Abdes - what happens in a Bohri Mosque these days?

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bohri
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Abdes - what happens in a Bohri Mosque these days?

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Unread post by bohri » Thu May 27, 2010 2:51 pm

Judging by the pictures in Malumaat. Mumineen.org and other such sites, all that ever happens in bohri mosques these days is kadambosis, salaam, wadhawa and adulation of the Sultan and his children. How elaborate are the decorations put up by the abdes. This is all very cute - decorations in the form of candies, cakes being cut, etc. The security guard in his red regalia is especially endearing, sooooo sweeeet! So much more fun than the austere functions in other muslim mosques!

But is there any praying going on during these meetings?

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Unread post by rania » Thu May 27, 2010 2:58 pm

Curiosity killed the cat ? :shock:

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Unread post by Humsafar » Thu May 27, 2010 3:14 pm

rania wrote:Curiosity killed the cat ? :shock:
Right. If Bohras become curious enough their curiosity will certainly kill the kothar's fat cats!!!!

mumin
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Unread post by mumin » Sat May 29, 2010 2:03 pm

the bohri mosque is no longer a place of worship but an arena for collecting money and big parties. where you see the scary sight of 80 year old men kissing hands and feet of 12 year old.

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Unread post by rania » Sat May 29, 2010 4:01 pm

mumin wrote:the bohri mosque is no longer a place of worship but an arena for collecting money and big parties. where you see the scary sight of 80 year old men kissing hands and feet of 12 year old.
And you know this how exactly ? :roll:

Wolf in Sheep's clothing ? :mrgreen:

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Unread post by incredible » Sun May 30, 2010 12:33 am

Bohri mosque was and will be always a worship place and matame hussain mashallah....deaf dumb and blind people like u wont understand.

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Unread post by mumin » Sun May 30, 2010 1:30 pm

then how do you explain birthday parties and najwa collections.

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Unread post by Smart » Mon May 31, 2010 1:58 am

^
And sale of masalla space.

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Unread post by Maqbool » Mon May 31, 2010 7:15 am

And life size photos, Music on some occasion when CD's are played

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Unread post by profastian » Mon May 31, 2010 10:49 am

Maqbool wrote:And life size photos, Music on some occasion when CD's are played
Point out a single photo in any mosque around the world.

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Unread post by admirer » Mon May 31, 2010 1:21 pm

Maqbool wrote:And life size photos, Music on some occasion when CD's are played
The photos would never be in the main masjid. The photos, if at all there, would either be in markaz or sehan of masjid which is not waqf area. So nothing wrong in that.

And what you call music is actually marsiyah or matami noha.. You should be ashamed of calling that music.

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Unread post by admirer » Mon May 31, 2010 1:22 pm

And I agree with Smart.. Nowadays, in many places musallah space in masjid/markaz during ramzan is sold for fixed amount which is completely unfair.

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Unread post by Zeal » Mon May 31, 2010 4:13 pm

The photos, if at all there, would either be in markaz or sehan of masjid which is not waqf area. So nothing wrong in that.
Cant understand why you need a photo even in sehan which is used by people to pray when the waqf masjid gets filled.

Islam prohibits all sort of image creation practices any where in a muslim's life , so not stopping a photo in a sehan is like promoting it which is definitely a responsibility of a dai coming from fatimid dawat chain .

Not to forget the extensive photographic skills shown by abdes in waqf masjid on all occasions including yaume aashura!

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Mon May 31, 2010 5:35 pm

The masjids have also become multiplexes with life size screens used for screening the dai's bayan, in future we may also have a sophisticated home theatre system with surround sound to give a dolby/stereo effect to matams and there may also be a 3D screen to experience a true to life image of the dai. In that case volunteers will be stationed at the gates to give the 3D spectacles for Rs.52/- hoob. The libas-e-anwar will then be a kurta,saya,topi and the 3D spectacles which will cover the rest of the face as the balance is already covered by a dadhi.

