Can progressive offer free food Service to their people?

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Can progressive offer free food Service to their people?

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Unread post by shabbir4u » Thu Sep 08, 2011 5:49 pm

Just like to know Can progressive dawoodi bohra can offer free food to their people? Like what Aqa Maula is doing for the Mumineen.

What kind of help Progressive dawoodi bohra did to their people in what way?

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Sep 08, 2011 6:20 pm

shabbir4u wrote:Just like to know Can progressive dawoodi bohra can offer free food to their people? Like what Aqa Maula is doing for the Mumineen.
Pay a visit to kandivli jamat office and see for yourself as to how abdes are buying units of Rs.1,100/- in bulk for providing this so called free service. Even if mola puts some amount from his own pocket (which is anyway collected from his followers) it is like Mukesh Ambani whose business empire is worth more then Rs.75,000 crores giving 10 paise to a beggar.

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Unread post by Smart » Fri Sep 09, 2011 5:29 am

shabbir4u wrote:Just like to know Can progressive dawoodi bohra can offer free food to their people? Like what Aqa Maula is doing for the Mumineen.

What kind of help Progressive dawoodi bohra did to their people in what way?
Oh! So it is the free food that keeps you tied to the establishment? How can food be free, when you have to buy it in exchange for your self respect and dignity? Money is not the only medium of exchange.

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Unread post by shabbir4u » Fri Sep 09, 2011 11:09 am

This is not the answer Mr GM & Smart.
What Aqa maula is doing not any community can do it. I would pay even Rs 1100.00 if jamaat is charging because is like ready food you dont have to go market to by veg,cook food, its home del.when we go to fast food place it cost 250.00 for two people.do you think Rs1100.00 its worth for 30 days.
Long live Aqa maula.
I understand you PD has no word to say I understand you will come up with some thing for another just to cover your pd ......

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Unread post by SBM » Fri Sep 09, 2011 12:07 pm

So Shabbir4U
Let us once again clarify "Is this service is to to feed poor Mumin or is this another Catering Service"?
WHAT WAS THE INTENT OF THIS ENTIRE PROGRAM? SIMPLE ANSWER OF to serve poor or another business venture after Noorani toilet,travel and real estate.

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Unread post by Maqbool » Sat Sep 10, 2011 1:11 am

shabbir4u wrote:This is not the answer Mr GM & Smart.
What Aqa maula is doing not any community can do it. I would pay even Rs 1100.00 if jamaat is charging because is like ready food you dont have to go market to by veg,cook food, its home del.when we go to fast food place it cost 250.00 for two people.do you think Rs1100.00 its worth for 30 days.
Long live Aqa maula.
I understand you PD has no word to say I understand you will come up with some thing for another just to cover your pd ......
There is no argument here. Shabbir4u and Mustafa nalwala has clarified the motive. Is this is a service to poor?

And by the way from where these poor has popped up when they where nowhere in our community!!!!

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Unread post by israfild » Sat Sep 10, 2011 10:06 am

Assalam alaikum,

I have heard that all the well-to-do have been "suggested" to buy at least 1 tiffin for the poor which the poor get for free???

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Unread post by SBM » Sat Sep 10, 2011 10:35 am

by israfild on Sat Sep 10, 2011 2:06 pm
Assalam alaikum,

I have heard that all the well-to-do have been "suggested" to buy at least 1 tiffin for the poor which the poor get for free???
If that is the case then why this idea of tiffin or thali services in Columbus Ohio and in Orange County California, to my knowledge, there are no poor in these two places.
http://www.zeninfosys.net/zi6/content/n ... california

