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JC
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Re: Malikul Ashtar

#391

Unread post by JC » Tue Oct 27, 2015 7:34 pm

After a very spiritually and physically tiring, yet handsomely rewarding (monetarily) Ashara Tamasha, The Holy Brother Ushter decided to go see a movie in Houston.

On 11 Moharram he arrived at Cineplex Cinemas in Houston with a herd of Abdes and proceeded to enter the complex. Abdes were doing Matam on the niyat of Al-Hayy Al-Muqaddas singing intermittently Ghanu Jeevo ….. Ushter proceeded with herd and entered; he rolled his eyes as if he was ‘inspecting’ the complex (old habits die hard!) and ordered Abdes to do more Matam for sawab and barakat ……………. Two Abdes then proceeded to ticket counter to buy tickets for Ushter. With tickets they did sajadat-us-shukur to Ushter and did ‘arzi’ of tickets to him. Dewan(a) of Ushter then ordered the herd that as per the Nehaj of Dawat, Ushter be salaamed with Silat, Najwa and Nazrul-Maqam alongwith fakhir Maqadam Na Cover. All the Abdes obliged ………….. now they were even doing ‘purjosh’ matam (why, anybody’s guess!!).

Ushter then proceeded, with herd, towards the theatre. On his way he told his Dewan(a) something …… so Dewan(a) speaks that Mauala has to do Wazu. They proceeded towards Men’s Room, Ushter with Dewan(a) and one other chumcha enters, rest wait outside and continued the Matam on the neyat of ‘safe passage’.

Ushter comes out and all proceed towards the theatre, luckily the theatre number is 5, Ushter did ‘rowa jayvo mauo’ and said ‘Aa tuo 5 no udad chay, ajab emay hikmat chay, Ek ek Dai nu ehsan chay’ ………….he then ordered some more Matam on the neyat of Muffy Mauala, and that movie be good. And finally entered.

After the movie Ushter comes out, Abdes welcome him wih Matam and ‘hunswa jayvo mauo’. They all then proceeded out towards the parking lot. In parking lot, Ushter addresses that ‘Ek ek Dai nu ehsan chay, shukr chay, kay aajay avee achi filmo bane rahee chay ………. Aa Hollywood anay Bollywood Mauala Na wajood thaki chay ……… Film Banavo, Film Utarvo anay Film Deekhavo Mauala Na Moejeza chay …….. Nahee tuo Koni taqat kay film chalaway …!!!! Abdes cried and did Matam.

In the end Ushter sat in his car and Abdes sang Wazaefuna. Ushter left and Abdes dispersed jamanfully.



dawedaar
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#392

Unread post by dawedaar » Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:11 am

List of favourite films of Malik bhaisaheb
Golmaal
Khosla ka Ghosla (I guess this suits QJ better as this movie based on Land sharks/mafias)
Brothers Bloom (I guess, this suits them perfectly!)
Ocean's Eleven/12/13 (Compare with Burhanuddin's Seven)
Shri 420
Chachi 420
Catch me if you can
Special 26
Heist
Duplicity

JC wrote: After the movie Ushter comes out, Abdes welcome him wih Matam and ‘hunswa jayvo mauo’. They all then proceeded out towards the parking lot. In parking lot, Ushter addresses that ‘Ek ek Dai nu ehsan chay, shukr chay, kay aajay avee achi filmo bane rahee chay ………. Aa Hollywood anay Bollywood Mauala Na wajood thaki chay ……… Film Banavo, Film Utarvo anay Film Deekhavo Mauala Na Moejeza chay …….. Nahee tuo Koni taqat kay film chalaway …!!!! Abdes cried and did Matam.

In the end Ushter sat in his car and Abdes sang Wazaefuna. Ushter left and Abdes dispersed jamanfully.



dawedaar
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#393

Unread post by dawedaar » Mon Nov 02, 2015 4:54 pm

Message from Shehzada Saheb's Office.

Salaam e Jameel,

Aawti kaale 23mi Raate Syedi Hasanfeer Shaheed Q.A na URS Mubarak ni Masjlis ma Huzur e Alaa TUS Mohammedi Masjid Houston ma tashreef laawse.
Sagla Mumineen Majlis ni barakat lewa Houston hazir thai.

