Malikul Ashtar

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Maqbool
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Re: Malikul Ashtar

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Unread post by Maqbool » Sat May 17, 2014 2:09 am

salaar wrote:iam going to present a proof to negate the wrong interpretation of mausam e bahar after sometime in a fresh thread
But before that please read the "Burhanpur dargha case" or Chandabhai Galla case". In this case this book was produced as exhibits and was excepted as an authentic by both the parties.

think
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Re: Malikul Ashtar

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Unread post by think » Sat May 17, 2014 8:53 am

matam to kothar is a means of control. Go to a ashura majlis in the bohri masjid and you will experience first hand. During the three hour vaez in the bohri mosque the old timers would be resting their backs against the walls and dozing off while children would either be playing or getting bored and sleeping in their adults laps and the young ones would be busy playing with their new found toy , the cellphone. suddenly their would be a loud recital of some marsia and people will start beating their chest not even understanding the meanings.
Malik ul ashtar has taken this a step further. He has no voccabulary. so everytime he is faced with a crowd of people he will start matam to digress. Blind following the shrewd and cunning.

Rebel
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Re: Malikul Ashtar

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Unread post by Rebel » Sat May 17, 2014 10:46 am

And I have hardly seen any bhaisahebs and amils to beat their chests in a severe manner, they only incite the mumineen to do matam like madmen...but they themselves will do it very slowly and softly. Only one time in my life I have seen an amil doing matam with both hands and that is because to impress some bhaisaheb who has appeared in sadarat that particular night and perhaps to impress some woman or women at the top as he kept on looking above where women sit while doing beating his chest violently. The bhaisaheb himself was doing matam very softly and with one hand.

tasneempati
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Re: Malikul Ashtar

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Unread post by tasneempati » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:48 am

Lately there is no news of Shz Malik-ul-Ashter BS ? Anyone knows his whereabout's ? Earlier he used to be hyper-active before Ramzan.

Shafakat
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Re: Malikul Ashtar

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Unread post by Shafakat » Mon Jun 23, 2014 8:28 am

People are starting to realise that he is nobody and are ignoring him. On his recent visit to Columbus, no one offered any Najwas or Ziafat, and in Cleveland, only one family showed up in majlis. There were more people in his entourage than the locals. Instead of jaman they ended going to a restaurant.

yuzarsif
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Re: Malikul Ashtar

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Unread post by yuzarsif » Mon Jun 23, 2014 8:57 am

He is going to Kandivali for Ramdan

Kharas_Mithas
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Re: Malikul Ashtar

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Unread post by Kharas_Mithas » Mon Jun 23, 2014 6:47 pm

There is an alleged fight ongoing for the post of mazoon, The game plan was to declare QJ, but recent reservations from malikul Ashtar have put the proceedings on hold. They cant dare to disappoint ashtar.

tasneempati
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Re: Malikul Ashtar

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Unread post by tasneempati » Tue Jun 24, 2014 3:55 am

yuzarsif wrote:He is going to Kandivali for Ramdan
FROM HOUSTON TO KANDIVALI , 'WHAT A DOWNFALL'.

Kharas_Mithas
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Re: Malikul Ashtar

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Unread post by Kharas_Mithas » Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:37 pm

tasneempati wrote:
yuzarsif wrote:He is going to Kandivali for Ramdan
FROM HOUSTON TO KANDIVALI , 'WHAT A DOWNFALL'.
Its like you got terminated from your service and ready to accept anything to keep you alive :wink:

wise_guy
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Re: Malikul Ashtar

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Unread post by wise_guy » Tue Jun 24, 2014 6:14 pm

@yuzarsif: wonder where did u get that news ? He ain't going anywhere.

Salaam al Jameel,

We are very fortunate that soon the Azeem month of Sherullah will be upon us and Inshallah with Aqa Moula’s (TUS) Dua and Raza Mubarak, we will have the privilege of doing Ibadaat with Shehzada Aali Waqaar Malek-ul-Ashtar Bhai saheb Shujauddin Saheb (DM).


Was Salaam,

Abeede Syedna TUS

Muwaid Khidmat Guzars of Houston
yuzarsif wrote:He is going to Kandivali for Ramdan

yuzarsif
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Re: Malikul Ashtar

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Unread post by yuzarsif » Wed Jun 25, 2014 12:08 am

wise_guy wrote:@yuzarsif: wonder where did u get that news ? He ain't going anywhere.

Salaam al Jameel,

We are very fortunate that soon the Azeem month of Sherullah will be upon us and Inshallah with Aqa Moula’s (TUS) Dua and Raza Mubarak, we will have the privilege of doing Ibadaat with Shehzada Aali Waqaar Malek-ul-Ashtar Bhai saheb Shujauddin Saheb (DM).


