shame on all shedaaz

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shame on all shedaaz

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Unread post by incredible » Sun May 02, 2010 4:17 am

the way this shedaaz have ppotrait them self as a prince of world is really a shame on there part,i can not find any poor man arround them any where what i see is all they are surrounded by millionair and billionairs of dubai and uk,us...where will the poor man go to solve his problems?


i can understand maulana(tus) is really old and he cant be avaliable for every problem of community all the time,but this stupid shedaaz shud understand there duties and leave this levish life and work for betterment of cmmunity instead f just sitting in air conditioned offices and m class mercedes.

I am staunch beliver of syedna but this bloody shedaaz and his chamchaaz have really pissed me off.if they dont understand there core duties i am sure they gonna face the consequences in comming days.


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Re: shame on all shedaaz

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Unread post by bohri » Sun May 02, 2010 9:49 am

Very true. And more shame on the Abdes who have so eailsly given up their dignity and self respect in favour of idolising these so called Shazada. One cringes at the pictures of elderly and mature men bent over, hands in prayer bowing in enraptured attention to these shahzadas. What have these 'princes' achieved and/ or accomplished in their lifetimes to deserve such adulation, other than raise themselves in pomp and glory.

These princes and Nicole Richie have a lot in common. They are famous for being famous. The abde-shahzada are like groupies of Nicole, who follow Nicole in her every move and action.

Abdes - can you answer why you treat these shahzadas like rock stars?

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Re: shame on all shedaaz

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Unread post by Muslim First » Sun May 02, 2010 10:36 am

Very true. And more shame on the Abdes who have so eailsly given up their dignity and self respect in favour of idolising these so called Shazada. One cringes at the pictures of elderly and mature men bent over, hands in prayer bowing in enraptured attention to these shahzadas
Let us see the pictures: This are exmples only.

http://www.zeninfosys.net/zeninfosys/ar ... rYear=1431

http://www.zeninfosys.net/zeninfosys/ar ... rYear=1431

See 5th and 6th picture

This Zaada. Why he does not say that you can't do it. Prophet always corrected people.

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Re: shame on all shedaaz

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Unread post by incredible » Sun May 02, 2010 10:41 am

its not about the people its about the authorized body i.e-shezaadas to realized there core duties.

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Unread post by incredible » Sun May 02, 2010 10:48 am

Muslim First wrote:
Very true. And more shame on the Abdes who have so eailsly given up their dignity and self respect in favour of idolising these so called Shazada. One cringes at the pictures of elderly and mature men bent over, hands in prayer bowing in enraptured attention to these shahzadas
Let us see the pictures: This are exmples only.

http://www.zeninfosys.net/zeninfosys/ar ... rYear=1431

http://www.zeninfosys.net/zeninfosys/ar ... rYear=1431

See 5th and 6th picture

This Zaada. Why he does not say that you can't do it. Prophet always corrected people.

what are u talking about?

kids are just giving examinations.

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Re: shame on all shedaaz

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Unread post by Muslim First » Sun May 02, 2010 11:11 am

Incredible

Brother you need little help.

Click the link

Look at pictur no 2 and 3 in second row.

Tell me ,Are those guys giving exam?

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Re: shame on all shedaaz

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Unread post by Muslim First » Sun May 02, 2010 11:16 am

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Re: shame on all shedaaz

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Unread post by Human » Mon May 10, 2010 1:04 am

incredible wrote: what are u talking about?

kids are just giving examinations.
Here's what I saw:
1. A group of dumb abdes joining their palms (like namaste, or praying as in hinduism)
2. A brainwashed poor abde is kissing the knee of a shehzada (who looks pretty young too)

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Re: shame on all shedaaz

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Unread post by JC » Sat May 15, 2010 9:57 am

What do you expect from a herd who Worships a Human Being, who love to be slaves of selfish sh**zadas ....???

If a person worships Dead, says lanats to Dead, worship Graves, beat their chests ...... i m sorry to say there is no hope.