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Unread post by shabbir4u » Sat Sep 10, 2011 12:18 pm

omabharti wrote:
by israfild on Sat Sep 10, 2011 2:06 pm
Assalam alaikum,

I have heard that all the well-to-do have been "suggested" to buy at least 1 tiffin for the poor which the poor get for free???
If that is the case then why this idea of tiffin or thali services in Columbus Ohio and in Orange County California, to my knowledge, there are no poor in these two places.
http://www.zeninfosys.net/zi6/content/n ... california
How you know their is no poor people in Columbus or california.If you are well off that does not mean every one is well off. I know there are few families in Atlanta are not well off.If some one offer tiffin to these families they might accept it. I would give you my suggestion if some one offer tiffin to me I would accept it.Even by dua of Aqa Maula we have busniess its salwat food and its By Aqa maula. If Father offer food to his child will child refuse to take it from his father? And in this case there is no POOR or RICH in this tiffin all food its same who eats it RICH OR POOR. Its is you Progressive made it RICH N POOR. But in the eye of Aqa maula we are the children.

Long live AQA Maula.

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Unread post by SBM » Sat Sep 10, 2011 12:31 pm

I know there are no poor families in Columbus Ohio and Orange County because I know people in those parts of USA.
A father does not ask his poor children to pay 1100 to get the food if the father is well to do and rich.
You still did not answer the question, Is this scheme for poor?

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Unread post by shabbir4u » Sat Sep 10, 2011 1:41 pm

omabharti wrote:I know there are no poor families in Columbus Ohio and Orange County because I know people in those parts of USA.
A father does not ask his poor children to pay 1100 to get the food if the father is well to do and rich.
You still did not answer the question, Is this scheme for poor?
No this Scheme is not for poor nor a busniess.You can get tiffin if you want. You cannot get every thing in to your mouth you have to work for it.Even if some one is rich he will make sure s/he can pay what he want. You should learn to work not to beg like beggears.

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Unread post by shabbir4u » Sat Sep 10, 2011 1:43 pm

omabharti wrote:I know there are no poor families in Columbus Ohio and Orange County because I know people in those parts of USA.
A father does not ask his poor children to pay 1100 to get the food if the father is well to do and rich.
You still did not answer the question, Is this scheme for poor?
Omabharti

How you know there is no poor families in columbus or Orange county.Do you reside in those county.

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Unread post by SBM » Sat Sep 10, 2011 1:52 pm

Omabharti

How you know there is no poor families in columbus or Orange county.Do you reside in those county.
How do you know there is Jahannam have you been there,
Didnot I write that I have friends in those part of USA and they belong to Jamaat

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Unread post by SBM » Sat Sep 10, 2011 1:54 pm

You should learn to work not to beg like beggears.
Can you teach that to Kothari Goons, learn to work
You cannot get every thing in to your mouth you have to work for it
Well Kothari Goons do get it thru Ziyafats, they get everything in their mouth without working.

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Unread post by shabbir4u » Sat Sep 10, 2011 2:12 pm

omabharti wrote:
You should learn to work not to beg like beggears.
Can you teach that to Kothari Goons, learn to work
You cannot get every thing in to your mouth you have to work for it
Well Kothari Goons do get it thru Ziyafats, they get everything in their mouth without working.
Well my friend now you changing the topic.
why you care for kothari goons about work or ziyafats.
Do you contribute to them ? if you why ? give me simple answer pls dont change topic. fiest you ask for poor people now you moving to kothari goons see where you moving.

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Unread post by Kaka Akela » Sat Sep 10, 2011 3:24 pm

Dear all curious people:
Let me explain clearly this scheme. Mufaddal Maula has prayed that not one single momin should go to bed hungry and devised this scheme that if 5 well-to-do momin pay certain amount then 10 momin can eat from this money (5 well-to-do + 5 poor). Everyone registers to receive thaali or tiffin with one person who is not aware of who is paying and who is not paying. Those who are paying will pay to a second person who shall not disclose the names of the payers, also he is not aware of who has registered to receive the tiffin. This way no one feels embarassed in receiving the food, The 5 well-to-do people will also collect their tiffin on a normal basis unless they give the authority to give his tiffin to some one else. I don't think there is any money involved from Kothat or Qasr e aali or Shahzada sahebs, it is self sustaining scheme helping each other.
I hope I made it as clear as mud for you all.

