Ikhwan ul safa and Ismailism

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SBM
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Re: Ikhwan ul safa and Ismailism

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Unread post by SBM » Wed Jul 29, 2015 11:08 am

and aren't you the one who views everything with JUST hate
And giving Laanat to your blood relative and to a Mazoon for 50 years is sign of LOVE in SMS camp..

ghulam muhammed
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Re: Ikhwan ul safa and Ismailism

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Wed Jul 29, 2015 4:59 pm

true_bohra wrote:and aren't you the one who views everything with JUST hate
There is a vast difference between "Hate" and "Criticism", criticising someone for his wrongful acts is fundamental in any democracy but alas the slaves (abdes) can never comprehend democracy.

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Re: Ikhwan ul safa and Ismailism

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Unread post by true_bohra » Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:01 am

ghulam muhammed wrote:
true_bohra wrote:and aren't you the one who views everything with JUST hate
There is a vast difference between "Hate" and "Criticism", criticising someone for his wrongful acts is fundamental in any democracy but alas the slaves (abdes) can never comprehend democracy.
First of all faith is never governed by democracy. And I know you would repeat the same things that how can the orthodox accept the democracy. Cant help it with that...

and yes criticism can be accepted but judge your replies first....are they always criticizing or are always cited with HATE??

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Re: Ikhwan ul safa and Ismailism

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Jul 30, 2015 5:42 pm

true_bohra wrote:First of all faith is never governed by democracy.
Do you know that in the earlier days Muslims could ask any questions to Prophet (s.a.w.) ?? Now this is called freedom of speech...... Can you ask your master where he spends the money looted from Bohras in the name of zakat etc ??
true_bohra wrote:and yes criticism can be accepted but judge your replies first....are they always criticizing or are always cited with HATE??
STRONG Criticism sounds like hate to you.... I cant help it !!

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Re: Ikhwan ul safa and Ismailism

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Mon Nov 30, 2015 7:09 pm

In this video, Dr. Abbas Hamdani, Professor of Emeritus University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee explains Ikhwan-us-Safa also called 52 Risalat or Epistle. He has done extensive work books related to Ismaili (Bohra) literature. He has wrtten AN ISLAMIC BACKGROUND TO THE VOYAGES OF DISCOVERY ABBAS HAMDANI

In the middle is seated Dr. Ismail Poonawala, Professor of Arabic & Islamic Studies, UCLA, Los Angeles, California. He has done extensive work on literature related Fatimid period. He has thoroughly revised original English translation of Daim al Islam (The Pillars of Islam) by Dr. AAA Fayzee and published it few years ago. It was very popular; it was reprinted twice. He also has written many articles on issues related to Bohra faith. He has addressed many conferences on Qur'an held in in many western countries and Middle East.

This video was produced several years ago when these two Bohra luminaries were invited to shed light on Ikhwan-us-Safa and other religious matters matters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7OKN5J98kg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvKwTWXRezU