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FIRSTLY making pictures of himself:From Wasa’il ash-Shi`a, book of salat, chapters on the rules of dwellings



3 ـ باب عدم جواز نقش البيت بالتماثيل والصور ذوات الأرواح خاصة ، وكراهة غيرها وعدم جواز اللعب بها



3 – Chapter on the impermissibility of engraving the house with images and images of living things (lit. possessors of souls) specifically, and the dislike of other than it and the impermissibility of playing with it.



[6608] 1 ـ محمد بن يعقوب ، عن محمد بن يحيى ، عن أحمد بن محمد بن عيسى ، عن محمد بن خالد ، والحسين بن سعيد ، عن القاسم بن محمد الجوهري ، عن علي بن أبي حمزة ، عن أبي بصير ، عن أبي عبدالله ( عليه السلام ) قال : قال رسول الله ( صلى الله عليه وآله ) : أتاني جبرئيل وقال : يا محمد ، إن ربك يقرئك السلام وينهى عن تزويق البيوت.

قال أبو بصير : فقلت : وما تزويق البيوت ؟ فقال : تصاوير التماثيل.

ورواه البرقي في ( المحاسن ) عن أبيه ، عن عثمان بن عيسى ، عن سماعة ، عن أبي بصير ، مثله.



1 – Muhammad b. Ya`qub from Muhammad b. Yahya from Ahmad b. Muhammad b. `Isa from Muhammad b. Khalid and al-Husayn b. Sa`id from al-Qasim b. Muhammad al-Jawhari from `Ali b. Abi Hamza from Abu Basir from Abu `Abdillah عليه السلام. He said: The Messenger of Allah صلى الله عليه وآله said: Jibra’il came to me and said: O Muhamad, verily your Lord recites salam to you and prohibits the adornment of houses.

Abu Basir said: So I said: And what is the adornment of houses? So he said: Fashioning images.

And al-Barqi narrated it in al-Mahasin from his father from `Uthman b. `Isa from Sama`a from Abu Basir likewise.



[6609] 2 ـ وعن علي بن إبراهيم ، عن أبيه ، عن ابن أبي عمير ، عن رجل ، عن أبي عبدالله ( عليه السلام ) قال : من مثل تمثالاً كلف يوم القيامة أن ينفخ فيه الروح.

ورواه البرقي في ( المحاسن ) عن أبيه ، عن ابن أبي عمير ، مثله.



2 – And from `Ali b. Ibrahim from his father from Ibn Abi `Umayr from a man from Abu `Abdillah عليه السلام. He said: One who fashions an image will be charged with blowing the spirit in it on the day of the resurrection.

And al-Barqi narrated it in al-Mahasin from his father from Ibn Abi `Umayr likewise.



[6610] 3 ـ وعنه ، عن أبيه ، عن محمد بن أبي عمير ، عن المثنى ، عن أبي عبدالله ( عليه السلام ) أن علياً ( عليه السلام ) كره الصور في البيوت.

ورواه البرقي في ( المحاسن ) عن أبيه ، عن محمد بن أبي عمير ، عن المثنى ، وعن محمد بن علي ، عن ابن فضال ، عن المثنى ، مثله.



3 – And from him from his father from Muhammad b. Abi `Umayr from al-Muthanna from Abu `Abdillah عليه السلام that `Ali عليه السلام disliked images in the homes.

And al-Barqi narrated it in al-Mahasin from his father from Muhammad b. Abi `Umayr from al-Muthanna and from Muhammad b. `Ali from Ibn Faddal from al-Muthanna likewise.



[6611] 4 ـ وعن محمد بن يحيى ، عن أحمد وعبدالله ابني محمد بن عيسى ، عن علي بن الحكم ، عن أبان بن عثمان ، عن أبي العباس ، عن أبي عبدالله ( عليه السلام ) في قول الله عز وجل : ( يعملون له ما يشاء من محاريب وتماثيل ) فقال : والله ما هي تماثيل الرجال والنساء ، ولكنها الشجر وشبهه.

ورواه البرقي في ( المحاسن ) عن علي بن الحكم ، مثله.



4 – And from Muhammad b. Yahya from Ahmad and `Abdullah the two sons of Muhammad b. `Isa from `Ali b. al-Hakam from Aban b. `Uthman from Abu ‘l-`Abbas from Abu `Abdillah عليه السلام regarding the saying of Allah `azza wa jalla “Fashioning what he wanted of places of worship and images” (34:13). So he said: By Allah, it is not the images of men and women, rather it is (of) the trees and its like.

And al-Barqi narrated it in al-Mahasin from `Ali b. al-Hakam likewise.



[6612] 5 ـ وعن أبي علي الأشعري ، عن أحمد بن محمد ، وعن حميد بن زياد ، عن الحسن بن محمد بن سماعة جميعاً ، عن أحمد بن الحسن الميثمي ، عن أبان بن عثمان ، عن الحسين بن المنذر قال : قال أبو عبدالله ( عليه السلام ) : ثلاثة معذبون يوم القيامة : رجل كذب في رؤيا يكلف أن يعقد بين شعيرتين وليس بعاقد بينهما ، ورجل صور تماثيل يكلف أن ينفخ فيها وليس بنافخ.

ورواه البرقي في ( المحاسن ) : عن محسن بن أحمد ، عن أبان بن عثمان ، مثله.



5 – And from Abu `Ali al-Ash`ari from Ahmad b. Muhammad and from Hamid (?) b. Ziyad from al-Hasan b. Muhammad b. Sama`a, all from Ahmad b. al-Hasan al-Maythami from Aban b. `Uthman from al-Husayn b. al-Mundhir. He said: Abu `Abdillah عليه السلام said: Three (that) are punished on the day of the resurrection: A man who lied regarding his vision (or, dream), he will be tasked with knotting little hairs and is not able to knot between them; and a man who makes images, he will be tasked with blowing in it while not being able to blow.

And al-Barqi narrated it in al-Mahasin from Muhsin b. Ahmad from Aban b. `Uthman likewise.



[6613] 6 ـ وعن عدة من أصحابنا ، عن سهل بن زياد ، عن أحمد بن محمد بن أبي نصر ، عن داود بن الحصين ، عن الفضل أبي العباس قال : قلت لأبي جعفر ( عليه السلام ) قول الله عز وجل : ( يعملون له ما يشاء من محاريب وتماثيل وجفان كالجواب ) قال : ما هي تماثيل الرجال والنساء ، ولكنها تماثيل الشجر وشبهه.



6 – And from a number of our companions from Sahl b. Ziyad from Ahmad b. Muhammad b. Abi Nasr from Dawud b. al-Husayn from al-Fadl Abu ‘l-`Abbas. He said: I said to Abu Ja`far عليه السلام: The saying of Allah `azza wa jalla “Fashioning for him what he wanted of places of worship and images and basins like reservoirs” (34:13). He said: It is not the images of men and women, rather it is the images of trees and its like.



[6614] 7 ـ وعنهم ، عن سهل ، عن جعفر بن محمد الأشعري ، عن ابن القداح ، عن أبي عبدالله ( عليه السلام ) قال : أمير المؤمنين ( عليه السلام ) : بعثني رسول الله ( صلى الله عليه وآله ) في هدم القبور وكسر الصور.

ورواه البرقي في ( المحاسن ) عن جعفر بن محمد الأشعري ، مثله.



7 – And from them from Sahl from Ja`far b. Muhammad al-Ash`ari from Ibn al-Qaddah (?) from Abu `Abdillah عليه السلام. He said: Amir al-Mu’mineen عليه السلام said: The Messenger of Allah صلى الله عليه وآله sent me to tear down the graves and break the images.



[6615] 8 ـ وعن علي بن إبراهيم ، عن أبيه ، عن النوفلي ، عن السكوني ، عن أبي عبدالله ( عليه السلام ) قال : قال أمير المؤمنين ( عليه السلام ) : بعثني رسول الله ( صلى الله عليه وآله ) إلى المدينة فقال : لا تدع صورة إلا محوتها ، ولا قبراً إلا سويته ، ولا كلباً إلا قتلته.

ورواه البرقي في ( المحاسن ) عن النوفلي ، مثله.



8 – And from `Ali b. Ibrahim from his father from an-Nawfali from as-Sakuni from Abu `Abdillah عليه السلام. He said: Amir al-Mu’mineen عليه السلام said: The Messenger of Allah صلى الله عليه وآله sent me to Madina, and said: Do not leave an image but that you have effaced it, nor a grave but that you have leveled it, nor a dog but that you have killed it.

And al-Barqi narrated it in al-Mahasin from an-Nawfali likewise.



[6616] 9 ـ محمد بن الحسن بإسناده عن الحسين بن سعيد ، عن النضر بن سويد ، عن القاسم بن سليمان ، عن جراح المدائني ، عن أبي عبدالله ( عليه السلام ) قال : لا تبنوا على القبور ولا تصوروا سقوف البيوت فإن رسول الله ( صلى الله عليه وآله ) كره ذلك.

أحمد بن محمد البرقي في ( المحاسن ) عن أبيه ، عن النضر بن سويد ، مثله.

وعن يوسف بن عقيل ، عن محمد بن قيس ، عن أبي جعفر ( عليه السلام ) ، مثله.



9 – Muhammad b. al-Hasan by his isnad from al-Husayn b. Sa`id from an-Nadr b. Suwayd from al-Qasim b. Sulayman from Jarrah al-Mada’ini from Abu `Abdillah عليه السلام. He said: Do not build upon the graves and do not make images on the roofs of the houses, for verily the Messenger of Allah صلى الله عليه وآله disliked that.

Ahmad b. Muhammad al-Barqi in al-Mahasin from his father from an-Nadr b. Suwayd likewise.

And from Yusuf b. `Aqil from Muhammad b. Qays from Abu Ja`far عليه السلام likewise.



[6617] 10 ـ وعن أبيه ، عن ابن سنان ، عن أبي الجارود ، عن الأصبغ بن نباتة ، عن أمير المؤمنين ( عليه السلام ) قال : من جدد قبراً أو مثل مثالاً فقد خرج من الإسلام.

ورواه الشيخ والصدوق كما مر.



10 And from his father from Ibn Sinan from Abu ‘l-Jarud from al-Asbagh b. Nabata from Amir al-Mu’mineen عليه السلام. He said: Whoever renovates a grave or fashions an image has gone out of Islam.

And the Shaykh and as-Saduq narrated it as has passed (earlier in Wasa’il).



[6618] 11 ـ وعن أبيه ، عن القاسم بن محمد ، عن علي بن أبي حمزة ، عن أبي بصير ، عن أبي عبدالله ( عليه السلام ) قال : قال رسول الله ( صلى الله عليه وآله ) : أتاني جبرئيل فقال : يا محمد ، إن ربك ينهى عن التماثيل.



11 – And from his father from al-Qasim b. Muhammad from `Ali b. Abi Hamza from Abu Basir from Abu `Abdillah عليه السلام. He said: The Messenger of Allah صلى الله عليه وآله said: Jibra’il came to me, and he said: O Muhammad, verily your Lord prohibits the images.



[6619] 12 ـ وعن ( محمد بن علي ، عن أبي جميلة ) ، عن سعد بن طريف ، عن أبي جعفر ( عليه السلام ) قال : إن الذين يؤذون الله ورسوله هم المصورون يكلفون يوم القيامة أن ينفخوا فيها الروح.



12 – And from [Muhammad b. `Ali from Abu Jamil] (Muhammad b. `Ali Abi Jamila – in al-Mahasin) from Sa`d b. Tarif from Abu Ja`far عليه السلام. He said: Verily those who annoy Allah and His Messenger are the fashioners of images; they are tasked on the day of the resurrection with blowing the soul in it.



[6620] 13 ـ وعن علي بن الحكم ، ومحسن بن أحمد جميعاً ، عن أبان الأحمر ، عن يحيى بن أبي العلاء ، عن أبي عبدالله ( عليه السلام ) أنه كره الصور في البيوت.



13 – And from `Ali b. al-Hakam and Muhsin b. Ahmad, all from Aban al-Ahmar from Yahya b. Abi ‘l-`Ala from Abu `Abdillah عليه السلام that he disliked images in the houses.



[6621] 14 ـ وعن ابن العرزمي ، عن حاتم بن إسماعيل ، عن جعفر ، عن أبيه أن علياً كان يكره الصورة في البيوت.



14 – And from Ibn al-`Arzami from Hatim b. Isma`il from Ja`far from his father that `Ali used to dislike the image in the houses.



[6622] 15 ـ وعن موسى بن قاسم ، عن علي بن جعفر ، عن أخيه موسى ( عليه السلام ) أنه سأل أباه عن التماثيل ؟ فقال : لا يصلح أن يلعب بها.



15 – And from Musa b. Qasim from `Ali b. Ja`far from his brother Musa عليه السلام that he asked his father about the images. So he said: It is not appropriate to play with it.



[6623] 16 ـ وعن أبيه ، عمن ذكره ، عن مثنى رفعه قال : التماثيل لا يصلح أن يلعب بها.



16 – And from his father from the one whom he mentioned from Muthanna going up to him. He said: It is not appropriate to play with the images.



[6624] 17 ـ وعن أبيه ، عن حماد بن عيسى ، عن حريز بن عبدالله ، عن محمد بن مسلم قال : سالت أبا عبدالله ( عليه السلام ) عن تماثيل الشجر والشمس والقمر ؟ فقال : لا بأس ما لم يكن شيئاً من الحيوان.



17 – And from his father from Hammad b. `Isa from Hariz b. `Abdullah from Muhammad b. Muslim. He said: I asked Abu `Abdillah عليه السلام about the images of trees and the sun and the moon. So he said: There is no harm as long as it is not anything of the animals.





