ashra 1432

[alik]

...see this
''A meeting of Khaleej Jameat was arranged on Friday 15 October at Burhani masjid Dubai under the leadership of Janab Kinana Bhaisaheb Jamaluddin, Dubai Aamilsaheb.

Shk Shabbirbhai Najmi, Secretary of Anjuman-e-Najmi Dubai, welcomed the Jameat ayaan, who were led by their respective Ummal Kiraam and Masools from Sharjah, Abudhabi, Al Ain, Ajman, Kuwait and Muscat and thanked them for coming to Dubai at such a short notice. Janab Kinana Bhaisaheb informed the majlis that a special invitation had been received from the respected Ruler of Dubai His Highness Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum inviting Huzurala TUS to grace the Ashara Mubaraka 1432 Waaz majlis in Dubai and would make all amenities available to the Bohra community to host this event in Dubai.

All Ummal Kiram narrated the barakaat received since the last Ashara Mubaraka in Dubai in 1425, and felt that the Khaleej should do araz to Aqa Maula TUS to perform Ashara Mubaraka regardless of the current difficult economic times.

Various speakers such as Sharjah Aamilsaheb, Janab Qusai bs Jamaluddin and Abu Dhabi Aamilsaheb Janab Zohair bs Ezzuddin, among others, gave examples of Mumineen's tremendous progress in both Deeni and Dunyavi aspect which came about as a result of 1425 Ashara Mubaraka. The progress included Financial prosperity, Upliftment, Deeni talim, New Masajid & Madrasa construction not only in the UAE but in other Bilad of Al Khaleej.

Statistics narrated by speakers estimated more than 45,000 Mumineen in Khaleej to get Barakat of Aqa Maula TUS Ashara Mubaraka Waaz Mubarak plus thousands of Mehmaan who will come to Dubai to take barakat of Asahara Mubaraka 1432.

The meeting concluded with a unified araz for Ashara Mubaraka 1432 to be held in Khaleej and requested Janab Kinana Bhaisaheb to present the Araz on their behalf.

All pledged their full support for a successful Ashara Mubaraka 1432 to be held in Khaleej with Dubai as the Venue.''

lord pls spare us all the torchers....we dont want to be part of this dhramaaa
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[ghulam muhammed]

It is rumoured that Houston, USA is the hot favourite venue for the upcoming Mohurrum tamasha. It seems that till date they have emerged as the highest bidder. No prizes for guessing the amount....... Colombo was selected a few years back and their bid was around Rs.40 crores so now with inflation at its peak and the dollar at its lowest level in a decade the amount should not be difficult to guess, plus this may be the "extra premium" vayez as it coincides with the dai's 100th birthday. Expect more fireworks in the days to come.

[incredible]

USA will be the next ashara spot inshallah,but just speculating.

[porus]

I hear that Orange County Jamaat in Los Angeles is accelerating the building pace for its new masjid in time for its iftitah by Sayedna around Muharram, 1432 H.

[ghulam muhammed]

According to the latest buzzword going around, Dubai has emerged as the prefered destination. Probably Sheikh Makhtum has sent signals to kothar which will benefit him and his people because the current lull in dubai economy and the property market going bust, the sheikh needs some revenue. And what better then the dumb bohras who will flock in thousands thereby providing the much needed revenue to dubai by way of air tickets,hotel bookings and the shopping bonanza.

Now if at all burhanudin saab chooses dubai as his next mohurrum tamasha then abdes will be made to believe that the dubai sheikh has personally invited him to give barkat and rescue the dubai economy, he may also send his private jet which is no big deal seeing the larger revenue which would be generated.

[Al Zulfiqar]

if dubai is chosen for this azeem-us-shaan sharaf, it will be interesting to see how the visas are handed out this time. last time, nearly 3000+ bohras had absconded after abandoning their passports, leaving the dubai jamaat holding the bag.

the dubai deptt of economic development and tourism had also fined the dubai jamaat 10 million dirhams for these large numbers of absconders, and also for bohras having damaged hotel rooms, stolen hotel property like towels, cutlery and linen, caught stealing from shops and indulging in prostitution. The last time the dubai jamaat had taken total responsibility for each and every bohra who were given visas, issued by dubai immigration, but processed by dubai jamaat. this has never ever been done before in the history of dubai.

let us see what the dubai jamaat does this time, maybe they will keep some hefty deposit from each bohras to cover their losses this time.

