Ziyafats

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kimanumanu
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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by kimanumanu » Mon Dec 22, 2014 4:28 pm

Thank you for the clarification Admin.

ghulam muhammed
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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Mon Dec 22, 2014 5:17 pm

Bro zinger,

To answer your queries -......... The person in the photo is NOT the one who has hosted the Ziyafat but he is the Bhaanja of the owner of M/s.Speedex who have hosted the same. The person in the photo is Ismailbhai Dhanerawala who was once a staunch abde and very close to Muffy and was awarded the title of "Sheikh" but he has left Bohraism long back and started following the wahabi ideology alongwith his children, grandchildren and his brothers Burhan and Abizar. As to why he doesn't have a beard or wear a topi is something which I cant answer but the fact remains that he and his family are now strictly following the wahabi brand of Islam. In fact I know many people who follow this ideology but don't have a beard or wear topi.

Critical_Thinker
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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by Critical_Thinker » Mon Dec 22, 2014 7:13 pm

ghulam muhammed wrote:watsup msg :

Forwarded as received :

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Ziyafat at the bungalow of M/s. Speedex Hardware in Dubai.

This mumin has one of the biggest hardware business in our community in Dubai. Money talks.... even if you have no beard or topi doesn't matter.

The gentleman in the picture is Shk Ismail Dhanerawala, son of late Shk Mohammedbhai Dhanerawala. Shk Ismail is the bhaanja of the owner of Speedex who has now become a staunch wahabi like his other 2 brothers, Burhan and Abizer. Burhan is the one who runs a famous Islamic website, islamhelpline.

Shk Ismail was once a diehard abde and was also instrumental in taking out a maatami juloos of bohras during the 70s in the wahabi ruled country of Bahrain, this was the first and only bohra juloos ever taken out by Bohras in Bahrain.

During his abde days, Shk Ismail was very close to Muffy and so his mama invited him as a guest. He is now a staunch wahabi and his entire family including his grandchildren have left Bohraism. One of his brother is still in the bohra community but he has no children. Ismailbhai's sisters are also diehard abdes and own Monalisa store in Dubai, her husband is a sheikh.

Burhan is married to a wealthy Bahrain based Pakistani Punjabi girl and Ismailbhai's grandson is married to a Bahrain based Pakistani Punjabi restaurant chain owner.

Late Shk Mohammedbhai Dhanerawala alongwith his late brother Najmuddin have contributed greatly towards Kothar's wealth and Najmuddinbhai had also built the palace of 52nd Dai in Ahmedabad. These 2 brothers and their wives have also built many rozas and masjids.
The picture is fine but is there any proof to confirm the text of this whatapp, or is it just more rumours?

SBM
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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by SBM » Mon Dec 22, 2014 7:18 pm

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Go and check yourself... I am sure you have enough time between changing the Diapers to find it out.
Still you did not answer
What have you contributed to the betterment of Community and all the other questions you asked GM.

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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Mon Dec 22, 2014 7:26 pm

Bro SBM,

Why do you even respond to CT's nonsensical questions, its better to ignore her/his/it, ignorance is bliss !!

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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by Critical_Thinker » Mon Dec 22, 2014 8:06 pm

If you have proof to confirm what you claim then please provide it ghulam.
Otherwise, unverified posts on the internet should always be taken with a pinch of salt.

anajmi
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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by anajmi » Mon Dec 22, 2014 9:31 pm

Another irrelevant post. Every post from you should be taken with a bag of salt.

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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by seeker110 » Mon Dec 22, 2014 9:36 pm

He has no photos of the new and the old dai's, on his walls. wasamro salo.

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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by fiate2000 » Wed Dec 24, 2014 4:13 pm

Ghulam bhai, you appear to be very informative and highly educated about general issues and therefore I hold great respect for you. I am eager to have your views on whether you consider Wahabis as muslims? Thanks

To answer your queries -......... The person in the photo is NOT the one who has hosted the Ziyafat but he is the Bhaanja of the owner of M/s.Speedex who have hosted the same. The person in the photo is Ismailbhai Dhanerawala who was once a staunch abde and very close to Muffy and was awarded the title of "Sheikh" but he has left Bohraism long back and started following the wahabi ideology alongwith his children, grandchildren and his brothers Burhan and Abizar. As to why he doesn't have a beard or wear a topi is something which I cant answer but the fact remains that he and his family are now strictly following the wahabi brand of Islam. In fact I know many people who follow this ideology but don't have a beard or wear topi.[/quote]

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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Wed Dec 24, 2014 5:30 pm

fiate2000 wrote:Ghulam bhai, you appear to be very informative and highly educated about general issues and therefore I hold great respect for you. I am eager to have your views on whether you consider Wahabis as muslims? Thanks
Firstly thanks for your kind words. Regarding if wahabis should be considered as Muslims or not is not something for us to decide, the wahabis also consider shias to be non muslims and vice versa so at the end it is all about interpretation of the holy book Quran. Every Islamic sect considers itself to be the saved sect which is promised Jannat and there are almost 73 sects so who will decide ? Every sect observes the basic 5 pillars of Islam but only one sect is destined to go to Jannat as per Prophet's hadiths. Hence, no human can decide one's fate except the Almighty Allah (swt). However no one can deny the fact that the wahabi lands have produced more violent Muslims due to their extremist ideology.