Majlis baad Al Syed ul Ajal wal Homam ul Mubajjal Shehzada Aali Waqaar Syedi Malik ul Ashtar BS ni Ziyafat ma tashreef laawse.

Dallas na har eik Mumineen mardo bairo bachao ane mehmano ne Shehzada Saheb D.M ni Ziyafat ma Ma al Ekraam Izan che.

Sagla Mumineen Ziyafat ma shamil thai ane jaman jami ne jaai.

Wassalaam
Abde Syedna TUS
Amil Dallas.


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think
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#394

Unread post by think » Wed Nov 04, 2015 11:54 am

how can a dai give ziafat. Who will he give his wajebaat to?
In days gone by; if a wealthy person had a lot of zakaat to give to the dai , then in that case he would invite the dai for food at his place and offer the amount to him. This was the whole intent and that is why it was called ziafat. The dai or the people who accept the zakaat cannot give ziafat . yes they can hold a dinner and feed the mumineen.
The word ziafat today is completely misconstrued.



SBM
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#395

Unread post by SBM » Wed Nov 04, 2015 12:28 pm

^
Br Think
I think it say NI Ziyarat chey it does not say TARAF si ziyafat chey
Do you see the differrence?



dawedaar
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#396

Unread post by dawedaar » Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:03 pm

New Scam term - Dawat na khalda

Baad al Salaam el Jameel,

Huzur Alaa TUS ye karam ane ehsaan farmawi Al Syed ul Ajal Wal Homam ul Mubajjal Shehzada Aali Waqaar Syedi Malik ul Ashtar Bhaisaheb Shujauddin Saheb D.M ne Saheb Dawat banawi Dallas mokla che.Shehzada Saheb Tuesday Dallas tashreef laause ane Dawat shuru farmuse. Imam Hasan A.S ni Shahadat ni Majlis ma jalwa afroz thase.

Shehzada Saheb har eik Mumin na garhe tashreef lause. Mumineen Shehzada Saheb ne Dawat na Khalda ni raqm araz kare. Shehzada Mumineen na umoor ma nazar farmause , Irshadaat farmause ane Dua Mubarak farmause.

For more details please contact your Sector and Sub Sector Masool & Musaaid.
Mumineen will soon receive their Sector and Sub Sector allocation and their Masool and Musaaid information by email from the Jamaat.


Abeed e Syedna TUS

Anjuman e Najmi Dallas Jamaat



dawedaar
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#397

Unread post by dawedaar » Tue Dec 08, 2015 4:35 pm

Schedule for MA's 2 week Vasooli extravaganza/paid vacation as Saheb e dawat.

Activities include,
1. Going to people's homes uninvited (You need special talent to pull such a thing in US unless u r police/fbi)... Oh sorry, but they are thieves so they can go uninvited.

2. Haath safai on Najwa or 'Dawat na khalda ni rakam' as they have defined this scam!

3. Eat 1-2 morsels of food at each house even though each hosts might have prepared a 20 course meal

4. Recite standard 'Khuda ghani barakat aape... blah blah..' joomla

5. Hop to next bakra.. er Abde's house for that person's zabihat and repeat step 2-5 till all bakras in that area have been slaughtered or castrated!
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dawedaar
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#398

Unread post by dawedaar » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:35 pm

Jamaat defending their Saheb e dawat Vasooli scam in an email from them as below

The word "Dawat" (دعوة) holds a plethora of meanings, but they all stem from one basic notion: to call upon.

Allah Taala sends his Awliya Kiram AS (Anbiya Kiraam AS, Aimmat Tahereen AS, Duat Mutlaqeen RA) to call people to najaat and forgiveness; this call is known as "Dawat" and has existed since the Universe Exist. Dawat existed even before the creation of Universe in Alam ul Ibdaa.

Dawat can only be done by Raza and Permission of Allah. Allah Talaa states in Quran (وداعيا الى الله باذنه).