4 ـ باب جواز ابقاء التماثيل التي توطأ أو تغير أو تغطى أو تكون للنساء



4 – Chapter on the permissibility of keeping images which one steps on or alters or covers or that is for the women



[6625] 1 ـ محمد بن يعقوب ، عن عدة من أصحابنا ، عن أحمد بن محمد بن خالد ، عن إسماعيل بن مهران ، عن عبدالله بن المغيرة قال : سمعت الرضا ( عليه السلام ) يقول : قال قائل لأبي جعفر ( عليه السلام ) : يجلس الرجل على بساط فيه تماثيل ؟ فقال : الأعاجم تعظمه وإنا لنمتهنه.



1 – Muhammad b. Ya`qub from a number of our compions from Ahmad b. Muhammad b. Khalid from Isma`il b. Mihran from `Abdullah b. al-Mughira. He said: I heard ar-Rida عليه السلام saying: A speaker said to Abu Ja`far عليه السلام: Do the men sit upon the carpet on which at images? So he said: The A`ajim (i.e. Persians) venerate it and we surely scorn it.



[6626] 2 ـ وعنهم ، عن أحمد ، عن عثمان بن عيسى ، عن سماعة ، عن أبي بصير ، عن أبي عبدالله ( عليه السلام ) قال : سألته عن الوسادة والبساط يكون فيه التماثيل ؟ فقال : لا بأس به يكون في البيت ، قلت ، التماثيل ؟ فقال : كل شيء يوطأ فلا بأس به.



2 – And from them from Ahmad from `Uthman b. `Isa from Sama`a from Abu Basir from Abu `Abdillah عليه السلام. He said: I asked him about the cushion and mat on which are images. So he said: There is no harm with what is in the house. I said: And the images? So he said: Everything which is tread upon, then there is no harm with it.



[6627] 3 ـ وعن علي بن إبراهيم ، عن أبيه ، عن ابن أبي عمير ، عن جميل بن دراج ، عن زرارة بن أعين ، عن أبي جعفر ( عليه السلام ) قال : لا بأس بأن تكون التماثيل في البيوت إذا غيرت رؤوسها منها وترك ما سوى ذلك.

ورواه البرقي في ( المحاسن ) : عن الحسن بن محبوب ، عن العلاء بن رزين ، عن محمد بن مسلم ، عن أبي جعفر ( عليه السلام ) ، مثله.



3 – And from `Ali b. Ibrahim from his father from Ibn Abi `Umayr from Jamil b. Darraj from Zurara b. A`yan from Abu Ja`far عليه السلام. He said: There is not harm that there be images in the houses when its head is altered from it and what is other than that is left.

And al-Barqi narrated it in al-Mahasin from al-Hasan b. Mahbub from al-`Ala b. Razin from Muhammad b. Muslim from Abu Ja`far عليه السلام likewise.



[6628] 4 ـ وعنه ، عن صالح بن السندي ، عن جعفر بن بشير ، عمن ذكره ، عن أبي عبدالله ( عليه السلام ) قال : كانت لعلي بن الحسين ( عليه السلام ) وسائد وأنماط فيما تماثيل يجلس عليها.



4 – And from him from Salih b. as-Sindi from Ja`far b. Bashir from the one whom he mentioned from Abu `Abdillah عليه السلام. He said: `Ali b. al-Husayn عليه السلام had cushions and carpets on which were images that he would sit upon.



[6629] 5 ـ وعن أبي علي الأشعري ، عن محمد بن سالم ، عن أحمد بن النضر ، عن عمرو بن شمر ، عن جابر ، عن عبدالله بن يحيى الكندي ، عن أبيه وكان صاحب مطهرة أمير المؤمنين ( عليه السلام ) قال : قال رسول الله ( صلى الله عليه وآله ) : قال : جبرئيل : إنا لا ندخل بيتاً فيه تمثال لا يوطأ ، الحديث مختصر.



5 – And from Abu `Ali al-Ash`ari from Muhammad b. Salim from Ahmad b. Nadr from `Amr b. Shimr from Jabir from `Abdullah b. Yahya al-Kindi from his father and he was a pure (?) companion of Amir al-Mu’mineen عليه السلام. He said: The Messenger of Allah صلى الله عليه وآله said: Jibra’il said: Verily we do not enter a house in which there is an image that is not tread upon (the hadith is shortened)



[6630] 6 ـ أحمد بن محمد البرقي في ( المحاسن ) عن أبيه ، عن فضالة بن أيوب ، وصفوان جميعاً ، عن محمد بن مسلم ، عن أبي جعفر ( عليه السلام ‎) قال : قال له رجل : رحمك الله ما هذه التماثيل التي أراها في بيوتكم ؟ فقال : هذا للنساء أو بيوت النساء.

وعن ابن محبوب ، عن العلاء ، عن محمد بن مسلم ، مثله.



6 – Ahmad b. Muhammad al-Barqi in al-Mahasin from his father from Faddala b. Ayyub and Safwan, all from Muhammad b. Muslim from Abu Ja`far عليه السلام. He said: A man said to him: May Allah have mercy on you, what are these images that I see in your houses? So said: This is for the women or the houses of the women.



[6631] 7 ـ الحسن بن الفضل الطبرسي في ( مكارم الأخلاق ) : عن الحلبي ، عن أبي عبدالله ( عليه السلام ) قال : ربما قمت أصلي وبين يدي وسادة فيها تماثيل طائر فجعلت عليه ثوباً ، وقال : قد أهديت إلي طنفسة من الشام فيها

تماثيل طائر فأمرت به فغير رأسه فجعل كهيئة الشجر ، وقال : إن الشيطان أشد ما يهم بالإنسان إذا كان وحده.



7 – al-Hasan b. al-Fadl at-Tabrisi in Makarim al-Akhlaq from al-Halabi from Abu `Abdillah عليه السلام. He said: Sometimes I get up to pray and before me is a cushion on which are images of a bird, so I place a piece of clothing upon it. And he said: A carpet was gifted to me from Syria on which were images of a bird, so I ordered regarding it, and its head was changed and made like the form of the tree. And he said: Verily Shaytan is stronger (?) (in?) what worries (?) man when he is alone.



[6632] 8 ـ وعن أبي الحسن ( عليه السلام ) قال : دخل قوم على أبي جعفر ( عليه السلام ) وهو على بساط فيه تماثيل فسألوه فقال : أردت أن أهينه.



8 – And from Abu ‘l-Hasan عليه السلام. He said: A group entered upon Abu Ja`far عليه السلام and he was upon a mat on which were images. So they asked him, and he said: I wanted to disparage it.







From Wasa’il ash-Shi`a, the book of commerce, chapters on what one trades in





94 ـ باب تحريم عمل الصور المجسمة والتماثيل ذوات الارواح خاصة واللعب بها وجواز افتراشها



94 – Chapter on the forbiddance of fashioning embodied images (as-suwar al-mujassama) and images (at-tamatheel) of the living things (lit. possessors of souls) specifically and playing with them and the permissibility of laying them out



[ 22569 ] 1 ـ محمد بن يعقوب ، عن محمد بن يحيى ، عن أحمد بن محمد ، عن علي بن الحكم ، عن أبان بن عثمان ، عن أبي العباس ، عن أبي عبدالله ( عليه السلام ) في قول الله عزّوجلّ : ( يعملون له ما يشاء من محاريب وتماثيل ) فقال : والله ما هي تماثيل الرجال والنساء ، ولكنها الشجر وشبهه .