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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Jan 15, 2015 5:54 pm

watsup msg

Forwarded as Received :

MAKAR SANKRATI NA MUBARAK DIN MA ALI QADR MOLA YE KHANDALA NA BUNGALOW MA ZIYAFAT NU STAGE PATANG SI SAJAAVA NU FARMAN AAPU ANE MOLANA MODIUDDIN NI KHUSHI HAASIL KIDHI

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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by JC » Thu Jan 15, 2015 6:02 pm

Imami Shaan Na Maulana Noor-apeenara Modiuddin Zayafat Ma Tashreef Laewsay Tuo Khali Bay-qadr Maula 10 crore Na Hakeer Najwa Arz Karsay Anay Maula Nee Khushee Hasi Karsay!

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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by SBM » Thu Jan 15, 2015 6:30 pm

Did the food was served on PATANG too?

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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by think » Thu Jan 15, 2015 6:36 pm

hats off to g.m. most appropriate title "moulana modi uddin at least from the bohra's ,moulana muffy uddin's side of the fence.

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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by think » Thu Jan 15, 2015 6:37 pm

hats off to g.m. most appropriate title "moulana modi uddin at least from the bohra's ,moulana muffy uddin's side of the fence.

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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Jan 15, 2015 6:38 pm

SBM wrote:Did the food was served on PATANG too?
Yes, but it was for the abdes who had to run after the patangs as the dor was in Muffy's hands who made it sure that the patang lands only on his thaal.

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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Jan 15, 2015 6:41 pm

think wrote:hats off to g.m. most appropriate title "moulana modi uddin at least from the bohra's ,moulana muffy uddin's side of the fence.
Thanks but I had to shorten his laqab as it was too long, it was Mansoor al Gujarat, Vashi un Gangama, Sultan ul Hindutva, Al-Hay Molana Modiuddin. :lol: :roll:

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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by Abuzer » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:10 am

muqaddas Modiuddin saheb LOOL

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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Wed Feb 11, 2015 5:21 pm

Shz Dr. Qaidjohar Bs Ezzuddin saheb DM gave ziyafat sharaf to Shk Shabbir Cherawala (Chicago jamaat) in Mumbai

17th Rabiul Aakhar, 1436
Location: MH, India, Mumbai


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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Mar 12, 2015 6:29 pm

MUFFY'S ZIYAFAT IN USA --
AMERICAN THEME, McDONALD AND KFC FOOD ONLY...... THAAL GAYA TEL LENE !!


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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Tue Mar 17, 2015 4:56 pm

MUFFY'S ZIYAFAT IN MALIBU HILLS, USA, ONE OF THE POSH RESIDENTIAL AREA..... WADHAAVNI THAALI OF "RUBIES AND PEARLS"

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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by mnoorani » Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:30 am

alhaq wrote:Dawat ye auj per hay aur auj per rahay gi
aadaa e deen ki surat rubah jesi hogi

Abhi bhi waqat hay...kyu hamaray peechay paray ho?
aajaw court may...
Court may to gaye hai do dawedaar jo kabhi dai ke baite the
Is se pata chalta hai ke nasl mai hi kuch kharaabi hai.

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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by mnoorani » Thu Mar 19, 2015 5:52 pm

alhaq wrote:Court may tera dawedar kq gaya hay meray moula nahi gaye...
Nuh nabi ka betha dushman nikla...
3 imam kay betay dushman niklay...
syedna abdulqadir najmuddin kay betay dushman niklay....
to kya sab ki nasal kharab thi...
himmat hay to jawab day...
Baat kar abhi ki, tareekh na dohraa
Muffy ne jhutlayaa mazoon apne hi baap ka
Nabi,imam ke aage, dai ki kya aukaad
Aur kya nahi gaya muffy court mein,lene apni hi aulaad?

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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by fustrate_Bohra » Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:21 am

mnoorani wrote:
alhaq wrote:Court may tera dawedar kq gaya hay meray moula nahi gaye...
Nuh nabi ka betha dushman nikla...
3 imam kay betay dushman niklay...
syedna abdulqadir najmuddin kay betay dushman niklay....
to kya sab ki nasal kharab thi...
himmat hay to jawab day...
Baat kar abhi ki, tareekh na dohraa
Muffy ne jhutlayaa mazoon apne hi baap ka
Nabi,imam ke aage, dai ki kya aukaad
Aur kya nahi gaya muffy court mein,lene apni hi aulaad?
Well said noorani bhai, To get custody of his children coward MS knock the door of court just like KQS did to get his haq of daiship.

So tell me alhaq how did MS differ from KQS except that MS is coward and dogla and illiterate.

I still remember the scene from this moharram when actor MS while doing emotional acting took out his handkerchief wipe his eyes and said "Koi momin court ma no jai" then why this dogla MS went their.

Khudki lagi to Nani yaad aa gayi, Chale bhasan dene.