Shame on Sh**zadas and their Master ....... but more shame on those who follow them.

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Re: shame on all shedaaz

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Unread post by profastian » Fri May 21, 2010 10:41 am

incredible wrote:the way this shedaaz have ppotrait them self as a prince of world is really a shame on there part,i can not find any poor man arround them any where what i see is all they are surrounded by millionair and billionairs of dubai and uk,us...where will the poor man go to solve his problems?


i can understand maulana(tus) is really old and he cant be avaliable for every problem of community all the time,but this stupid shedaaz shud understand there duties and leave this levish life and work for betterment of cmmunity instead f just sitting in air conditioned offices and m class mercedes.

I am staunch beliver of syedna but this bloody shedaaz and his chamchaaz have really pissed me off.if they dont understand there core duties i am sure they gonna face the consequences in comming days.


Ali
Staunch believer of Maula and calling Shehzadas names. What a joke. Do you really know who these Shahzadas are?

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Unread post by incredible » Fri May 21, 2010 10:52 am

profastian wrote:
incredible wrote:the way this shedaaz have ppotrait them self as a prince of world is really a shame on there part,i can not find any poor man arround them any where what i see is all they are surrounded by millionair and billionairs of dubai and uk,us...where will the poor man go to solve his problems?


i can understand maulana(tus) is really old and he cant be avaliable for every problem of community all the time,but this stupid shedaaz shud understand there duties and leave this levish life and work for betterment of cmmunity instead f just sitting in air conditioned offices and m class mercedes.

I am staunch beliver of syedna but this bloody shedaaz and his chamchaaz have really pissed me off.if they dont understand there core duties i am sure they gonna face the consequences in comming days.


Ali
Staunch believer of Maula and calling Shehzadas names. What a joke. Do you really know who these Shahzadas are?
no i donno who they are and what the **** they are doing arround.but what all i see is they are always surrounded by rich people and i personally know few incidents where this so called prince didnt even look at issue of poor people,may be syedna is aware of this things this is why he has not selected his one of sucessor from all this 7 prince.

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Re: shame on all shedaaz

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Unread post by profastian » Fri May 21, 2010 10:53 am

incredible wrote:
profastian wrote: Staunch believer of Maula and calling Shehzadas names. What a joke. Do you really know who these Shahzadas are?
no i donno who they are and what the **** they are doing arround.but what all i see is they are always surrounded by rich people and i personally know few incidents where this so called prince didnt even look at issue of poor people,may be syedna is aware of this things this is why he has not selected his one of sucessor from all this 7 prince.
So what do you consider yourself? A dawoodi bohra?

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Re: shame on all shedaaz

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Unread post by incredible » Fri May 21, 2010 10:57 am

I consider my self as a muslim and shiyate Ali and i do belive in chain of duat,but i dont support opressors when it comes to haq of poor people i dnt care to ask any one no matter even if they are so called prince or princess

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Unread post by Smart » Fri May 21, 2010 1:30 pm

@profastian,
Do youhave to believe that the sons of the dai are to be called as "Shahzaadas" and to treated be treated as such and their feet kissed to be called a Dawoodi Bohra?

Can you quote some reference for this?

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Re: shame on all shedaaz

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Unread post by bohri » Fri May 21, 2010 4:07 pm

Profastan
Staunch believer of Maula and calling Shehzadas names. What a joke. Do you really know who these Shahzadas are?
Actually - who are these people -? I would honestly like to hear from you who they really are. Maybe that will help us understand their status. Thanks!

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri May 21, 2010 5:10 pm

bohri wrote:Actually - who are these people -? I would honestly like to hear from you who they really are. Maybe that will help us understand their status. Thanks!
A bunch of spoiled brats for whom power has gone into their heads due to which they are alien to decency, etiquette, courtesy and whose hearts are made of stone, the ones who are taught class system right from birth and live in a make believe world of royals due to which they think that they are princes whose only job is to oppress and exploit their praja and treat them as slaves.