[Fatwa Banker]

If they were indeed partaking in prostitution I am assuming they would take precautions so that AZ wouldn't know about it and post it on this forum. Just curious as to what the source of your information is for these accusations, and if there any facts to back it up just to be fair to everyone involved.

[Al Zulfiqar]

If they were indeed partaking in prostitution I am assuming they would take precautions so that AZ wouldn't know about it and post it on this forum. Just curious as to what the source of your information is for these accusations, and if there any facts to back it up just to be fair to everyone involved.

FB, i appreciate your concern on balanced reporting.

the women who were caught indulging in immoral activities were jailed and deported after fines were paid. as for the fines imposed on the dubai jamaat, there was an official circular from the dubai deptt of commerce and tourism to the jamaat which every committee member in the jamaat there knows about and is common knowledge.

the kothar asked every jamaat in the each major city around the world, from where bohras had gone for the ashura picnic, to circulate an email asking if anyone knew of any bohras who had gone to dubai and did not return, as the dubai govt needed the tally of visitors. although the no. was not officially declared, over 3000+ bohra visitors had disappeared after the tamasha. through my contacts in the dubai jamaat committee i came to know that dubai jamaat was asked to produce these bohras within a week or pay the fine. that is when leading jamaats in india and elsewhere were asked to rush funds to mumbai within 48 hours. my childhood friend in pune, now a sheikh and in the jamaat committee, informed me privately that the pune amil managed to collect and send a sum of 1 crore rs for this purpose.

no matter how much the kothar tries to hide facts, they still manage to leak out. the way one finds out is by reading their subsequent actions. it is the same story with syedna having been banned in saudi for over 20 years and only recently allowed in after fervent entreaties and requests.

[ghulam muhammed]

The Kanidivli (Mumbai) Amil has informed bohras that each family will have to shelve out Rs.10,000/- in case this year's Mohurrum tamasha is held at marol which according to him is most likely to happen.

I think the betting syndicate should be informed of one more area of business i.e. "new game of guessing" which could rake in enough moolas for them.

[Al Zulfiqar]

bro. gm,

that is an excellent idea and one which must be widely circulated among the merchant class hindus who compulsively gamble during diwali. i personally know of several who place large bets on all manner of things.

this annual ashura tamasha is certainly worth betting on and could make many gamblers insanely rich. besides it would be a highly interesting bet, as so many variables come into play. financial resources available to the leading jamaat contenders, logistics arrangements, invitations which can be manipulated from govts, celebrity photo-ops, additional attractions like numbers of potential sheikhs and mullahs ready for slaughter,
the opportunities post the 10 day chest beatings, like shopping, sightseeing and most important any possibilities for shikar trips and big game which could be murdered by syedna, the aspect of exotic and new destinations which would increase the motivation for bohra "ya-hussain" tourists. the ease of getting visas, enough local bohras submissive enough to put up with odious palidu-guzzling outsiders and so on.

this could be even developed by some bohra whiz kid into an exciting play station game. feed in the inputs, get your horses ready and voila, bet for your favorite moze' or bilad and take home the trophy.. !!

shu eni shaan che..! aa waqhate ashura ma ghani maza aavi.. shu intezaam hato, su jaman, su dil halavi daiy eva bayan.. wah!

[Maqbool]

I heard that the Sidhpuries are also in the line and they have already given a jiafat spending one crore Rs. in the niyat of Asara at Sidhpur.

[ghulam muhammed]

I heard that the Sidhpuries are also in the line and they have already given a jiafat spending one crore Rs. in the niyat of Asara at Sidhpur.

Bro Maqbool,

Yes you are right, Sidhpur was also considered for this years Mohurrum tamasha but due to the absence of hotels and dearth of other alternate accomodation it was struck off from the list of probables.