أحمد بن أبي عبدالله البرقي في ( المحاسن ) عن علي بن الحكم مثله .



1 – Muhammad b. Ya`qub from Muhammad b. Yahya from Ahmad b. Muhammad [Ahmad and `Abdullah the two sons of Muhammad b. `Isa – in al-Kafi] from `Ali b. Hakam from Aban b. `Uthman from Abu ‘l-`Abbas from Abu `Abdillah عليه السلام regarding the saying of Allah, `azza wa jalla, “fashioning for him whatsoever he would of places of worship and images.” (34:13) So he said: By Allah, it is not images of men and women, rather it is trees and its like.

Ahmad b. `Abu `Abdillah al-Barqi in “al-Mahasin” from `Ali b. Hakam likewise.



[ 22570 ] 2 ـ وعن أبيه ، عن ابن أبي عمير ، عن جميل بن دراج ، عن زرارة ، عن أبي جعفر ( عليه السلام ) قال : لا بأس بتماثيل الشجر .



2 - And from his father, from Ibn Abi `Umayr from Jamil b. Darraj from Zurara from Abu Ja`far عليه السلام. He said: There is no problem with images of trees.



[ 22571 ] 3 ـ وعن أبيه ، عن حماد بن عيسى ، عن حريز ، عن محمد بن مسلم قال : سألت أبا عبدالله ( عليه السلام ) عن تماثيل الشجر والشمس والقمر ؟ فقال : لا بأس ما لم يكن شيئا من الحيوان .



3 - And from his father from Hammad b. `Isa from Hariz from Muhammad b. Muslim. He said: I asked Abu `Abdillah عليه السلام about images of trees, the sun, and the moon. So he said: There is no problem so long as it is not of something from the animals.



[ 22572 ] 4 ـ محمد بن الحسن بإسناده عن الحسن بن محمد بن سماعة ، عن عبدالله بن جبلة ، عن علي بن أبي حمزة ، عن أبي بصير قال : قلت لابي عبدالله ( عليه السلام ) : إنا نبسط عندنا الوسائد فيها التماثيل ونفترشها ، فقال : لا بأس بما يبسط منها ويفترش ويوطأ إنما يكره منها ما نصب على الحائط والسرير .



4 - Muhammad b. al-Hasan with his isnad from al-Hasan b. Muhammad b. Sama`a from `Abdullah b. Jabla from `Ali b. Abi Hamza from Abu Basir. He said: I said to Abu `Abdillah عليه السلام: Pillows with images on them are spread out with us, and we lie down on them (?). So he said: There is no problem with what is spread of them and what is lain upon and what is tread upon. All that is disliked from it is what is put up on the wall or bedstead (sarir, also can mean elevated seat).



[ 22573 ] 5 ـ وعنه ، عن جعفر بن إبراهيم بن عبد الحميد ، عن أبي حمزة قال : دخلت على علي بن الحسين ( عليه السلام ) وهو جالس على نمرقة ، فقال : يا جارية هاتي النمرقة .



5 - And from him from Ja`far b. Ibrahim from `Abd al-Hamid [Ja`far from Ibrahim b. `Abd al-Hamid – in at-Tahdheeb] from Abu Hamza. He said: I entered upon `Ali b. al-Husayn عليه السلام and he was sitting upon a cushion. So he said: O girl (jaariya, slave woman) give me the cushion.



[ 22574 ] 6 ـ محمد بن علي بن الحسين بإسناده عن شعيب بن واقد ، عن الحسين بن زيد ، عن الصادق ، عن آبائه ( عليهم السلام ) ـ في حديث المناهي ـ قال : نهى رسول الله ( صلّى الله عليه وآله ) عن التصاوير ، وقال : من صور صورة كلفه الله تعالى يوم القيامة أن ينفخ فيها وليس بنافخ ، ونهى أن يحرق شيء من الحيوان بالنار ، ونهى عن التختم بخاتم صفر أو حديد ، ونهى أن ينقش شيء من الحيوان على الخاتم .



6 - Muhammad b. `Ali b. al-Husayn by his isnad from Shu`ayb b. Waqid from al-Husayn b. Zayd from as-Sadiq from his fathers عليه السلام in the hadith of prohibitions. He said: The Messenger of Allah صلى الله عليه وآله prohibited images. And he said: One who makes an image, on the Day of the Resurrection Allah Ta`ala will task him to blow in it and he will not be able to blow. And he prohibited burning something from the animals by fire. And he prohibited wearing a brass or iron ring. And he prohibited etching something of the animals upon the ring.



[ 22575 ] 7 ـ وفي ( الخصال ) عن أبيه ، عن عبدالله بن جعفر الحميري ، عن يعقوب بن يزيد ، عن محمد بن الحسن الميثمي ، عن هشام ابن أحمر ، وعبدالله بن مسكان جميعا ، عن محمد بن مروان ، عن أبي عبدالله ( عليه السلام ) قال : سمعته يقول : ثلاثة يعذبون يوم القيامة : من صور صورة من الحيوان يعذب حتى ينفخ فيها وليس بنافخ فيها ، والمكذب في منامه يعذب حتى يعقد بين شعيرتين وليس بعاقد بينهما ، والمستمع إلى حديث قوم وهم له كارهون يصب في اذنه الانك وهو الاسرب .



7 - And in the “al-Khisal” from his father from `Abdullah b. Ja`far al-Humayri from Ya`qub b. Yazid from Muhammad b. al-Hasan al-Haythami from Hisham b. Ahmar, and `Abdullah b. Miskan, all of them from Muhammad b. Marwan from Abu `Abdillah عليه السلام. He said: I heard him saying: Three (that) are punished on the Day of the Resurrection: One who makes an image of animals is punished until he blows in it and he shall not be able to blow in it. And the one who lies about his sleep is punished until he knots two hairs (?) together, and he shall not be able to knot them. And the one who eavesdrops on the talk of a people and they are averse to him, has lead (al-anuk) poured in his ear and it is lead (al-asrab).



[ 22576 ] 8 ـ وفي ( عقاب الاعمال ) عن محمد بن الحسن ، عن الصفار ، عن يعقوب بن يزيد مثله : إلا أنه قال : والمستمع من قوم .



8 - And in “`Iqab al-A`mal” from Muhammad b. al-Hasan from as-Saffar from Ya`qub b. Yazid likewise, except that he said: And the eavesdropper from [between – in `Iqab] a people.