Just as Awliya Kiram AS have been sent by Allah Taala, similarly the Aimmat and Duaat send their Hudood Kiram for "Dawat" to wherever Mumineen have settled. For example, Rasulullah SAW sent Moulana Ali AS to Yemen for Dawat twice. Imam Mustansir AS sent three scholars to India for Dawat, and we are the fruits of their labor. Syedi Fakhruddin Shaheed QR, Syedi Abdulqadir Hakimuddin QR and other Hudood Kiram QR have all been sent by the Moula of their time to visit the towns of Mumineen and perform various social and deeni duties, such as the collection of vaajebaat, settling disputes, and answering any questions regarding the Shariah. Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin RA also sent Hudood Kiram QR for Dawat, and followed his Ancestors Duaat Kiraam R.A who institutionalized the Nizaam of "Khalda" (means account) to facilitate the collection of vaajebaat and other Huqooq like Nazrul Muqaam A.S Haqq ul Nafs Kaffarat ect. The Khalda was maintained in every Jamaat like Sabeel ect are maintained and was only referred whenever Saheb e Dawat was deputed

After the Wafaat of Al Hayyul Muqaddas Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin R.A in 1435 H his Mansoos and Qaim Maqam Dai al Zaman Syedna wa Maula na Abu Jafer ul Sadiq Aali Qadr Mufaddad Saifuddin TUS after his succession in the Rutba of Dawat deputed Saheb Dawat in Bilaad Imaniyah in Alam e Imaan to conduct the Dawat amongst Mumineen.

However, first and foremost, the objective of the Dawat is to send barakat (in the form of Moula's salaam (greetings)) through the "Saheb-e-Dawat" and bring Mumineen closer to Aqa Moula TUS --- thus carrying out the call to najaat and forgiveness.

It is to this end that Aqa Moula TUS has sent Shehzada Malikul Ashtar Bhaisaheb Shujauddin Saheb DM to our city. As a Saheb-e-Dawat, he comes in a unique capacity unlike that of his other visits. As a Saheb-e-Dawat, he is a deputy of Moula TUS himself and the opportunities for khidmat are thus invaluable. By bringing him into our homes, we receive the barakat of Moula's salaam and his khushi - barakat that will aid us in all aspects of our life.

Mumineen are requested to approach Masools of their respective sectors to schedule Saheb e Dawat Vist in thier Sector Area in proper Logistics so more visits are done in less time.

May Allah Taala help us to do talaqqi (receive/follow through) of this azeem nemat, and may he grant our Moula Syedna Abu Jafar al-Sadiq Aali Qadr Mufaddal Saifuddin TUS a long and healthy life till the day of Qiyamat.


Ameen.
--
Abeed e Syedna TUS
Anjuman e Najmi Dallas Jamaat
1324 South Nursery Road
Irving Texas 75060
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#399

Unread post by UnhappyBohra » Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:51 pm

I am curious what the consequence would be if someone simply did not stay home or "forgot" that it was their appointed time, or boldly refused to allow the napak scumbag into their pak home.... Just sayin'



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#400

Unread post by confusedlady123 » Wed Dec 09, 2015 7:33 am

If you forget his arrival toh su su thai jaay!!
Kai na thaai....he is a fly (makkhi) even if you shoo him away he will come back to take his booty



dawedaar
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#401

Unread post by dawedaar » Wed Dec 09, 2015 1:08 pm

The lady of the house won't allow the man of the house to do that. Also if a family has children going to madrassah, then they are done in by default. Amtes are totally blind and will do as the jamaat pleases. Ladies and children are the collateral that the jamaat uses pretty cunningly! The only difference is whereas in finance world, banks take collateral and give money, in abde world, both the money and collateral are given by the same party!
UnhappyBohra wrote:I am curious what the consequence would be if someone simply did not stay home or "forgot" that it was their appointed time, or boldly refused to allow the napak scumbag into their pak home.... Just sayin'



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#402

Unread post by allbird » Tue Dec 15, 2015 7:03 am

dawedaar wrote:The lady of the house won't allow the man of the house to do that. Also if a family has children going to madrassah, then they are done in by default. Amtes are totally blind and will do as the jamaat pleases. Ladies and children are the collateral that the jamaat uses pretty cunningly! The only difference is whereas in finance world, banks take collateral and give money, in abde world, both the money and collateral are given by the same party!
UnhappyBohra wrote:I am curious what the consequence would be if someone simply did not stay home or "forgot" that it was their appointed time, or boldly refused to allow the napak scumbag into their pak home.... Just sayin'