[ghulam muhammed]

The New Avtar of KBC (Kaun Banega Crorepati)..... KBB (Kaun Banega Bali ka Bakra).

Big B : Is saal ke Mohurrum tamasha ke liye kaun banega bali ka bakra ?
Aap Ke Options hai.... a) Mumbai ki jamat b) Houston ki Jamat or c) Dubai ki Jamat.

Abde : ??????????

Big B : Kya Aap Lifeline use karna chahoge ?

Abde : Jee Haan, Lifeline hogi 'phone a friend'.

Big B : Aap Kise phone karna chahoge ?

Abde : Shahzada Mufaddal bhai saab ko.

The phone rings and Muffi comes on line.

Abde : Janab, Qadambosi arz karu chhu, Aap takleef farmavi ne kaheso ke aa varsh Huzure-ala nu Ashra Mubarak kya chhe ?

Mufi : Arre bewakuf phone jaldi muki de, maro time waste na kar. Main humna 'bidding process' ma busy chhu, Dubai ane America ni jamat maa ghani kashmakash chaali rahi chhe. Dubai thi bidding kari rahiyo chhe ramakdawala ane USA thi olo Dahodwala je Saifee Hospital ni scheme maa 52 crore rupya aapa hata. Phone muk nahi to tane baraat kari kaaris. The abde shivers and cuts the line.

Big B : Aap doosri lifeline use karna chahoge ?

Abde : Ji Haa, 50/50.

Big B : Computerji ek option ko lock kar dijiye.... Haa... ab aap ke 2 option bache hai Dubai Jamaat aur USA Jamaat.

Abde : Dubai jamat.

Big B : Computerji Dubai jamat ko lock kar de.

The Abde and the entire audience is tense and waits anxiously for the right answer..........

Big B : Is prashna ka uttar hum denge break ke baad.... yaani Eid-e-Ghadir ke baad.

[Al Zulfiqar]

bro. gm,

in a normal episode of KBC, the contestant can hope to win a prize of 1 crore. in this revised bohra version, even if you win, you lose! you see, the prize will be taken away from you immediately by a zaada on the grounds that they require the funds for making arrangements at the latest ashara venue.

in return they may reward you by making you a bohra scout and delegating you to crowd control duties at the mawaid, which is an azeem-us-shaan sharaf as you can catch fleeting glimpses of the syedna and qasre aali.

wah, su eni niraali shaan che, ena ehsaan beshumaar che...

[ghulam muhammed]

Ashara Ohbat meeting in Mumbai

MEETING OF DIFFERENT COMMITEE HELD BY MOHAMMEDI MOHALLAH UNDER JANAB AMIL SAHEB….TO DISCUSS PROGRAMES SO THAT AQA MOALA HELDS ASURAH MUBARAK’S WAAZ 1432 IN MUMBAI.

http://akhbar.mumineen.org/2010/10/28/p ... in-mumbai/

Another Lisan-e-daawat word... "Ohbat".

[ghulam muhammed]

First it was MAATAM on Mohurrum, then maatam on marriage, birthdays, darees and after fard namaz, now "Matam" majlis so that Burhanuddin saab should choose Mumbai at his next Mohurrum tamasha. I bet a few must be beating their chests in despair !!!. A real mockery of the shahadat of Imam Hussain (a.s.).

Matam Majlis took place in Raudat Tahera on Neyyat of Aqa Maula TUS should perform 1432 Ashara Mubaraka in Mumbai.
http://akhbar.mumineen.org/2010/10/26/v ... at-tahera/

[ghulam muhammed]

With the niyat of Ashara Mubaraka of Huzurala TUS in Marol Jamiat, there was Daris majlis and matam majlis.

http://akhbar.mumineen.org/2010/10/26/p ... -in-marol/

[incredible]

GM u must have lost your mind that u have a problem with matam,for a momeen and shiyate Ali, day and night and every moment of life shud be matam e Hussain(a.s),so come out of your illusion.


for a momeen every day is ashura every land is karbala .