[ 22577 ] 9 ـ وفي ( الخصال ) عن الخليل بن أحمد ، عن أبي جعفر الدبيلي ، عن أبي عبدالله ، عن سفيان ، عن أيوب السختياني ، عن عكرمة ، عن ابن عباس قال : قال رسول الله ( صلّى الله عليه وآله ) : من صور صورة عذب وكلف أن ينفخ فيها وليس بفاعل ، ومن كذب في حلمه عذب وكلف أن يعقد بين شعيرتين وليس بفاعل ، ومن استمع إلى حديث قوم وهم له كارهون يصب في اذنيه الانك يوم القيامة .

قال سفيان : الآنك : الرصاص .



9 - And in “al-Khisal” from al-Khalil b. Ahmad from Abu Ja`far ad-Dubayli from Abu `Abdillah from Sufyan from Ayyub as-Sakhtiyan from `Akrama from Ibn `Abbas. He said: The Messenger of Allah صلى الله عليه وآله said: One who makes an image is punished and charged with blowing in it and he is not be able to do it. And one who lies regarding his dream is punished and is charged with knotting two little hairs and he is not be able to do it. And one who eavesdrops on the talk of a people and they are averse to him has lead poured in his ear on the Day of the Resurrection.

As-Sufyan said: Lead (al-anuk) is lead (ar-rasas).



[ 22578 ] 10 ـ عبدالله بن جعفر في ( قرب الاسناد ) عن عبدالله بن الحسن ، عن جده علي بن جعفر ، عن أخيه موسى بن جعفر ( عليه السلام ) قال : سألته عن التماثيل هل يصلح أن يلعب بها ؟ قال : لا .



10 - `Abdullah b. Ja`far in “Qurb al-Isnad” from `Abdullah b. al-Hasan from his grandfather `Ali b. Ja`far from his brother Musa b. Ja`far عليه السلام. He said: I asked him about the images, is it appropriate to play with it? He said: No.

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And from them from Sahl from Ja`far b. Muhammad al-Ash`ari from Ibn al-Qaddah (?) from Abu `Abdillah عليه السلام. He said: Amir al-Mu’mineen عليه السلام said: The Messenger of Allah صلى الله عليه وآله sent me to tear down the graves and break the images.

6615] 8 ـ وعن علي بن إبراهيم ، عن أبيه ، عن النوفلي ، عن السكوني ، عن أبي عبدالله ( عليه السلام ) قال : قال أمير المؤمنين ( عليه السلام ) : بعثني رسول الله ( صلى الله عليه وآله ) إلى المدينة فقال : لا تدع صورة إلا محوتها ، ولا قبراً إلا سويته ، ولا كلباً إلا قتلته.

ورواه البرقي في ( المحاسن ) عن النوفلي ، مثله.

8 – And from `Ali b. Ibrahim from his father from an-Nawfali from as-Sakuni from Abu `Abdillah عليه السلام. He said: Amir al-Mu’mineen عليه السلام said: The Messenger of Allah صلى الله عليه وآله sent me to Madina, and said: Do not leave an image but that you have effaced it, nor a grave but that you have leveled it, nor a dog but that you have killed it.

And al-Barqi narrated it in al-Mahasin from an-Nawfali likewise.

[6616] 9 ـ محمد بن الحسن بإسناده عن الحسين بن سعيد ، عن النضر بن سويد ، عن القاسم بن سليمان ، عن جراح المدائني ، عن أبي عبدالله ( عليه السلام ) قال : لا تبنوا على القبور ولا تصوروا سقوف البيوت فإن رسول الله ( صلى الله عليه وآله ) كره ذلك.


وبإسناده عن الحسين بن سعيد ، عن النضر بن سويد ، عن القاسم بن سليمان ، عن جراح المدائني ، عن أبي عبدالله ( عليه السلام ) قال : لا تبنوا على القبور ولا تصوروا سقوف البيوت ، فإن رسول الله ( صلى الله عليه وآله ) كره ذلك .
Abu Abdillah – ‘alayhis-salam said,” Do not build upon the graves and dont decorate the roofs of houses because the Messenger of Allah – sallallahu ‘alayhi wa sallam – hated this.

قال النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم لا تتخذوا قبري قبلة ولا مسجداً؛ فإن الله عز وجل لعن اليهود حين اتخذوا قبور أنبيائهم مساجد
“The prophet (sallalahu alayhi wa ala alihi wa salam) said: “Don’t take my grave like place of worship or “Kibla”, Allah cursed jews which build Mosques over graves of their prophets”.
Source: Sheih Saduk “Man la yahduruhul fagih” vol 1, p 178, hadis# 532;
Allama Majlisi “Biharul Anwar” vol 79, p 20;
Allama Majlisi “Biharul anwar” vol 80, p 313



عَلِيُّ بْنُ الْحُسَيْنِ عَنْ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ الْحُسَيْنِ بْنِ أَبِي الْخَطَّابِ عَنْ عَلِيِّ بْنِ أَسْبَاطٍ عَنْ عَلِيِّ بْنِ جَعْفَرٍ قَالَ سَأَلْتُ أَبَا الْحَسَنِ مُوسَى ع عَنِ الْبِنَاءِ عَلَى الْقَبْرِ وَ الْجُلُوسِ عَلَيْهِ هَلْ يَصْلُحُ قَالَ
لَا يَصْلُحُ الْبِنَاءُ عَلَيْهِ وَ لَا الْجُلُوسُ وَ لَا تَجْصِيصُهُ وَ لَا تَطْيِينُهُ
‘Alee bin Ja’far asked our 7th Imaam about building upon graves and sitting (by them). He said: One cannot build upon it, and sit, and plaster, and “clay” it over

Source:
Al-Toosi, Tahdheeb Al-aHkaam, vol. 1, ch. 23, pg. 461, hadeeth # 148
Al-Toosi, Al-IstibSaar, vol. 1, ch. 128, pg. 217, hadeeth # 1
Al-Aamilee, Wasaa’il Al-Shee’ah, vol. 3, ch. 44, pg. 210, hadeeth # 3426
Al-Majlisi, Bihaar Al-Anwaar, vol. 3, ch. 12, pg. 79
‘Alee ibn Ja’far (brother of 7th Imaam ), Masaa-il ‘Alee ibn Ja’far, pg. 212, hadeeth # 460
Grading: Al-Majlisi said this hadeeth is Muwaththaq KalSaHeeH (Reliable (taken as a) SaHeeH (hadeeth))
–> Milaadh Al-Akhyaar, vol. 3, pg. 298
The reason why it is considered Muwaththaq (Reliable) is mainly because of ‘Alee ibn AsbaaT, he is 100% thiqah, but people have differed on his madhhab. However, Al-Khoei said that ‘Alee ibn AsbaaT is a Shee’ah Imaamee and his madhhab is good. (See: Al-Khoei, Mu’jam Rijaal Al-Hadeeth, vol. 11, pg. 260, under person # 7923)

So this hadeeth is actually graded as purely SaHeeH

And here is what Al-Toosee says about what the four (4) fingers should be.و يرفع من الأرض مقدار أربع أصابع و لا يطرح فيه من غير ترابه
Graves should be four fingers above the ground, no dirt other other than the dirt of grave should be placed on it
Source:Al-Toosi, Al-MabsooT fee fiqh Imaamiyyah, vol. 1, pg. 187
أحمد بن محمد البرقي في ( المحاسن ) عن أبيه ، عن النضر بن سويد ، مثله.