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Unread post by incredible » Mon May 31, 2010 11:35 pm

ghulam muhammed wrote:The masjids have also become multiplexes with life size screens used for screening the dai's bayan, in future we may also have a sophisticated home theatre system with surround sound to give a dolby/stereo effect to matams and there may also be a 3D screen to experience a true to life image of the dai. In that case volunteers will be stationed at the gates to give the 3D spectacles for Rs.52/- hoob. The libas-e-anwar will then be a kurta,saya,topi and the 3D spectacles which will cover the rest of the face as the balance is already covered by a dadhi.

why dont u start writting bollywood scripts?tht will be a great job for u.

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Unread post by Maqbool » Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:52 am

profastian wrote:
Maqbool wrote:And life size photos, Music on some occasion when CD's are played
Point out a single photo in any mosque around the world.
Are you kidding!! Just visit the masjid during Salgirah drama and you will find sayednas life size photos just behind Amil bethak and it is so cleverly set that behind Amil seat the Kibla is covered with these photos and slogans. Even during namaj it is not removed and bohras are praying in front of the photos. It is all over the world.
admirer wrote:
Maqbool wrote:And life size photos, Music on some occasion when CD's are played
And what you call music is actually marsiyah or matami noha.. You should be ashamed of calling that music.


I think you have missed the function of iftettah of saifee Hospital relayed all over the world and most of the bohras have seen this in Masjid a song along with music were played. Also Kothar has started a drama serials to teach bohras, in that also there were musics.

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Unread post by SAJJAD » Tue Jun 01, 2010 10:01 am

I even have seen the complete family tree portraits of Burhanuddin family in masjid. Some idiot’s abdes even kiss the life-size photos of Burhanuddin when they enter to masjid. It’s so pathetic and mind boggling!

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Unread post by mumin » Tue Jun 01, 2010 11:10 am

would not be surprized when the fanatics start putting garlands around the dai's photo and and light some agar batti on his photo.

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Unread post by alik » Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:21 pm

dhari growing competition
tight rida kaa gharaa competition
husein,husein matam competition....

kbc(kaun bharegaa kitni wajebaat)
bohri bhai-doing salaam to the bhaisaheb and introducing himself,telling him all his problems
bhaisaheb-aaaoo,hume ne tame rame aa adbodhat khel,kaun bharegaa kitini wajebaat
aggar tamhe-dhs 1000 aap suu-tuu ayasi ek plain masaloo lainejasoo
aggar tamhe-dhs 2000 aap suu-tuu ayasi ek designer masaloo lainejasoo
aggar tamhe-dhs 5000 aap suu-tuu ayasi maula nuu phooke lu pani,tasbee laine jasoo
aggar tamhe-dhs 10000 aap suu-tuu ayasi silver nuu sikoo laine jasoo
and many more....

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Tue Jun 01, 2010 3:53 pm

incredible wrote:why dont u start writting bollywood scripts?tht will be a great job for u.
Why dont you start a PR firm with a motto.. "Contact us for Incredible results", I hope with all your closeness to zaadas, kothar will immediately hire you for all the PR work for the dai, we may get to see some more kothar sponsored sites like Incrediblemal (umat).com or Incrediblemumin.org. Or else politics would be another choice because it is the place where goondas with serious criminal records get elected and the system is full of corruption, very similar to your beloved kothar administration whose defence is your ibadat.

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Unread post by incredible » Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:20 am

alik wrote:dhari growing competition
tight rida kaa gharaa competition
husein,husein matam competition....

kbc(kaun bharegaa kitni wajebaat)
bohri bhai-doing salaam to the bhaisaheb and introducing himself,telling him all his problems
bhaisaheb-aaaoo,hume ne tame rame aa adbodhat khel,kaun bharegaa kitini wajebaat
aggar tamhe-dhs 1000 aap suu-tuu ayasi ek plain masaloo lainejasoo
aggar tamhe-dhs 2000 aap suu-tuu ayasi ek designer masaloo lainejasoo
aggar tamhe-dhs 5000 aap suu-tuu ayasi maula nuu phooke lu pani,tasbee laine jasoo
aggar tamhe-dhs 10000 aap suu-tuu ayasi silver nuu sikoo laine jasoo
and many more....

