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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by think » Tue Jul 03, 2012 10:14 am

it is not pinching ,it is boxing. they should not wear this garb of Mr. holy and loot the innoscent. come out openly and state that you are having a very profitable business in the name of religion.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:24 pm

We have heard about children's birthday parties being celebrated with different themes such as strawberry theme, snowman theme, circus theme etc etc which are popularly known as theme parties. It seems that a phirangi abde in London has taken a cue and hosted a ziafat of the dai during the dai's recent visit to London and it was a "Theme Ziafat" and guess what was the theme........ It was "Olympic theme ziafat" wherein the house decor was olympic style with the dai's throne, curtains etc having the flag of England on it. The only thing missing was the "Olympic Torch" :mrgreen:

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:41 am

THE LONDON OLYMPIAN TAMASHA :-

The Dai took Ziafat from Murtaza M.Hatim Jivanji on 7th Shaban.

The Dai took Ziafat from Shabbir Mama on 13th Shaban.

The Dai took Ziafat from Aliasger Morbiwala on 14th Shaban.

The Dai took Ziafat from M.Juzarbhai Kimti, Treasurer of Anjuman-e-Burhania, London on 17th Shaban.

The Dai took Ziafat from Dr.Shabbir Susnerwala from Manchester on 18th Shaban.

The Dai took Ziafat from Shk Mustafa Bharmal on 20th Shaban.

The Dai took Ziafat from Shk Asgarali Kaderbhai on 20th Shaban.

The Dai took Ziafat from Shk Dr.Aliasger NKD Shk Ibrahim Rangwala on 20th Shaban.

The Dai took Ziafat from M.Asgerbhai Adamali from Leichester on 21st Shaban.

The Dai took Ziafat from Yusuf BS Maimoon on 21st Shaban

The Dai took Ziafat from Juzar BS Maimoon on 21st Shaban.

The Dai took 3 ZIAFATS from Shk Mustafa, Shk Shaukat and Shk Munawar Dungarwala from Croydon on 21st Shaban.

The Dai gave Mafsusiyat to M.Shabbirbhai Ismail jalal of Dar-es-Salam in London on 24th Shaban.

The Dai took 3 ZIAFATS from Shk Esoofali Kokar, M.Aziz and M.Juzer Kokar from Paris in London on 24th Shaban.

The Dai took Ziafat from Shk Shabbirbhai Rashid of Dubai in London on 24th Shaban.

The Dai took Ziafat from Shk Murtaza Jamali on 26th Shaban.

The Dai took Ziafat from M.Muslimbhai Taherali, (watan Majunga/Madagascar) from Paris in London on 26th Shaban.

The Dai took Ziafat from M.Hussainbhai Shk Gulamhussain Khedapa, watan Sagwara on 26th Shaban.

The Dai took Ziafat from M.Idris Shk Gulamhussain Khedapa, watan Sagwara in London on 26th Shaban.

The Dai took Ziafat from Hatimbhai Aliasger Raja on 26th Shaban.

The Dai took Ziafat from Fakhrudin Juzarbhai Paisawala on 26th Shaban.

The Dai took Ziafat from Shk Mohamed Adamji, Head Moalim of London & Masool of UK on 26th Shaban.

The Dai took Ziafat from Fakhrudin Lokhandwala on 26th Shaban.

The Dai took Ziafat from Shabbir M.Adamali Killawala on 27th Shaban.

The Dai took Ziafat from Shk Abdulhussain Taherali on 27th Shaban.

The Dai took Ziafat from M.Huzaifabhai M.Turabbhai Noorbhai on 27th Shaban.

The Dai took Ziafat from Shk Yunusbhai Abdul Qadir Uali Mullah on 27th Shaban.

The Dai took Ziafat from Janab Huzaifabhai saab on 27th Shaban.

The Dai took Ziafat from Shk Bashirbhai Jariwala NDI on 27th Shaban.

The Dai took Ziafat from M.Oanali Peerbhai on 27th Shaban.

The Dai took Ziafat from Murtaza M.Saifuddin Peeth from Manchester on 27th Shaban.

The Dai took Ziafat from Mustafa Upri, watan Colombo in London on 27th Shaban.