[merchant786]

how many bohras think that matam is for everytime
according to me namaaz and reciting quran was also needed once in a day.
have you ever been to a bohra masjid in the time of namaaz.you will not see more than 10 people at a time.
many a times aamil is not there for offering namaaz.so what are your comments on this mandatory things according to islam?
how many times have on this forum has any abde spoken about namaaz or quran?
Is it thats not at all relevant because you are dawoodi bohra?
why are there only 2 faraz been prayed in moharram's afternoon namaaz?
how many times have you seen a zaada reciting quran instead of sitting for ziyafat or qadambosi?
Awaiting answers!!!!!!!!!!!

[Al Zulfiqar]

GM u must have lost your mind that u have a problem with matam,for a momeen and shiyate Ali, day and night and every moment of life shud be matam e Hussain(a.s),so come out of your illusion.


for a momeen every day is ashura every land is karbala .

incredible, its obvious that YOU have lost yr mind. perhaps the daily hours spent in incessant self-flagellation, beating yrself on yr chest, head and face, seems to have led to chronic waterlogging in yr brain.

according to yr own statement, ("for a momeen and shiyate Ali, day and night and every moment of life shud be matam e Hussain") since every hour, min and second shud be devoted to maatam, i am surprised how u find the time to post here when u shud be doing maatam?? do u also do maatam at work in yr office, in the toilet, in bed and in the shower too?

i am incredibly incredulous at yr priorities in life as a muslim and 'momeen'; is namaaz, observance of piety in actions, speech and thought, doing noble deeds helping others in life more important, or indulging in senseless self-inflicted violence?

btw, as per the shia and syedna inspired versions of the shahadat bayans, hussain was asked at the very last minute by Gibraeel whether an army of angels can provide help and vanquish the evil enemy in an instant, but hussain enquired as to the wish of Allah and was told that Allah desired that hussain take the path of martrydom. so hussain laid down his life in the cause of islam and righteousness. should this be a cause for sorrow ad infinitum, or lead to a resolve "for all momeen and shiyate Ali', to fight evil and excess and transgressions everywhere, but esp. in their own lives?

sorrow in excess is "kufr", worshipping the syedna to the point where u think he does miracles day in and day out is "shirk", whilst overlooking the excesses of his parasitic family at our expense is exactly the type of karbala on whose grounds u shud seek shahadat, instead of beating yrself silly to the point of mental retardation.

[Smart]

@incredible,

Dictionary meaning of incredible:
–adjective
not credible; hard to believe; unbelievable

Is that why your posts on behalf of your masters are incredible?

[JC]

Bro Al-Zulfikar,

You have summarized it all .......

Bro Smart,

Good stuff.

Add to what all these idiot abdes are doing is Grave Worshipping (= Idol Worshipping) which is also kufr and shirk. Abdes do not believe in 'See what is being said and not who is saying' rather 'Believe in WHO is saying irrespective of what is being said' ........ so even a great grand zada arrives and will say anything rubbish, they will shout AWESOME......

Bohras today are a lost community who are willing sheeps who adore to be slaughtered after abuse.

[ghulam muhammed]

It is reported that the gullible abde billionaires of Dubai who in the past had willingly offered themselves as sacrificial lambs are now giving a very lukewarm response to the idea of burhanuddin saab's Mouhurrum tamasha this time around. This is due to the fact that dubai's economy has considerably slowed down due to the property market going bust (majority of bohra businessmen deal in hardware and building material) and also due to the fact that the previous tamasha had costed them a whooping 58 million dirhams (it seems they are still repaying kothar the balance of the promised amount) and now this year's mohurrum tamasha coinciding with the centenary birthday celebrations of their master is bound to cost them much much more then before. It seems the kothar wont settle for anything less then a 100 crore being the dai's salaam alone, remember the sri lankan jamaat had shelled out 40 crores some years back.

Just think an amount of over 100 crore being spent only to display to the world their dai's 'show of strength', an act of pure self glorification and if only a single mohurrum tamasha is avoided and the money is spent on the upliftment of the poor bohras then poverty in bohras could be completely eradicated.

