Saudi Arabia- Riyadh Dawoodi bohra Markaz Closed.

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Saudi Arabia- Riyadh Dawoodi bohra Markaz Closed.

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Unread post by Hussain_KSA » Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:06 am

Dawoodi Bohra Markaz located in Malaz district of Riyadh Capital of Saudi Arabia has been shut down since two weeks. All the Taboodat programes, Tiffin or Dabba distribution, Madarsa is put on hold till fruther notice. Even no programs are being hold in small groups in an individual residance. It is leaned that the plain cloths officials from the (Mabaheth or CID) has twice checked the building. However local jamat has shifted all the books and materials to one of the Jamat Members godown to avoid any action from the athority. This building was under observation by secret service of the internal ministry since six month due to STD and Rida wearing mumineen's frequent gatherings. Timely information by some well wisher averted Jeddah Markaz like raid in last decade when many were arrested and deported.
If sources are to be believed even Dammam Markaz is under screening and police is keeping the record of visitors. Eastern region of Saudi Arabia has witnessed some riots between security forces and minority shia saudi nationals during last three months.
Dammam mumineen are requested to be causious while attending any program now a days.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:53 pm

Inspite of the above, the dai will continue to fool abdes into giving him more gold for making the zari of Fatema-tus-Zahra (a.s.) because he very well knows that abdes wont figure out a simple thing which is that if the dai's markaz itself are in danger, the dai himself was banned from visiting saudi for 20 years then how the hell will he be allowed to build a gold zari when his and his followers reputations and deviant beliefs are itself at stake ?

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:59 pm

Hussain_KSA wrote:It is leaned that the plain cloths officials from the (Mabaheth or CID) has twice checked the building. However local jamat has shifted all the books and materials to one of the Jamat Members godown to avoid any action from the athority
Its time that some people collude with the saudi CID and participate in the raids and get hold of all the hidden books which are used and manipulated in order to deviate bohraism. No need to go to sabak and it can also be used in the current hot debate with Adam.

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Unread post by profastian » Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:49 am

ghulam muhammed wrote:
Hussain_KSA wrote:It is leaned that the plain cloths officials from the (Mabaheth or CID) has twice checked the building. However local jamat has shifted all the books and materials to one of the Jamat Members godown to avoid any action from the athority
Its time that some people collude with the saudi CID and participate in the raids and get hold of all the hidden books which are used and manipulated in order to deviate bohraism. No need to go to sabak and it can also be used in the current hot debate with Adam.
There is no need to raid the markaz. You can easily find the books if you tried hard enough. Why do not you go read up and debate with Adam. Engineer and doctor would be good places to start your search

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:17 pm

profastian wrote:
You can easily find the books if you tried hard enough. Why do not you go read up and debate with Adam.
profastian.

on what basis do you make such a statement? please quote your sources and the books with their authors. also bring forth evidence from all the nabis going back to nabi adam and then from all imams upto the last one, 21st.

thanks.

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Unread post by profastian » Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:28 pm

Al Zulfiqar wrote:
profastian wrote:
You can easily find the books if you tried hard enough. Why do not you go read up and debate with Adam.
profastian.

on what basis do you make such a statement? please quote your sources and the books with their authors. also bring forth evidence from all the nabis going back to nabi adam and then from all imams upto the last one, 21st.

thanks.
what ??? what claim? :? :? :?

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:32 pm

profastian wrote:
Al Zulfiqar wrote: profastian.

on what basis do you make such a statement? please quote your sources and the books with their authors. also bring forth evidence from all the nabis going back to nabi adam and then from all imams upto the last one, 21st.

thanks.
what ??? what claim? :? :? :?
this is beyond your puny understanding, go ask your partner in crime, adam.

according to him whatever you say, must be backed up by 'SOURCES', books must be quoted and evidence provided from all nabis, imams and duats.

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Unread post by profastian » Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:34 pm

Al Zulfiqar wrote:
profastian wrote: what ??? what claim? :? :? :?
this is beyond your puny understanding, go ask your partner in crime, adam.

according to him whatever you say, must be backed up by 'SOURCES', books must be quoted and evidence provided from all nabis, imams and duats.
a
I am beginning to believe that you are a moron...

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:35 pm

you will have to provide SOURCES for that too....

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Unread post by profastian » Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:36 pm

Al Zulfiqar wrote:you will have to provide SOURCES for that too....
My search is well under way to find your family doctor.