THE ZAADAS WERE IN SUCH A HURRY TO GRAB MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF MONEY FROM THE GULLIBLE ABDES THAT THEY CHOSE TO CREATE AN OLYMPIC RECORD THIS SEASON BY SQUEEZING IN 8 ZIAFATS ON 26TH SHABAN AND 9 ZIAFATS ON 27TH SHABAN THEREBY BEING TOTALLY UNCONCERNED AND LEAST BOTHERED OF THE DAI'S OLD AGE AND FRAGILE HEALTH !!!

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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by Hanif » Fri Aug 03, 2012 9:29 pm

I recognize two of my relatives in the recent list. I am sure other two will follow. Am not in touch with them.

However, one of them who is a Sheikh, used to be a jamati leader and was in charge of ration in the month of Mohorram and Ramadan. He would pick up the goods and make first stop at his house and off-load a bag of rice, oil and other goodies.

so much for the Jamati money and so much for the Sheikh.

Syedna used to love him. He would recognise him wherever he was.

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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by londonwala » Sat Aug 04, 2012 5:24 am

I do not know the source of Ghulam Mohammed's list, but there were in fact many many more ziyafets between 7 and 25 Shabaan. Only a few are on the list.

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Unread post by ozmujaheed » Sat Aug 04, 2012 9:22 am

What is the current rate of a ziafat in uk ?

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Unread post by Hanif » Sat Aug 04, 2012 4:36 pm

londonwala wrote:I do not know the source of Ghulam Mohammed's list, but there were in fact many many more ziyafets between 7 and 25 Shabaan. Only a few are on the list.

I agree my three chamcha relatives were missing on that list. I think Brother GM does not have the whole list.

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Unread post by ozmujaheed » Sat Aug 04, 2012 10:40 pm

I meant how much does it cost to hold a ziafat.

Raza salaam ?
What meal menu should be made
Salaams ?

Then once you complete is getting a title guaranteed?

People must be seeing a return on investment for them to be so much demand?

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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by mnoorani » Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:45 am

Dear OZ,
It is not only monetary. You fail to understand that people need recognition, they want to be in the Amil's thaal. They want to be in the first row of prayers. A title immediately elevates them to the upper crust.Then even amongst the titles people there is an hierarchy. I know of people who have sold off property to get a title. I have met a bohra from kuwait of the wagdh region. His wife was lamenting as to how the father in law in India has bought a title and the poor son has to pay for it. The wagadh region (Sagwara, banswara,Dungarpur area) people are very hard working and they have their own particular language (Waagri) for which they are ridiculed. And do not forget a lot of them went to the gulf as cooks. So with a title of sheikh , They are suddenly catapulted in the Amil's thaal. There is a cook in Kuwait, selling kharas in his little shop.He has made money and has become a shaikh. Plus even the Dadabhai family of Bahrain. They are very prominent nationals ,even they are from the region and the late Dadabhai would sell Samosas in the streets of Bahrain. So a title and money ,made him the most important person. Similarly another samosa selling family in Bahrain has made money, changed the line of business and bought a title. They even changed their surname from Samosa Wala to Khan Saheb !
So a title brings acceptance to the society and to the clever ones, a lot of money to be embezzled.

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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by londonwala » Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:59 am

Prices for recent ziyafats in London started at 11 thousand pounds plus about two thousand extra for bhai sahebs salaams and jaman. Some people negotiated this price down to about half price. Titles cost extra. There were at least 5 zyafats daily.

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Unread post by SBM » Sun Aug 05, 2012 12:06 pm

ZIYAFATS AG LORE INSTEAD OF NAMAZ OR REMEMBERING ALLAH DURING THE MONTH OF RAMADAN-- A NEW TREND

16 Ramadan-al-Moazzam, 1433 ( 03-08-2012 ) at Khandala
Huzurala TUS Bestowed Ziyafat Sharaf to Shk Mustafa Bhai Aantri in Khandala on 13th Shehrullah il Moazzam
17 Ramadan-al-Moazzam, 1433 ( 04-08-2012 ) at Nasik - India
Janab Shabbir Bs bin Shehzada Ammar Bs Jamaluddin Saheb DM Bestowed Zyafat Sharaf to M Mustafa Bhai Hasanji in Nasik - India
16 Ramadan-al-Moazzam, 1433 ( 03-08-2012 ) at Kandivali
Shz Malekulashtar Bs DM, gave ziyafat sharaf to Shk Zulfakar Mandsaurwala and his son M.Mufaddal,Abdulkadir and Hussain Mandsaurwala on 15mi raat of Ramdan al Moazzam Kandivali.
14 Ramadan-al-Moazzam, 1433 ( 01-08-2012 ) at Khandala - India
Aqa Maula TUS grants sharaf of ziyafat to Shk Jabirbhai Rasheed and family in Khandala
14 Ramadan-al-Moazzam, 1433 ( 01-08-2012 ) at Lonavla - India
Syedi Aliqadr Maula TUS grants ziyafat sharaf to Shk Jabirbhai Rasheed and Family
1433-london-ziyafat (4).jpg
13 Ramadan-al-Moazzam, 1433 ( 31-07-2012 ) at London
Huzurala Tus Bestowed Ziyafat Sharaf to Shk. Shabbirbhai Rashid from Dubai of Bazme Ikram ziyafat in London in Shabaan ul Karim 1433.
12 Ramadan-al-Moazzam, 1433 ( 30-07-2012 ) at London
Huzurala Tus Bestowed Ziyafat Sharaf to Murtaza M Saifuddin Peeth from Manchester Watan Sagwara in London on 27th Shaban al Karim
13 Ramadan-al-Moazzam, 1433 ( 31-07-2012 ) at karachi
10 Ramadan-al-Moazzam, 1433 ( 28-07-2012 ) at Kandivali - India
Shahzada MalekulAshter Shujauddin Saheb gave Ziyafat sharaf to Shk Qutubuddinbhai Lokhandwala and this son Shk Mustafabhai Lokhandwala from Kandivali (Mumbai) on 10th Ramdan al Moazzam.

Janab Abde Manaaf Bhai Saheb gave Ziyafat Sharaf to Shk Burhanuddin Rajab Ali Jasden Wala in Family At Shabirabad Block B Ezzy Villa Karachi Pakistan
1433-14-ramzan-karachi (7).jpg 13 Ramadan-al-Moazzam, 1433 ( 31-07-2012 ) at Karachi
Mumineen of Karachi doing Kher Maqdam of Janab Abdemanaf Bs Hakimuddin in Burhani Mohalla shabirabad Karachi Pakistan.
13 Ramadan-al-Moazzam, 1433 ( 31-07-2012 ) at Mumbai - India
Shahzada MalekulAshter Shujauddin Saheb gives ziyafat sharaf to M. Mustafabhai Gomes on 13mi raat of Ramdan al Moazzam.
1433-12-ramzan-kandivali (12).jpg 13 Ramadan-al-Moazzam, 1433 ( 31-07-2012 ) at Mumbai - India
Shahzada MalekulAshter Shujauddin Saheb gives ziyafat sharaf to M.Mariamben Yavatmalwala and her sons
2 Ramadan-al-Moazzam, 1433 ( 20-07-2012 ) at London
In Shabaan ul Karim 1433, Syedi Aliqadr Mufaddal Maula TUS gave sharaf of ziyafat to Mu. Huzefa Shk Jabir Rasheed and family in London UK.
2 Ramadan-al-Moazzam, 1433 ( 20-07-2012 ) at Kandivali
Shz Malik ul ashtar bs give ziyafat sharaf to M.Akbaralibhai adamalibhai jeeranwala and this son M.Khanali M akbaralibhai jeeranwala.On 1st Ramadanul moazzam in Kandivali (mumbai).

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Unread post by SBM » Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:45 am

Now the third generation is getting in to action of Ziyafats
Janab Shabbir Bs bin Shehzada Ammar Bs Jamaluddin Saheb DM Bestowed Zyafat Sharaf to M Mustafa Bhai Hasanji in Nasik - India 17 Ramadan-al-Moazzam, 1433
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Unread post by SBM » Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:54 am

Shz Malekulashtar Bs DM, gave ziyafat sharaf to Shk Zulfakar Mandsaurwala and his son M.Mufaddal,Abdulkadir and Hussain Mandsaurwala on 15mi raat of Ramdan al Moazzam Kandivali.
Huzurala TUS Bestowed Ziyafat Sharaf to Shk Mustafa Bhai Aantri in Khandala on 13th Shehrullah il Moazzam
On 11th Shehrullah il Moazzam (12mi Raat), Aqa Maula TUS graciously granted sharaf of ziyafat to Shk Jabirbhai Rasheed and family from Dubai in Khandala.
Syedi Mazoon Saheb TUS give Kadam Mubarak Sharaf At Mumineen Home in Abdul Rehman Street in Ramzan 1433
Syedi Mazoon Saheb TUS give Ziyafat Sharaf to Kausarbhai Motiwala Hatim Motiwala in Mumbai at His Residence At Abdul Rehman Street 14 Ramadan-al-Moazzam,

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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by ozmujaheed » Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:39 am

londonwala wrote:Prices for recent ziyafats in London started at 11 thousand pounds plus about two thousand extra for bhai sahebs salaams and jaman. Some people negotiated this price down to about half price. Titles cost extra. There were at least 5 zyafats daily.
This amount seems to be lower than what I thought it was , I was informed some years ago it was like $30,000

However they have repackaged it such that have many a day at £11,000 and that way make make more a day !