[Maqbool]

{Vatan Sidhpur} Ashara Mubaraka 1432 Preparation -Taabudaat amaal
...
From:
Aamil Saheb Sidhpur <sidhpuramil@alvazarat.org>


To: vatan-sidhpur@googlegroups.com
Baad Saalam,



Shahzada Aliqader ni mansha mutabiq har Sidhpur na vatni, mumeneen, memenaat ane farzando Eid na din, Silat ane Najwa na sathe Ashara 1432 Sidhpur ma thai te niyyat si fakhir raqam, 1400, 2700, 5200 ya ziyada Nazrul-Maqam AS araz kare.


All Aayaan-ul-Jamaat and Taabudaat Data Incharge: Please seek raza from your city’s Aamilsaheb to

a) issue separate envelopes,

b) to have them collected before Khutbah, and

c) to make a separate bank draft in the name of Dawat Hadiyah - Mumbai for Nazrul-Maqam and intimate it to Sidhpur Jamaat Office.



This will be submitted to Aqamoula (TUS) at the time of Sidhpur Ashara Araz in Eid-ul-Adha majlis, inshallah.


Abde Syedna (TUS)

Abdulhusain Bhaisaheb

Aamilsaheb - Sidhpur

--
May Allah grant long and healthy life ta qayamat to our beloved Aqamoula Dr. Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin Saheb (TUS).

DISCLAIMER: Sidhpur Jamaat and moderator/s of this list are not responsible for the opinions and information posted by the members of this mailing list.

To post to this group, send email to vatan-sidhpur@googlegroups.com


This mail is received from a sidhpuri friend shows shazadas' madness towards money. have any moral of Abdes on this board to explain this madness!!

[SBM]

Can some one from Other side explain the significance of Nazar Ul Muqum and how that money was supposed to be used.
Using Nazar Ul Muqum to give to Syedna as Najwa may be the violation of Intent of Nazar Ul Muqam. ( Again I may be wrong that is why need explanation from People like Aqs)

[Muslim First]

Nazar Ul Muqam.

Is there anything like Nazar Ul Muqam in Islam, Brother anajmi?

or

It is leftover belief from Hindu religion to Bohra religion.

[Conscíous]

{Vatan Sidhpur} Ashara Mubaraka 1432 Preparation -Taabudaat amaal
...
From:
Aamil Saheb Sidhpur <sidhpuramil@alvazarat.org>

All Aayaan-ul-Jamaat and Taabudaat Data Incharge: Please seek raza from your city’s Aamilsaheb to

a) issue separate envelopes,

b) to have them collected before Khutbah, and

c) to make a separate bank draft in the name of Dawat Hadiyah - Mumbai for Nazrul-Maqam and intimate it to Sidhpur Jamaat Office.



This will be submitted to Aqamoula (TUS) at the time of Sidhpur Ashara Araz in Eid-ul-Adha majlis, inshallah.


Abde Syedna (TUS)

Abdulhusain Bhaisaheb

Aamilsaheb - Sidhpur

--

All I can see is greed & love for money...

May Allah grant long and healthy life ta qayamat to our beloved Aqamoula Dr. Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin Saheb (TUS).

Does this mean the day Syedna Saheb passes away, it will be quyamat for the abdes??

[Maqbool]

Can some one from Other side explain the significance of Nazar Ul Muqum and how that money was supposed to be used.
Using Nazar Ul Muqum to give to Syedna as Najwa may be the violation of Intent of Nazar Ul Muqam. ( Again I may be wrong that is why need explanation from People like Aqs)

The Najwa and Najrulmukam both are different collection. Najwa is gift to Sayedna when they will go for araz and NM for minnat so that NM saheb force Sayedna to go to Sidhpur.

[Muslim First]

Now who is this Nazar Ul Muqam AS saheb?

Does he take Laach Ruswat to fulfill minnat?

[S. Insaf]

Does this mean the day Syedna Saheb passes away, it will be quyamat for the abdes??

Galib had said on the death of his son:
Jate huve kehte ho Quamat mein mileyn ge
Goya ke Quayamat ka hai koyee din aur