Udaipur aamil beaten up by ortho women

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Udaipur aamil beaten up by ortho women

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Unread post by Reporter » Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:55 pm

Today, 5 Jan 2012, Udaipur aamil was beaten up by orthodox Bohras women (Shabab) for allegedly defrauding people in what could be termed as Deedargate. The aamil's residence was under siege for many hours, where hundreds of Bohras gathered, the police was called in to disperse the crowd. The incident was apparently sparked by Sayedna's visit to neighbouring Galiyakot. It is believed that 200 passes were issued to Udaipur shabab group to be distributed to Bohras for free to give them access for deedar/kadambosi of Sayedna. It is alleged that the aamil Mustafa Moyaddie and his coterie issued 2000 passes and sold them for Rs 11,000 each. The gullible abdes who bought these passes went to Galiyakot happily thinking the deedar of the dai is assured. But when they went there they were kicked out for carrying forged passes. Disappointed, scammed and enraged, they returned to Udaipur and mounted a siege on aamil's residence demanding their money back.
This incident is reminiscent of what happened nearly 40 years ago when Bohras attacked the delan setting off a revolution. Is this a new revolution in the making or just another skirmish that will be soon glossed over? Let's wait and watch.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:41 pm

"Jaisa Raja waisi Praja" or better "Jaisi Kothar waisa Aamil".

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Unread post by Muslim First » Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:49 pm

It is alleged that the aamil Mustafa Moyaddie and his coterie issued 2000 passes and sold them for Rs 11,000 each.
What Bohras are stupid? Paying 11,000 Roopies? These is definately islamic way.

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Unread post by Kaka Akela » Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:59 am

Women of the community have more or bigger balls than men. 2000-200=1800 tickets and not all 1800 were sold to women so where were men? it is a good question to ask. when will men in our community acquire balls to stand up and beat up such blatant crooks asthis Aamil???

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Unread post by allush » Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:47 am

hi brother,
some of my friends in udaipur they told me that they purchase card for 30,000 rs from aamil sahab. And they told me that this money will give to syedna sahab tus.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Jan 06, 2012 2:57 pm

allush wrote: And they told me that this money will give to syedna sahab tus.
And what will syedna do thereafter......... give it to his zaadas to take care of their extravagant lifestyles.

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Unread post by Kaka Akela » Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:40 pm

Allush, You are so gullible to believe that aamil will turn the money over to Syedna. Any crook when caught will say the same thing. Would he turn the money to Syedna at 30,000 rs rate or at 5,000 rs rate and pocket the 25,000/card???

The bigger question now is: what is Syedna or Kothar will do to this aamil for punishment?? May be promote him to a bigger jamaat to collect more & more like the Kothar decided that female Jamea student who was raped by the ustad shall marry the ustad, who was already married. They are too much in love with their own logic.

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Unread post by allush » Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:59 pm

brother, i heard that syeda saheb tus not use this money for personal use, coz whenever syedna saheb visit any city or country he donate money unexpetable, and syedna saheb always helping nature in every society. Syedna saheb start KARZNE HASANATH people use money without paying intrest. Anyhow i only know that the money which people give to syedna saheb is useful and benefit for others.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Jan 06, 2012 4:09 pm

allush,

You are living in dreamworld.

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Unread post by allush » Fri Jan 06, 2012 4:30 pm

brother GM,
Kaash aisa ho pata that its all dream, but really its not dream its HAKIKAT which i saw. EK KAHAWAT HAI (SAMJHO TO SAMJHO NAA SAMJHO TO NAA SAMJHO) OK. now its up to you that u belive syedna saheb aur not.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Jan 06, 2012 4:46 pm

allush wrote:Kaash aisa ho pata that its all dream, but really its not dream its HAKIKAT which i saw
Could you please enlighten us with your "Haqeeqat" ???