Now at that much amount coming in almost daily one can seat on the thakatat and shed crocodile tears and wave!

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Unread post by SBM » Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:59 am

EVEN THE FAADIL RAATS OF 19TH IS NOT IMMUNE FROM COLLECTING MONEY EVEN BY THIRD GENERATION . CAN ANYONE POINT OUT WHEN THIS TREND OF ZIYAFAATS IN THE MONTH OF RAMADAN SPECIALLY ON FAADIL RAATS STARTED?, WHAT IS NEXT ZIYAFFATS DURING THE FIRST 10 DAYS OF MOHARRUM

Huzurala TUS Bestowed Ziyafat Sharaf to M. Mansoor R. Giyori M. Hussain M. Antriwala in Khandala on 19th Shehrullah il Moazzam
Huzurala TUS Bestowed Ziyafat Sharaf to Showq Group of LLC from Dubai in Khandala on 20th raat of Shehrullah il Moazzam
Shahzada Malekulashter bs Shujauddin Saheb gives ziyafat sharaf to M.Aliakbarbhai Hakimuddinbhai Devaswala on 18mi raat of Ramdan al Moazzam Kandivali.
Janab Shabbir bs bin Shz Ammar Bs Jamauddin Saheb DM gave Ziyafat Sharaf to Shababul Eidiz Zahabi Nasik on 19mi Shehrullah il Moazzam
Shz Malekulashtar Bs DM, gave Qudom mubarak sharaf at Muslimbhai Poonawala Resident on 19mi raat of Ramdan al Moazzam Kandivali.
Shz Malekulashtar Bs DM, gave ziyafat sharaf to M.Safuddinbhai lokhandwala and his Son M.Abbasbhai Lokhandwala on 20mi raat of Ramdan al Moazzam Kandivali.
Syedi wa Maulaya Aliqadr Mufaddal bs Saifuddin Saheb TUS gave Ziyafat Sharaf to KikaBhai Mohsinali Khandalawala at Lonavala, on 9th Shehrullah il Moazzam , 1433.

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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sat Aug 11, 2012 4:06 pm

SBM wrote:EVEN THE FAADIL RAATS OF 19TH IS NOT IMMUNE FROM COLLECTING MONEY EVEN BY THIRD GENERATION . CAN ANYONE POINT OUT WHEN THIS TREND OF ZIYAFAATS IN THE MONTH OF RAMADAN SPECIALLY ON FAADIL RAATS STARTED?,
Bro SBM,

Not only the faadil raats but the entire month of ramzan is a period when their business is at PEAK ! It is followed by the month of Mohurrum which starts with the bidding process wherein the highest bidding jamat invites the Dai for vayez and the bidding starts at Rs.52 crores. Probably the next farman will be to pay an 'Earnest money Deposit' which again may be in a few crores to qualify a jamat for taking part in the auction !

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Unread post by SBM » Mon Aug 13, 2012 8:45 am

Hooton se chu lo tum, Meri Qadambbosi amar kardo
Ban Jao Abde mere, mera lifafa garam ker do
No Najwe kee SIMA ho, na hoo Sochne ka Bandhan
Jub ZIyafat kare Koye to dekhe iifafe kee Motapun
Ramdan mey Ziyafat ker, yeh Reet Amaar Kardo
Mataam Ka Suna Paan, Mere Moula ke Maan ko
Madhe suna ker tum, aa jao Ghulami me mere
Khaal ki juti Bana ker Tum, Yeh Ghulami Amaar Ker do
Reformists ney China Mujh Se, mujhe job hi laga Piyara
Who haarte rehey lekin Mey Ziyaffats ker key jita
Tum Ziyaffat ker key hur dum, meri Jeet Amaar Ker do
Hooton sey Chu Lum Meri Qadamboosi Ammar Kerdo
Ban Jao Abde Mere Mera Lifafa Garam Ker do

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Unread post by SBM » Mon Aug 13, 2012 11:17 am

AND THE GOLD MEDAL FOR ZIYAFAT THON GOES TO SYEDI MUFFADAL BS: SILVER TO MALEK UL CHUSTER: BRONZE TO BE DECIDED
Syedi wa Maulaya Aliqadr Mufaddal bs Saifuddin Saheb TUS gave Ziyafat Sharaf to Skh Ismail Skh Abbasbhai Rampurawala in Fatemi Masjid on 24th Ramadan 1433
Syedi wa Maulaya Aliqadr Mufaddal bs Saifuddin Saheb TUS gave Ziyafat Sharaf to Skh Abbas Bhai Hamza in Fatemi Masjid on 24th Ramadan 1433
Syedi wa Maulaya Aliqadr Mufaddal bs Saifuddin Saheb TUS gave Ziyafat Sharaf to Skh Haiderbhai Manasawala in Fatemi Masjid on 24th Ramadan 1433.
Syedi wa Maulaya Aliqadr Mufaddal bs Saifuddin Saheb TUS gave Ziyafat Sharaf to Skh Azizbhai Kachwala From Qutbi Mohalla Mumbai in Fatemi Masjid on 24th Ramadan 1433.
Syedi wa Maulaya Aliqadr Mufaddal bs Saifuddin Saheb TUS gave Ziyafat Sharaf to Mulla Juzar Skh Ismail Rampurawala in Fatemi Masjid on 24th Ramadan 1433.
Syedi wa Maulaya Aliqadr Mufaddal bs Saifuddin Saheb TUS gave Ziyafat Sharaf to Mohammedi Mohalla Amil Saheb Sh. Khuzaima Sh.Ahmedali Sakir at Fatemi Masjid on 24th Ramadan.
Syedi wa Maulaya Aliqadr Mufaddal bs Saifuddin Saheb TUS gave Ziyafat Sharaf to SHK. YUSUF BHAI GOLWALA AND FAMILY AT FATEMI MASJID ON 24th RAMAZAN 1433 H
Syedi wa Maulaya Aliqadr Mufaddal bs Saifuddin Saheb TUS gave Ziyafat Sharaf to TO MULLAH ESMAI LBHAI MULLAH TAHER BHAI KAPADIA AT FATEMI MASJID ON 24th RAMADAN 1433.
Aali Qadar Maula (tus) bestowed sharaf of MAFSUHIYAT to Mulla Zoherbhai Sk. Ahmedali Shakir of Bhiwandi during ziyafat on 24th Shehre Ramzaan ul Moazzam

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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by seeker110 » Mon Aug 13, 2012 1:58 pm

Charity is the stairway to Heaven not Ziafats.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:26 pm

This thread was started somewhere in the month of Rabiul Awwal and it is obvious that we must have skipped many ziafats/mafsusiyats/hadiyats although a majority are on record. Let us see the numbers in perspective (which are less but not more) and find out the amount of money that saifee mahal has generated.

WE TAKE A HALF YEARLY (6 MONTHS) ACCOUNT ONLY I.E. FROM RABIUL AWWAL TO SHABAN :-

The price tag of a dai's Ziafat is anywhere between Rs.1.52 crores to Rs.2.52 crores and Hadiyats/Mafsusiyats are sold for not less then Rs.52 lakhs.

Let us take a conservative figure of Rs.1.52 crores for Ziafat and Rs.52 lakhs for Hadiyats/Mafsusiyats and the figure comes as follows :-

260 ZIAFATS x Rs.1.52 crores = Rs.395 CRORES !!

95 HADIYATS/MAFSUSIYATS x RS.52 LAKHS = RS.49.5 CRORES !!

HENCE THE 6 MONTHLY EARNINGS ARE AROUND RS.445 CRORES WHICH MEANS :-

AN ANNUALISED INCOME OF RS.890 CRORES BY WAY OF THE DAI'S ZIAFATS AND HADIYATS ONLY !!


If the Dai is taking 520 ziafats and giving 190 Hadiyats/Mafusiyats annually (on a conservative basis) then lets also take a conservative figure of ONLY HALF for Mansoos which comes to 250 ziafats and 100 Hadiyats/Mafsusiyats for the Mansoos. Let us take a VERY CONSERVATIVE rate of Rs.52 lakhs for Mansoss Ziafats and Rs.21 lakhs for his Hadiyats Mafsusiyats.