Was Salaam,

Abeede Syedna TUS

Muwaid Khidmat Guzars of Houston
yuzarsif wrote:He is going to Kandivali for Ramdan
I got the news from a relative residing in Kandivali

AbdulSaleh
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Re: Malikul Ashtar

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Unread post by AbdulSaleh » Fri Jun 27, 2014 11:59 pm

mike napak hain kyaa? ye banda kyaa samajhta apne aap ko? :roll: [/color]
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true islam
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Re: Malikul Ashtar

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Unread post by true islam » Sat Jun 28, 2014 12:24 am

Allah says in the Holy Quran Chapter 10 Surah Yunus verse 18:These people serve beside Allah those which can neither harm nor benefit them, and say, “These are our ‘shofa’a’ (intercessors) with Allah!” (O Mohammed), tell them, “Do you wish to inform Allah of that thing which He knows not in the heavens, or in the earth?” He is absolutely free from, and exalted above the shirk that they commit.
Allah says in the Holy Quran Chapter 22 Surah Hajj verse 77:O you who believe, do ‘rukoo’ and ‘sajdah’ to Allah Alone, worship Allah Alone, and do righteous deeds. It may be that you attain true success.

Allah says in the Holy Quran Chapter 39 Surah Zumur verse 2-3:So worship Allah Alone, making your religion His exclusively. Beware! Religion is the Exclusive Right of Allah. As for those who have taken other ‘auliyas’ (guardians) with Allah (and justify their this conduct by saying): “We serve them only that they may bring us closer to Allah.” Allah will surely judge between them concerning all that in which they differ. Allah does not show guidance to any liar and denier of the Truth.



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Re: Malikul Ashtar

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Unread post by true islam » Sat Jun 28, 2014 12:32 am

Allah says in the Holy Quran Chapter 9 Surah Taubah verses 34-35 :
O you who believe! There are indeed many among the priests and the holy men who devour the wealth of others by evil means, and debar the people from the Way of Allah. Give them the good news of a painful torment, who hoard up gold and silver and do not expend these in the Way of Allah. The Day shall surely come when the same gold and silver shall be heated in the fire of Hell, and with it will be branded their foreheads, their bodies and their backs. (And it will be said): “Here is that treasure you had hoarded up for yourselves! Taste now the evil of your hoarded treasure!”

Rebel
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Re: look at this rascal

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Unread post by Rebel » Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:24 am

incredible wrote:if he really has any talent he is not needed in north america he shud work in rural areas of india specially gujrat to bring community up.but it is really sad how he is passing his life time in luxury while community is in problem.
Lol....the leaders of the community have one objective in mind - the bring the community people down on their knees. They won't allow the community to be educated - educated mind is the liberated mind - open to empirical reasoning and questioning. The leaders will live off our lives. We are like animals for them or more like donkeys or horses to them, they will benefit from us to enrich their lives.

ghulam muhammed
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Re: Malikul Ashtar

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun Jun 29, 2014 4:50 pm

SHEHZADA AALIWAQAAR MALEKUL ASHTAR BHAI SAHEB SHUJAUDDIN DM MAQDAM AND ZIAFAT

With Aqa Moula TUS raza mubarak, mumineen of Houston will Insha Allah get the sharaf of doing Ibadaat in this auspicious month with Shehzada Aaliwaqaar Malekul Ashtar bhai saheb Shujauddin DM. Shehzada saheb will lead Maghrib and Isha namaz tonight, pehli raat of Ramadanul Moazzam.

Shehzada Aaliwaqar with karam and ehsan has accepted the ziafat of Anjuman-e-Shujaee on behalf of all Houston mumineen, muminaat and farzando, for tonight pehli raat of Ramadanul Moazzam.

MADRASAH TIMINGS FOR RAMADANUL MOAZZAM

During the month of Ramadanul Moazzam, Al Madrasatul Ezziah timings for Saturdays will be from 10:00 AM till 1:10 PM. After madrasah all children should attend Zohar namaz.

Students should bring their masallah, Quran, and tasbih with them. No one should miss madrasah classes during this auspicious month. Students will make Aqa Moula TUS milaad card, and write madeh of Moula TUS

SBM
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Re: Malikul Ashtar

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Unread post by SBM » Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:56 pm

Do you really see the true meaning of Maatam in the following picture
http://zeninfosys.net/zen/sites/default ... k=Aa8xlIaP

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Re: Malikul Ashtar

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Unread post by SBM » Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:58 pm


Rebel
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Re: look at this rascal

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Unread post by Rebel » Mon Jun 30, 2014 7:23 am

student wrote:I dont find any thing serious in eating good food,if its in his rizzaq he is getting good food thats it.if its Allah's wish then who is me and you to question his will.
Seriously, taking food from mumin and eating yourself is Allah's will, they extort everything out from mumineen and muminat and now even children and live in luxury, relishing good food -is that Allah's will.

think
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Re: Malikul Ashtar

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Unread post by think » Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:54 am

ashtar is staying low from the heat in india and pakistan and has taken refuge in houston, but mumineen think it is barakat for them. wake up houston this guy is a number one fraud.

alam
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Re: Malikul Ashtar

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Unread post by alam » Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:02 pm

I may have missed something during the first 10-15 days after wafaat of SMB, but please could someone enlighten me:

I was fully expecting Malikik Ashter to stand up in majlis and do takreer and curse Laanats on SKQ. I saw many shehzadas, Bhai sahebs, but not this MA. Anybody seen or heard him during that time say anything in public ?

