Ziyafats

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think
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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by think » Mon Nov 18, 2013 5:38 pm

explain ziafat 'A'

Bohra spring
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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by Bohra spring » Tue Nov 19, 2013 4:59 am

Obviously you have read the media and know what is it about

But in this discussion the pope is visiting an ill person and offering him comfort...the pope is giving ziafat and giving najwa of blessings that is holier currency ..which is reverse of what one would expect in Bohraism

In our case we buy bullshit from the Mansoos

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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by SBM » Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:44 pm

http://zeninfosys.net/zen/sites/default ... k=Ucb_aoa8
Gham-e-Husain with a BROWN ENVELOPE. oh they are giving with khushi, I see the khushi on the face of receiver and not the giver

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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by zinger » Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:23 am

SBM wrote:http://zeninfosys.net/zen/sites/default ... k=Ucb_aoa8
Gham-e-Husain with a BROWN ENVELOPE. oh they are giving with khushi, I see the khushi on the face of receiver and not the giver
thats because you see only what you WANT to see

think
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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by think » Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:21 pm

sbm, where was this picture taken of an old man doing salam to this young guy and crying.

ghulam muhammed
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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sat Nov 30, 2013 5:53 pm

Huzurala Tus Bestowed Sharaf on Hizbul Mafasihil Mumeneen in Mumbai

13th Moharram, 1435

Location: Mumbai, Maharashtra, India.

Hizbul Mafasihil Mumeneen were granted the great honor of offering Ziyafat us Shukr to our beloved Aqa Maula(TUS) and his Mansoos Syedi Aali Qadr(TUS) on the 13th of Moharram 1435H. Performing a thousand sajdaat us shukr for this great privilege.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Mon Jan 13, 2014 5:43 pm

Hadiyat Sharaf to 11 Sunelwala Mumineens :

Date : 23rd April 2013
Mumbai, India:Hadiyat sharaf to shk.AsgerAli Fidaali Najmi of Najmi Mohalla(Sitabuldi Nagpur) Along with 10 more Sunelwala mumineen(Total 11/21) of Nagpur out of 21 From Nagpur Jamaat which is respectable ratio more than 50% .

List of Sunelwala Mumineens who got sharaf of Hadiyat.
[1] Shk.Abbas Bhai Cutpiece wala.[2] Shk. Abbas Bhai Master.[3] Shk.Abbas Bhai Kirana wala.[4] Shk.Abbas Bhai Banaras Wala [5] Shk Ismail Bhai Laddu. [6] Shk Alihusain Bhai Limdi wala. [7] Shk Kamruddin Bhai Lehri. [8] Shk. sajjad Bhai Najeeb. [9] Shk Mohammed Husain Maldevi Wala. [10] Shk Hasan Ali Bhai Behrain Wala. [11] Shk. Asger Mulla Fidaali.

http://sunelwala.com/

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun Dec 14, 2014 5:59 pm

ZIYAFAT IN DUBAI.

AS PER REPORTS THE PICTURES ARE OF THE VILLA OF SHK MOIZBHAI LOKHANDWALA OF M/S. SPEEDEX TRADING CO., WHICH WAS DECORATED FOR MUFFY'S ZIYAFAT. THE MILLIONS OF UAE DINARS PAID FOR THE AZEEM-US-SHAAN SHARAF COULD BE ANYONES GUESS !!


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Unread post by DisillusionedDB » Sun Dec 14, 2014 11:40 pm

ghulam muhammed wrote:ZIYAFAT IN DUBAI.
AS PER REPORTS THE PICTURES ARE OF THE VILLA OF SHK MOIZBHAI LOKHANDWALA OF M/S. SPEEDEX TRADING CO., WHICH WAS DECORATED FOR MUFFY'S ZIYAFAT. THE MILLIONS OF UAE DINARS PAID FOR THE AZEEM-US-SHAAN SHARAF COULD BE ANYONES GUESS !!
Just imagine how many poor souls could have been helped with this money instead of wasting it on an already filthy rich sultan.

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Unread post by fustrate_Bohra » Sun Dec 14, 2014 11:47 pm

Only one farman KEEP MY ZIAFAT SIMPLE AND SPEND MONEY IN HELPING NEEDY BOHRAS may change alot.

BUT none of our dai had given this fatwa.

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Unread post by DisillusionedDB » Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:08 am

fustrate_Bohra wrote: BUT none of our dai had given this fatwa.
And none of them will ever do so. Greed overrides sense of humanity/piety/logic/rationality.

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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by Akhtiar Wahid » Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:09 am

This guy who is the owner of Speedex is none other than a thug who use to roam around the streets of Mumbai, this guy is also known as tiger in the underworld. He has relationship with all the people in the mafia and plays a key character in evacuation of people in Bhindi bazaar for SBUT project.
This guy is heavily funded by Qaid Joker, and Qaid Joker whenever he comes to Dubai discretely looks after him provides him with all the bounties which Dubai can provide.
Qaid Joker is the person running this business putting dawat money (which belongs solely to dawat) for his personal investments.
All those wajebats, Najwas which are offered are channeled for his personal gains.
Qasre Aalis and Kothar shit bricks when this guy shows anger, this guy is the new age SYN. He was prepared by SYN!