وعن يوسف بن عقيل ، عن محمد بن قيس ، عن أبي جعفر ( عليه السلام ) ، مثله.

also it says
وعن علي بن إبراهيم، عن أبيه، عن ابن أبي عمير، عن حماد بن عثمان، عن أبي عبد الله (عليه السلام) قال: إن أبي قال لي ذات يوم في مرضه: إذ أنا مت فغسلني وكفني، وارفع قبري أربع أصابع، ورشه بالماء، الحديث
And from Ali b. Ibrahim, from his father, from ibn Abi Umayr, from Hammad b. Uthman, from Abi Abdullah [Ja'far Al Sadiq] (as) said: My father(as) said to myself in day of illness: When I die bathe me and shroud me, and raise my grave by four fingers, and sprinkle with water. [Wasail Al Shia with Sahih Sanad]

Yet the dai builds shrines!

[Muslim First]

Br Beirutscholar
AS

Morela Burhnuddin Saheb is "God on Earth"

What you posted does not apply to him.

[murtaza2152]

Br Beirutscholar
AS

Syedna Burhnuddin Saheb is "God on Earth"

What you posted does not apply to him.

Exactly.......

Any Amal he does is Willl of God.....

[murtaza2152]

Lol,,, he is quoting from Allama Majlisis book,,,,,
bro we do not believe him as he told our Imam Ismail was drunkard....(Nauzobillah)

[Muslim First]

Muslim First wrote:
Br Beirutscholar
AS

Morela Burhnuddin Saheb is "God on Earth"

What you posted does not apply to him.

murtaza2152 on Sat Apr 02, 2011 3:28 am

Exactly.......

Any Amal he does is Willl of God.....

Yes that also includes public cursing which caused riots in Bombay resulting in death and distruction of Bohra life and property.

He had to issue written apology.

Murtu says
Any Amal he does is Willl of God.....

Murtu, Please explain.

Why mercifull Allah misguided his only representative on the earht and caused death of his true beievers?

[murtaza2152]

Yes that also includes public cursing which caused riots in Bombay resulting in death and distruction of Bohra life and property.

He had to issue written apology.

Murtu says
Any Amal he does is Willl of God.....

Murtu, Please explain.

Why mercifull Allah misguided his only representative on the earht and caused death of his true beievers?

He was/is not misguided,we say Khuda ni Lanat on your Hazrats in every waaz,,but that time it was picked up by some Munafiqs of our own community and matter was raised to Sunnis ,,,,he apologized because of security of mumineen and mumineen very well know this.......
and those who lost lives were Shaheeds in path of DaiAllah il Ameen......one advice dont put your head in such topics u will not understand them, as u are Praiser of Three Maloons,,,,and also one Maloonat

[anajmi]

That is a lame brain excuse. Bush claimed that his soldiers who died in Iraq were protecting American freedom and Saddam claimed that the people that died under his rule are all Shaheeds in the path Allah. That doesn't mean jack!! Atleast Saddam was brave enough to hang without saying sorry. Your Syedna had to apologize. And he didn't apologize to save bohra life and property. He would've stayed away from making such nonsense comments if he cared about bohra life and property. He is ghaib na jaankar isn't he? He should've known what is going to happen.

[Muslim First]

He was/is not misguided,we say Khuda ni Lanat on your Hazrats in every waaz,,

So he does this in every waez and it is part of Bohra religion to do so.

And therefore your Morela is hypocrite of highest order. He says one thing in public and other in masjid.

So it looks like you guys and your Morela do not have balls to say publically what your true belief are.

[profastian]

He was/is not misguided,we say Khuda ni Lanat on your Hazrats in every waaz,,

So he does this in every waez and it is part of Bohra religion to do so.

And therefore your Morela is hypocrite of highest order. He says one thing in public and other in masjid.

So it looks like you guys and your Morela do not have balls to say publically what your true belief are.

Try going in a Hindu temple and cursing their idols. We will see how much balls you have. Allah curses idol worshippers , doesn't he?

[Muslim First]

Try going in a Hindu temple and cursing their idols. We will see how much balls you have. Allah curses idol worshippers , doesn't he?

You do not have to go in their temple and curse their Gods, Hindu know very well that Muslim consider Idol worshipping a sin. And if Allah curses Idol Worshippers that does not mean Muslims should do so. We do not even curse Hindus secretly in our Masjid. We have better things to do then waste time and affort. For that matter we do not even curse Idol worshipping Bohras, we leave them and their goobly gook religin alone.

[anajmi]

Try going in a Hindu temple and cursing their idols. We will see how much balls you have.

That is precisely what ordinary humans would avoid you moron. Your Dai is nothing but an ordinary human who doesn't have any more balls than any other one of you. Prophet Muhammad (saw) claimed right in the middle of Mecca and right in the middle of idol worshippers that what they were doing was wrong. He was not an ordinary human. Prophet Abraham, destroyed the idols of the idol worshippers of that time. He was no ordinary human. Your Dai had to apologize for his words and now says them behind closed doors. He is an ordinary human!!

[Doctor]

He was/is not misguided,we say Khuda ni Lanat on your Hazrats in every waaz,,but that time it was picked up by some Munafiqs of our own community and matter was raised to Sunnis ,,,,he apologized because of security of mumineen and mumineen very well know this.......
and those who lost lives were Shaheeds in path of DaiAllah il Ameen......one advice dont put your head in such topics u will not understand them, as u are Praiser of Three Maloons,,,,and also one Maloonat

In reference to laanat on Awwal, Sani and Salis

Molana Qutbuddin Shaheed (r.a.) sacrificed his head but didn't tender apology to Sunni's.

Sheikh Ali ibn Mukasir Sayyedi va Molai Khan Ji ibn Pheer Ji sacrificed his life but didn't tender apology to Sunni's.

Likewise, Mola'e Raj (r.a.) sacrificed his life but didn't tender apology.

But, Burhanuddin sahab, acted opposite to the established practice of Dai's/spritual leaders and let his followers to get martyr, saved his own life and tendered apology to Sunni's!!!

[anajmi]

These people didn't sacrifice their lives. They wasted their lives.

[incredible]

These people didn't sacrifice their lives. They wasted their lives.

you are wasting your life by supporting and defending killer of daughter of Muhammed rasullullah(saw)

[Muslim First]

First of all nobody has proof who killed Bibi Fatema or what killed her.

Secondly it is waste of time to dwell on it or speculate about it.

Thirdly you do not get goody points by praizing, supporting or cursing dead personality.

Fourthly your salvations strictly depends on your deed.

Fifth: As a Muslim you are requred only to follow pillars of Islam faithfully

Those who spend life praising demigods or cursing are wasting their life.

