Request for the translation of the Misaaq

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Request for the translation of the Misaaq

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Unread post by Smart » Sat Aug 30, 2008 12:51 pm

I request the learned people here to post a translation of the misaaq. This will help a lot of youngsters to understand that they are pledging away everything. Their faith, their mind, their ability to think and ask questions, and what not, practically their whole life.

Or it can be a PDF document in the library section of the site.

Throwing light on the misaaq will open up a lot of eyes and create clarity in a situation muddied by the whole process being conducted in lisan e dawat, which most youngsters do not understand.

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Re: Request for the translation of the Misaaq

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Unread post by S. Insaf » Sat Aug 30, 2008 3:46 pm

I will reproduce both the original Misaq for Imam, which was customary and one which is administered at present for Dai, which is made compulsory to be Dawoodi Bohra. They are in typing so please wait.

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Re: Request for the translation of the Misaaq

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Unread post by Smart » Sun Aug 31, 2008 3:12 am

Bro S. Insaf
I really appreciate the prompt and positive reply. Thanks a lot.

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Re: Request for the translation of the Misaaq

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Unread post by S. Insaf » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:18 pm

Misaq for Imam and for Dai is running in many pages. I am communicating with the administration to put under "Bohra literature".

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Re: Request for the translation of the Misaaq

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Unread post by Smart » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:58 pm

Thank you. Is there any way that I can help?

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Re: Request for the translation of the Misaaq

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Unread post by candela » Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:11 am

Assalaamu alaikum,

Thanks Smart for bringing up the misaaq translation, and thanks also to S. Insaf for working on this. I just wanted to mention that I'm anxiously awaiting the chance to read the translation, especially because there are some I know who will be taking the misaaq in a few months (insha-Allah), and I want to be able to present the translation to them so as to inform their decision of whether or not to say "naam". Thanks again...

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Re: Request for the translation of the Misaaq

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Unread post by S. Insaf » Sun Sep 21, 2008 4:57 am

Here is the English Translation of the First Part of Original Misaq Nama originally known as ‘Aihd-ul-Aulia’ . Which is religious in nature.

