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incredible
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Unread post by incredible » Tue Nov 02, 2010 11:45 am

bismillah hir rahmanir rahim....


it was Imam Ali (a.s) who use to eat oat that too just three lukmaa,it was rasullullah(saw) who use to starve for many days in the name of Allah and use to donate more and more to hungry and poor muslim ummah...

and here is this rascal (i donno his name) who is enjoying lavish dinner and lunch forgetting poor community members.may Allah curse this @#$% for utilizing money for his own enjoyment.

http://www.malumaat.com/lite/akhbar/item/1351.html



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Unread post by SBM » Tue Nov 02, 2010 11:55 am

You do not know him, he may be next Syedna, Aliwaqar Shezaada Malikul Ashtar, Entire North America is under his control. :?:



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Unread post by incredible » Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:13 pm

if he really has any talent he is not needed in north america he shud work in rural areas of india specially gujrat to bring community up.but it is really sad how he is passing his life time in luxury while community is in problem.



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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:08 pm

incredible wrote:and here is this rascal (i donno his name) who is enjoying lavish dinner and lunch forgetting poor community members.may Allah curse this @#$% for utilizing money for his own enjoyment.
Have you seen the food that is served in ziafats ? It may put the best of 5 star hotel cuisine to shame, the number of kharas/mithas, the exotic fruits and the choicest of dryfruits not to forget the CHILLED Pepsi which is mandatory in Burhanuddin saab's ziafat as that drink happens to be his favourite.

During Bakri Idd you will find the zaadas and zaadis feasting on the choicest of kababs in the sprawling lawn of their palace (Saifee Mahal) alongwith STUFFED BAKRAS.



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Unread post by bensaheba » Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:24 pm

During the recent visit of this Shahzada Malik ul Ashtar Bhaisaheb to Fremont, CA. a momin bhai in his ziafat mentioned of a dream he had to the shahzada. instead of giving him the ta'abeer (or meaning) of this strange dream the shahzada asked him to increase his vajebaat to $40,000.00 next year. What an opportune moment to make money. In the mind of poor momin he thinks the dream was somehow related to him not paying enough vajebaat in previous years. As it is their ziafat salaams are exorbitant ($7,500) with no room for negotiations. When and where will this greed stop. Allah please help us poor momineen. Our men have lost their balls to stand up, sorry for my language but it is the truth.



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Unread post by seeker110 » Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:27 pm

He does'nt look that heavy,but people around him look like pigs.Food should be a necessity.Bohras live in Calif., and dont enjoy the outdoors.All restaurants have buffets,people will take ten diff. things,leaving no choice for the rest of the week.Same bull is in churches,they bribe with pot luck.Its a curable disease.Mostly spread by organized religion.



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Unread post by Muslim First » Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:30 pm

Our men have lost their balls to stand up, sorry for my language but it is the truth
Bohri women are equally to be blamed. They like to socialise, gossip and show off.



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Unread post by Aarif » Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:49 pm

Bhai Incredible (sorry if you are a bhen),

Tamhe aa su bolo cho. Aa toh Imam Husain ni niyaaz nu jaman che. Maulana Ali be niwaala javni sukhi roti naa namak na paani maa dubaawine khaata tha ane dua karta tha ki Malekul-ashtar bhaisaab jeeva mumin hewi nemat jami sakhe. Aa Imaam Husain naa wasila ane apnaa shafiq baawa Syedna Muhammad Burhanuddin sahebni dua che ki mumineen ne aa nemat nasib thai che. Jeh mumineen ne aa jaman mile che ae mumineen pet bharine ne jami le. Beeja bhukaa mumineen ni fikar naa kare. Bhukaa pyaasa mumineen Imam Husain no maatam kari ne paani peene diwas gujaari lesse.. Agar bhukh naa maare emni jaan nikli jasse toh aamne shahid nu khitab milse. Apna shafiq bawaa amne ruh waste dua farmaawse. Aameen....



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Unread post by seeker110 » Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:52 pm

Br. MF have you ever seen group of women sitting quietly.Gossip is spiritual food for the ladies.



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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:09 pm

omabharti wrote:You do not know him, he may be next Syedna, Aliwaqar Shezaada Malikul Ashtar, Entire North America is under his control.
Look at the self imposed title of Malekul Ashtar (Nashtar) :-

Al Sayedulajal Valhomamul Mobajjal Aali Waqar Shz Malek ul Ashter Bhaisaheb Shujauddin Saheb DM graced this Ijtema by his presence.

http://akhbar.mumineen.org/2010/11/01/p ... n-houston/



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Unread post by bohri » Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:17 pm

Everything about this man spells sheer, unadulterated evil. His aggrandised title, the glint in his eye, his smug smile ("sagla bakra mill ya chhe"), the pleasure he enjoys with subservience, and especially the lustful look in the birthday cake picture - is it the cake or the adoring Abde's special pose?!!

Abde's the old Sultan took your dignity, this new one is after much more. Be prepared for a fun ride!



mumin
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#12

Unread post by mumin » Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:37 am

likr fathe like son. what is wrong with these human forms of bohris? are they deprrived of the one thing that seperates humans from animals? intelligence.



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#13

Unread post by Humsafar » Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:54 am

bensaheba wrote: When and where will this greed stop. Allah please help us poor momineen. Our men have lost their balls to stand up, sorry for my language but it is the truth.
The greed will stop the moment we stop feeding that greed. Allah never helps people who do not help themselves. Yes, it's time bohra men grew a pair.



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Unread post by Aarif » Wed Nov 03, 2010 12:09 pm

Look at his 4-day program in ATL.
Mumineen of Atlanta received the sharaf of As Sayyadul Ajal Val Humamul Mubajjal Shahzada Aliwaqar Malikul Ashtar Bhaisaheb Shujauddin Saheb.

Shahzada Saheb arrived on Saturday 23rd October evening. Janab Aamil Saheb Al Hadd Yusufbhaisaheb Zainuddin along with Ayyan ul Jamaat and mumineen received Shezada Saheb at the airport.

On Sunday 24th morning Janab Aamil Saheb Al Hadd Yusufbhaisaheb Zainuddin had the sharaf of hosting ziafat at Darul Imarat.

Thereafter Shahzada Saheb did muwaiyna of adjoining masjid site.

Then Shahzada Sahebpresided over Khair Maqdam Majlis at markaz and did bayaan which was followed by purjosh maatam. Mumineen were fortunate to do qadambosi which was followed by faakhir salawat jaman.

On Sunday night Vali Mulla Saheb Shk Shabbir bhai Bambot did ziafat of Shezada Saheb.

Here Shahzada Saheb took the misaaq of Shk Shabbir Bhai Bambot's son Murtuza.

Shk Shabbir bhai did Araz to Shahzada Saheb a madeh he has written on occasion of Aqa Mola TUS 100th milaad.

On Monday 25th Shahzada Saheb travelled to Columbia SC where mumineen had done ziafat of Shahzada Saheb at Mulla Khuzema Bhai Bhagat's house.

At nightShahzada Saheb arrived at M Mustansir Bhai Ali's residence for ziafat.

On Tuesday 26th afternoon M Juzar Bhai Kaka was fortunate to give ziafat of Shahzada Saheb and at night Shk Khuzaima Bhai Unchwaniwala was fortunate to give ziafat at his warehouse.

On Wednesday 27th after these 4 glorious barakaat filled days, sadness filled hearts of mumineen did al-wadaa to our beloved Shezada Aliwaqar Malikul Ashtar bhaisaheb Shujauddin DM from Atlanta.

We look forward to Shehzada saheb visiting us again in the near future. We pray that through his vasila we will soon have Maula’s TUS khair maqdam in these United States and to our city.. Aameen.

Mumineen of Atlanta offer laakho sajadaat-us-shukr to Aqa Moula (TUS) for the countless bounties he has bestowed upon us and for sending Shezada Saheb in our midst.

Khuda Ta’ala Aqa Moula (TUS) ni umr sharif ne sehat kaamela ma ta qiyaamat daraaz ane daraaz karjo, and may Khuda Taala grant his beloved Shezada Saheb a long and healthy life. Aameen!
This rogue did nothing accept devouring ziafats. And the idiot abdes are very happy that he blessed their homes with his farty ass. What a community.. Full of gullible idiots and cowards.