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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by SBM » Fri Mar 20, 2015 11:00 am

alhaq wrote:hello mister
this is kidnapping case
kq n his toli kidnapped beautifull kids,,,,
its kidnapping case
:oops: And SMS and Moiez kidnapped the entire Dawat

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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by Biradar » Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:02 pm

alhaq wrote:How can they kidnapp full dawat...all r adult...n kidnapped from whome...
we r all belongs to burhanuddin moula n mufaddal moula....
to phir kidnappe kis say kya meray bhai...
Eesa lagta hae ke aap ka deemag yeh Iblisi shehzado aur unke pitama, Dawedar Muffadul ne kidnap kar deeya hay. Aap jeyse bewaqquf logo ne hamari qoum ko be-izat aur barbad kar deeya hay. Aap samajhete nahi ke Paygambar na paisson ka lalaah rakhte the, na chahte the ke loog unhe Khuda ke tereh ibadaat kare. Magar, dekho, yeh kambkhat Muffadul har cheez may apne taang dalta hai, aur bas paisson ke seeva use kuch sooj ta he nahee. Apnee shaan batenke ke leye woh palki me firta hai, bus jaisee Phiron firta tha. Paaiso ke lalaach mee who kya kay kar deya! Apne abaa saheb ka nafarman tha, aur unko bahut takleef pohchai. Jhoote kagaaz lekhawai, aur jhooti naas ka drama keeya. Bus, thode dino me who aag me ja jallega.

Magaar, Allah ne app jaise loogo ke dil per parda dala hai, aur aap kabhi haq ke baat nahee samjhege. Hum yed du'a karte hai ke ap ko Allah tawfeeq de, aur aap haq samjhe, aur yeh Yazeedi dawedar ka damaan choor kaar, haq per aa jaye.

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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by SBM » Fri Mar 20, 2015 1:54 pm

alhaq wrote:Tum yazidi dawedar ka daman chor do
He did-- He does not follow SMS :lol:

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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by fustrate_Bohra » Sat Mar 21, 2015 1:16 am

alhaq wrote:Tum yazidi dawedar ka daman chor do
MS is LIAR says something in court and something else to followers -- BUT MS IS NOT YAZID

MS is DOGLA preaches something else to his followers and he himself does something else. for eg. He knocks the door of court for his grand children custody --BUT MS IS NOT YAZID

MS is COWARD don't have guts to face KQS -- BUT MS IS NOT YAZID

MS is HUNTER, likes hunting -- BUT MS IS NOT YAZID

MS had made business of his father death, I know it was party season for 40 days and thereafter gilaaf chadavu and what else and what not --BUT MS IS NOT YAZID

MS changed his birthday date same as SMB date and also keep on celebrating his dead father birthday so that the flow of money don't get impact --BUT MS IS NOT YAZID

MS knew how his father condition was but still he went Sri Lanka to buy property --BUT MS IS NOT YAZID

MS keep on accepting expensive gifts get impress with fairy tale types ziafat like to roam like king --BUT MS IS NOT YAZID

MS Had invented new scheme which further add stress to follower for eg. Thali --BUT MS IS NOT YAZID

MS is GOONDA took help from gangster to vacant poor gullible mumin for his project --BUT MS IS NOT YAZID

MS is CONMAN had made many people homeless from last 5 to 6 years in the name of uplifting and if these people are fortunate to get the place they cannot call it as their own property as they had to take permission for any thing they had to do with their house. --BUT MS IS NOT YAZID

MS gave demanded money to non-bohra for the project but suppress his own follower by giving them less money--BUT MS IS NOT YAZID

Even after behaving like this if MS is not YAZID than me think YAZID was much much BETTER than MS.

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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Wed Jul 15, 2015 7:46 pm

watsup msg

Forwarded as Received :

Witness Story....

HIGH SPEED ZIYAFAT

Mola was invited for Ziyafat......... Where ???????.......... Just think in your wildest imagination........ You know where and how and at what price ????????....... It sent shivers and makes one think is Muffy a person whom you can follow and still if you wish you may end up jumping in the well !!!

The answer is........ Ziyafat was accepted and the venue was a LIFT/ELEVATOR...... IN THE LIFT WITH A FAMILY FROM SECOND TO GROUND FLOOR IN A FEW SECONDS FOR RS.2.5 LACS........

NOW KEEP FOLLOWING HIM, ITS YOUR DESTINY !!!
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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by questions » Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:22 pm

ghulam muhammed wrote:watsup msg

Forwarded as Received :

Witness Story....

HIGH SPEED ZIYAFAT

Mola was invited for Ziyafat......... Where ???????.......... Just think in your wildest imagination........ You know where and how and at what price ????????....... It sent shivers and makes one think is Muffy a person whom you can follow and still if you wish you may end up jumping in the well !!!

The answer is........ Ziyafat was accepted and the venue was a LIFT/ELEVATOR...... IN THE LIFT WITH A FAMILY FROM SECOND TO GROUND FLOOR IN A FEW SECONDS FOR RS.2.5 LACS........

NOW KEEP FOLLOWING HIM, ITS YOUR DESTINY !!!
Elevator quickie ?!
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