One More title Bought by the Dai's Sibling.

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One More title Bought by the Dai's Sibling.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun Feb 06, 2011 6:19 pm

It is reported that on 5th Feb 2011, Quaid Zohar, the eldest son of the current dai got a degree of DOCTORATE OF PHILOSOPHY from Chennai University. It would be interesting to have a glimpse of his research, knowledge and above all his qualifications which compelled the tamilians to 'honour' him in this manner.

It is anybodies guess as to the amount the bohras of chennai must have shelled out in order to satisfy their junior master's inflated ego. It seems that the wave in chennai is in favour of Quaid zohar who is one of the contenders for the highly lucrative post of the next dai. After all, he has inherited one of the qualities of his father i.e. to buy insignificant but decorative titles, a feet achieved by the present dai which is highly impossible for anyone to surpass. Not to forget the other basic qualification of the dai (as per the current rules) i.e. to have a vice like grip over the gullible bohras and milk them high and dry.

Jaisa Baap, Waisa Beta.

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Unread post by profastian » Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:51 am

ghulam muhammed wrote:
Jaisa Baap, Waisa Beta.
Ditto...

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Unread post by incredible » Mon Feb 07, 2011 9:43 am

I doubt if he has really written any thesis may be some hired professional wrote on his behalf :lol:


this is what happens in India. :shock:

http://www.malumaat.com/lite/akhbar/item/1719.html

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Unread post by incredible » Mon Feb 07, 2011 9:45 am

most amazing thing is he got written "shezada" on his certificate lol :)

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Unread post by incredible » Mon Feb 07, 2011 9:50 am

why would a billionair look for a certificate from some indian uni when he can easily efford and study in world best universities. :o

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Unread post by S. Insaf » Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:30 pm

when they can spend billons on renovoting Bohra masjids all over the world they can also estabilish their own universities rather than becoming vice-chancellor and otaining degrees from other universities. But it would not that profitable.

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Unread post by Biradar » Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:57 pm

From the blurred pictures it seems Dr. Shehzada Saheb Aliwaqar Saheb Qaid Johar Bhai Sahib (DM) has received a degree from the "The Open International University of Complimentary Medicine". Congratulations to all Bohras on his wonderful achievement. May he use his "complimentary medicine" skills to cure the sick among them using his newly certified skills. His father must be really proud of him.

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Unread post by accountability » Mon Feb 07, 2011 4:37 pm

Biradar you are right, this is from kazakhistan university or something.
I called university of madras, their website is http://www.unom.ac.in/contact/enquiry.html. I called the inquiry no that is

2539 9422 in chennai. I asked her, if there was a convocation on 5th feb for an honrary doctrate. she was very surprised. I was told that no doctrate has been awarded to Qaid Johar Ezzudin. I gave her the website address where it is reported. she said she is going to look into it.

GM, if you are in india, you may call yourself and find out. this is what was reported in malumaat.com

University of Madras honoured Shahzada Qaidjoher bs Ezzuddin Saheb with degree of DOCTORATE OF PHILOSOPHY

I gave them html address of malumat.com

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:08 pm

Fraudsters and liars always get caught atleast once in their lifetime, as the saying goes "Ek jhoot chhupane ke liye 100 jhoot bolne padte hai". The kothari sites claim that quaid zohar got a doctorate in philosophy from chhenai university, the photos show something else, although the people in the background look more like tamilians. There are a couple of abde chamchas too in the pictures and probably based on their identity one can atleast confirm the city from where he bought this decorative title, regarding the university or the faculty it needs a further probe.

The best part is that the name of the recipient is mentioned as "SHAHZADA Quaid Zohar BS" and not his actual name, wonder if he has the word "Shahzada" encrypted on his passport, ration card, photo ID and other government documents.

http://www.zeninfosys.net/zeninfosys/ar ... rYear=1432

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Unread post by mumin » Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:17 pm

paisa de sheikh ka title le, paisa le doctor ka title de.

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Unread post by bohra_manus » Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:31 pm

incredible wrote:I doubt if he has really written any thesis may be some hired professional wrote on his behalf :lol:


this is what happens in India. :shock:

http://www.malumaat.com/lite/akhbar/item/1719.html
Included in the the Malummat announcement is a sentence like:
Malumaat.Com Wishes Shahzada Saheb Mubarakbadi on this wonderful achievement.

Question to all Abde Syednas:
How is this an achievement for the Shahzada saheb? It is not like he studied hard, researched a subject and submitted a thesis!!!

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Unread post by accountability » Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:52 pm

This is becoming a laughing stock. If malumaat guys visit this site, they should take if off the site. A bunch of tamil people and some Qaid Bhaisaheb companion cannot make a convocation. Doctor of Literature is only granted by universities accredited by university grants commission. Convocations are never held in a hall of a hotel.
Just to please his royal holiness this exhibition was unneccessary. HIs royal holiness may not know the meaning of Ph.D.

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Unread post by Smart » Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:34 pm

The real meaning of PhD is "Pagal hoke Dekho". This shahzaada has shown it !

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Unread post by Safiuddin » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:45 pm

PhD:[/b]

Puja Hamaari Dekho

Puja hamaari Daastaan

Ponga Hamaari Doctorate

Pehle Hamaari Daris

Paisa Hamari Daawat

Pehle Hamaari Daari

Pehle Hammaam Dikhao

Peydar Hamaare Diwaan

Phir Hum Daraayenge

Phir Hamaara Dikhlaawa

Phoonk Hamaari Daaghi

Phoote Hamaare Dalaael

Par Hum Dusht

Pawaaj Hum Dono



Any more out there... .. ?


The list is endless. . . ... ..

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Unread post by SAJJAD » Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:16 am

Here we go with some more fake titles for Quaid :twisted:

Pheera Hua Deemag

Paisa Hamara Dhandha

Paiseke Ham Deewaney

Pujapath Hamara Dharam

Pahle Hamse Daro

Pahle Hamara Darshan

Pahle Ham Dhokebaz

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Unread post by like_minded » Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:24 am

Pakdo har dawoodiko

Paas hamare Dollars

Peechey hamare deewane

Pareshani hum denge

Pehle hum daaku

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Unread post by like_minded » Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:46 am

Purane hum dramebaaz

Paisa hume dikhlaiye

Puppet hamara dai

Penthouse hume dilaiye

Paidaishi hum dalle

Paas hamare danda

Pura haraamka dhanda

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Unread post by like_minded » Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:49 am

Pakdo hume deewano :wink:

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Unread post by ozmujaheed » Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:39 am

How difficult is to get a PhD certificate from a University in India ?

Sayedna in waiting Quaid Johar has already started getting doctorates before he has become a Diai, imagine once he becomes the 53rd what he will "achieve" something the order of the Afghan warloard too..

Slowly Abdes are being drip fed so they do not get surprised when he takes over..

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Sat Feb 12, 2011 2:19 pm

for all interested bohras, whether fanatic abde or reform minded, here are some references to this fake university from where the fake zaada quid johar has purchased his fake doctor of phekology degree for around 1000 $ max + some 'donations' to the committee and cost of reception followed by labrez bohri jaman. quid johnny must have figured that with the blind acceptance of the slavish abdes of any hogwash dished out, it will be easy to make them swallow this crap big time.

1.

The reference to the Open International University
of Complimentary Medicines in Sri Lanka, comes from a pdf
file on the site of the Council of Scientific and Industrial
Research in New Delhi:

"Copy of CSIR letter No. 17/66/27/94-PPS dated 18.11.1998
to all Heads of national Labs./Instts.
*Sub: D.Sc. Degree awarded by Open International University
for Complimentary Medicines, Colombo- No recognition to be
given.
I am directed to forward herewith a copy of letter No.
IOE/D/98/1381 dated 27.8.98 from Dr. S.K. Jain, Director,
Institute of Ethnobiology, C/o NBRI, Lucknow alongwith a
copy of letter dated 12.8.98 from UGC regarding nonvalidity
of D.Sc. Degree awarded by Open International University for
Complimentary Medicines, Colombo and informing that no
recognition should be given to the Degree/Diploma or any
other academic distinction conferred by this University,
for your information and record."

[...]

"Copy of letter No. F.7-3/90(FU) dated 12.8.2000 from
University Grants Commission, New Delhi to Dr. S.K. Jain,
Director, Indian Instt. of Biotechnology, Lucknow.

"The Commission is grateful to you for bringing to its
Notice about the award of Ph.D. and D.Sc. degrees by the
Open International University for Complimentary Medicines,
Colombo, Sri Lanka. Subsequently to receipt of your letter
No. IOE/D/97/1089 dt. 28.1.1998, the Commission also
received a letter from the Vice-Chairman, the Bar Council
of Gujarat informing us on the above subject. In support of
this, he has also enclosed a letter No. UGC/L/81 dt.9.2.1998
from the Chairman, UGC, Sri Lanka, stating that the Open
International University for Complimentary Medicines has
not been established or recognized as a Higher Educational
Institution/Institute, under the Universities Act. No. 16
of 1978 as amended. Therefore, any such Degree or other
academic distinction issued by this institution is not
valid in law in Sri Lanka. A copy of the letter is enclosed
for your information. The Commission is issuing a circular
to all the Universities/Deemed to be Universities/Institutes
of National Importance/IITs asking them not to give any
recognition to the Degree/Diploma or any other academic
distinction conferred by The Open International University
for Complimentary Medicines, Sri Lanka."
Much more on the highlighted Google cache page:
http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:Jy8l ... lr=lang_en

Original pdf file:
http://www.csir.res.in/compendium/new/section20.pdf

2.

from the weblink: http://www.dynamicchiropractic.com/mpac ... p?id=40596

In the article regarding Jay Holder, DC, Dr. Harrison reveals this unsettling finding:
"James D. Potter, PhD, professor and chairman of the Department of Molecular and Cellular Pharmacology at the University of Miami School of Medicine stated that (1) he had never heard of Dr. Jay Holder and (2) the University of Miami was _NOT_ doing any research with him. (Emphasis his.)
"The Sri Lanka Medical Council stated that 'the 'OIU Medical School Columbo, S.L.' listed in Dr. Holder's resume did _not_ exist (Emphasis his.)

"A colleague determined that there was an 'OUI' in Sri Lanka, but it is called Open International University for complementary medicine, and it is not an accredited medical school.' For an additional fee of $400-US, outstanding students are awarded an M.D. (which is their abbreviation for Masters Degree) or other degrees such as B.Science, or extra credentials. (Parenthetical comment his.)

"We were told that 'OIU' has additional prizes such as 'the Albert Schweitzer Award and Knighthood' (for an additional fee of $400-US)." (Parenthetical comment his.)

3.

here is one more link from wikianswers: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_open_inter ... lanka_fake

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sat Feb 12, 2011 3:56 pm

Phew.... After the hard work of acquiring all the above mentioned titles,

QAID Johar should be rechristened... TIRED Johar.

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Unread post by Maqbool » Sun Feb 13, 2011 5:51 am

Al Zulfiqar wrote:Original pdf file:
http://www.csir.res.in/compendium/new/section20.pdf

this link is not working!

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Unread post by Smart » Sun Feb 13, 2011 7:48 am

@AZ,
Amazing work, brother.

The Emperor is naked, was caught with his pants down!

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:42 am

Maqbool wrote:
Al Zulfiqar wrote:Original pdf file:
http://www.csir.res.in/compendium/new/section20.pdf

this link is not working!
maqbool, i have already copy/pasted the most relevant portions from that weblink. that weblink is from the research article itself and not derived by me.

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Unread post by 'sauga dude » Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:27 pm

Excellent work, brother Al Zulfiqar. Two thumbs up! :D :D :D

It is lies like these which will be the downfall of this kothar. What a shame that the Dai's son has to resort to such lies and deception. SHAME.

Brother Al Zulfiqar, how about you send a copy of your research to the management of Saifee Hospital who held a function to felicitate "DR" Qaid Johar. http://www.zeninfosys.net/zeninfosys/ar ... Year=1432.

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:12 pm

'sauga dude wrote:Excellent work, brother Al Zulfiqar. Two thumbs up! :D :D :D

It is lies like these which will be the downfall of this kothar. What a shame that the Dai's son has to resort to such lies and deception. SHAME.

Brother Al Zulfiqar, how about you send a copy of your research to the management of Saifee Hospital who held a function to felicitate "DR" Qaid Johar. http://www.zeninfosys.net/zeninfosys/ar ... Year=1432.
and what good will it do? the management of saifee hospital is a puppet under the control of the liars and fraudsters themselves. the management of saifee hospital itself indulges in money laundering, nepotism and discrimination against ordinary bohras, under the direction of the kothar. it also allows rich gulf arabs to use the hospital as a hotel and a safe haven for their immoral activities.

this is not a hospital, its a cold-blooded, heartless, mercenary, money-making organisation, just like the entire dawat is today. this hospital is a slaughterhouse and house of horrors.

our community is a community of fools and slaves, that is why the rascal quid johnny will get away with this fraud. this fraud in fact pales in comparison to the thousands of crores worth of scams that he and his evil siblings get away with all the time under the very nose of our blind and gullible community.

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Unread post by ultofanatic » Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:27 am

I cannot understand what Madras University has to do with Open International University for Complimentary Medicines, Colombo, mentioned by zulfikar.

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Unread post by Maqbool » Fri Feb 18, 2011 1:23 am

It is really amazing that the persons sells titles like shaikh, Mulla and others at laks of Rs. are buying a title of doctorate at a very low sum!!! :D

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Unread post by Smart » Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:32 am

^
Aa badhu tijaarat nu taavil chhe. Tame sabak ma aavo to samajh pade.

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Unread post by Muslim First » Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:34 pm

Sibling From Wikipedia,
Siblings (also called sibs) are people who share at least one parent. A male sibling is called a brother; and a female sibling is called a sister. In most societies throughout the world, siblings usually grow up together and spend a good deal of their childhood socializing with one another. This genetic and physical closeness may be marked by the development of strong emotional bond such as love or enmity. The emotional bond between siblings is often complicated and is influenced by factors such as parental treatment, birth order, personality, and personal experiences outside the family.

Did anybody realized that when you are talking about Dai's Sibling,it means Dai's brother or sister!!! Heading should be Dai's Bachada