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Unread post by S. Insaf » Sat May 22, 2010 9:17 am

A bunch of spoiled brats for whom power has gone into their heads due to which they are alien to decency, etiquette, courtesy and whose hearts are made of stone, the ones who are taught class system right from birth and live in a make believe world of royals due to which they think that they are princes whose only job is to oppress and exploit their praja and treat them as slaves.
Historians have described "Yazid bin Maoviyah" in the same words.

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Re: shame on all shedaaz

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Unread post by Zeal » Sun May 23, 2010 9:30 am

I am staunch beliver of syedna but this bloody shedaaz and his chamchaaz have really pissed me off.
One of these shehdaaza will be the 53rd dai in the future, and you will become a staunch believer of him then?

applies to all abdes, who think dai is the best but the problem lies in shehdazaas

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Unread post by incredible » Mon May 24, 2010 12:35 am

Zeal wrote:
I am staunch beliver of syedna but this bloody shedaaz and his chamchaaz have really pissed me off.
One of these shehdaaza will be the 53rd dai in the future, and you will become a staunch believer of him then?

applies to all abdes, who think dai is the best but the problem lies in shehdazaas

only time will show if any of this shezada qualify to become a dai.

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Unread post by Smart » Mon May 24, 2010 3:56 am

^
What is the qualification required to become a dai? Can you please give reference?Presently the only qualification required is being born in the family of the present dai and being called shahzaadas.

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Unread post by profastian » Mon May 24, 2010 4:47 am

Smart wrote:^
What is the qualification required to become a dai? Can you please give reference?Presently the only qualification required is being born in the family of the present dai and being called shahzaadas.
Why do you want to apply for the post. :mrgreen: You wud make a gud DAI for the proggies :)

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Unread post by Smart » Mon May 24, 2010 6:15 am

Please, if you don't have anything substantial to say, don't start ridiculing others.

if there is a set of qualifying standards, put them up or my contention that family links matter, stays.

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Unread post by profastian » Mon May 24, 2010 7:53 am

Smart wrote:Please, if you don't have anything substantial to say, don't start ridiculing others.

if there is a set of qualifying standards, put them up or my contention that family links matter, stays.
There is no qualifying standard. Its upto to the DAI to select his successor. Family Links doesn't come into it at all. The selected person could be a common mumin as well.
Why are you so sure that it will be one of the sons. Have you got any inside news?

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Unread post by Smart » Mon May 24, 2010 9:10 pm

@profastian,
only time will show if any of this shezada qualify to become a dai.
There is no qualifying standard. Its upto to the DAI to select his successor.
In less than half a dozen posts you contradict yourself, and ridicule others in between. I would appreciate if you read your own posts.

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Unread post by aqs » Tue May 25, 2010 12:29 am

profastian wrote:There is no qualifying standard. Its upto to the DAI to select his successor
there is small correction:

Dai is chosen as per the Ilhaam of Imam uz zamaan

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Unread post by S. Insaf » Tue May 25, 2010 1:43 am

if there is a set of qualifying standards, put them up
Dear Smart, Please see No. 13 "Dai and his qualifications" here on this board.

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Unread post by Smart » Tue May 25, 2010 1:48 am

^
Thanks. I have read them. I was just checking if the regressives have any idea what they are talking about.

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Unread post by aqs » Tue May 25, 2010 1:59 am

Rules laid by Syedna Hatim and interpreted in his own way by A. A Engineer, do you want to debate on the basis of this.

This has been debated on this very forum between A A Engineer and Murtuza or might be Qiyam, if you want i can dig out the thread for you

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Unread post by profastian » Tue May 25, 2010 2:55 am

Smart wrote:@profastian,
only time will show if any of this shezada qualify to become a dai.
There is no qualifying standard. Its upto to the DAI to select his successor.
In less than half a dozen posts you contradict yourself, and ridicule others in between. I would appreciate if you read your own posts.
Point out any two posts which are contradictory.