[anajmi]

you are wasting your life by supporting and defending killer of daughter of Muhammed rasullullah(saw)

In that case, even Hazrat Ali wasted his life by supporting him.

[Muslim First]

And he gave his daughter in marriage to murderer of his wife!!!!!

[porus]

And he gave his daughter in marriage to murderer of his wife!!!!!

Scholars dispute if Umm Kulthum that Umar married was in fact the daughter of Ali and Fatima. Umar's marriage to Umm Kulthum occured in 637 CE when he was 55 years old. Ali's daughter was born in 624 CE and would have been 13 at the time of her marriage to Umar.

While Sunnis do not concur on her identity, the Shia categorically deny that Ali's daughter was married to Umar. According to the Shia Muharram traditions, Umm Kulthum, along with her sister Zaynab, was present in Karbala with Imam Husain.

[anajmi]

the Shia categorically deny that Ali's daughter was married to Umar.

Other than Shia hatred for Hazrat Umar, is there a reason for that? Do the shia know for sure which Umm Kulthum it was, that was married to Hazrat Umar?

[ghulam muhammed]

While Sunnis do not concur on her identity, the Shia categorically deny that Ali's daughter was married to Umar.

Mola Ali (a.s.) gave his eldest daughter, Umme Kulsum (r.a.) in marriage to Hazrat Umar (r.a.). Umme Kulsum (r.a.) was the eldest daughter of Molatena Fatima (a.s.). This act of Mola Ali (a.s.) completely confuses the Shias and entirely repudiates the Shia doctrine of hatred for the Sahabah in general and for Hazrat Umar (r.a.) in particular. Shia priests are at pains and to this day remain in the grip of mental labor pains attempting to explain away and misinterpret this act of Mola Ali (a.s.).

They have been thrown into total disarray and confusion by the marriage of Mola Ali's daughter to Hazrat Umar. In struggling to explain away this indictment against Shi'ism, the Shia priests resort to a variety of Taqiyah Tricks. But, far from satisfactorily explaining this truth, they only succeed in compounding their confusion and exhibiting their mental absurdity.

How was it possible for Mola Ali (a.s.) to have consented to his daughter marrying Hazrat Umar (r.a.) whom Shi'ism unanimously brands as a munafiq, kafir, murtad, murderer, oppressor and a multitude of other vile epithets? Indeed, this holy marriage is perpetually dangling on the necks of the Shia priests like a dead albatross which they are unable to shed off - with which they have to live and be haunted.

Among the most ludicrous explanations fabricated by the Shias to argue away this historical fact, Rawindi the ' Qutubul Aqtab' of the Shias claims that when Hazrat Umar (r.a.) pressurized and threatened Mola Ali (a.s.) to consent to this marriage with Umme Kulsum, he (Ali) miraculously transformed a female Jinn into the form, and appearance of Kulsum. Thus, Hazrat Umar (r.a.) married this female Jinn while the real Umme Kulsum remained in concealment. Only plunderers of Imaan could fabricate such nonsensical absurdity. This alleged miraculous transformation of the female Jinn is described in detail in the Shiah book, Mawaiz-e-Husainiyah.

Regarding this marriage, Abu Ja'far Yaqub Kaleeni, claims in his book Furoo'Kafi (an authoritative book of the Shias) that Hazrat Umar (r.a.) did not marry Umme Kulsum, but abducted her by force. According to these miserable Shia slanderers, Hazrat Umar captured her by force and fornicated with her (Nauzubillah!) and kept her in captivity against her wishes and without having performed nikah with her. Thus, then, is the reasoning of minds impregnated with kufr.

[porus]

While the Shia clearly have a motive for denying that Ali's daughter married Umar, I am more interested in determining if the scholars who have no axe to grind have a say in the matter.

I would discard the stories of female djinns and abductions as unworthy of genuine scholarship. The best we can say is that the jury of scholars is out as to the real identity of Umm Kulthum that Umar married. She may or may not have been Ali and Fatima's daughter.

[ghulam muhammed]

To marry Umm-e-Kulsoom (r.a) with Umar (r.a) was a subterfuge on the part of Ali (r.a) (Na’uzubillah). [Anwaar-ul-Na'umania, Vol#1, Pg#81-82 - Published Iran]

[anajmi]

The scholars who have no axe to grind would be Sunni scholars. They respect Hazrat Ali just as much as Hazrat Umar and the other 2 khalifas and Hazrat Aisha. I would give their word more weight. I think most of those scholars agree that the Umm Kulthum referred to in this case is Hazrat Ali's daughter. Allah knows best.

[asif786]

While Sunnis do not concur on her identity, the Shia categorically deny that Ali's daughter was married to Umar.

Mola Ali (a.s.) gave his eldest daughter, Umme Kulsum (r.a.) in marriage to Hazrat Umar (r.a.). Umme Kulsum (r.a.) was the eldest daughter of Molatena Fatima (a.s.). This act of Mola Ali (a.s.) completely confuses the Shias and entirely repudiates the Shia doctrine of hatred for the Sahabah in general and for Hazrat Umar (r.a.) in particular. Shia priests are at pains and to this day remain in the grip of mental labor pains attempting to explain away and misinterpret this act of Mola Ali (a.s.).

They have been thrown into total disarray and confusion by the marriage of Mola Ali's daughter to Hazrat Umar. In struggling to explain away this indictment against Shi'ism, the Shia priests resort to a variety of Taqiyah Tricks. But, far from satisfactorily explaining this truth, they only succeed in compounding their confusion and exhibiting their mental absurdity.

How was it possible for Mola Ali (a.s.) to have consented to his daughter marrying Hazrat Umar (r.a.) whom Shi'ism unanimously brands as a munafiq, kafir, murtad, murderer, oppressor and a multitude of other vile epithets? Indeed, this holy marriage is perpetually dangling on the necks of the Shia priests like a dead albatross which they are unable to shed off - with which they have to live and be haunted.

Among the most ludicrous explanations fabricated by the Shias to argue away this historical fact, Rawindi the ' Qutubul Aqtab' of the Shias claims that when Hazrat Umar (r.a.) pressurized and threatened Mola Ali (a.s.) to consent to this marriage with Umme Kulsum, he (Ali) miraculously transformed a female Jinn into the form, and appearance of Kulsum. Thus, Hazrat Umar (r.a.) married this female Jinn while the real Umme Kulsum remained in concealment. Only plunderers of Imaan could fabricate such nonsensical absurdity. This alleged miraculous transformation of the female Jinn is described in detail in the Shiah book, Mawaiz-e-Husainiyah.

Regarding this marriage, Abu Ja'far Yaqub Kaleeni, claims in his book Furoo'Kafi (an authoritative book of the Shias) that Hazrat Umar (r.a.) did not marry Umme Kulsum, but abducted her by force. According to these miserable Shia slanderers, Hazrat Umar captured her by force and fornicated with her (Nauzubillah!) and kept her in captivity against her wishes and without having performed nikah with her. Thus, then, is the reasoning of minds impregnated with kufr.