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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by Humsafar » Tue Dec 16, 2014 11:24 am

ghulam muhammed wrote:ZIYAFAT IN DUBAI.

AS PER REPORTS THE PICTURES ARE OF THE VILLA OF SHK MOIZBHAI LOKHANDWALA OF M/S. SPEEDEX TRADING CO., WHICH WAS DECORATED FOR MUFFY'S ZIYAFAT. THE MILLIONS OF UAE DINARS PAID FOR THE AZEEM-US-SHAAN SHARAF COULD BE ANYONES GUESS !!

This cloying servility and extravaganza is bad enough, but what is worse is this Lokhandwala's atrocious taste in decor. Or maybe a tacky Dai deserves a tacky reception!!!

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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by SBM » Tue Dec 16, 2014 11:29 am

Humsafar wrote:
ghulam muhammed wrote:ZIYAFAT IN DUBAI.

AS PER REPORTS THE PICTURES ARE OF THE VILLA OF SHK MOIZBHAI LOKHANDWALA OF M/S. SPEEDEX TRADING CO., WHICH WAS DECORATED FOR MUFFY'S ZIYAFAT. THE MILLIONS OF UAE DINARS PAID FOR THE AZEEM-US-SHAAN SHARAF COULD BE ANYONES GUESS !!

This cloying servility and extravaganza is bad enough, but what is worse is this Lokhandwala's atrocious taste in decor. Or maybe a tacky Dai deserves a tacky reception!!!
If Abdes can have Ziyaafats in Swimming Pool why is this any different. Next Ziyaafats is going to be on Virgin X space flight.

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Unread post by humanbeing » Thu Dec 18, 2014 7:13 am

Humsafar wrote:This cloying servility and extravaganza is bad enough, but what is worse is this Lokhandwala's atrocious taste in decor. Or maybe a tacky Dai deserves a tacky reception!!!
SMS is living the dream, what is the use of his dai ship if he cannot enjoy the materialism. sitting in this posh decorated room, he will talk about imam hussein's troubles, Imam Ali's humble life and sayyeda fatima zahra's strugggles and pain with a rova jevu moo, while abdes beat thier chest loud to gain maula ni khushi.

this may sound trolling, and my apologies for the same, but really, is this pomp, exgtravagance and opulence required ? is this definition of walayat ? is this the only way to express walayat ? why cant these guys live a simple life, one is not asking to walk barefeet or on burning charcoals (plzz, that is impossibility).. each and every moment thesereligious thugs needs loud flattery and extravagance. They are anyways fooling the abdes and laughing thier butts off ripping off abdes of thier monies. a little austerity in thier conduct shouldnt be difficult. for those who have realized the treachery of these conmen, watch in dismay and disgust at such sick ayyash arrogance by so called "shafeek mazloom masoom adna mamlook-e-aale-mohammed"

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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by Biradar » Thu Dec 18, 2014 12:22 pm

humanbeing wrote:
Humsafar wrote:This cloying servility and extravaganza is bad enough, but what is worse is this Lokhandwala's atrocious taste in decor. Or maybe a tacky Dai deserves a tacky reception!!!
SMS is living the dream, what is the use of his dai ship if he cannot enjoy the materialism. sitting in this posh decorated room, he will talk about imam hussein's troubles, Imam Ali's humble life and sayyeda fatima zahra's strugggles and pain with a rova jevu moo, while abdes beat thier chest loud to gain maula ni khushi.
The dawaat at present is the private purse of DMMS and his vast and extended family. It has been for a long time, incidentally, even during the time of SMB. His family enjoyed great decadence and power. Why should it not be so? After all, the Bohris are more than happy to genuflect in front of every two-dime Amil, shehzada or their little kids, given them loads of money and feed them tasty jamaan. It is just that now DMMS is openly behaving like Firon, riding fancy chariots, horse drawn carriages, etc. He is so stupid that he does not see the irony in riding A/C horse drawn carriages just a few moments before he gives a lecture to others about Imam Hussain or Maulana Ali! I mean, he is not good at subtlety, unlike his father. At this point Bohras are so submissive that they will "wah-wah" whatever he does, irrespective of how absurd or ridiculous it appears to normal people. Adam and his ilk will be searching through obscure books to justify this ridiculous behavior. Honestly, it is clear that Bohras have been reduced to acting out a farce, with leading role played by the Chief Clown, Mr. Muffadul.

