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humanbeing
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Re: Malikul Ashtar

#361

Unread post by humanbeing » Thu Aug 27, 2015 3:09 am

Why do these guys need to place a hanky to hold hands .. or sit on sujnee or drape any of thier seating with layers of clothings etc .. i mean .. apart from pompous arrogance .. is there any religious fulfillment or requirements to do so.



y-kuc
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#362

Unread post by y-kuc » Thu Aug 27, 2015 4:59 am

humanbeing wrote:Why do these guys need to place a hanky to hold hands .. or sit on sujnee or drape any of thier seating with layers of clothings etc .. i mean .. apart from pompous arrogance .. is there any religious fulfillment or requirements to do so.
I have heard hushed conversations that these things are done to keep the regular non in-bred people/things from getting napaak from their touch. :lol: :P



dawedaar
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#363

Unread post by dawedaar » Thu Aug 27, 2015 12:08 pm

Few ambiguities in the message below:

Maula no jungle si phone aayo - Maula jungle ma rehva chala gaya ?
80000 tayyari thai jaase - does it mean $80,000? That's a very paltry figure. They would be expecting to make a few millions easily from US market.


Aaje Shz Malik Bs waaz in Surat. Said Ashara Houston maaj che sagla tayyari kari law. Moula ye nathi farmayu magar me kaw chu. Moula ne araz kidi ke maru ghar bhi che ane masjid ma bhi ghar che aap ne Jaha rehwu hoi zabardasti nathi magar Ashara ni zabardasti che. Moula no jungle si phone aayo ke 80,000 tayyari thai jaase? Me araz kidi moula aap farmawso to thai jaase

Forwarded as received!

Mubarak in advance to Houston



disillusioned
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#364

Unread post by disillusioned » Thu Aug 27, 2015 1:35 pm

dawedaar wrote:Few ambiguities in the message below:

Maula no jungle si phone aayo - Maula jungle ma rehva chala gaya ?
80000 tayyari thai jaase - does it mean $80,000? That's a very paltry figure. They would be expecting to make a few millions easily from US market.


Aaje Shz Malik Bs waaz in Surat. Said Ashara Houston maaj che sagla tayyari kari law. Moula ye nathi farmayu magar me kaw chu. Moula ne araz kidi ke maru ghar bhi che ane masjid ma bhi ghar che aap ne Jaha rehwu hoi zabardasti nathi magar Ashara ni zabardasti che. Moula no jungle si phone aayo ke 80,000 tayyari thai jaase? Me araz kidi moula aap farmawso to thai jaase

Forwarded as received!

Mubarak in advance to Houston

Probably refers to 80,000 people



dawedaar
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#365

Unread post by dawedaar » Fri Aug 28, 2015 1:06 pm

I know, my post was more sarcastic!
disillusioned wrote:
dawedaar wrote:Few ambiguities in the message below:

Maula no jungle si phone aayo - Maula jungle ma rehva chala gaya ?
80000 tayyari thai jaase - does it mean $80,000? That's a very paltry figure. They would be expecting to make a few millions easily from US market.


Aaje Shz Malik Bs waaz in Surat. Said Ashara Houston maaj che sagla tayyari kari law. Moula ye nathi farmayu magar me kaw chu. Moula ne araz kidi ke maru ghar bhi che ane masjid ma bhi ghar che aap ne Jaha rehwu hoi zabardasti nathi magar Ashara ni zabardasti che. Moula no jungle si phone aayo ke 80,000 tayyari thai jaase? Me araz kidi moula aap farmawso to thai jaase

Forwarded as received!

Mubarak in advance to Houston

Probably refers to 80,000 people



Mazakyo
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#366

Unread post by Mazakyo » Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:09 pm

dawedaar wrote:Few ambiguities in the message below:

Maula no jungle si phone aayo - Maula jungle ma rehva chala gaya ?
80000 tayyari thai jaase - does it mean $80,000? That's a very paltry figure. They would be expecting to make a few millions easily from US market.