Hence Mansoos figures come to -

250 ZIAFATS x RS.52 LAKHS = RS.130 CRORES.

100 HADIYATS X RS.21 LAKHS = RS.21 CRORES.

TOTAL RS.152 CRORES.

HENCE THE COMBINED INCOME OF THE DAI AND MANSOOS FOR ZIAFATS,MAFSUSIYATS AND HADIYATS ONLY COMES TO ...............

A WHOOOOOOPING RS.1,042 CRORES ON YEARLY BASIS.

AND RS.2.85 CRORES ON A DAILY BASIS !!

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:04 pm

There is an authentic insider report which says that Kothar's MONTHLY income from the Gulf Countries alone is around Rs.200 CRORES which comes to RS.2,400 CRORES on a yearly basis. Add this with the African continent, Europe, United Kingdom, USA, South Asian Countries and last but not the least India and the figure could be anyones guess.

Abdes will now start their usual rants and press for documentary evidence which they also know is next to impossible to get although in their heart of hearts they will agree to the guestimates but their loyalty which should be dubbed as slavery prevents them from acknowledging the facts. They fail to realise that they are feeding a monster which has an unending greed for money and the repurcussions will be highly destructive not only for for them but even for their future generations !

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Unread post by Humsafar » Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:46 am

What a racket! It should put the Mob and Mafia to shame.

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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by Isolated » Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:26 am

ghulam muhammed wrote:There is an authentic insider report which says that Kothar's MONTHLY income from the Gulf Countries alone is around Rs.200 CRORES which comes to RS.2,400 CRORES on a yearly basis. Add this with the African continent, Europe, United Kingdom, USA, South Asian Countries and last but not the least India and the figure could be anyones guess.

Abdes will now start their usual rants and press for documentary evidence which they also know is next to impossible to get although in their heart of hearts they will agree to the guestimates but their loyalty which should be dubbed as slavery prevents them from acknowledging the facts. They fail to realise that they are feeding a monster which has an unending greed for money and the repurcussions will be highly destructive not only for for them but even for their future generations !
you are wrong actual figures are much much bigger...

so?

what is your concern/problem?

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Unread post by anajmi » Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:58 am

The irony of the situation is completely lost on the abde idiots. Allah keeps saying in the Quran that in front of him on the day of judgment none of your wealth will be of any use. When it comes to the Dai who is supposed to be the representative of the Imam who is supposed to be the representative of Allah, you cannot get close to him without your wealth.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:49 pm

Isolated wrote: you are wrong actual figures are much much bigger...

so?

what is your concern/problem?
Your views can be summed up in a simple one liner....... "When rape is inevitable, lie down and enjoy it".

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Unread post by SBM » Sat Aug 18, 2012 3:20 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU8rggFAb8A
Aakhri Ziyaffat Ramadan ki loon tu mey chaloon
Mey Chala Jaoon Ga, dau qadamboosi kara loon tu chaloon
Aaj woh Raat key tu ney mujhe Bulaya Hey
Aapni Mushafiyat hee sab ko Nazar Aaya hey
Do Mithaas aur Do Kharras zara Khaloon tu Chaloon
Meyn Chala Jaon gaa two Qadamboosi kara loon tau chaloon
Aaj Mey Shezaada hoon, Kuch saal phle mey Kuch bhi na thaa
Meri Ziyaaftat Meri Qadamboosi sey Tuje koi Baer Na thaa
Mey Hoon Kothari Goon, Yaqin Abdes ku Dila Doon to Chaloon
Mey Chaala Jaon Gaa Du Qadamboosi Kara Loon tau Chaloon
Teri Khaal ki Juti mein ek Roz Bana Loon Gaa
Aur Hamesha Kee Tarah Tuje Rulawon Gaa
Phir sey dusri Ziyafaat Kaa assurance Kara Loon tau Chaloon
Aakhri Ziyaffat Ramdan ke loon tau chaloon
Mey Chaala Jaaon Gaa dau Qadamboosi Kara Lun tau Chaloon

think
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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by think » Sun Aug 19, 2012 12:20 am

bohot khoob likha hai. "ziafat kha loon, paisa loot loon, akhir jaye ga kahan or kub tak ye tamasha rahe ga

ghulam muhammed
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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sat Aug 25, 2012 8:00 pm

Amidst a snow storm began Ashara Mubaraka in Chicago, USA in 1424H. By the farmane aali of Huzurala, Syedna Mohammad Burhanuddin TUS, Syedi Mazoon Saheb graced the land of Chicago with his noorani presence and spell binding bayan and warmed the hearts of the mumineen residing in Chicago.