I cant belive moron like you born in muslims family even kafirs are mush better then shiiit like you.

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Unread post by abbasmashraque » Wed Jun 02, 2010 8:06 am

Profastian/Admirer
Here is the link , where you can see for yourself they had put photos of Syedna in Udaipur Mosque
http://www.malumaat.com/adv/akhbar/item/1058.html

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Unread post by admirer » Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:54 am

abbasmashraque wrote:Profastian/Admirer
Here is the link , where you can see for yourself they had put photos of Syedna in Udaipur Mosque
http://www.malumaat.com/adv/akhbar/item/1058.html
Bro Abbas,

You are right!
But this seems to be a one time arrangement and the occasion is the maqdam majlis of shehzada saheb. So there shouldn't be any problem.

Yes, ideally there shouldn't be any pictures during namaz and there aren't.

And if at all it is there in any masjid, it's the fault of the masjid's caretakers and not dai's!

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Unread post by admirer » Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:59 am

incredible wrote:
alik wrote:dhari growing competition
tight rida kaa gharaa competition
husein,husein matam competition....

kbc(kaun bharegaa kitni wajebaat)
bohri bhai-doing salaam to the bhaisaheb and introducing himself,telling him all his problems
bhaisaheb-aaaoo,hume ne tame rame aa adbodhat khel,kaun bharegaa kitini wajebaat
aggar tamhe-dhs 1000 aap suu-tuu ayasi ek plain masaloo lainejasoo
aggar tamhe-dhs 2000 aap suu-tuu ayasi ek designer masaloo lainejasoo
aggar tamhe-dhs 5000 aap suu-tuu ayasi maula nuu phooke lu pani,tasbee laine jasoo
aggar tamhe-dhs 10000 aap suu-tuu ayasi silver nuu sikoo laine jasoo
and many more....

I cant belive moron like you born in muslims family even kafirs are mush better then shiiit like you.
Alik,
this is a forum discussion, not a 2nd class poetry competition.
And by the way your sense of humor sucks. Instead of KBC you should name your competition as KBKW
Also your Gujarati script is hilarious. btw how much Wajebat did you pay? :mrgreen:

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Unread post by SENSODYNE » Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:25 am

incredible wrote:Bohri mosque was and will be always a worship place and matame hussain mashallah....deaf dumb and blind people like u wont understand.
This is an insult to deaf dumb and blind people.


http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/conten ... a789691414

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Unread post by SBM » Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:46 am

^
what was the purpose of that link if you can not open without registration. I wish in this kind of cases instead of link provide a synopsis of the article and if any one is interested they can either purchase or register to read. I will not do that without knowing the content.

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Unread post by zak » Sat Jun 12, 2010 7:55 am

photographs of human mortal in a mosque? isnt that shirk in Islam ? interesting ...are bohras muslims?

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Unread post by incredible » Sat Jun 12, 2010 8:04 am

zak wrote:photographs of human mortal in a mosque? isnt that shirk in Islam ? interesting ...are bohras muslims?

show me any single photograph of any individual in bohra mosque.bohras are muslim then any other muslim sect in world,so shut your mouth untill u know the fact.

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Unread post by zak » Sat Jun 12, 2010 8:10 am

i have never been to a boha mosque. i am just commenting on discussions above about what happens in a bohri mosque.scroll up and read . are all those comments incorrect. thanks .

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Unread post by incredible » Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:01 am

zak wrote:i have never been to a boha mosque. i am just commenting on discussions above about what happens in a bohri mosque.scroll up and read . are all those comments incorrect. thanks .

then dont trust every thing written on this forum most are just envy from bohras because they have been kicked out of our community,and all bull sh**t comes out of them just coz of jeolousy.