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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by Humsafar » Thu Dec 18, 2014 12:50 pm

Biradar wrote: The dawaat at present is the private purse of DMMS and his vast and extended family. It has been for a long time, incidentally, even during the time of SMB. His family enjoyed great decadence and power. Why should it not be so? After all, the Bohris are more than happy to genuflect in front of every two-dime Amil, shehzada or their little kids, given them loads of money and feed them tasty jamaan. It is just that now DMMS is openly behaving like Firon, riding fancy chariots, horse drawn carriages, etc. He is so stupid that he does not see the irony in riding A/C horse drawn carriages just a few moments before he gives a lecture to others about Imam Hussain or Maulana Ali! I mean, he is not good at subtlety, unlike his father. At this point Bohras are so submissive that they will "wah-wah" whatever he does, irrespective of how absurd or ridiculous it appears to normal people. Adam and his ilk will be searching through obscure books to justify this ridiculous behavior. Honestly, it is clear that Bohras have been reduced to acting out a farce, with leading role played by the Chief Clown, Mr. Muffadul.
Biradar, You are leapfrogging yourself into the anti-Bohra category. Oh well....

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Unread post by Biradar » Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:07 pm

Humsafar wrote: Biradar, You are leapfrogging yourself into the anti-Bohra category. Oh well....
Actually, I feel very insulted that our good friend fayyaaz has not classified me in the Taxonomy of Bohras. Really, am I not even worthy of a classification? I feel so dejected and sad.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Dec 18, 2014 5:36 pm

SBM wrote:Next Ziyaafats is going to be on Virgin X space flight.
Can someone arrange a Ziyafat on Spicejet or Kingfisher airlines. :lol:

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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Dec 18, 2014 5:57 pm

Biradar wrote:After all, the Bohris are more than happy to genuflect in front of every two-dime Amil, shehzada or their little kids, given them loads of money and feed them tasty jamaan
A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHAT YOU SAID :

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Unread post by zinger » Fri Dec 19, 2014 12:09 am

ghulam muhammed wrote:
Biradar wrote:After all, the Bohris are more than happy to genuflect in front of every two-dime Amil, shehzada or their little kids, given them loads of money and feed them tasty jamaan
A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHAT YOU SAID :

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i remember seeing this before and finding it so BLEEPING BLEEPING bizzare :roll:

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Unread post by DisillusionedDB » Fri Dec 19, 2014 12:13 am

ghulam muhammed wrote:
Biradar wrote:After all, the Bohris are more than happy to genuflect in front of every two-dime Amil, shehzada or their little kids, given them loads of money and feed them tasty jamaan
A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHAT YOU SAID :
This is the height of stupidity and abde-ness .. Look at all the seniors with white beards bending over before a child who has not even sprouted a hair on his chin. :roll:

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Unread post by zinger » Fri Dec 19, 2014 12:18 am

screw that... look at a man old enough to be his dada/nana bending in front of him.. [DELETED]
he could be the grandson of mufaddal maula for all i care, but this is downright ridiculous

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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by kimanumanu » Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:23 am

Que James/Adam with a random quote from some text and how we revere chhota shahid AliAsgar.

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Unread post by Biradar » Fri Dec 19, 2014 2:18 pm

zinger wrote:screw that... look at a man old enough to be his dada/nana bending in front of him.. [DELETED] he could be the grandson of mufaddal maula for all i care, but this is downright ridiclous
Zinger: Just out of curiosity, why do you call DMMS "maula"? You obviously think he is not good enough for you, so why keep up this charade? How can a person who disobeyed his father, broke his misaaq for decades on end, pulled off a coup in front of thousands, says and does the most absurd and ridiculous things, is a open misogynist and anti-intellectual, does not know the ABC of being a kind and compassionate person, wants to eat expensive ziyaafats, ride in AC buggies like Firon before mouthing off banalities about Imam Hussain, be worth of that title? Please explain.

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Unread post by New » Fri Dec 19, 2014 3:04 pm

I have already proposed the name DAWOODI BAKRAS to these people. Just wondering why this name has not stuck? OK let me try this
DELETED. Use them as you as needed, I am not holding any MOMINOPOLY on this.

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Unread post by Ozdundee » Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:16 pm

zinger wrote:screw that... look at a man old enough to be his dada/nana bending in front of him.. [DELETED]
he could be the grandson of mufaddal maula for all i care, but this is downright ridiculous

The 55th Diai in the making ?

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Unread post by SBM » Fri Dec 19, 2014 6:22 pm

Ozdundee wrote:
zinger wrote:screw that... look at a man old enough to be his dada/nana bending in front of him.. [DELETED]
he could be the grandson of mufaddal maula for all i care, but this is downright ridiculous

The 55th Diai in the making ?
Who is 54th?

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Unread post by Ozdundee » Fri Dec 19, 2014 9:09 pm

$50 bet the don sorry son of Muffy ! Let's hope you and I live to see the bet through !

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Unread post by yfm » Sat Dec 20, 2014 12:27 am

Is this what Imam Hassan Died for? Today is his Shahdat night. The grandson of our Prophet, the son of Ma Fatima, the son of Ali, the brother of Hussein walked away from Mawya's Kothar when Mawya haggled with our beloved Imam Hassan over money. How did it all end? Mawya sent his servant to give Imam Hassan the money that was the subject of this episode. Did Imam Hassan take it. No he gave it as a donation to the servant. What did Mawya do. He took it away from the servant. Are we followers of the teachings of Muhammad (SAW). If so what happened to all these wise old man who appear to be the learned man of the bohra community. Look at their faces.