In the days following Ashara Mubaraka mumineen took barakat of Mazoon Mola's presence. Approximately 40 families did their araz, the bethak started at 7 p.m and lasted almost until midnight. Mumineen also took barakat in their homes in ziafats and qadams. In the 17 day stay after ashara there were 25 ziafats and many qadams.

http://www.tahiyaat.com/logo/news/archi ... ramain.htm

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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Mon Sep 03, 2012 7:43 pm

THE DAI'S ROUND OF MARATHON ZIAFATS STARTS AGAIN IN SHAWWAL :-

The Dai gave Hadiyat to Shk Zakiuddin Rangwala on 3rd Shawwal in Mumbai.

The Dai gave Hadiyat to Shk Mohamed Fidahusein Shethwala on 3rd Shawwal in Mumbai.

The Dai took Ziafat from Yusufali Hathaiwala, watan Sagwara residing at Kuwait on 3rd Shawwal in Mumbai.

The Dai took Ziafat from Shk Zainudin Abdulhusein Goodwill of Betul MP on 3rd Shawwal in Mumbai.

The Dai took Ziafat from M.Fakhrudin Valikarimwala of Dubai on 3rd Shawwal in Mumbai.

The Dai took Ziafat AND gave Mafsusiyat to M.Mansoor Saifudin Ahmednagarwala on 4th Shawwal in Mumbai.

The Dai took Ziafat from Hussainbhai Taherbhai Ezzi on 4th Shawwal in Mumbai.

The Dai took Ziafat from Shabbirbhai Hatimbhai Fakkad on 4th Shawwal in Mumbai.

The Dai took Ziafat from M.Mustansir of Secundrabad on 4th Shawaal in Mumbai.

The Dai took Ziafat from Cochinwala family on 4th Shawwal in Mumbai.

The Dai took Ziafat from Mandalaywala family on 4th Shawwal in Mumbai.

The Dai gave Hadiyat to Shk Alihussain Dargaiwala (Nawab) on 4th Shawwal in Mumbai.

The Dai took Ziafat from M.Khuzemabhai Yusufali Press (Rail) on 5th Shawwal in Mumbai.

The Dai took Ziafat from Hozefabhai Fakhrudin Mitha on 5th Shawwal in Mumbai.

The Dai took Ziafat from Shk Hussainbhai Badri (Bhopalwala) on 5th Shawwal in Mumbai.

The Dai took Ziafat from M.Taiyabali Bharuchwala of Kandivli on 6th Shawwal in Mumbai.

The Dai took Ziafat from Shk Mohamedbhai Yamani of Kothar on 6th Shawwal in Mumbai.

The Dai took Ziafat from Mohamedhussainbhai Aurangabadi on 6th Shawwal in Mumbai.

The Dai took Ziafat from M.Abbasbhai Javawalla on 6th Shawwal in Mumbai.

The Dai took Ziafat from Shabbirbhai Taherali Jawadwala & Hozefa of Dubai on 6th Shawwal in Mumbai.

The Dai took Ziafat from Abbasbhai Jawadwalla of Kandivli on 6th Shawwal in Mumbai.

The Dai took Ziafat from Shk Juzarbhai Asgarbhai Chahwala on 6th Shawwal in Mumbai.

The Dai took Ziafat from Shabbirbhai Taherali Mallik on 7th Shawwal in Mumbai.

The Dai took Ziafat from Fakhrudinbhai Enayat Fakhri (Daruwala) on 7th Shawwal in Mumbai.

The Dai took Ziafat from Kalim Bros of Kuwait on 7th Shawwal in Mumbai.

The Dai gave Mafsusiyat to M.Hakimudin Fakhrudin Kalim on 7th Shawwal in Mumbai.

The Dai gave Hadiyat to Gulamalibhai Dholkawala on 7th Shawwal in Mumbai.

The Dai took Ziafat from Shk Zoherbhai Taiyabali Nagpurwala on 7th Shawwal in Mumbai.

The Dai took Ziafat from M.Saifudin Hussainbhai Khasamwala on 7th Shawaal in Mumbai.