PeaceInworld
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Re: Malikul Ashtar

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Unread post by PeaceInworld » Thu Jul 03, 2014 3:02 pm

think wrote:ashtar is staying low from the heat in india and pakistan and has taken refuge in houston, but mumineen think it is barakat for them. wake up houston this guy is a number one fraud.
What is the "heat" & where is it coming from? :?

seeker110
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Re: Malikul Ashtar

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Unread post by seeker110 » Thu Jul 03, 2014 6:08 pm

The Dai kitchen, too many cooks. Making Abde khitchera.

Rebel
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Re: Malikul Ashtar

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Unread post by Rebel » Fri Jul 04, 2014 9:35 pm

Almost everyone in the bloodline of TS, MB are frauds. You would find one in one hundred bahisahebs to be honest and conscientious individuals. They all have own axes to grind from us. He goona suck Houston high and dry this time. :lol:

SBM
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Re: Malikul Ashtar

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Unread post by SBM » Wed Jul 16, 2014 5:41 am

Seems he feels threatened within his own flock, See person wearing black Security valet In the next picture couple of more Security details

http://zeninfosys.net/zen/sites/default ... k=4rLv09tr

http://zeninfosys.net/zen/sites/default ... k=T78bxmiW

ghulam muhammed
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Re: Malikul Ashtar

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:01 am

watsup msg :-

Houstonians in USA are witnessing regularly each Ramzan day before Maghrib, 3 to 4 persons doing fakhir salams and wadhavni for Ziyafat (specially held in separate room).

One of the scapegoat of Ziyafat told that each participant spent altogether 8,000 dollars. Total 32,000 dollars each night is pocketed by Malik ul Ashtar.

There are around 1,500 bohras in Houston. Each is obligatory indebted to 50,000 to 1 lac dollars towards the construction of Mawaid and Masjid (closed for innaugration by MS), and mandatory forced to pay the amount in instalments. The ownership is finally transferred to MS.

About 100 plus reserved parking spaces are sold to VVIPs. The 1st floor of Mawaid is for ladies with special passes. No wonder down the road they will sell Masallah places also like Indo-pak., and they have every right to do it because the mumin have built the Mawaid and house of God by their hard earned money and then the Dai and his family grabbed it officially and trampling on the prostrating brain dead abdes and amtes, they are demonstrating their infinite powers.

Each maghrib prayer is followed by Malik ul Ashtar's mockery matam, in a sense, HAJI ZOR SI, HAJI ZOR SI, KHAALI MATAM NI AWAAZ, MATAM ZOR SI ANE HUSSAIN NI AWAAZ AHISTE, KHAALI 20 SECONDS ZOR (which goes for unlimited time). SMS MOLA TAMARO MATAM JOI RAHYA CHE. MARSIYA PADHO ANE HAWE KHAALI ZOR SI MATAM NI AWAAZ JE KE MOLA SUDHU POHNCE. MOLA TAMARA MATAM NE KABOOL KARI NE HUSSAIN A.S. NE HADIYO POHNCHAWSE., and exhibits what not dramas in the world.

Hungry and tired Rozadars don't even dare say a single word. How long will this injustice continue, God alone knows.

A systematic way needs to be discovered regarding stating their misdeeds, money laundering, malpractices and injustice to the masses, then signed by the sufferers and sent to the concerned authorities of influential countries !

Akhtiar Wahid
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Re: Malikul Ashtar

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Unread post by Akhtiar Wahid » Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:23 am

Arz kiya

yeh mataam e hussain ko kis qadr beizzat kar rahey hain
Inko Aur waqt diya hain, Panjatan Pak or Allah (SWT) in pe abhi has rahey hain

Waqt Kareeb hain jab yeh shirk ke us alam mein pohanch jaaengay
Jaha Allah (SWT) ki Ibadat se dur humko inki ibadat karwaengay ( 2 rakat tawasul tuluumar namaz BS)

Fir dekhna In Chuster, Muffu and Johnny ke mataam ke Iss tamashey ko
Mataam Chathi pe nahee Inkey Chehro aur Jism pe diye jaengay

think
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Re: Malikul Ashtar

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Unread post by think » Sun Jul 20, 2014 12:03 pm

a few doctors in Houston are taken for a royal ride by this clown chuster. I find no words to describe this lunatic. Just cannot understand how in the good old u. s of A such nonsense goes on by some clown imported from India in the name of royal family.

think
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Re: Malikul Ashtar

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Unread post by think » Sun Jul 20, 2014 12:07 pm

I have said it before and will say it again no matter how many times. Whatever it takes to drill into the hard hats of a few abdes in Houston "this guy malik ul uster is a fraud".

Nietzsche
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Re: Malikul Ashtar

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Unread post by Nietzsche » Mon Jul 21, 2014 1:49 am

That's funny... the "security" consists of a pair of rotund old fools... they probably think that they look pretty impressive sitting behind him with the suit on