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:41 pm

profastian wrote:
Al Zulfiqar wrote:you will have to provide SOURCES for that too....
My search is well under way to find your family doctor.
that will not do. you have to find SOURCES only from our religious books and evidence from all nabis going back to nabi adam + imams and duats.

i suggest that since your pea-sized brain is not upto this monumental task, you leave it to the great abde scholar - adam. that is his profession.

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Unread post by profastian » Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:43 pm

Al Zulfiqar wrote:
profastian wrote: My search is well under way to find your family doctor.
that will not do. you have to find SOURCES only from our religious books and evidence from all nabis going back to nabi adam + imams and duats.

i suggest that since your pea-sized brain is not upto this monumental task, you leave it to the great abde scholar - adam. that is his profession.
Your doctor's opinion would suffice to prove your moronity

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:49 pm

profastian wrote:Your doctor's opinion would suffice to prove your moronity
Its better you consult Dr.Bahrainwala as he is the only one recommended by the dai in times of heart problems, dental problems, cancer, gas, constipation, acne, pimples, weak eyesight, AIDs and even piles....... All in One.

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Unread post by profastian » Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:51 pm

ghulam muhammed wrote:
profastian wrote:Your doctor's opinion would suffice to prove your moronity
Its better you consult Dr.Bahrainwala as he is the only one recommended by the dai in times of heart problems, dental problems, cancer, gas, constipation, acne, pimples, weak eyesight, AIDs and even piles....... All in One.
AZ's problem is much more serious than piles and AID. Must find the family doctor for case history first. maybe moronity runs in the family. I hope he didn't marry a moron, otherwise God save his children.

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:53 pm

profastian wrote:
Your doctor's opinion would suffice to prove your moronity (sic)
according to adam, even that doctor will need bohra religious SOURCES with evidence from all nabis starting from adam and then each and every imam too to validate his 'opinion'...

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:57 pm

btw, prof, what's your 'SOURCE'?

how were you conceived? do you have any evidence from bohra deeni scriptures to prove you were born? do you have evidence from adam nabi and all nabis downwards from him and all the imams that you are a dawoodi abde bohra?

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Unread post by profastian » Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:59 pm

Al Zulfiqar wrote:btw, prof, what's your 'SOURCE'?

how were you conceived? do you have any evidence from bohra deeni scriptures to prove you were born? do you have evidence from adam nabi and all nabis downwards from him and all the imams that you are a dawoodi abde bohra?
Actually my friend adam will tell you that this is the only thing where you do not need such evidence. Only evidence from the DAI is required. and he recognizes me as a Dawoodi Bohra,..

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:02 pm

profastian wrote:Only evidence from the DAI is required. and he recognizes me as a Dawoodi Bohra,..
The dai first recognizes the currencies and only after that he recognizes someone as a dawoodi bohra.

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Unread post by anajmi » Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:05 pm

I have been recognized by the Dai as a dollar abde dawoodi bohra.

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Unread post by profastian » Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:06 pm

anajmi wrote:I have been recognized by the Dai as a dollar abde dawoodi bohra.
Post your certificate here.

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Unread post by anajmi » Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:09 pm

First let me see yours.

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:11 pm

profastian wrote:
Al Zulfiqar wrote:btw, prof, what's your 'SOURCE'?

how were you conceived? do you have any evidence from bohra deeni scriptures to prove you were born? do you have evidence from adam nabi and all nabis downwards from him and all the imams that you are a dawoodi abde bohra?
Actually my friend adam will tell you that this is the only thing where you do not need such evidence. Only evidence from the DAI is required. and he recognizes me as a Dawoodi Bohra,..
obviously from the size which remains after 3 khatnas to prove your loyalty....

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Unread post by ozmujaheed » Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:08 am

This is a sad and worry some news, if abdes are kicked out of KSA, Mufadal will loose all links with hajj and kabba.

They have already started discrediting the real kabba by declaring the Diai a virtual Kaaba and the visits to Diai to be as big or bigger blessing than visiting Makkah .

Once we loose links with the centre of Islam the bohra ism will become a dangerous cult and loose all Islamic heritage and risk becoming deviant like Ahmadiya or Ismaili .

It is in kasreali benefit for bohrasim to depart fundamental Islamic teachings sonnet can go on creating their own faith and keep abdes under no other influence, hence as I have already stated this cult will flourish under the shadow of secularism and tolerance of India, Africa and the west .