Yes you are right...these urchins are SNAKES in disguise.



dawedaar
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#403

Unread post by dawedaar » Mon Jan 04, 2016 7:17 pm

Circus and the Clown :lol:
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Al-Noor
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#404

Unread post by Al-Noor » Tue Jan 05, 2016 12:19 am

muffy ni dawat modi ni gov jiwi che....

substance ochu che, dhamaal ane advertisement wadhare che.



dawedaar
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#405

Unread post by dawedaar » Tue Jan 05, 2016 1:07 am

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Al-Noor wrote:muffy ni dawat modi ni gov jiwi che....

substance ochu che, dhamaal ane advertisement wadhare che.



ghulam muhammed
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#406

Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Mon Jan 11, 2016 6:35 pm

Tiffin Mojeza: 5-year-old weighs 27 Kilo. Calling a child fat is derogatory, Abdes laugh.

Tum ko pyaar aaye na aaye, “Ashtar” ko pyaar aa hii gayaa
तुमको प्यार आए न आए, “अशतर” प्यार आही गया


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmPanKj ... e=youtu.be



confusedlady123
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#407

Unread post by confusedlady123 » Wed Jan 13, 2016 12:38 am

Why are they calling Malikul Asthar "Moula" :shock:



dawedaar
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#408

Unread post by dawedaar » Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:09 am

This is a duplicate post... I had posted this few days ago! Check 3-4 posts above!
ghulam muhammed wrote:Tiffin Mojeza: 5-year-old weighs 27 Kilo. Calling a child fat is derogatory, Abdes laugh.

Tum ko pyaar aaye na aaye, “Ashtar” ko pyaar aa hii gayaa
तुमको प्यार आए न आए, “अशतर” प्यार आही गया


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmPanKj ... e=youtu.be



kimanumanu
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#409

Unread post by kimanumanu » Wed Jan 13, 2016 6:26 pm

confusedlady123 wrote:Why are they calling Malikul Asthar "Moula" :shock:
Must be the "hidden" Mazoon/Mukassir something or other! With SMS raj you never know who is real Mazoon/Mukassir and who is fake. They set the precedent with Syedna Burhanuddin RA's Mazoon.



dawedaar
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#410

Unread post by dawedaar » Wed Jan 13, 2016 6:39 pm

Malikul Ashtar bs holds a lot of clout. He is famous for his sweet talk and is considered the most friendly among the abdes which they feel great about (Their previous and current Maula's blood sweet talks with them which is quite rare given the arrogance wide spread in the members of the Royal family & their chamchas!)
kimanumanu wrote:
confusedlady123 wrote:Why are they calling Malikul Asthar "Moula" :shock:
Must be the "hidden" Mazoon/Mukassir something or other! With SMS raj you never know who is real Mazoon/Mukassir and who is fake. They set the precedent with Syedna Burhanuddin RA's Mazoon.



dawedaar
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#411

Unread post by dawedaar » Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:49 am

Malekul Ashtar bhai saheb came to Barvala (Gujarat) on 9th Feb night.
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ajamali
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#412

Unread post by ajamali » Fri Feb 12, 2016 5:34 pm

There used to be heavy objection to us calling the mazoon as "moula." I remember once referring to him as "Mazoon Moula" to our local aamil and he immediately scolded me and said that one should only refer to Aqa Moula as "Moula." I was a little taken aback at his anger.

Now it appears that "Moula" is the Mufaddali code-word for douchebag. Every douchebag is being called "Moula."
dawedaar wrote:Malikul Ashtar bs holds a lot of clout. He is famous for his sweet talk and is considered the most friendly among the abdes which they feel great about (Their previous and current Maula's blood sweet talks with them which is quite rare given the arrogance wide spread in the members of the Royal family & their chamchas!)
kimanumanu wrote:
Must be the "hidden" Mazoon/Mukassir something or other! With SMS raj you never know who is real Mazoon/Mukassir and who is fake. They set the precedent with Syedna Burhanuddin RA's Mazoon.



husena
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#413

Unread post by husena » Fri Feb 12, 2016 9:33 pm

Chandu Khabri informs that Malekul Ashtar bs owns 150+ houses/properties in Houston area!



dawedaar
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#414

Unread post by dawedaar » Sun Feb 14, 2016 8:00 am

Whoa.. people struggle their entire lives to own a decent home, and this scumbag owns multiple properties just in Houston without even a day's hard work... He has loads of properties & business interests worth millions in India as well across several cities... Why is Allah so unjust?
husena wrote:Chandu Khabri informs that Malekul Ashtar bs owns 150+ houses/properties in Houston area!