The Dai took Ziafat AND gave Mafsusiyat to Murtuzabhai Asger Khokhawala of Doha Qatar on 8th Shawwal in Mumbai.

The Dai Ziafat from MARHUM M.Akbarali Alibhai Raj Pratapurwala Sons Abbas,Taher Raj on 8th Shawwal in Mumbai.

The Dai took Ziafat from Dawoodbhai saab Nurudin (Kuwait Amil) on 8th Shawwal in Mumbai.

The Dai gave Hadiyat to Addl Commander Burhani Guards Murtuza Shabbir Morkas on 9th Shawwal in Mumbai.

The Dai gave Hadiyats AND Mafsusiyats to 11 Supt and Members Burhani Guards on 9th Shawwal in Mumbai.

The Dai gave Mafsusiyat to M.Fakhrudin Hasanali Pitolwala of Dahod on 10th Shawwal in Mumbai.

The Dai gave Mafsusiyat to M.Kutbudin Abdulhussain Chharchhodawala on 10th Shawwal in Mumbai.

The Dai took Ziafat from M.Kutbuddin Abdulhussain Chharchhodawala on 10th Shawwal in Mumbai.

The Dai took Ziafat from M.Murtuza Fakhrudin Pitolwala on 10th Shawwal in Mumbai.

The Dai took Ziafat from Shabbirbhai Fazlehussain kitabi on 10th Shawwal in Mumbai.

The Dai gave Hadiyat to Shk Mohamed Ebrahim Arsiwala of Bhiwandi on 10th Shawwal in Mumbai.

The Dai took Ziafat from M.Murtuza Sajjadhussain Saifee of Dubai on 11th Shawwal in Mumbai.

The Dai took Ziafat from Taherbhai Abdulhussain Kitabi on 11th Shawwal in Mumbai.

The Dai took Ziafat from Mustafa/Murtuza Saboowala on 11th Shawwal in Mumbai.

The Dai took Ziafat from MARHUM Shk Saifuddin Ezzi Farzando on 11th Shawwal in Mumbai.

The Dai took Ziafat AND gave Mafsusiyat to M.Hussainbhai Mohamedhussain Dali of Kuwait on 11th Shawwal in Mumbai.

The Dai took Ziafat from Asgerali Fazlehussain Giyori, watan Sagwara of Kuwait on 11th Shawwal in Mumbai.

The Dai gave Mafsusiyat to M.Imdadhussain M.Hakimudin Kagzi on 12th Shawwal in Mumbai.

The Dai took Ziafat from Saifudinbhai Obriwala on 12th Shawwal in Mumbai.

The Dai took Ziafat from Shk Mohamedbhai Chhavi on 12th Shawwal in Mumbai.

The Dai took Ziafat from Aliakberbhai Taherali Sagir, watan Sagwara of Kuwait on 12th Shawwal in Mumbai.

The Dai took Ziafat from Abbasbhai Inayathussain Fakhri (Daru) watan Sagwara of Kuwait on 12th Shawwal in Mumbai.

The Dai took Ziafat from Mohamedbhai Burhanudin Murga, watan Sagwara of Kuwait on 12th Shawwal in Mumbai.

The Dai took Ziafat from M.Imdadhussain Kagzi on 12th Shawwal in Mumbai.

The Dai took Ziafat from M.Hakimuddin on 12th Shawwal in Mumbai.

The Dai took Ziafat from Shk Fakhrudin Alimohamed Gabaji AND M.Kutbudin Alimohamed Gabaji on 12th Shawwal of Kuwait in Mumbai.

In the beginning of my post I used the word MARATHON which can be seen from the number of Ziafats/Mafsusiyats on a single day. The Numbers in a glimpse are as follows :-

3rd Shawwal........... 5 Ziafats.
4th Shawwal........... 7 Ziafats.
6th Shawwal............ 7 Ziafats.
7th Shawwal............ 7 Ziafats.
10th Shawwal.......... 6 Ziafats.
11th Shawwal.......... 6 Ziafats.
12th Shawwal.......... 9 Ziafats.

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Re: Ziyafats

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Unread post by Dbc1 » Wed Sep 05, 2012 8:35 pm

47 ziafats in just 7 days... That's crazy.. With average amount of 21 lakhs per ziafat and selling of titles separately .. The Kothar roughly made 10 crores .. That's insane..

I hears in one of the communal gatherings.. 52 crores were given to qardan hasana. What happens to such money.. Do they reach the needy ?