"This site is haram"....as Quoted by Shezaadas and Kothar

[Akhtiar Wahid]

Why DB youngsters are avoided to view these kind of open forum websites.......when its not that harmful as it seems.....i don't think any one can go out of track after viewing this website.....i think its the best source of information!

[Aarif]

This only means that they have started taking us seriously. This is bad news for people like Profastian, Baskin etc who believe that no one cares about few sundry reformists writing on this forum...

[mumin]

since when did quest forknowledge and truth became halal and haram. " go seek the truth on the mountain of hira or to china if you have to".

[guy_sam2005]

This only means that they have started taking us seriously. This is bad news for people like Profastian, Baskin etc who believe that no one cares about few sundry reformists writing on this forum...

Who says u guys are not taken seriously..ofcourse u are i dunno bout others but moula(tus) takes u guys very seriously..or else why would he invite u back into fold on ashura.and if i remember moula(tus)on lailatul qadr too said..somethin like...aa moula ne muki ne kha jai che aa logo or somethin i dont remember the exact words...PPl like AZ.Insaaf and Gm live in their own world of fantasy hatred(Hatred based on fantasies)but there are many who know where the truth is but still not ready to accept.......

[like_minded]

but there are many who know where the truth is but still not ready to accept.......

Guy

What truth are you talking about???

I can talk about the biggest lie/fraud which Syedna commits in his waez. That is, giving guarantee of a place in heaven to his followers!!!! Now, who can beat that??? The biggest fraud on this planet!!!!!!!!!

[profastian]

but there are many who know where the truth is but still not ready to accept.......

Guy

What truth are you talking about???

I can talk about the biggest lie/fraud which Syedna commits in his waez. That is, giving guarantee of a place in heaven to his followers!!!! Now, who can beat that??? The biggest fraud on this planet!!!!!!!!!

You only think this coz you have no idea what jannat is....

[like_minded]

but there are many who know where the truth is but still not ready to accept.......

Guy

What truth are you talking about???

I can talk about the biggest lie/fraud which Syedna commits in his waez. That is, giving guarantee of a place in heaven to his followers!!!! Now, who can beat that??? The biggest fraud on this planet!!!!!!!!!

You only think this coz you have no idea what jannat is....

I am too occupied with my 'life' at present to think of an afterlife which includes jannat. These concepts are imaginary and purposely in place to fool idiots like you. It is in place mainly because it cannot be verified or proven!

If at all there is jannat, It is right here, you only have to open your eyes to see it so please make an effort.

[Akhtiar Wahid]

like-minded...there is something called belief in faith....which you are ignoring....majority of Muslim Ummah are not idiots who are following this ideology for past 1400 years....i know the world has advanced scientifically and people are getting aware of certain things chronologically.....but that doesnt mean we ignore what has been revealed by Allah...he is the supreme power and authority which none of us can deny!

[guy_sam2005]

Science is in no competetion with allah.if ther are 1000 medicines invented in a day,there are also new diseases ..................

[Aarif]

but there are many who know where the truth is but still not ready to accept

Well this applies perfectly to people like you, who have abondened the true path of Islam.

[incredible]

This only means that they have started taking us seriously. This is bad news for people like Profastian, Baskin etc who believe that no one cares about few sundry reformists writing on this forum...

Who says u guys are not taken seriously..ofcourse u are i dunno bout others but moula(tus) takes u guys very seriously..or else why would he invite u back into fold on ashura.and if i remember moula(tus)on lailatul qadr too said..somethin like...aa moula ne muki ne kha jai che aa logo or somethin i dont remember the exact words...PPl like AZ.Insaaf and Gm live in their own world of fantasy hatred(Hatred based on fantasies)but there are many who know where the truth is but still not ready to accept.......

go and read book of Allah first...then come back to debate on hell and heaven.

[like_minded]

like-minded...there is something called belief in faith....which you are ignoring....majority of Muslim Ummah are not idiots who are following this ideology for past 1400 years....i know the world has advanced scientifically and people are getting aware of certain things chronologically.....but that doesnt mean we ignore what has been revealed by Allah...he is the supreme power and authority which none of us can deny!

Dear Akhtiar

Self-belief is the supreme virtue, Faith in your own-self is far more superior than anything else.

People who are fearful, insecure or greedy very much need something to believe in which gives them a false sense of security, in reality they are fooling themselves.

About an after-life, jannat etc etc... It is simply impossible to get to the bottom of it!! As far as I am concerned... I don't know and I don't care! Not worth contemplating on something which does not exist and people who claim to know about it... are lying through their noses!!

[Al-Muizz]

like-minded...there is something called belief in faith....which you are ignoring....majority of Muslim Ummah are not idiots who are following this ideology for past 1400 years....i know the world has advanced scientifically and people are getting aware of certain things chronologically.....but that doesnt mean we ignore what has been revealed by Allah...he is the supreme power and authority which none of us can deny!

Dear Akhtiar

Self-belief is the supreme virtue, Faith in your own-self is far more superior than anything else.

People who are fearful, insecure or greedy very much need something to believe in which gives them a false sense of security, in reality they are fooling themselves.

About an after-life, jannat etc etc... It is simply impossible to get to the bottom of it!! As far as I am concerned... I don't know and I don't care! Not worth contemplating on something which does not exist and people who claim to know about it... are lying through their noses!!

Boy, the level of arrogance by the progs....you'd think this genius here is a brain surgeon! "Faith in your own-self...Self-belief..." Dude, you're either extremely arrogant and rich from your daddy's money, patently stupid, or plain clueless about what life is really about. How on earth did you make it so far? On your own? No one helped your sorry arse on the way? Dude......arrogance has to have a limit. Having a God-complex like yours is plain dumb.

Then again, that's the problem with the progs...a superiority complex. Progs think they know more about religion than the Dai himself. I mean they quote Moula Ali all the time, but they don't even follow his teachings!

[SBM]

Al-Muiz
I mean they quote Moula Ali all the time, but they don't even follow his teachings!

And how about Kothar and higher ups...their life style and arrogance speaks volume about teaching of Moula Ali.....They quote Shadat of Imam Husain and his stand against a dictator to save Islam but have no problem in making Political deals to save their loot with likes Narendra Modi, Bal Thackrey and what about standing up against Zakir Nayak for his tirade against Shia...

[like_minded]

Boy, the level of arrogance by the progs....you'd think this genius here is a brain surgeon! "Faith in your own-self...Self-belief..." Dude, you're either extremely arrogant and rich from your daddy's money, patently stupid, or plain clueless about what life is really about. How on earth did you make it so far? On your own? No one helped your sorry arse on the way? Dude......arrogance has to have a limit. Having a God-complex like yours is plain dumb.

Al-muizz

I am neither arrogant nor I have my daddy's money at disposal. And yes, I am clueless of what life is really about, who isn't?? The fact is, nobody.. just nobody... not you, not me, not the syedna and his ayyash family, not the scientist... know the meaning of life... and if anyone who expresses an opinion on the subject... Is merely guessing or manipulating.

How I made it so far?? Like most people on this planet!! I am certain about one fact.... faith in the corrupt syedna has nothing to do with it.

[mumin]

do not take life seriously, no one does.