In the name of God, the Merciful, the Compassionate I ask God’s help in all the matters
All praises are due to God, who created the creatures for His worship and was pleased with their worship, united with the belief in His Unity and He connected that belief with rendering His obedience compulsory and who began His creation of all His servants by one whom He made His Caliph on the surface of the Earth and asked His angels to worship him and made it compulsory to curse one who became proud. And God, the most exalted of all the speakers, says: “When we said to the angles worship Adam they all worshipped except Iblis; he refused and was proud and became of the ungodly.” If God wished He would have created the whole World in the very moment in which He created him. As the most exalted of the speakers says: "Creating you and rising you is nothing but like that of one single soul." But God, dear and exalted, intended that progeny may continue from him and there be obedience in the world for him alone. In it there is wisdom, which He made firm and an argument, which He put before His world. He did not leave them scattered, neglected, misguided and blind. Nay, He made for them a general who brings them together, a guide who leads them (to the right path). God gave Adam such knowledge that he did not become needy towards anybody except God. He (God) made him a male for a female (i.e. He married him with a female) and from them He spread many men and women over the world.
And for the guidance He made an entrance by which one can reach Him and made a ladder to climb to Him and He made a path leading to the ladder and it is a statue of His obligation and His covenant. This covenant gives respect and protection to the people and it is to be protected from the undeserving. Then who so breaks the covenant, God will punish him and whoso fulfills what he promises, God will reward him. So He took covenant upon Adam (peace be on him) and He made it a custom among his descendants, as He says,” And verily we took covenant from Adam before" and He says addressing His worldly worthy creature, Mohammed, His messenger, "And when we took bonds from the prophets, from you, Noah, Moses and Jesus, the son of Mary and we took from them the firm bond." Then God made for every prophet a guilty enemy as He made Iblis an enemy of Adam. This is a custom and a wisdom. There is no alteration in it, as its beginning gives proof for its end, and its past becomes an argument for its future. Now thanks to God, who made everything, created good, and remained Himself alone in His Unity, there being no partner for Him, being not in need of His whole creation, He is Almighty eternal in every step. Eyes cannot see Him and He sees them. He is subtle and knowing. I bear witness that there is no God except Allah and He is alone having no partner. And l bear witness that Mohammed is His servant, and His prophet who came with everything complete, giving reward and gift abundantly, and he is merciful for the whole world and a light, for the remaining period shinning. To respect the prophet He kept lmamat in his descendants up to the Day of Judgment. His sons, who become heir for his rank of Imamat are like the suns in the darkness. They inherited this lmamat in the way (son after father). May God bless Mohammed, the Head of all the prophets, Imam of the God-fearing persons and true of tongue (speech). He was sent at the end of the time towards the men of a nation which was altogether ignorant and kept aloof from the guides. They worshipped idols, obeyed the Satan regarding him as a master. Thus (at this time) he (prophet) spoke with a loud voice and declared the orders and message from Him (God), adventuring, suffering and having patience, thus he became the first towards the belief for which God praised him in His book, saying "Those who are the first are the first and near in the paradise." Further God says, "Surely for the sake of the prophet, God accepted the repentance of Muhajirin and Ansar who obeyed him in the time of difficulty." Thus the first, the first of the first among males is Ali, the son of Abi Talib, the Amir of the believers and his (prophet’s) honest caliph; and among females, Khadija, the daughter of Khawaled. Then those who became believers in him (may God bless him and his descendants) followed him. He took according to that their Ahad (covenant) and made it firm continuing the customs of the past prophets and following their traditions. This custom will be continued till the great future. Afterwards the successor of the prophet, Ali, the son of Abi Talib, followed his steps and then afterwards the Imams from their descendants, whose obedience is made compulsory by God, is connected with His obedience and that of His prophet, peace be on him and his descendants, call towards, God their lord, and make the covenants and bonds firm upon him who answers them following the law of God, the great for his servants. Verily, only for this reason He has created them and for it He ordered them. According to that He made them. If any one of you wish and desire that the curtain of the favourites of God should be shifted away and endeavour to enter the society of the favourites who have no fear, do not grieve. believe in our signs and are Muslims, than he should come forward opening his heart; with presence of mind give ears to the hearing of God’s covenant by which His skies and earth are standing, conjoin his soul with it, obeying and desiring and not going against what he expresses, because He has reproached him who is of this condition. He says "And when they meet those who believe they say, we believe; but when they are apart with their devil they say, verily we are with you; we only do mock. God shall’ mock at them and continue them in their rebellion, blindly wandering" and He says ‘When the hypocrite come to thee they say, we bear witness that verily thou art the apostle of God; and God knows that verily thou art His apostle but God bears witness that verily the hypocrites are liars. They take their oaths or a cloak and they turn aside (others) from the way of God.’ Praising those who are faithful to their oaths of fealty, He says "And he who fulfills what he has covenanted with God. He will give him a great reward." And He says "And those who fulfill the covenant when they covenant, and have patience in adversity and hardship and in time of violence, there it is who are true and these they are the pious. "And he who knows that his heart is against it (Ahad) or is unmindful or is not fully desirous of, should go away until God makes him right otherwise he should mix in the society of those who think themselves independent of God and God is all independent and glorious.
You heard my words, are pleased with my conditions and made your soul such as to adopt it, run towards it having in view the Deen and not the wants of the world, and not to play a trick in order to deprive some of you of his rights. If it is so, SAY “NAAM"

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Re: Request for the translation of the Misaaq

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Unread post by Danish » Sun Sep 21, 2008 9:56 am

The above religious invented fanciful stories reminds of the Creation Myths: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creation_myth

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Re: Request for the translation of the Misaaq

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Unread post by Smart » Sun Sep 21, 2008 3:11 pm

Bro. S. Insaf
Thank you very much. Waiting for your second post of the present version.

Then we can compare the two and show the taheris what they are promising and what for and to whom they are pledging away their souls.

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Re: Request for the translation of the Misaaq

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Unread post by S. Insaf » Thu Sep 25, 2008 1:36 pm

Here is the English Translation of the second part of the original Misaq Nama
Here is the English Translation of the second part of the original Misaq Nama The faithful was now required to maintain all religious as well as political secrets of the mission. Thus the second part began with:- Now the Voluntarism got replaced by Compulsion as the second part assumed the political character. The faithful was now required to maintain all religious as well as political secrets of the mission. Thus the second part began with:-

In the name of God, the Compassionate, the merciful
You took upon yourselves as a duty and made firm upon your necks the covenant of God which is asked for and confirmed; and His bond which is stout and tight, with your obedience and pleasure, owing to (your) inclination; and not for the sake of fear. You shall not dissemble, use tricks and deceive it. But it should be with true intents, clear purposes, good mind, pure conscience, and sincere secrets. You should refrain from dissembling and treacherous attack (going against what your tongues utter) at the hearing of what you covenant me for the servant of God, his favourite, the lmam, peace be on him, his sincere forefathers and his respected sons who are expected (to come one after another) till the day of Deen, but your words should be according to what is hidden in your hearts and what is coiled in your limbs. You bear witness that there is no God except Allah. He is alone; there is no partner for Him. He is the creator of the skies and the earth and what is between them, and lie within them. And verily Mohammed is His servant and prophet and verily Ali, the son of Abi Talib, is his successor-heir to his position, owner of His hidden knowledge, and the master of the male and female believers after him (prophet). Then from their descendants are Imams who are chosen by God one after another. There can be no time without Imam. Say NAAM.

And every body from his descendants or he who will come next whom he will appoint by Nas, or whom he will point out, is Imam whose obedience is compulsory upon the people of his time. Say NAAM.

And the paradise is true, and the fire (hell) is true, and the moment that will come is true, and God will raise all who are in the graves. Say NAAM

You will be regular in time in prayers, give Zakat (tax) properly, keep fasts in the month of Raman, in which God has sent the Quran, go to the Baitullah-il-Haram if any one of you can do that, visit the tomb of the grand father of the Imam of your time Mohammed, Peace be on him and his descendants, fight in the cause of God, fulfilling the duty of Jihad (religious war) and will sincerely obey the Imam. Say NAAM.

And you will obey every one whom Imam will order to obey and you will hear him, will not disobey him, will not deceive him by false pretence, will not be treacherous, will make him true and not false, will help him and not leave him, will act uprightly and not turn from him, will not change what he will bring to you, will not find faults in him whom Imam will be pleased to choose as a messenger, and will carry out what will be ordered by your Imam. Say NAAM.

And you will love him whom he (Imam) loves and fight with him whom he fights with, and with him who breaks the covenant, whether he be a principal or a common man, a relative or a distant. Say NAAM.

You will have no connection with Imam’s enemy by letter, message, hint, signal, sign, inclination or trick i.e. with one of the reasons and causes. Say NAAM.

You will fight sincerely in Imam’s Jihad with your wealth and lives when you will be called by Imam for that and will not become sluggish and you will not disclose to any one among you separating from what you gave oaths to the Imam, but you will put it before Imam or one to whom the knowledge will be parted from you. Say NAAM.

You will not refrain from helping the Imam of your time from following him, from his favours, accepting him as Imam, sincerely in his service and his sincere advice. You shall not be misled from what you covenanted by one gone astray and shall not be turned by a changer notwithstanding you spend at the time of your grand covenant and Missaq by your words NAAM, "We heard and we agree" which is equal to an oath. God knows your conscience and your secrets in your believing, adopting and fulfilling it. You will not be deceitful and cheating and playing tricks until you meet God on the day of meeting as those who have fulfilled their covenant and preserved their Imam. Say NAAM.

You will conceal what you heard and what you will hear by reading Quran and performing religious rites; you will not disclose what is to be hidden, protecting the religion of God and preserving the laws of the prophet of God, peace be on him, and his descendants. You will not oppose anything with any reason concealing it until you meet God on the day of meeting, while you have concealed what you have been ordered to conceal, so that he may be pleased with you. Nothing false should keep you away from the right because God will not accept from you but with the fulfillment of Ahad (covenant). Say NAAM.

You will be pleased with what will be ordered among you, exalting, degrading, gift, forbidden, refusal, reward, punishment, pleasure and displeasure. Say NAAM.

lf any one of you will separate from what I have made firm upon his soul secretly or openly or deceiving in any manner, and in every interpretation, then he is cut off from God, the Creator of the skies and the earth who ordained him (limbs) and blessed him with good health. And he is cut on from Taurat (Pentateuch); the Gospel; Psalms of David; Quran, the great, and the perfect words, truly and justly. Say NAAM.
All the properties, wealth, movable and immovable properties, capital, jewels, goods, cattle, animals for load, and riding, or slaves or whatever he has earned from the world, these all are alms for the poor Muslims, nothing of which can be regained by any contrivance. Say NAAM.

Whatever he will earn in his remaining life is forbidden to him but by the fulfillment of the covenant which has been taken from him. Say NAAM.

And every slave male or female who is in his possession is free in the cause of God. He has no right for them. Say NAAM.
And all his present wives or those whom he shall marry in future then they are as divorced thrice like the divorce of "Al batah," one kind of divorce (by this divorce the wife is utterly prohibited to the husband and he can never re-marry her) and that of Farz and Sunnat which can be performed at the time of menses. It is the divorce which cannot be regained. Say NAAM.
And he is to go to the old house of God at Mecca to perform thirty pilgrimages on bare foot, God will not acknowledge even that but with the fulfillment (of the covenant). Say NAAM.