Al-Noor
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#415

Unread post by Al-Noor » Sun Feb 14, 2016 9:03 am

Why is Allah so unjust?
Allah is never unjust, these people are aajmaish for people to see the truth....As Quran says Allah keeps few people in this world as an ajmaaish for momeenin to recognize what is right and what is wrong.



Al-Noor
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#416

Unread post by Al-Noor » Sun Feb 14, 2016 9:19 am

why ashtar always carries this Rabbit looking guy with him? :lol:
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husena
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#417

Unread post by husena » Sun Feb 14, 2016 10:40 am

Don't underestimate that rabbit looking guy.. He is Shk Qutbuddin, originally a no man from Kandivali, Mumbai and at present right hand man of MA and Number 1 thug. He was a lukkha doing odd jobs before coming under MA's radar. He rose quickly among the ranks to become the handy man of MA who is reported to manage all his finances. This rabbit is himself worth several tens of crores and owns a lot of properties in Kandivali itself. His cut in ziyafats is known to be 10% of MA according to sources. He is one of the most arrogant, rude and greedy person one can ever come across.

One instance proves how important & filthy little scumbag is this rabbit looking guy... Once in Houston, an abde Shaikh gave Qutbuddin $1 in a cover on not an important occasion. This guy is known to open covers in front of you & check. When he saw that he has been given only a $1, he became furious and complained to MA. Now the matter went so far that the abde Shaikh had to maafi maangofy from Qutbuddin otherwise MA who is almost a Maula to Houston abdes wouldn't entertain that particular Shaikh!

Al-Noor wrote:why ashtar always carries this Rabbit looking guy with him? :lol:



Al-Noor
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#418

Unread post by Al-Noor » Sun Feb 14, 2016 12:42 pm

He was a lukkha doing odd jobs before coming under MA's radar
I have notice some thing, since muffy acquired dawat office all lukkahs and mafatiyas have sudenly become right hand of dawat, and all good and authentic people are sitting at home, commenting on forums and delivering waez online. :lol:



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#419

Unread post by Crater Lake » Sun Feb 14, 2016 12:48 pm

Al-Noor wrote:
He was a lukkha doing odd jobs before coming under MA's radar
I have notice some thing, since muffy acquired dawat office all lukkahs and mafatiyas have sudenly become right hand of dawat, and all good and authentic people are sitting at home, commenting on forums and delivering waez online. :lol:
Please don't say anything good about people delivering waaz online. Because you also abuse SKQ in your posts. There is a specific word in the Quran for people like you. And it is not a very good word.



Al-Noor
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#420

Unread post by Al-Noor » Sun Feb 14, 2016 12:50 pm

Crater Lake wrote:
Al-Noor wrote:
I have notice some thing, since muffy acquired dawat office all lukkahs and mafatiyas have sudenly become right hand of dawat, and all good and authentic people are sitting at home, commenting on forums and delivering waez online. :lol:
Please don't say anything good about people delivering waaz online. Because you also abuse SKQ in your posts. There is a specific word in the Quran for people like you. And it is not a very good word.
it was never about SKQ, I dont follow him, I saw many momeenin making you tube videos and spreading it, thats what I was talking about.

btw that word fits more to SKQ because he kept quite for a long time and now ship is sailed. he still can amend it by declaring himself dai nizaam and giving away kul mukhtari on dawat and appoint panel of intellectuals who can elect leaders for every 5 years time span. no more one family rule needed.

infact I am hoping SKQ is under planning for this because he has not appointed any mazzon mukasir yet, lets see which side camel sits.

how come Imam us zamaan(A) is not able to find any other person from last 400 years and he is giving his RAZA to one family? doesnt this surprise any one here?