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Unread post by SBM » Sat Sep 10, 2011 3:34 pm

also he is not aware of who has registered to receive the tiffin. This way no one feels embarassed in receiving the food,
Go to Zeninfosys and you can see the pictures of the people receiving the tiffins so there goes the theory of embarrassing the receivers.

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Unread post by SBM » Sat Sep 10, 2011 3:38 pm

Shabbir4U
why you care for kothari goons about work or ziyafats.
You cannot get every thing in to your mouth you have to work for it
Both the quotes are from you. do you see some kind of contradiction in these two quotes?

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Unread post by shabbir4u » Sat Sep 10, 2011 3:57 pm

Omabharti

Why you getting so hyper.If you do get tifffin I will pay for your tiffin.just Do you want me to contact your atlanta jamaat for you. :D

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Unread post by SBM » Sat Sep 10, 2011 4:58 pm

Shabbir4U
Why not, atleast I will finally get something for free :lol:

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Unread post by ozmujaheed » Sat Sep 10, 2011 6:09 pm

Oma there is nothing free

Mufadal has grasped the age old bohra weakness

Jaman for the men such that spicy food that their wives would have not cooked so well

Wives also happy they have their burden relieved and can keep the kitchen cool

Finally a few well fed burping abdes to relay the propoganda that how much nemat was received.

About it being free some where somewhere will pay as najwa, sabeel, unit, wajebat

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Unread post by shabbir4u » Sat Sep 10, 2011 6:51 pm

omabharti wrote:Shabbir4U
Why not, atleast I will finally get something for free :lol:
So tell me my friend where you want your tiffin :D

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Unread post by SBM » Sat Sep 10, 2011 7:36 pm

So tell me my friend where you want your tiffin
I thought you knew in ATLANTA as you said in your previous posts :o

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Unread post by shabbir4u » Sun Sep 11, 2011 11:23 am

omabharti wrote:
So tell me my friend where you want your tiffin
I thought you knew in ATLANTA as you said in your previous posts :o
I ask you where you want your tiffin at

Home or office? :D

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Unread post by SBM » Sun Sep 11, 2011 11:48 am

I ask you where you want your tiffin at

Home or office? :D
whatever is convenient to you. How soon should I expect the delivery? since there has been no Maajlis lately and I am missing my 2 Kharas and 2 Mithas :roll:

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Unread post by shabbir4u » Sun Sep 11, 2011 3:02 pm

So give me your Address. Without address How Can I deliver your 2 kharas and 2 mithas your food is getting cold.

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Unread post by SBM » Sun Sep 11, 2011 3:20 pm

I will save you the trouble just give me your address and time and I will have my diwan pick it up. :lol:

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Unread post by shabbir4u » Mon Sep 12, 2011 7:01 pm

omabharti wrote:I will save you the trouble just give me your address and time and I will have my diwan pick it up. :lol:
NO My friend, I will come to your place and drop it.You will save gas and time. So pls pls pls give me your address so kidmatjuzar will come and drop it to your address.Dont worry we will not disclose your name to amil as you have two face. enjoy dude 2 khars and mithas by Aqa Maula :D

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Unread post by Biradar » Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:39 pm

The reason for this food service is simple. See, Beloved Mola Mansus Mola Muffadul Mola Saifudin Mola (TUS, RA, SAW, DM, MKD, NKD, NDI) is the malik of our jaan, maal and jism. He has already taken care of our jaan by promising us janaat, he owns our maal already and partakes of it when he so desires.

The missing piece was our jsim. Now, this food service takes care of that. He not only feeds our jaan with haqaiq ilm but our jism with jamaan. What greater mola (TUS, RA, SAW, etc) do we mumineen need? He takes care of us here and also in janaat. You progressive fools will never understand the aali shaan, aali waqar of our Beloved Mola Mansu Mola (TUS, SAW, RA, etc). You will go hungry in this world and also the next.

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Unread post by SBM » Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:49 pm

enjoy dude 2 khars and mithas by Aqa Maula :D
If it is from Moula then why ask people to buy UNITS :roll: