Practice Of Female Circumcision Among Bohra Muslims.

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Ozdundee
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Re: Practice Of Female Circumcision Among Bohra Muslims.

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Unread post by Ozdundee » Tue Aug 20, 2019 3:06 am

High Court still deliberating it could go either way

Retrial
Suppress court of appeals and charge as guilty
Acquittal

7 most senior judges on bench.

Headed by lady Chief Justice. There are 3 lady judges.

Can you imagine the expression and thinking when these senior ladies sat and prosecution went through details of the barbaric practice. They must have been wondering who is SMS.

A question was asked about Sunnah by one of the judges, the prosecutors brushed it this is not widespread Muslim practice Bohras interpretation is misleading.

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Unread post by Ozdundee » Tue Sep 17, 2019 4:35 pm

Washington — A federal court has denied House Democrats' request to intervene in the appeal of a Michigan criminal case to defend the constitutionality of the federal law prohibiting female genital mutilation.
Bohra kothar may think it is winning court battles but such defeats help win in general public opinion. Keeps the issue in broader discussion.

Watch this space in USA and Australia.

Australia high court decision is pending still.

Hamare har bhi jeet he.

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Re: Practice Of Female Circumcision Among Bohra Muslims.

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Unread post by Bohra spring » Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:23 pm

How many like Oz are there around ...

Inspiring and bringing down dictators
The whistleblower's identity remains obscured, the details of his work for the CIA cloaked in secrecy. But the document he delivered reveals almost as much about the investigative mission he carried out in stealth as it does about the alleged abuses of power by the President.

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Re: Practice Of Female Circumcision Among Bohra Muslims.

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Unread post by ajamali » Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:36 pm

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Looks like a victory for the wizard of oz

Ozdundee
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Unread post by Ozdundee » Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:55 pm

Australian Government appeal at High Court of Australia has been victorious.

Dawoodi Bohra attempt to use Court of Appeal decision to not charge Dawoodi Bohra practice as a crime has been overturned.

Dawaat has lost face, money and is guilty.

Allah has sided with justice. Shame on Bohras to have wasted millions of dollars to protect their cult and ego.

We share the victory with the few who stayed the course and fought it through to the end even when India and USA folded. There will be no publicity or accolades. We did for our daughters and grand daughters.

My chapter will close. For good.

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Unread post by Ozdundee » Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:07 pm

Three people charged with female genital mutilation offences against two primary school-aged sisters could face further punishment after the High Court ruled the New South Wales Court of Appeal erred in quashing their convictions.

https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2019-10- ... fmredir=sm

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Unread post by ajamali » Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:09 pm

Aussies and Kiwis are assuming the moral leadership that has been abandoned by the US. Be it Gun Control, treatment of white supremacy or FGM, they have acted in the interest of furthering progressivism.

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Re: Practice Of Female Circumcision Among Bohra Muslims.

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Unread post by juzer esmail » Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:15 am

Well done Ozdundee!

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Unread post by Ozdundee » Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:13 am

The Dawaat Lawyer a Bohra orthodox and related to the accused with deep connections in UK zadas admitted guilt of obstructing justice. He has been struck off the bar. He cannot practice law in Australia.

The price to pay for blindly following Dawaat like sheep and going against the law. He too paid a big career price.



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Unread post by SBM » Wed Oct 16, 2019 7:30 am

Thanks Br Oz for keeping up

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Unread post by Ozdundee » Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:47 am

SBM wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2019 7:30 am
Thanks Br Oz for keeping up
There are a handful of others, men and woman including yourself, who deserve recognition. They know who they are they visit this site regularly. A special lady who in her middle of night was up.

We will disappear into the sunset our job is done. Almost 10 year mission we hope to write a book and explain and be a history that changed course of our culture.
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Re: Practice Of Female Circumcision Among Bohra Muslims.

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Unread post by dal-chaval-palidu » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:30 am

Ozdundee wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:13 am
The Dawaat Lawyer a Bohra orthodox and related to the accused with deep connections in UK zadas admitted guilt of obstructing justice. He has been struck off the bar. He cannot practice law in Australia.

The price to pay for blindly following Dawaat like sheep and going against the law. He too paid a big career price.
If he admitted guilt to obstructing justice (I believe that is a crime, correct?), should he not be punished for it?

Why just lose license?

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Re: Practice Of Female Circumcision Among Bohra Muslims.

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Unread post by Ozdundee » Wed Oct 16, 2019 7:00 pm

This whole issue was not personal or targeted towards individuals. I don't think the authorities wanted to punish individual . That is not western correction policy. These people were pinged so they are examples to others.

Now next time after all this if someone does it again, whole different issue. Lock them up

My interest is the system needs to change. The administration in India gets the message they have to change this practice.

But what they the dawaat did instead of working towards eradication , join hands with authorities, they went head on challenging the investigation, laws, definition, and with their deep pockets, hired lawyers after lawywrs, took on a very determined prosecution that is very skilled and experienced. They got over confident and too smart. Well I hope they have learned a lesson.
dal-chaval-palidu wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:30 am
Ozdundee wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:13 am
The Dawaat Lawyer a Bohra orthodox and related to the accused with deep connections in UK zadas admitted guilt of obstructing justice. He has been struck off the bar. He cannot practice law in Australia.

The price to pay for blindly following Dawaat like sheep and going against the law. He too paid a big career price.
If he admitted guilt to obstructing justice (I believe that is a crime, correct?), should he not be punished for it?

Why just lose license?

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Re: Practice Of Female Circumcision Among Bohra Muslims.

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Unread post by Bohra spring » Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:47 am

Where are levelhead, MYP, unhappy, someone going by m of Sayedna, ....so many abdes.

OzD and his supporters wish you all well you can retire peacefully and having made a difference against an ugly rich tyranny.

Whose chIcks are coming to roost.

Abdes don't read the court documents over and over. Guilty as charged. The photo will remain in every Western media, public are horrified ,so much tax payers funds wasted fighting this dirty cult, as these foolish clowns under guidance of their leadership who cannot stay away from children's clitoris ( admin even court talks about clitoris in their paper no censorship required). Again there is no more court process to appeal the High Court decision. The prime minister also reads the media, Queen was the prosecution. Wait until US UK Canada and India find out.

Save those samosa parties and gifts to politicians.

Imagine how if the case was won by Abdes.they would claim Bushra, Oz would be burnt alive on stakes, Maula's mojiza, Sultan of sultans, ek nazaar, sherbet daris,

level_headed wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:18 pm
It is your arrogance and shouting victory and counting your chickens before they are hatched. I have been consistently saying that Maula TUS will win because truth is with him and he is upholding Prophet SAW shariat. Australia and Detroit are proof of my argument. The Indian Supreme Court case is also not going well for you.
Now you are trying to hide with the fig leaf of false bravado and arrogance.

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Unread post by Bohra spring » Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:35 am

There is currently India Supreme Court discussion on Bohra FGM.

This is strange

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Unread post by MohammedG » Sat Jan 11, 2020 12:00 pm

Do we know what happened regarding the sentencing of the three individuals who were convicted?

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Unread post by Moiz_Dhaanu » Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:19 am

The discussion on the "Court Case" forum thread is far more relevant ..but I just wanted to bring to everybody's notice that Trump has hired the same lawyer (Alan Dershowitz)...the Muslim hater Jew , to his team to defend him during impeachment..

Its quite "Nasty" and sadistic for DMBS and Shz QJ to have hired the same guy(Dershowtiz) to defend Muffaddali Dawat , for the Michigan FGM case..

We all know what Trump stands for ..so doesn't it make it quite obvious that only the evil sides tend to hire the Devils' Advocate...
Definately a point to think about...

It tells a lot as as to what goes on in DMBS's head and to know DMBS's true sadistic nature ..when we see the kind of low scum people he hires.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ken-st ... e-team.amp

DMBS : Dawedar Mufaddal Bhai Saheb

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Unread post by zinger » Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:20 am

Moiz_Dhaanu wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:19 am
The discussion on the "Court Case" forum thread is far more relevant ..but I just wanted to bring to everybody's notice that Trump has hired the same lawyer (Alan Dershowitz)...the Muslim hater Jew , to his team to defend him during impeachment..

Its quite "Nasty" and sadistic for DMBS and Shz QJ to have hired the same guy(Dershowtiz) to defend Muffaddali Dawat , for the Michigan FGM case..

We all know what Trump stands for ..so doesn't it make it quite obvious that only the evil sides tend to hire the Devils' Advocate...
Definately a point to think about...

It tells a lot as as to what goes on in DMBS's head and to know DMBS's true sadistic nature ..when we see the kind of low scum people he hires.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ken-st ... e-team.amp

DMBS : Dawedar Mufaddal Bhai Saheb
isnt it also possible that they hired a muslim-hating jew because he is bloody good at what he does?

if the jew hates muslims so much, then why would he take the case? obviously, because of the money. why would the kothar agree to pay him so much, that he forgets his hatred of muslims? maybe because he is a firecracker in legal matters and defending his clients

and i really dont think its fair to call someone scum just because of the personal view they hold

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Unread post by UnhappyBohra » Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:29 pm

Moiz Dhanu has inadvertently stumbled upon the truth. Dershowitz is nothing but a sellout to the highest bidder. With his defense of the President he is taking the stand that using the Presidential power to pressure a foreign power to help a President politically is sanctioned by the constitution but that an impeachment of a President somehow violates the constitution.

This is such a blatantly corrupt stance that it completely brings into question the man’s integrity and his stated intent in fighting to protect FGM. He was only doing it for the money. He is most definitely corrupt to his creaky.old bones.

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Unread post by Bohra spring » Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:48 pm

Why are you surprised, thats a lawyers basic role in society.
UnhappyBohra wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:29 pm
Moiz Dhanu has inadvertently stumbled upon the truth. Dershowitz is nothing but a sellout to the highest bidder. With his defense of the President he is taking the stand that using the Presidential power to pressure a foreign power to help a President politically is sanctioned by the constitution but that an impeachment of a President somehow violates the constitution.

This is such a blatantly corrupt stance that it completely brings into question the man’s integrity and his stated intent in fighting to protect FGM. He was only doing it for the money. He is most definitely corrupt to his creaky.old bones.

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Unread post by UnhappyBohra » Sat Jan 25, 2020 5:54 am

Bohra spring wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:48 pm
Why are you surprised, thats a lawyers basic role in society.
UnhappyBohra wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:29 pm
Moiz Dhanu has inadvertently stumbled upon the truth. Dershowitz is nothing but a sellout to the highest bidder. With his defense of the President he is taking the stand that using the Presidential power to pressure a foreign power to help a President politically is sanctioned by the constitution but that an impeachment of a President somehow violates the constitution.

This is such a blatantly corrupt stance that it completely brings into question the man’s integrity and his stated intent in fighting to protect FGM. He was only doing it for the money. He is most definitely corrupt to his creaky.old bones.
Because Allen Dershowitz portrays himself as some sort of a defender of the constitution. Some high minded principled person above politics and self-interest. But turns out he is just another shyster lawyer.

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Unread post by Bohra spring » Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:25 am

Alan Dershowitz...So Sayedna selects his services and wins in Detroit

DJT also picks him , he may win too , probably has already because SMS barakat is transferable.

Bohras worldwide are proud their hard earned wajebat has been put to great cause. Its their jihad agaist western secularism and reforms.

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Unread post by Ozdundee » Sun Feb 02, 2020 6:36 am

The High Court had ruled that Dawoodi Bohra khatna is FGM and illegal, it is on record that 3 accused commited a crime. Including the lawyer who was deregistered.

The Dawaaat can reflect on the damage they inflicted on themselves and brand damage. They can now do countless lobbying to restore respect in the society , but any serious person will google it up and reconsider. There are reports law faculties and universities are already discussing the case in academic research.

The representative and followers of SMS was found as criminal and SMS is on record in Supreme Court to have rediculed.the Court process.

The prosecution decided not to follow up on resentencing due to impact on the children and likely the defence would seek a protracted retrial. Note the prosecution was more concerned about the children than the barbaric dawaaat. The point has been made.

This case was about sending a message to Dawoodi Bohra their practised is illegal and if caught again will be met with full force.

Unfortunately we all know the kothar and Amils are likely to make the mistake of playing with the law as they live in their own world. Next the case will be easier punishment severe. The Aus case is wrapped up for now.

We can truly claim MISSION ACCOMPLISHED and move on to other issues and build on the success. If I will come back it will be with a new avatar. Farewell. As we want to keep this site for future and history. I will not delete my profile.


MohammedG wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2020 12:00 pm
Do we know what happened regarding the sentencing of the three individuals who were convicted?


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Unread post by level_headed » Sat Feb 08, 2020 12:09 pm

Ozrundee- please take rebirth

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Unread post by SBM » Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:08 pm

Malaysia's anti-FGM advocates: Leave our bodies alone
Advocates for abolition of female circumcision say it has no medical benefit for women nor religious basis.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/02/ ... 06826.html

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Unread post by level_headed » Sun Feb 09, 2020 3:57 pm

A mother, a former nurse and a Sydney Islamic leader will face a retrial over claims relating to the genital mutilation of two sisters after the long-running case went to the High Court.

The trio was found guilty by a NSW Supreme Court jury in 2015, but three years later the NSW Court of Criminal Appeal quashed the convictions.

The Crown went to the High Court, which ruled the appeal court erred in acquitting them.

The case then returned to the NSW court of appeal, which on Friday ruled again to quash the convictions but said the trio should face a retrial.


The mother of the girls, who cannot be named for legal reasons, and midwife Kubra Magennis had been found guilty of "mutilating the clitoris" of the two primary school-aged sisters.

Dawoodi Bohra sect community leader Shabbir Mohammedbhai Vaziri was found guilty of being an accessory to their mutilation.


The case will go before the Supreme Court arraignments list on March 6.

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Unread post by Bohra spring » Tue Feb 11, 2020 5:39 pm

Hilarious Level dumb keep reading and waiting. Shows how shallow your intellect is.
level_headed wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2020 3:57 pm
A mother, a former nurse and a Sydney Islamic leader will face a retrial over claims relating to the genital mutilation of two sisters after the long-running case went to the High Court.

The trio was found guilty by a NSW Supreme Court jury in 2015, but three years later the NSW Court of Criminal Appeal quashed the convictions.

The Crown went to the High Court, which ruled the appeal court erred in acquitting them.

The case then returned to the NSW court of appeal, which on Friday ruled again to quash the convictions but said the trio should face a retrial.


The mother of the girls, who cannot be named for legal reasons, and midwife Kubra Magennis had been found guilty of "mutilating the clitoris" of the two primary school-aged sisters.

Dawoodi Bohra sect community leader Shabbir Mohammedbhai Vaziri was found guilty of being an accessory to their mutilation.


The case will go before the Supreme Court arraignments list on March 6.