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#15

Unread post by Aarif » Wed Nov 03, 2010 12:11 pm

Mumin,

Can you please comment on the abdes who gave these lavish ziafats. Did they do this on their own free will or were forced in to it?



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Unread post by mumin » Wed Nov 03, 2010 3:14 pm

Bro Arif, I thought by now everybody knew about him and his character. All the abdes that did ziafat are in the goonda committee. you can verify from the names when you visit the atlanta jamaat web site. you can also go on youtube and watch him shouting at the top of his voice.



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Unread post by SAJJAD » Thu Aug 04, 2011 11:53 pm

Look at this Rascal H**** Zaada enjoying Fat Salams, Foot Kissings and Child Abusing! Specially photos No. 17 through 22.

PHOTOS: Shehzada Shujauddin Saheb DM in Kandivali -- http://www.mumineen.com



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Unread post by SAJJAD » Thu Aug 04, 2011 11:58 pm

Sorry for the typo .... Should be http://www.mumineen.org



Zeal
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Unread post by Zeal » Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:42 am

To my other abde brothers, i am sorry if my words may seem harsh, but we have to face reality that our Dai's children are perhaps not as spiritually inclined as our current Dai
Nalwalla, are you saying our current dai abstrains from lavish ziyafats and discourages heavy salaams on occasions , totally bans kadambosi which unfortunately has nothing to do with spitituality atleast in Islam ?
I think the above practices are on rise rather than decline , if you have come across instances where he has kept away from such things , please enlighten us.



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Unread post by Biradar » Fri Aug 05, 2011 12:45 pm

SAJJAD wrote:Look at this Rascal H**** Zaada enjoying Fat Salams, Foot Kissings and Child Abusing! Specially photos No. 17 through 22.

PHOTOS: Shehzada Shujauddin Saheb DM in Kandivali -- http://www.mumineen.com
Please do not get carried away. It is true that the bohras are very subservient and bend over for any two-dime shehzada but these pictures do not prove what you are accusing him of. It is common kiss the forehead of people as a sign of respect. Bohras do it specially when someone returns from haj. I have seen pictures of Sayedna Taher Saifuddin do this with his children and also seen in person the mazoon saheb do this with his children. I think this is really a sign of affection and respect and not any sort of abuse. Please do not say ridiculous things.

Also, this is not a ziyafaat. He is simply visiting them to lead prayers for a night in Ramazaan.



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Unread post by ozmujaheed » Sat Aug 06, 2011 12:49 am

Birader you may have left out

how saintly he visited their homes, declined the lavishes and passed on the salaams to a Bohri charity looking after sick and less fortunate bohras in Mumbai, Karachi and EA



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Unread post by Safiuddin » Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:16 am

He supposedly visited Kandivali to pray a sadaqallah for his sister,
yet he's taking salaams and posing with youths?
As for kissing the forehead of children, if he did that with EVERY
child, I'd have no issue. But he singled out a young boy out of all of the others?
I've met him several times (fortunately, I've never touched his person), and every time
it was like looking at a shaitaan or a jinn. There is a cold hatred in his eyes, and an
arrogance in his stance that is chilling.
I noticed that he went to a ziaafat TWICE a day. How is he leaving the US with all of this cash?
If not leaving with it, how is it deposited (presumably in a bank) without question from the IRS?



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Unread post by SBM » Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:14 am

mustafanalwalla
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Joined: Thu Mar 03, 2011 11:13 amunfortunately, truth of the matter is that most things that are going wrong in our community is because bawa saheb is unable to control his kids.
i have often had this argument with my other extremely devout friends, who btw, agree with me, that all that Syedna saab has to say is that this is against his wishes, and we will stop, but unfortunately, he cannot as his kids do not allow him to do so... so yes, he does not encourage it, but he cannot condone it either because somewhere down the road, his kids became far too powerful and are able to silence him and keep him quiet
[i]bawa saheb is unable to control his kids
So he is weak according to your statement
but unfortunately, he cannot as his kids do not allow him to do so
So Syedna doesnot get his Ilham from Imam but from his kids as per your logic
his kids became far too powerful and are able to silence him and keep him quiet
Dai is supposed to be the most powerful and not his kids as per our belief system
SO NOW THIS BRINGS TO QUESTION WHETHER THE MANSOOS SYEDI MUFFADAL BHAI SAHEB WAS NASS BECAUSE OF HIS CHILDREN OR REAL HE DID GET THE ILHAM FROM IMAM?
WHERE IS THE MAZOON SAHEB NOW A DAYS?



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Unread post by SBM » Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:26 am

Why are you trying to derail the topic?
And what is the topic " LOOK AT THIS RASCAL"



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Unread post by Zeal » Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:35 am

Zeal,

unfortunately, truth of the matter is that most things that are going wrong in our community is because bawa saheb is unable to control his kids.
Nalwalla,
I have always been reminded of the great leadership of our dai , which differentiates us from any other sect of believers of Islam.
If the leader is unable to control....then there is no leadership , hence we are no longer the pearls we thought we are embedded in one string.

Now if you look back in history, even prophet of Allah was opposed by his own people, but he chose to fight and he did won his battles.
Why does the dai who's only job is to establish and propogate daawat do not oppose his sons, not even once you and me have not seen it.

Moreover dont you think , if his mere principles were different than the practices we see today , he would have reflected it somewhere in his long reign as a dai?
Be honest to yourself...dont get carried away with the blind thought that dai is dai....he cannot be wrong!



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Unread post by SBM » Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:01 am

Yes OB, this topic was "Look at this rascal".

It was about Malek ul Ashthat and some Aamil. It was not about Nass and Mazoon Maula
Nalwala
My apologies to bring out Nass and Mazoon saheb but then you agree about Malek Ul Ashtar and some Aaamil as RASCALS because that is the topic :P



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Unread post by SBM » Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:16 am

MNalwala
Thanks the question is how do you stop Malek UL CHUSTER sorry Ashter from sucking the blood of community. We discussed the problems but no solutions and just throw the towels. If DBs and Progis can atleast work on ills of the community like one we are discussing, we can help resolve some of the issues which is dividing us.



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#28

Unread post by Safiuddin » Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:57 am

I have said this before on here and I'll say it again:
The best way to stop a parasite is to deprive it of its nourishment.
The only way that these liars and cheats are going to be curtailed is if
Bohras stop giving them money.
There was an earlier posting by a lady who stated that the menfolk have lost their
balls. Quite true.
Keep bending over until your beard nearly touches the ground, behave like a slave,
and continue with the puja-like behaviour, and the suppression will continue.
If people just stop giving money, then sooner or later they will feel the effects. Why does a
man (or woman) need to grovel in front of anyone? And why do Bohras HAVE to give there
money to these people? Is it because they believe that Burhanuddin and Ilk have some connection to
a god and an afterlife - and the only way to get there is through them? And that after paying huge sums of money?

This logic makes no sense. End the tyranny by saying: "Sorry, but I can't afford that. And I'm not indebting myself to pay that."
What - your prayers won't get heard if you say them at home? or in another masjid? or in any other place on earth?



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Unread post by student » Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:19 am

I dont find any thing serious in eating good food,if its in his rizzaq he is getting good food thats it.if its Allah's wish then who is me and you to question his will.



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Unread post by Safiuddin » Wed Aug 10, 2011 4:24 pm

if its Allah's wish then who is me and you to question his wi
Got that? What Burhanuddin and Ilk do is Allah's will.
How dare we question the will of God? Malik e Lashkar (er, i mean Ashtar) is only carrying out God's will.
Was it the will of Allah that Yusuf Najmuddin smuggle jewels in his paghri?
You must believe that Allah willed Burhanuddin and his gang to butcher innocent animals for sport?
Did Allah also will Burhanuddin to make nice-nice with Narendra Modi?
And surely, it must be Allah's will that Burhanuddin and his father declare themselves God on Earth
and the Stars of Husain?

Student you make me laugh with your drivel. Keep it up.