Aaje Shz Malik Bs waaz in Surat. Said Ashara Houston maaj che sagla tayyari kari law. Moula ye nathi farmayu magar me kaw chu. Moula ne araz kidi ke maru ghar bhi che ane masjid ma bhi ghar che aap ne Jaha rehwu hoi zabardasti nathi magar Ashara ni zabardasti che. Moula no jungle si phone aayo ke 80,000 tayyari thai jaase? Me araz kidi moula aap farmawso to thai jaase

Forwarded as received!

Mubarak in advance to Houston

Houston we have a problem !!



dawedaar
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#367

Unread post by dawedaar » Fri Aug 28, 2015 5:44 pm

lol :D :lol:
Mazakyo wrote:
dawedaar wrote:Few ambiguities in the message below:

Maula no jungle si phone aayo - Maula jungle ma rehva chala gaya ?
80000 tayyari thai jaase - does it mean $80,000? That's a very paltry figure. They would be expecting to make a few millions easily from US market.


Aaje Shz Malik Bs waaz in Surat. Said Ashara Houston maaj che sagla tayyari kari law. Moula ye nathi farmayu magar me kaw chu. Moula ne araz kidi ke maru ghar bhi che ane masjid ma bhi ghar che aap ne Jaha rehwu hoi zabardasti nathi magar Ashara ni zabardasti che. Moula no jungle si phone aayo ke 80,000 tayyari thai jaase? Me araz kidi moula aap farmawso to thai jaase

Forwarded as received!

Mubarak in advance to Houston

Houston we have a problem !!



Akhtiar Wahid
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#368

Unread post by Akhtiar Wahid » Mon Aug 31, 2015 6:49 am

Muffy Morela is none other than jungle boy Mawgli, he was born among Hyenas and also acts like one.

Jungle Jungle baat chali hain patah chala hain, pagdi pehen ke fool khila hain fool khila hain!

Baloo - Qaid Johar
Snake - Badr-ul-jamali, kauser ali etc SYN progeny
Leopard - Malik ul Ashter



dawedaar
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#369

Unread post by dawedaar » Thu Sep 10, 2015 4:18 pm

It is often discussed that there is not so much camaraderie between Qaid Johar bs (QJ) and Malekul Ashtar bs (MA). This was the reason why MA didn't go to California this year and stay put in Houston when SMS was in US and when abdes and amtes from across the US and Canada flocked to California in large numbers. MA usually rushes to India or any other place at drop of a hat for SMS events and waez and in that case, he didn't even travel 4 hours to California!

Any details on this?



ghulam muhammed
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#370

Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Sep 10, 2015 4:55 pm

dawedaar wrote:It is often discussed that there is not so much camaraderie between Qaid Johar bs (QJ) and Malekul Ashtar bs (MA). This was the reason why MA didn't go to California this year and stay put in Houston when SMS was in US and when abdes and amtes from across the US and Canada flocked to California in large numbers. MA usually rushes to India or any other place at drop of a hat for SMS events and waez and in that case, he didn't even travel 4 hours to California!

Any details on this?
Its like a Bollywood blockbuster..... Pehle "Chacha Bhatija" and now "Bhai Bhai" :lol:



dawedaar
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#371

Unread post by dawedaar » Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:21 pm

Amirul hajj Shz Malik ul Ashter Bs DM wada programme Kandivali
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ghulam muhammed
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#372

Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:48 pm

dawedaar wrote:Amirul hajj Shz Malik ul Ashter Bs DM wada programme Kandivali
Looks more like Batata Wada programme :lol:



zinger
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#373

Unread post by zinger » Thu Sep 10, 2015 11:53 pm

dawedaar wrote:Amirul hajj Shz Malik ul Ashter Bs DM wada programme Kandivali
wada3.jpg
wada2.jpg
wada1.jpg

i dont think this is anywhere in kandivali. its an auditorium. i think it might have been somewhere else. we did not hear of it



dawedaar
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#374

Unread post by dawedaar » Thu Sep 10, 2015 11:55 pm

It is as per zeninfosys... so Zinger, u r based in Kandivali?
zinger wrote:
dawedaar wrote:Amirul hajj Shz Malik ul Ashter Bs DM wada programme Kandivali
wada3.jpg
wada2.jpg
wada1.jpg

i dont think this is anywhere in kandivali. its an auditorium. i think it might have been somewhere else. we did not hear of it



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#375

Unread post by true_bohra » Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:28 am

Akhtiar Wahid wrote:Muffy Morela is none other than jungle boy Mawgli, he was born among Hyenas and also acts like one.

Jungle Jungle baat chali hain patah chala hain, pagdi pehen ke fool khila hain fool khila hain!

Baloo - Qaid Johar
Snake - Badr-ul-jamali, kauser ali etc SYN progeny
Leopard - Malik ul Ashter
its better you live in this same world



ghulam muhammed
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#376

Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:03 pm

zinger wrote:
dawedaar wrote:Amirul hajj Shz Malik ul Ashter Bs DM wada programme Kandivali
wada3.jpg
wada2.jpg
wada1.jpg

i dont think this is anywhere in kandivali. its an auditorium. i think it might have been somewhere else. we did not hear of it
Amirul hajj Shz Malik ul Ashter Bs DM wada programme Kandivali

23rd Zilqad, 1436
Location: MH, India, Kandivali, Kandivali

Seminar on occaission of Syedna Taher Saifuddin RA 132nd milad mubarak apni hayat taiyyeba mutalliq audio video presentation.700 mumenin mumenat of kandivali bhayender mira road & boriveli shamil thaya hata ye mawqe per Amirul hajj Shz Malik ul Ashter Bs DM tashrief lawi karam ane ahsan farmu ane apne saglaye haj ni safar ni tahani paish kari.

Courtesy : Zeninfosys.



zinger
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#377

Unread post by zinger » Mon Sep 14, 2015 1:40 am

dawedaar wrote:It is as per zeninfosys... so Zinger, u r based in Kandivali?

no, but i have friends there



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#378

Unread post by allbird » Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:11 am

ghulam muhammed wrote:LIKE HIS BROTHER MUFFY, EVEN MALIK UL CHUSTER IS DOING WHIRLWIND TOURS.... FROM HOUSTON TO KANDIVLI TO MADHYA PRADESH TO GUJARAT !! SURAT AMIL MUDER WHO HAPPENS TO BE MUFFY'S SAADUBHAI DOING HIS CHAAPLUSI BELOW ...

Shz Malik Ul Ashtar Bhai Saheb Shujauddin DM presided over Urs Waaz Majlis of Syedna Abdeal Saifuddin RA in Surat

11th Zilqad, 1436
Location: GJ, India, Surat, Masjid e Moazzam


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He is worshipped like a god. Reminds me of ganpati visurjan.

:P :P



ghulam muhammed
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#379

Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Wed Oct 07, 2015 3:54 pm

SHZ MALEKUL ASHTAR BS DM SAN ANTONIO MA ZERE TAMEER MASJID NU MUAYENO WASTE PADHARA

21st Zilhajj, 1436
Location: United States, SAN ANTONIO


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#380

Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:18 pm

Forwarded as Received :-

Many in Bhendi Bazar call Malekul Ashtar a goonda, a hooligan. Recently, his son Aliasghar was severely thrashed and jailed by Saudi Arabian police for foolishly arguing with them and disobeying orders. No Farishta came to rescue him. However, on a lawyer’s advice, Kothar forced a doctor in Saify Hospital certify that AliAsghar ibn Makekul Ashtar was crazy. On basis of lunacy, AliAsghar was set free; he was kicked out of Saudi Arabia. Saudis will never allow him to set foot on Mecca, Medina, or anywhere on Saudi soil.

Please view the video how naively Bohras on Hajj, salaam him multiple time and beg his Dua right in Mecca. Muslims of world go to hajj for begging kindness of Allah; Bohras beg kindness of Malekul Ashtar who does not hold any Dawat position such as Mazun or Mukasir. In video, Malekul Ashtar is seen thrashing Bohras on their backs probably saying “You fool”. Malekul Ashtar calls himself Shahzada Aali Waqar. Actually, it should be Aali Wakhar (a warehouse of corruption)

Please click the link and YouTube Video. https://youtu.be/QC-zBBbodi0 Pease view how each is pushed out once Salam is received.



dawedaar
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#381

Unread post by dawedaar » Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:29 pm

When did Malekul Ashtar bs adopt Aliasghar from QJ? :roll:
ghulam muhammed wrote:Forwarded as Received :-

Many in Bhendi Bazar call Malekul Ashtar a goonda, a hooligan. Recently, his son Aliasghar was severely thrashed and jailed by Saudi Arabian police for foolishly arguing with them and disobeying orders. No Farishta came to rescue him. However, on a lawyer’s advice, Kothar forced a doctor in Saify Hospital certify that AliAsghar ibn Makekul Ashtar was crazy. On basis of lunacy, AliAsghar was set free; he was kicked out of Saudi Arabia. Saudis will never allow him to set foot on Mecca, Medina, or anywhere on Saudi soil.

Please view the video how naively Bohras on Hajj, salaam him multiple time and beg his Dua right in Mecca. Muslims of world go to hajj for begging kindness of Allah; Bohras beg kindness of Malekul Ashtar who does not hold any Dawat position such as Mazun or Mukasir. In video, Malekul Ashtar is seen thrashing Bohras on their backs probably saying “You fool”. Malekul Ashtar calls himself Shahzada Aali Waqar. Actually, it should be Aali Wakhar (a warehouse of corruption)

Please click the link and YouTube Video. https://youtu.be/QC-zBBbodi0 Pease view how each is pushed out once Salam is received.



canadian
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#382

Unread post by canadian » Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:50 pm

ghulam muhammed wrote:Forwarded as Received :-

Please click the link and YouTube Video. https://youtu.be/QC-zBBbodi0 Pease view how each is pushed out once Salam is received.
^^^

OMG! How humiliating! What has become of our people, that we pay these "mullas" to be mistreated like this? I am so ashamed. If my non-bohri friends see such scenes, what will they think of me and my so-called shia sect of Islam!!
What happened to those proud words we used to utter, "Islam's greatness is that when we pray together, we stand shoulder to shoulder in front of Allah, which signifies that we are all equal- there is no one above us nor below us."?

When will we have courage to say to these dais and their henchmen, "Go to hell, we are not your slaves and you are in no way superior to us"?



ghulam muhammed
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#383

Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Wed Oct 07, 2015 5:42 pm

dawedaar wrote:When did Malekul Ashtar bs adopt Aliasghar from QJ?
I didnt notice the faux pass in the message, thanks for pointing out. Actually I saw the video of Ashter and posted it here as it was relevant to the thread.



Al-Noor
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#384

Unread post by Al-Noor » Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:58 am

Just watched the video...so for a abde blessings comes as a slap from shezada ROFLLL



zinger
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#385

Unread post by zinger » Sun Oct 11, 2015 11:49 pm

brings to mind 2 interesting points:

1. There is an Amma, a South Indian God woman who blesses her followers with hugs, the kind a mother gives to her child. and then there is some other Godman who blesses his devotees by kicking them (i forget who this was, i remember reading about him or seeing him some years back). So is Malek ul Ashthar bhai saab doing the same thing? replacing hugs and kicks with back slaps?

2. While the above, i couldnt care less, maybe its his style, what i did find truly disgusting is how casually and disdainfully he is flicking aside the covers. the decent thing to do could be to give it in the hand of the chamcha sitting next to him, thus maintaining the dignity of the money, the act of gifting and the feelings of the giver but no..... this is a person who has NEVER WORKED A DAY IN HIS LIFE AND THUS HAS NO IDEA OF THE VALUE OF MONEY



think_for_yourself
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#386

Unread post by think_for_yourself » Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:40 am

zinger wrote:brings to mind 2 interesting points:

1. There is an Amma, a South Indian God woman who blesses her followers with hugs, the kind a mother gives to her child. and then there is some other Godman who blesses his devotees by kicking them (i forget who this was, i remember reading about him or seeing him some years back). So is Malek ul Ashthar bhai saab doing the same thing? replacing hugs and kicks with back slaps?

2. While the above, i couldnt care less, maybe its his style, what i did find truly disgusting is how casually and disdainfully he is flicking aside the covers. the decent thing to do could be to give it in the hand of the chamcha sitting next to him, thus maintaining the dignity of the money, the act of gifting and the feelings of the giver but no..... this is a person who has NEVER WORKED A DAY IN HIS LIFE AND THUS HAS NO IDEA OF THE VALUE OF MONEY
I did a ziyafat for this man when he was SED during Burhanuddin Aqa's lifetime. He was most concerned about what he would be paid personally vs. what we'd pay into dawat's treasury. We ended up paying him 3 times what we paid to dawat. As a gesture of his (in)gratitude, he hit our child hard on the forehead, which was his style then. He did not share one bit of ilm with us nor enlighten us in anyway with his manners or actions during his visit. He asked us repeatedly if we had a pool in our backyard which shows an unhealthy preoccupation with worldly possessions.

I know now that I deserved every bit of what I got (which is: letting a religious con-artist walk out of my house with thousands of my dollars!) because I invited this man into my house when I had the choice not to. These poor blokes bending and supplicating to him, deserve every bit of what they are getting.



humanbeing
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#387

Unread post by humanbeing » Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:47 am

zinger wrote:2. While the above, i couldnt care less, maybe its his style, what i did find truly disgusting is how casually and disdainfully he is flicking aside the covers. the decent thing to do could be to give it in the hand of the chamcha sitting next to him, thus maintaining the dignity of the money, the act of gifting and the feelings of the giver but no..... this is a person who has NEVER WORKED A DAY IN HIS LIFE AND THUS HAS NO IDEA OF THE VALUE OF MONEY
From top to bottom, muffay maula to amil are arrogant in handling people. they can only smile and flatter politically strong people. whereas even richest financially strong abde has to bow, crawl, squeeze and get thrown out. it is their idea (nizaam) of crowd management.

just wonder, amazingly wonder in amusement. these abdes cannot see with thier eyes wide open the deception, greed and arrogant attitude of these mullahs. they laugh at other babaas, sadhoos and maulvies who appear on TV reports of their deception and fake miracles .. yet cannot see through the similar cheat that these kothari thugs put up .. wat a maya jaal !



ghulam muhammed
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#388

Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Oct 16, 2015 4:22 pm

Ammerul Haj Malekul Ashtar doing phenka phenk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02Lpj7uUqtA



dawedaar
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#389

Unread post by dawedaar » Mon Oct 26, 2015 1:33 pm

HB, in Houston, I also saw the hanky even though MA was doing talakki (lisan ud dawat jargon for holding hands) of SMS. So, it is quite clear now that it's not just for common abdes to hold hankies, but even his own brother holds hanky while holding his hands!
humanbeing wrote:Why do these guys need to place a hanky to hold hands .. or sit on sujnee or drape any of thier seating with layers of clothings etc .. i mean .. apart from pompous arrogance .. is there any religious fulfillment or requirements to do so.



humanbeing
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#390

Unread post by humanbeing » Tue Oct 27, 2015 7:25 am

hmm .. ok .. just another fancy ritual to show how holier-than-thou they are ... dramabazi !