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Fri Jan 06, 2012 5:41 pm

next step?

dawate hadiyah decides to add martial arts classes to teach self-defense to all jamiya male students.

and following that?

the jamiya graduates will be posted to choice cities/towns according to their proficiency in martial arts. thus those who have attained for eg. a black belt 10th dan, will be posted to chennai or bangalore, mombasa, dar es salaam etc. those with lower grades to cities with lesser populations or places where earning potential will be lower and so on. the bohra communities in each location will be matched with the appropriate fighting skill level of the amil so that he can not only defend himself from frustrated and angry, resentful mumeen, but also be ready to unleash violent physical assaults on uncooperative abdes who refuse to pay up as demanded. in most cases, it is widely expected, the implied threat aspect of a potentially dangerous amil who could undertake crippling actions on your anatomy would force even the most recalcitrant to fall in line.

gradually this facility of self defense will be extended to committee members of all jamaats in all moze's, bilaads and vatans worldwide.

in my opinion, this assault on the amil in udaipur is a welcome percursor to better health for the bohra community and will lead to their increased confidence in making public pronouncements denouncing the first 3 khalifas and dawat na dushmano. these pesky sunnis and others will not dare to confront laanat uttering bohras knowing their martial arts skills.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Jan 06, 2012 6:09 pm

Al Zulfiqar wrote:the bohra communities in each location will be matched with the appropriate fighting skill level of the amil so that he can not only defend himself from frustrated and angry, resentful mumeen, but also be ready to unleash violent physical assaults on uncooperative abdes who refuse to pay up as demanded
Bro AZ,

Udaipur will then need Samurais as the threat perception over there is way above danger mark and sending only the karate kids will prove to be fatal for kothar.

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Fri Jan 06, 2012 6:28 pm

as per sacred protocol enshrined in kitabul himma and daimul islam, only qasre ali and baite zainy are allowed to become holy samurai fighters as only they are allowed to imbibe this secret skill and wield the samurai swords made out of the finest forged and meticulously sharpened kozijushi steel.

i hear from reliable sources that dawate hadiyah is urgently scrambling to send a few young zaads to japan to enroll at the kobe and daichi monasteries to learn this ancient art.

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Unread post by anajmi » Fri Jan 06, 2012 6:40 pm

The abdes meanwhile will be using samurai blades made from pure sushi steel.

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Unread post by seeker110 » Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:50 pm

There comes a point when patience becomes cowardice.

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:10 pm

anajmi wrote:The abdes meanwhile will be using samurai blades made from pure sushi steel.
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: that was really hilarious anajmi!!! :lol: :lol:

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Unread post by Smart » Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:47 pm

This news is awesome.
"Ghanu Looto, ghanu looto".
Keep up the good work Aamil Sahab!!!

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Unread post by Hussain_KSA » Sat Jan 07, 2012 3:18 am

Udaipur Amil Mustafa has been missing after attacked left is leg broken. Its learned that he is in Mumbai at present. Three of his main supporters Asghar Reeha Kolyariwala, Kausar kurawardwala and Shabbir Hondawala are hiding from public. Kausar and Shabbir who were present at the time of attack also got their share while Asghar was in office that time.
Till now 9.5 crore Rupees estimated fraud is uncovered. However no police complain or press statement was released. Jamat Secretary is saying that this is an internal issue and it would be solved. When online English news paper udaipurtimes published the related story, very next moment jamat members requested the paper to remove the story. Which was obliged.
Amil Mustafa is from Ujjain and very close to Mansoos e Dawat Mufaddal bhai sahib and his Son Taha Bhai Saheb. He was beaten earlier too in another city by local bohras for misappropriation and fraud beside mistreatment.

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Unread post by humanbeing » Sat Jan 07, 2012 3:53 am

Hi
Can anyone provide economics of Galiyakot tour with reliability.

Ziyafat , Kadambosi, Salam, Kadam at home or shop, Nikaah, Misaaq, Iftidaah, : Rates and Charges ?

How much was Give & Take ?
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I have heard from general discussions, so I cant assure it as authentic :

Every household in galiyakot or Wagad was allotted one pass for Kadambosi for free and additional passes was at rate of 1000 – 1400 per pass.

Four Ziyafat was conducted at the premise of Sayedna Saheb at same time, totaling amount to Rs 2 Crores.

Sayedna Saheb announced allotment of Kard-e-Hasanat of Rs 2.5 crores for the bohra mumin of Galiyakot .

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Unread post by Reporter » Sat Jan 07, 2012 7:58 am

Here are some news reports from the local Hindi newspapers:
News cuttings of fake passes scandal

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Unread post by allush » Sat Jan 07, 2012 2:59 pm

brother, i heard that aamil of udaipur was previously in kuwait, and he loot many bohras. His native place is in ujjain. He and his all relatives are sheikh. (per person cost 52 lakhs approx. for sheikh). Now u can guess how much he earn from bohras.

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Unread post by SBM » Sat Jan 07, 2012 7:37 pm

I would like to see comments(about this cheater Aamil as well deaf silence about punishing him and returning money to the gullible Momineens) from the defenders of Kothari Goons like TB, Guy Sam, babul1 and so on and so on.........

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Unread post by asif786 » Sun Jan 08, 2012 6:05 am

Hussain_KSA wrote:Udaipur Amil Mustafa has been missing after attacked left is leg broken. Its learned that he is in Mumbai at present. Three of his main supporters Asghar Reeha Kolyariwala, Kausar kurawardwala and Shabbir Hondawala are hiding from public. Kausar and Shabbir who were present at the time of attack also got their share while Asghar was in office that time.
Till now 9.5 crore Rupees estimated fraud is uncovered. However no police complain or press statement was released. Jamat Secretary is saying that this is an internal issue and it would be solved. When online English news paper udaipurtimes published the related story, very next moment jamat members requested the paper to remove the story. Which was obliged.
Amil Mustafa is from Ujjain and very close to Mansoos e Dawat Mufaddal bhai sahib and his Son Taha Bhai Saheb. He was beaten earlier too in another city by local bohras for misappropriation and fraud beside mistreatment.
Husainbhai

are you referring to Kauser kurawardwala the son of Abbas Kurawardwala in the above post ?can you pls confirm

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Unread post by Hussain_KSA » Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:00 am

Yes he is the same person as his uncle Zakir Kudawadwala was the master pin and cause of Udaipur tragdy.

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Unread post by Smart » Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:41 am

The silence of the abdes and the apologists of the kothar like aqs, nalwalla etc., is deafening!.

Remember, my abde brothers, hiding your head in the sand is not going to save your skin.

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Unread post by stranger » Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:35 pm

Talk is going on and hopefully people will get back their money, today there was some meeting on the same issue.
As per info, Aamil has not fled anywhere but still @ Udaipur only.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:30 pm

The whole incident is kept under wraps and hardly any abdes from other cities including mumbai are aware of the scam. Needless to say that it will not have any mention in kothar sponsored sites of malumat, mumineen and zeninfosys.

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Unread post by asad » Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:28 am

how can people pay these kind of obscene amount. if they paid then they deserved to be duped.

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Unread post by asad » Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:49 am

mustafanalwalla wrote:
asad wrote:how can people pay these kind of obscene amount. if they paid then they deserved to be duped.

Hi Asad,

You must understand, for us, if given the chance to do kadambosi, then Rs. 11,000/- is not a very large amount.

So saying that they deserve to be duped is not nice, considering that for us, money is less important as compared to love and devotion to our Dai

Also, they were duped in due course of faith, not in some get-rich-quick scheme. if was for some chit fund or some shit like that, then yes, they deserved to be duped.
Mustafa,

you still live in a nice cosy world where every thing is good and fair, you need to remove the prism of your blind faith and then you might be able to see what i want to say.
every gullible bohra should at least have a good idea that a qadambosi pass cant cost you a measly 11k. generally passes cost in the upward of 50k so if people thought they have got a pass in 11k so they are bound be duped and thats what happened.