Upon him lies God‘s curse with which God curses the devil. Heaven is forbidden to him and the Fire will burn him. And he will see God on the day of meeting while he is unbeliever. He denies (his existence); and he is separate from the power of God, taking shelter under the power of his conscience. God’s curse and wrath upon him and his situation (in the Hereafter) will become worst. Say NAAM.

He inclines away from the worship of God, who is merciful and compassionate; to the worship of idols and he holds what the misled and disobedient people keep hold of. God will refuse His mercy to him on the day when he will require it. He will not assist him and will quicken his abjectness and his departure towards the fire of hell in which God has no mercy. Say NAAM.

There is no outlet to separate from the obedience of which I have taken oath upon you, and God is sufficient for the evidence. Say NAAM.

You heard my words and are pleased with my conditions, have taken upon your necks the firm covenant of God and His stout and tight bond for Imam, and his fathers and sons expected to continue up to the Day of Deen, you agree to fulfill the covenant ? Say NAAM.

Be cheerful with your covenant with which you swore fealty, while God says, "Verily, those who swore fealty to you do but swear fealty to God, the hand of God is over his hands; then he who perjures himself does not perjure against himself and he fulfills what he has covenanted God, He will give him a great reward." Through his mercy and benevolence, may God make it permanent and not temporary. May God help you the swearers of fealty and ourselves to fulfill the covenant; and may he make us firm to obey him, His prophets and His favourites and through His mercy may He make us persevering and make our ends better.
All praises are due to God, the one, the omnipotent, peace be on Mohammed, the chosen, on Ali, his successor, the assistant, and on his family the generous, the noble, and the pure. God is sufficient for us. He is good support, good Master and good Assistant. There is no power and strength but with God. A M E N A M E N

You can notice that there is no mention of Dai any where in the entire text. We shall discuss the alteration in Misaq Nama done by Sayedna Taher Saifuddin to become an over all authority and thus enslaving the entire community even when the movement is no longer underground and there is no outside danger.

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Re: Request for the translation of the Misaaq

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Unread post by S. Insaf » Fri Sep 26, 2008 7:10 pm

Now if examine the Misaq Nama manipulated by Sayedna Taher Saifuddin you will admire his cleverness. He reintroduced the political part of Misaq Nama. In the first paragraphs he very cleverly added Dai along with Imam . For example:-

"And if the Imam of the time or his Dai calls upon you to war against the enemy then you should make war. You should help with your life and property. And you should obey the Imam of the time or his Dai sincerely......Say yes.”

Then he changed to ‘Dai of Imam and then directly to ‘Dai’ removing Imam altogather . For example:-

[I ]“And you shall accept the order of the Dai of Imam in all things. And you shall not use that thing which the Dai shall forbid you, and you shall not take steps (towards it) . You shall love him whom the Dai loves. You shall be enemy to him with whom the Dai is hostile . You shall war against him whom the Dai makes war. Any person transgressing those engagements to the Dai is outside the pale of religion. Whether he be great or small, whether he is a close relation or a distant one you shall not have any intercourse with him. You shall not correspond with him openly or secretly. You shall not do any act calculated to be friendly to him. And by no manner or means or pretense shall see the enemy of the Dai. The enemy of the Dai is your enemy .....Say yes.”

In order to misguide the followers that this Misaq is for Imam he very cleverly added:-

“You shall keep up the command of the Imam and that Imam is Imam Tayeb Abul Qasim Amirul-Mominin. He is your Imam.”

Because he has introduced the name last Imam Tayeb Abul Qasim, who went in hiding after the down fall of Fatimid Empire, clearly establishes that this is not the original Misaq Nama of Imam’s time.

Then very clever he introduced the obedience of his Amils . For Example-

“And you shall attend on the summons (of) the Imam or the Dai to make religious war. At that time you shall not shirk or play the coward. You shall with all heart spend your property and your life in the cause of the Dai. You shall report fully to the Dai or to the Deputy of the Dai any person who transgresses the covenant of the Imamuzamam ...Say yes.”

We will next discuss the harshness and compulsion introduced in the text of Misaq Nama by Sayedna Taher Saifuddin Saheb.

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Re: Request for the translation of the Misaaq

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Unread post by humanbeing » Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:16 am

For your reference

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Re: Request for the translation of the Misaaq

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Unread post by ozmujaheed » Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:18 am

Why do bohras need to take Misaq, is it fear of people turning away, threat of being over run by rebels, mind games to keep people in fear.

My question is why did the Fatimids and Ismailis resort to this practise of oath taking when many other Muslims do not ?

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Re: Request for the translation of the Misaaq

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Unread post by Muslim First » Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:54 am

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My question is why did the Fatimids and Ismailis resort to this practise of oath taking when many other Muslims do not ?
Not completly true
Sufi Muslims do Bayat to their pirs. I know a Doctor friend who is Murid of a Plr in Pakistan. Pir's Americn Murids treat Pir as King and all the Murids are kept busy every week end so they do not stray away. He even has baught a flat in Pirs compound in Pak.. Pir uses it to rent it out Murids visiting him. Its a racket and Ismaiis of all sects has perfected to "T" by creating mini religions which look like Islam.

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Re: Request for the translation of the Misaaq

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Unread post by revertbohra » Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:10 am

ozmujaheed wrote:Why do bohras need to take Misaq, is it fear of people turning away, threat of being over run by rebels, mind games to keep people in fear.

My question is why did the Fatimids and Ismailis resort to this practise of oath taking when many other Muslims do not ?
this is not a innovation from bohras.....bayt is taken from the time of rasullullah.......thousands gave bayt to rasullullah(s) and Ali(s) in gadeer e khum.

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Re: Request for the translation of the Misaaq

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Unread post by think » Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:01 am

since the authority of the imam precedes the authority of the dai and since the agakhani imam is a direct descendant of moula Ali; then should the bohras pay homage to the imam aga Khan?

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Re: Request for the translation of the Misaaq

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Unread post by Adam » Wed Mar 07, 2012 3:22 am

@Insaf
Here is the English Translation of the First Part of Original Misaq Nama originally known as ‘Aihd-ul-Aulia’ . Which is religious in nature.

Interesting. If I may ask where/book/source you got this specific documentation of the Misaaq Nama from the Imams time?

Thanks.

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Re: Request for the translation of the Misaaq

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Unread post by Hussain_KSA » Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:10 am

Adam wrote:@Insaf
Here is the English Translation of the First Part of Original Misaq Nama originally known as ‘Aihd-ul-Aulia’ . Which is religious in nature.

Interesting. If I may ask where/book/source you got this specific documentation of the Misaaq Nama from the Imams time?

Thanks.
Refer to the history of fatimids in Egypt. There is other book of Dr. Zahid Ali on Ismiali imams and system. He has quoted it from Ithbat ul Imama of Syedna Kirmani and few risalas of Syedna Hatim bin Ibrahim Al Hamidi.

These books are available in Jamia's library.

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Re: Request for the translation of the Misaaq

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Unread post by Adam » Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:27 am

Thanks Husain
I'm referring specifially to the translation posted above. The original text and citation.
Thanks

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Re: Request for the translation of the Misaaq

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Unread post by Muslim First » Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:18 pm

revertbohra wrote: this is not a innovation from bohras.....bayt is taken from the time of rasullullah.......thousands gave bayt to rasullullah(s) and Ali(s) in gadeer e khum.
.......thousands gave bayt to rasullullah(s)
Really? How many pages of Mithaq Prophet had and How many times these people had to say NAM?

Here is what Allah asks Prophet about Bayat
[Shakir 60:12] O Prophet! when believing women come to you giving you a pledge that they will not associate aught with Allah, and will not steal, and will not commit fornication, and will not kill their children, and will not bring a calumny which they have forged of themselves, and will not disobey you in what is good, accept their pledge, and ask forgiveness for them from Allah; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

This equally would apply to men.
Where is promise of Tan man & Dhan.
Where is promise of first born to Imam?
Ismaili Mithaq is a plain innovation.

thousands gave bayt to rasullullah

What did Prophet say? Did he say After my death Hz Ali will be your leader?
Did he give him Sharbat?
According to Shia 100,000 were there. Did they all line up and one by one say Nam, Nam!
And when Prophet passed away, why did these 100,000 stand up and say hay stop we all gave Bayat to Ali.

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Re: Request for the translation of the Misaaq

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Unread post by Muslim First » Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:33 am

Correction

thousands gave bayt to rasullullah(s) and Ali(s) in gadeer e khum.
What did Prophet say? Did he say After my death Hz Ali will be your leader?
Did he give him Sharbat?
According to Shia 100,000 were there. Did they all line up and one by one and said Nam, Nam!
And when Prophet passed away, why these 100,000 stand up in Madina and say hay stop remember we all gave Bayat to Ali at Gadheer.

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Re: Request for the translation of the Misaaq

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Unread post by Adam » Thu Mar 08, 2012 2:45 pm

Thanks Husain
I'm referring specifially to the translation posted above. The original text and citation.
Thanks