How can Ali a.s marry his daughter umm kulsum to Umar ? Umar was Rasullahs father in law ( father of Hafsa) so he was grandfather of Fatema zahra s.a , so in relation he was great grand father of Umm kulsum . This marriage is haraam in islam . Umm Kulsum was married to Son of Jafar tayyar .

[profastian]

Mola Ali (a.s.) gave his eldest daughter, Umme Kulsum (r.a.) in marriage to Hazrat Umar (r.a.). Umme Kulsum (r.a.) was the eldest daughter of Molatena Fatima (a.s.). This act of Mola Ali (a.s.) completely confuses the Shias and entirely repudiates the Shia doctrine of hatred for the Sahabah in general and for Hazrat Umar (r.a.) in particular. Shia priests are at pains and to this day remain in the grip of mental labor pains attempting to explain away and misinterpret this act of Mola Ali (a.s.).

They have been thrown into total disarray and confusion by the marriage of Mola Ali's daughter to Hazrat Umar. In struggling to explain away this indictment against Shi'ism, the Shia priests resort to a variety of Taqiyah Tricks. But, far from satisfactorily explaining this truth, they only succeed in compounding their confusion and exhibiting their mental absurdity.

How was it possible for Mola Ali (a.s.) to have consented to his daughter marrying Hazrat Umar (r.a.) whom Shi'ism unanimously brands as a munafiq, kafir, murtad, murderer, oppressor and a multitude of other vile epithets? Indeed, this holy marriage is perpetually dangling on the necks of the Shia priests like a dead albatross which they are unable to shed off - with which they have to live and be haunted.

Among the most ludicrous explanations fabricated by the Shias to argue away this historical fact, Rawindi the ' Qutubul Aqtab' of the Shias claims that when Hazrat Umar (r.a.) pressurized and threatened Mola Ali (a.s.) to consent to this marriage with Umme Kulsum, he (Ali) miraculously transformed a female Jinn into the form, and appearance of Kulsum. Thus, Hazrat Umar (r.a.) married this female Jinn while the real Umme Kulsum remained in concealment. Only plunderers of Imaan could fabricate such nonsensical absurdity. This alleged miraculous transformation of the female Jinn is described in detail in the Shiah book, Mawaiz-e-Husainiyah.

Regarding this marriage, Abu Ja'far Yaqub Kaleeni, claims in his book Furoo'Kafi (an authoritative book of the Shias) that Hazrat Umar (r.a.) did not marry Umme Kulsum, but abducted her by force. According to these miserable Shia slanderers, Hazrat Umar captured her by force and fornicated with her (Nauzubillah!) and kept her in captivity against her wishes and without having performed nikah with her. Thus, then, is the reasoning of minds impregnated with kufr.

How can Ali a.s marry his daughter umm kulsum to Umar ? Umar was Rasullahs father in law ( father of Hafsa) so he was grandfather of Fatema zahra s.a , so in relation he was great grand father of Umm kulsum . This marriage is haraam in islam . Umm Kulsum was married to Son of Jafar tayyar .

Well actually he was not There was no blood relation. Fatima was not a daugther of Hafsa but Khadija... So no relationship with Umar.
How can there be. Fatima the greatest of all women who ever lived, can ever be related to Umar...

[Doctor]

He was/is not misguided,we say Khuda ni Lanat on your Hazrats in every waaz,,but that time it was picked up by some Munafiqs of our own community and matter was raised to Sunnis ,,,,he apologized because of security of mumineen and mumineen very well know this.......
and those who lost lives were Shaheeds in path of DaiAllah il Ameen......one advice dont put your head in such topics u will not understand them, as u are Praiser of Three Maloons,,,,and also one Maloonat

In reference to laanat on Awwal, Sani and Salis

Molana Qutbuddin Shaheed (r.a.) sacrificed his head but didn't tender apology to Sunni's.

Sheikh Ali ibn Mukasir Sayyedi va Molai Khan Ji ibn Pheer Ji sacrificed his life but didn't tender apology to Sunni's.

Likewise, Mola'e Raj (r.a.) sacrificed his life but didn't tender apology.

But, Burhanuddin sahab, acted opposite to the established practice of Dai's/spritual leaders and left his followers to get martyr, saved his own life and tendered apology to Sunni's!!!

Burhanuddin sahab claims he is slave of Imam Hussain (a.s.) however he doesn't follow the example of his master: Imam Hussain (a.s.) sacrificed his life but didn't tender apology to Sunni leader Yazeed to save his own and his followers life. Likewise, Imam Hasan (a.s.) sacrifieced his life but didn't tender apology to Sunni leader Mawiya.

Burhanuddin sahab, saved his own life, left his follower to die and against the established practice of Molana Qutbuddin Shaheed (r.a.), Imam Hussain (a.s.), etc tendered apology to Sunni's!!!

Apology is tendered when one makes mistakes. 'Masoom' never makes mistakes. Burhanuddin sahab tendering apology (record present in the multimedia section of this website) clearly infers Burhanuddin sahab is not Masoom.

[murtaza2152]

Doctor Mubarak,,,

You are not a Dawoodi Bohra, as u believe Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin tus is Dai Nazim.............(it is clear from your posts see http://dawoodi-bohras.com/forum/viewtop ... zim#p63904 ,http://dawoodi-bohras.com/forum/viewtop ... im#p65542)

So all Mumineens on this forum are not interested in talking with you............
Firstly accept our Faith........

[Doctor]

Doctor Mubarak,,,

You are not a Dawoodi Bohra, as u believe Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin tus is Dai Nazim.............(it is clear from your posts see http://dawoodi-bohras.com/forum/viewtop ... zim#p63904 ,http://dawoodi-bohras.com/forum/viewtop ... im#p65542)

So all Mumineens on this forum are not interested in talking with you............
Firstly accept our Faith........

Murtaza bhai,

After writing above post, you, yourself took three times interest in talking with me!!!

[ANA BOHRI]

Doctor Mubarak,,,

You are not a Dawoodi Bohra, as u believe Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin tus is Dai Nazim.............(it is clear from your posts see http://dawoodi-bohras.com/forum/viewtop ... zim#p63904 ,http://dawoodi-bohras.com/forum/viewtop ... im#p65542)

So all Mumineens on this forum are not interested in talking with you............
Firstly accept our Faith........

Mr Murtaza

Please keep this crap of dawoodi bohra or not dawoodi bohra with you .If you have any counter reply on what he is saying just post it...don't act like a child...people visiting this site are matured enough to take criticism from every one whether he is shia,sunni,agha khani aur bohris.

[porus]

While Sunnis do not concur on her identity, the Shia categorically deny that Ali's daughter was married to Umar.

How can Ali a.s marry his daughter umm kulsum to Umar ? Umar was Rasullahs father in law ( father of Hafsa) so he was grandfather of Fatema zahra s.a , so in relation he was great grand father of Umm kulsum . This marriage is haraam in islam . Umm Kulsum was married to Son of Jafar tayyar .

Well argued point asif. Neither Ali nor Umar would have allowed this marriage.