try and stop female genital mutilation around the globe.
I'll try to explain some of the negative effects as being a male you're lucky enough to not experience this. Mostly noted negatives are external infections, internal infections involving urinary passage tract and the reproductive tract, severe bleeding, infertility, etc. There are many more guy_sam.

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Unread post by guy_sam2005 » Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:00 am

BooM wrote:
guy_sam2005 wrote:circumsion is compulsory..............and its has medical benefits too...
And it has a very strong, psychology affect too... :oops:


guy_sam2005,
What medical benefits are there for getting rid of the clitoris :? ?
psychology affect...rubbish..all u end up is a little less sexual desire.......
a circumcised cock or a pussy cuts down the chances of std's by 40%...

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Unread post by guy_sam2005 » Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:04 am

human,
yes those things happen when its not done as per standards(hygeine n proper equipments),this can be a problem in remote areas but its not in most places which have decent medical facilities or profesional circumcisation centres(xcuse the spelling)
inferility has nothng to do wit circumisation..

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Unread post by Conscíous » Wed Apr 21, 2010 10:11 am

guy_sam2005 wrote: psychology affect...rubbish..
I believe you, because people like you, lack compassion :roll:
guy_sam2005 wrote: all u end up is a little less sexual desire.......
A little less sexual desire and zero pleasure :cry:

that's how you fanatics like it huh??

You're a sick ^%%$%& Lets cut, top of your Dick and see how much of a man is left in you..
guy_sam2005 wrote: a circumcised cock or a pussy cuts down the chances of std's by 40%...
Mostly for those men, who have more then one partner 8), but I'm not so sure about circumciseing women will help :!:

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Unread post by SBM » Wed Apr 21, 2010 10:43 am

ADMINISTRATION
THIS THREAD IS GOIN HAYWIRE, TIME TO TAKE CONTROL OF THIS, THIS IS NOT THE FORUM FOR THIS KIND OF RUBBISH TALK
PLEASE DELETE SOME OF THESE POSTS AS THEY ARE IRRELEVENT TO THE THE TOPIC OF THE THREAD.
THANKS

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Unread post by Conscíous » Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:07 am

guy_sam2005 wrote: circumsion is compulsory...........
guy_sam2005,

In my country, female genital mutilation is a very big criminal a fence, with big jail time.

Isn't it your Moula who said, that one should never break the law of a country which one is a resident in ??

Who should one listen too??

I'll ask you again, what medical benefits are there for getting rid of the clitoris :? ?

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Unread post by anajmi » Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:59 am

a circumcised cock or a pussy cuts down the chances of std's by 40%...
guy sam,

Do you know what would cut down the chances of stds by 100%???

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:45 pm

anajmi,

i hope by std's, you dont mean 'saya, topi. dhadhi.' to eliminate those, there are obvious solutions... :mrgreen:

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Unread post by Human » Wed Apr 21, 2010 10:11 pm

guy_sam2005 wrote:human,
yes those things happen when its not done as per standards(hygeine n proper equipments),this can be a problem in remote areas but its not in most places which have decent medical facilities or profesional circumcisation centres(xcuse the spelling)
inferility has nothng to do wit circumisation..
Guy_sam,
You're utterly mistaken. Just read the first page (WHO factsheet number 241) and it will be good enough:
http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs241/en/
I guess that should be enough information against your arguements.

Islamic perspective on circumcision (read the summary for starters): http://www.emro.who.int/publications/Bo ... .asp?ID=58
Here's the full text: http://www.emro.who.int/dsaf/dsa54.pdf (If you're lazy to read all, then read page number 34 to 42)

I wouldn't buy a word from you or aamil or a jamea professor or moula in that case over these reports from WHO. And I guess neither would any other educated people who are not blind.

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Unread post by Human » Wed Apr 21, 2010 10:18 pm

omabharti wrote:ADMINISTRATION
THIS THREAD IS GOIN HAYWIRE, TIME TO TAKE CONTROL OF THIS, THIS IS NOT THE FORUM FOR THIS KIND OF RUBBISH TALK
PLEASE DELETE SOME OF THESE POSTS AS THEY ARE IRRELEVENT TO THE THE TOPIC OF THE THREAD.
THANKS
Oma, I'm sorry but I would like to know why is it irrelevant? The topic of the thread reads "syedna is best of all leaders in todays world". I just wanted to find out if female genital mutilation is widely practiced and by guy_sam's reply it is clear that it is being encouraged as he said its compulsory. Things like these when they are encouraged, we know it can only come from the top. I wanted to know how can syedna be the best leader encouraging this practice that is condemned all over the world by health and medical research oragnisations? From my reading and the articles I posted in the previous reply to guy_sam, it is clear that female genital mutilation is not an Islamic requirement or so it has been proved by islamic scholars. I would not deem it as 'rubbish talk', maybe more so an uncomfortable topic that many would not like to discuss in public.

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Unread post by SBM » Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:25 am

Human
The language and words used in some of the postings are getting out of control. As far as Female Mutilation is concerned it belongs in Islam Today or some other thread. This topic has discussed so many times and in so many places. Aryan Hirsi Ali made a carrer out of this by depicting her local custom as an evil practice in Islam. We do not need to give any more fuel to the fire ignited by Islam Bashers.

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Unread post by guy_sam2005 » Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:30 am

BooM wrote:
guy_sam2005 wrote: psychology affect...rubbish..
I believe you, because people like you, lack compassion :roll:
guy_sam2005 wrote: all u end up is a little less sexual desire.......
A little less sexual desire and zero pleasure :cry:

that's how you fanatics like it huh??

You're a sick ^%%$%& Lets cut, top of your Dick and see how much of a man is left in you..
guy_sam2005 wrote: a circumcised cock or a pussy cuts down the chances of std's by 40%...
Mostly for those men, who have more then one partner 8), but I'm not so sure about circumciseing women will help :!:
shakalaka boom boom,
well my top skin is already cut ,,i still have lotta pleasure.its the same with women too..........and pleasure is not in sex it is in love..but ya that all u wont understand anyways......

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Unread post by guy_sam2005 » Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:31 am

anajmi wrote:
a circumcised cock or a pussy cuts down the chances of std's by 40%...
guy sam,

Do you know what would cut down the chances of stds by 100%???
no sex :lol: